*SPOILER* - According to TV Watercooler... (Spoilers)

Zaneygray, 11/23/2020, 12:12PM(58 days ago) @Drangonfly

Didn't Thomas call Hope and ask her to bring Douglas over for dinner after Liam had left for Steffy's? And anyway, Hope doesn't need to get permission from Liam for every move she makes. She is Douglas's mother. She has every right to be there with him if he's having dinner with Thomas. She's not keeping it secret from Liam.

Is Thomas after Hope? Or is it mental illness? Because on the outside, and even when he is thinking clearly, Thomas seems to be moving on from his obsession with Hope. How could any one know that he's having an internal struggle, because of some mental issue?

Hope is giving him a chance because she wants him to be better, for Douglas.

Hope wasn't meant to stay. The dinner was supposed to be with Thomas and Douglas. No one is saying Hope needs permission. It is called communication. The fact that she didn't communicate it and didn't give Liam the heads up means it is secretive and disrespectful.

Thomas is not scheming and manipulating to get Hope back but there are red flags that he is struggling to move on. No one knows he is having hallucinations but there is enough evidence that he is struggling - e.g. the mannequin of Hope, lying about not knowing where the mannequin is, and praising Hope.

Hope is ignoring it because she prefers to live in a fantasy. She proved it when she complained about Liam's concerns and not everything is pleasant. Hope is just making the issue worse and what Hope is doing is not good for Douglas either.

I agree. Hope wasn't meant to stay and Thomas hadn't planned for her to do so. And Hope does prefer to live in a fantasy. She showed her real colors about wanting her fantasy life the other day when she went off on Liam and ran out of the office after exclaiming, "Why couldn't everything just stay pleasant? Everything has been fine and then you had to go over there and incite him!"

Hope is only and always about her perfect fantasy world.

Wanting to have a life that isn't chaotic is not fantasy. That's normal.

Hope didn't say anything about chaos. She grew visibly upset and reamed Liam out and ran out with that exclamation. Liam just told her that Thomas has a Hope Manniquin and that is Hope's response? That is not about normal, that is about wanting to have a perfect fantasy world.

No, she was exasperated with Liam because she had just had to deal with him overreacting to Finn and just when things started to calm down he started in about Thomas. It has nothing to do with fantasy.

Hope's response about the mannequin was the same as Steffy's. They believed Thomas's reason for having it because they both WANT him to get better. Is Steffy living in a fantasy too?

Steffy didn't say anything about things staying pleasand and questioning Liam as to why he had to go over and incite Thomas, and then run out crying. So her response is not the same.

I disagree that Hope's response was being being exasperated because she'd just had to deal with him overreacting to Finn. That had been several weeks prior. Hope's history of wanting everything to be "just right, ie: perfect fantasy world" was confirmed by her statements and actions that day, imo.

SC: Jacqui is his "B&B queen" and his "ride or die".

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