So the ultimatum was pointless (General Discussion)

by AmazingHope @, WONDERLAND, Monday, January 13, 2020, 8:43PM (15 days ago)

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!

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So the ultimatum was pointless

by Donnaandi, Monday, January 13, 2020, 8:51PM (15 days ago) @ AmazingHope

Why does she always need Hopes leftovers? No pride and no better than her brother. Yuck

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by Shimster @, Monday, January 13, 2020, 8:53PM (15 days ago) @ Donnaandi

Need Hope’s leftovers? She is there willingly waiting for any crumbs.

So the ultimatum was pointless

by ceelo, antigua, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 6:27AM (14 days ago) @ Shimster

Need Hope’s leftovers? She is there willingly waiting for any crumbs.

You better believe it..

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by MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 7:03AM (14 days ago) @ ceelo

Need Hope’s leftovers? She is there willingly waiting for any crumbs.


You better believe it..

Hope is an entitled princess, and she generates a lot of leftovers and useless waste. Steffy is simply being a good citizen by recycling. :lol

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So the ultimatum was pointless

by ceelo, antigua, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 8:20AM (14 days ago) @ MsBold

Need Hope’s leftovers? She is there willingly waiting for any crumbs.


You better believe it..


Hope is an entitled princess, and she generates a lot of leftovers and useless waste. Steffy is simply being a good citizen by recycling. :lol

Haha...:lol

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by hopeyougogirl, Monday, January 13, 2020, 8:58PM (15 days ago) @ Donnaandi

Why does she always need Hopes leftovers? No pride and no better than her brother. Yuck

Steffy claimed she doesn’t want to be like her mother..yet, she is exactly like her pathetic mother groveling and never moved on.

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by BabyKelly, Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 11:24AM (13 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

Why does she always need Hopes leftovers? No pride and no better than her brother. Yuck


Steffy claimed she doesn’t want to be like her mother..yet, she is exactly like her pathetic mother groveling and never moved on.

She has made more efforts these last 2 years than her mother, Brooke and Hope in their entire life. She gifted Liam to Hope, removed herself, supported their marriage and stayed away for 2 years. She kissed a free Liam, after HE came to her house and he kissed her back. I don't see her grovelling.

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by Bold_Team70, Australia, Monday, January 13, 2020, 8:56PM (15 days ago) @ AmazingHope

Steffy needs to tell him the truth.
Don't think the ultimatum was pointless. Even if Liam still loves Hope, and regrets the kiss. Hope will not give up Douglas and her job with Thomas for him. And Liam can't accept it.
Hope needs to know the truth and believe Liam about his death threats. So she can sue for sole custody. This way, Liam and Hope can raise Douglas and Beth without Thomas.
I did not like Brooke telling Hope to give up Douglas and fight for Liam. Terrible advice. :ouch

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So the ultimatum was pointless

by AmazingHope @, WONDERLAND, Monday, January 13, 2020, 9:14PM (15 days ago) @ Bold_Team70

Steffy needs to tell him the truth.
Don't think the ultimatum was pointless. Even if Liam still loves Hope, and regrets the kiss. Hope will not give up Douglas and her job with Thomas for him. And Liam can't accept it.
Hope needs to know the truth and believe Liam about his death threats. So she can sue for sole custody. This way, Liam and Hope can raise Douglas and Beth without Thomas.
I did not like Brooke telling Hope to give up Douglas and fight for Liam. Terrible advice. :ouch

It is truly terrible advice! Shame on Brooke.
That should be the real goal...Hope & Liam get sole custody.

The truth also needs to come out so Liam can take off those blinders regarding Steffy!!
Enough already! She hasn't changed. Bust her already and Liam can have a new set of rules for her too!

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by amerime @, Florida, Monday, January 13, 2020, 9:26PM (15 days ago) @ Bold_Team70

Steffy needs to tell him the truth.
Don't think the ultimatum was pointless. Even if Liam still loves Hope, and regrets the kiss. Hope will not give up Douglas and her job with Thomas for him. And Liam can't accept it.
Hope needs to know the truth and believe Liam about his death threats. So she can sue for sole custody. This way, Liam and Hope can raise Douglas and Beth without Thomas.
I did not like Brooke telling Hope to give up Douglas and fight for Liam. Terrible advice. :ouch

I like the idea of turning the tables on Thomas. Liam and Hope need to collaborate to bring him down and Steffy needs to be exposed for the fraudster she is. If they could successfully gain the upper hand and custody of Douglas it would be great. This would most likely lead to years of Thomas trying to regain custody and story. Bell is not going there though.:lol

So the ultimatum was pointless

by MegsMom, Monday, January 13, 2020, 8:57PM (15 days ago) @ AmazingHope

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!

It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral

So the ultimatum was pointless

by cranberryboy, Monday, January 13, 2020, 8:59PM (15 days ago) @ MegsMom

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral

She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.

So the ultimatum was pointless

by MegsMom, Monday, January 13, 2020, 9:05PM (15 days ago) @ cranberryboy

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.

It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral

So the ultimatum was pointless

by hopeyougogirl, Monday, January 13, 2020, 9:55PM (15 days ago) @ MegsMom

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral

It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk

So the ultimatum was pointless

by mglass, Monday, January 13, 2020, 9:57PM (15 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk

Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%

So the ultimatum was pointless

by hopeyougogirl, Monday, January 13, 2020, 10:03PM (15 days ago) @ mglass

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%

Other than the kiss (that Steffy initiated) that he didn’t pull away, he hasn’t send mixed messages. He has NOT initiated any romantic moves on Steffy in a very very long time. Steffy KNOWS he’s been all about Hope, Hope, Hope.

So the ultimatum was pointless

by AmazingHope @, WONDERLAND, Monday, January 13, 2020, 11:38PM (15 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%


Other than the kiss (that Steffy initiated) that he didn’t pull away, he hasn’t send mixed messages. He has NOT initiated any romantic moves on Steffy in a very very long time. Steffy KNOWS he’s been all about Hope, Hope, Hope.

True. He's not flirting..or touching her. She wasn't daydreaming about her after they had sex.
All Liam did was respond to the kiss she initiated..because he's Liam.

If she's missing all this..it's because she chooses to.

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by MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 6:23AM (14 days ago) @ AmazingHope

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%


Other than the kiss (that Steffy initiated) that he didn’t pull away, he hasn’t send mixed messages. He has NOT initiated any romantic moves on Steffy in a very very long time. Steffy KNOWS he’s been all about Hope, Hope, Hope.


True. He's not flirting..or touching her. She wasn't daydreaming about her after they had sex.
All Liam did was respond to the kiss she initiated..because he's Liam.

If she's missing all this..it's because she chooses to.

Liam has been loyal to Hope for quite a while now. But his response to that kiss (and his reaction afterwards) isn’t a minor issue.

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So the ultimatum was pointless

by mglass, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 3:10PM (14 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%


Other than the kiss (that Steffy initiated) that he didn’t pull away, he hasn’t send mixed messages. He has NOT initiated any romantic moves on Steffy in a very very long time. Steffy KNOWS he’s been all about Hope, Hope, Hope.

For a while yes
But he is not all in for hope
Alot of issues

So the ultimatum was pointless

by hopeyougogirl, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 3:31PM (14 days ago) @ mglass

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%


Other than the kiss (that Steffy initiated) that he didn’t pull away, he hasn’t send mixed messages. He has NOT initiated any romantic moves on Steffy in a very very long time. Steffy KNOWS he’s been all about Hope, Hope, Hope.


For a while yes
But he is not all in for hope
Alot of issues

Looks to me, he is. Steffy just doesn't want to face the reality that he is still in love with Hope. And what couple doesn't have issues? They all do! Bridge is still currently dealing with their issues and not giving up.

So the ultimatum was pointless

by mglass, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 6:56PM (14 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%


Other than the kiss (that Steffy initiated) that he didn’t pull away, he hasn’t send mixed messages. He has NOT initiated any romantic moves on Steffy in a very very long time. Steffy KNOWS he’s been all about Hope, Hope, Hope.


For a while yes
But he is not all in for hope
Alot of issues


Looks to me, he is. Steffy just doesn't want to face the reality that he is still in love with Hope. And what couple doesn't have issues? They all do! Bridge is still currently dealing with their issues and not giving up.

I think for now bridge and lope will be on breaks

So the ultimatum was pointless

by hopeyougogirl, Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 11:31AM (13 days ago) @ mglass

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%


Other than the kiss (that Steffy initiated) that he didn’t pull away, he hasn’t send mixed messages. He has NOT initiated any romantic moves on Steffy in a very very long time. Steffy KNOWS he’s been all about Hope, Hope, Hope.


For a while yes
But he is not all in for hope
Alot of issues


Looks to me, he is. Steffy just doesn't want to face the reality that he is still in love with Hope. And what couple doesn't have issues? They all do! Bridge is still currently dealing with their issues and not giving up.


I think for now bridge and lope will be on breaks

I'm not so certain of that, but we will see.

So the ultimatum was pointless

by Tiqui1999 @, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 3:29PM (14 days ago) @ mglass

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


Liam is saying that
But he sends very mixed messages
That kiss....he should have pulled away
But he didnt want to
He may want hope
But not 100%

People cheat but still 100% want the family and spouses they cheated on. Some do it for a variety of reasons, but when the rubber meets the road, they dump the other person for their family. Even in soap life. Look at Ridge. he's 100% wanting his wife, but that does not stop him from lapping in the luxury of Shauna worshipping him.

It's not good to use people like that, but sometimes, that's exactly what people do, knowing that they do not want the person they are getting the extra attention from.

So the ultimatum was pointless

by AmazingHope @, WONDERLAND, Monday, January 13, 2020, 11:35PM (15 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk

I cannot wait for the day that she rips that photo off the wall and just destroys that thing once & for all!!
It will be the day both fanbases stand up and cheer for her!!

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by MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 6:26AM (14 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk

What’s funny (and obvious) is that the dummy can’t pick a lane. Still. After all these years.
Hope is welcome to the idiot.

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So the ultimatum was pointless

by MegsMom, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 7:25AM (14 days ago) @ MsBold

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


What’s funny (and obvious) is that the dummy can’t pick a lane. Still. After all these years.
Hope is welcome to the idiot.

Hope has decided she wants off the Merry-Go-Round, at least for now. So I suspect the fool will be camping out at Steffy's for the foreseeable future. Naturally, it won't be permanent. It never is. :drunk

So the ultimatum was pointless

by Pookie Bear, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 8:11AM (14 days ago) @ MegsMom

Can anyone tell me WHY Liam can't get his own place??:neutral

So the ultimatum was pointless

by ShirleyB#1, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 8:16AM (14 days ago) @ Pookie Bear

Can anyone tell me WHY Liam can't get his own place??:neutral

I think he's trying to be just like Ridge with his women and his housing. and Thomas not only mooches a place for himself, he mooches for his son and his girlfriend..smh...

So the ultimatum was pointless

by hopeyougogirl, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 3:27PM (14 days ago) @ MsBold

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


What’s funny (and obvious) is that the dummy can’t pick a lane. Still. After all these years.
Hope is welcome to the idiot.

Funny, I saw Hope packing Liam's clothes to throw him out. Looks to me, Steffy is "welcome to the idiot". :lol

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by MsBold @, Below the Mason-Dixon line, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 7:25PM (14 days ago) @ hopeyougogirl

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


What’s funny (and obvious) is that the dummy can’t pick a lane. Still. After all these years.
Hope is welcome to the idiot.


Funny, I saw Hope packing Liam's clothes to throw him out. Looks to me, Steffy is "welcome to the idiot". :lol

I can’t account for Steffy’s poor taste! :lol

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So the ultimatum was pointless

by hopeyougogirl, Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 11:29AM (13 days ago) @ MsBold

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral


It’s so obvious that it’s not funny anymore..he slept with Steffy (drugged sex), yet he STILL wants Hope. He kissed Steffy, yet he STILL wants Hope. Steffy must be super dense..perhaps someone should run a giant billboard or a big neon sign..”Liam WANTS Hope, not Steffy” and show that to her. :drunk


What’s funny (and obvious) is that the dummy can’t pick a lane. Still. After all these years.
Hope is welcome to the idiot.


Funny, I saw Hope packing Liam's clothes to throw him out. Looks to me, Steffy is "welcome to the idiot". :lol


I can’t account for Steffy’s poor taste! :lol

She should have stayed with a then loyal Wyatt..or maybe Bill who was willing to give her the world. Years later, she isn't better off..she's an idiot. :lol

So the ultimatum was pointless

by Tiqui1999 @, Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 3:26PM (14 days ago) @ MegsMom

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!


It's hard to fathom why Steffy is doing this to herself. She's a beautiful, intelligent and successful young woman. She could have her pick of the litter in the LA dating pool. Why settle for a man she has to "win" by default? And that's exactly what she'd be getting if Liam turns to her after Hope kicks his backside out of the cabin. He proposed to Hope. He told Hope he loved her and wanted to marry her. Right in front of Steffy! Yet Steffy is willing to take the bonehead back? Why? How is there any joy, any integrity in snagging someone through lies, tricks and manipulation?:oops :neutral


She probably thinks no one will love Kelly like Liam.


It's not like Kelly will lose Liam. No more than Beth will because he's not together with Hope. Steffy doesn't need to put herself in such a position. In the past, perhaps she could fool herself about how she and Liam got together, but this time around, I don't know how it could have been more obvious which woman Liam was in love with. I really think Bell is doing Steffy a great disservice by writing her like this. :neutral

It's true, but that's what they act like. They act like the kids will NEVER see their father -- even if Liam is over there all the time. They act like the kids will grow up all crazy and maladjusted if Liam isn't in their home. And notice it's always the father. Ridge raised his kids while Taylor was dead, but the kids STILL blame him not being around -- not Taylor's deaths -- for their problems today. BUT RIDGE WAS AROUND.

Which is why I call BS on Liam not spending enough time with Kelly. How often do fathers spend with kids they don't live with? I've never been in this situation, so seriously. Do they come over there every day or something? What I am I missing?

So the ultimatum was pointless

by GracieGirl, Monday, January 13, 2020, 10:27PM (15 days ago) @ MegsMom

I am not a Steffy fan and I agree that on a paper she has too much going for her to accept this fate.

So the ultimatum was pointless

by Barbybo, Monday, January 13, 2020, 10:04PM (15 days ago) @ AmazingHope
edited by Barbybo, Monday, January 13, 2020, 10:07PM

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!

I don’t see Liam backing down on doug? I think Hope going to lawyer behind liams back was a real big secret....Thope will be fun cause Hope so stupid

So the ultimatum was pointless

by SonOfMan, Monday, January 13, 2020, 10:41PM (15 days ago) @ AmazingHope

According to Liam...he still wants Hope. So, that means the ultimatum was a bluff.

Now, we have Steffy keeping many secrets!
- she knows Thomas is crazy and won't tell Liam that he's right. She also won't tell Ridge that Thomas has been playing them all.

- she won't come clean to Liam about the setup of the kiss....because she can't go against her nature and not be shady.
Oh poor deluded Steffy. Will she ever learn...probably not. If sleeping with her a couple months ago didn't have Liam panting after her...this kiss isn't about to do it now. LOL!!

Steffy is definitely regressing.

I think she also needs memory lessons. Hope keeps blaming Steffy for all her problems when in fact she, Wyatt and Thomas are as much responsible. Steffy prefers to blame Thomas and Hope for everything, but she forgets the reason why she and Liam broke up in the first place: Bill!

BOTH Steffy and Liam need some new partners. But if she is really determined to win Liam back, keeping these secrets isnot going to help her!!!

As for Hope, as long as she defends Thomas and doesn't cut ties with him, her relationship with Liam will be doomed!!!

So the ultimatum was pointless

by CaptainHook, Monday, January 13, 2020, 11:10PM (15 days ago) @ AmazingHope

None of the secrets Steffy is keeping tops Hope lying about taking away custody of Douglas from his dad or leaving him for dead and lying to his whole family. And nothing's more pathetic than Hope throwing her pathetic self at Liam while he was still married to Steffy and getting pregnant by him while he was still married to Steffy, now she’s calling herself a rebound, while lying about Italy and Liam didn't correct her

So the ultimatum was pointless

by AmazingHope @, WONDERLAND, Monday, January 13, 2020, 11:48PM (15 days ago) @ CaptainHook

None of the secrets Steffy is keeping tops Hope lying about taking away custody of Douglas from his dad or leaving him for dead and lying to his whole family. And nothing's more pathetic than Hope throwing her pathetic self at Liam while he was still married to Steffy and getting pregnant by him while he was still married to Steffy, now she’s calling herself a rebound, while lying about Italy and Liam didn't correct her

Liam had already left Steffy before Hope ever came back. The marriage was annulled so there was no longer an issue there either.

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