What if Liam changes?

Drangonfly , 1/22/2024, 10:30AM(97 days ago) @Dreamgirl

What if Liam could go back the nerdy guy who was completely smitten with Hope, the guy who only loved her, would he be the better choice? This is what I struggle with when I think of a love interest for Hope. When you actually think about it, Liam hasn’t been the guy who’s heart only belonged to Hope for years, almost from the beginning. Sure he chose her over Steffy several times, but he also chose Steffy several times too. Thomas’s only appeal is that he only loves Hope, but comparing that to the twisted , sick things he’s done in the name of love , it feels hollow. So for me, when I compare these men and who I’d rather see her with the answer is … neither.

A guy on a soap is not a waffle only until two women compete for him and Wyatt is a great example. For years we compared him with Liam and called him the loyal one, but later when two women fought for him the waffle came out. Thomas was a waffle with other women in the past and now he is all about Hope, but who is competing with Hope for Thomas? Nobody.

Steffy wasn't competing with Liam this time. She turned him down from the first moment he kissed her in Rome. Then he repeatedly chased her and professed his love for her. Tried to kiss her without any encouragement from her. As I've said before, if Thomas had done the exact same things to Hope that Liam did to Steffy last year, we'd have never heard the end of it. But for some reason Liam still comes away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist, if even that. Liam does not just waffle if there are two women fighting for him. He needs another woman to turn to whenever he is hurt by Hope, even if that woman isn't available. He's been written that way. Can that writing change? Sure. But it would be nice if we had an explanation as to why he always behaves this way.

Ridge and Liam both did his kind of stuff over the years. Soap men are like that and soap women forgive them. I think what Liam did to a married Steffy is disgusting, but this is still in the soap standards. Keeping someone's baby from them and daydreaming about her whole family being dead is considered bad even for soap standard's. Like Steffy sleeping with her FIL was wrong, but I still view it as less horrible then Thomas's crimes.
I doubt that we will get an explanation on why Liam is like that... We never got an explanation why Ridge is like that too.

Exactly. I guess we are all suppose to forget that Hope ran off with Liam's brother when Liam was 5 minutes late to meet her in Paris. And that Steffy crawled into bed with Wyatt half naked to cuddle, when she and Liam had a fight. The women do it to, they turn to someone else when they think they are about to be dumped. But, Ridge does take the crown as the king of whiplashing between women. He doesn't even leave his wives, before he is proposing to someone else. He doesn't even allow a night to go by, before he is in bed with some other woman.

I always read that, that Hope married Wyatt because Liam was late. That's now how it happened. Hope and Liam had an agreement that if he wasn't at the Eiffel Tower at 3:00 that would mean that he didn't want to be with her. He wasn't late. He didn't show up at all. The viewers knew he tried, but Hope didn't. She believed he had made the decision not to be with her.

I don't know why this is always mentioned without also mentioning that Liam married Steffy in Aspen on the mountain when Hope didn't show up. What's the difference? Oh right, he was engaged to Steffy. An engagement which was done with a broken heart, on the rebound, with tears in his eyes. I don't really consider that a real engagement. Plus Liam didn't turn up because he decided to play knight in shining armour as always. He had a choice. Hope didn't turn up because she was stopped from turning up. She had no choice. Why is Liam not at fault when Hope married Wyatt, and also Liam's not at fault when he married Steffy? As always, Liam skates. Skin like a duck. Everything just slides off.

Excellent points.

Let's also not forget that Liam was going to run off with Steffy when he thought Hope didn't want to marry him in Puglia. And he was on the bed with her literally minutes after reading the note he thought Hope left him.

That is what makes Liam so much worse than all the other men who waffled. He would literally change his mind in seconds. To this day neither girl knows everything he said to the other one, minutes after he professed undying love to the first one. To the best of my knowledge no other soap character has done that with the lightning frequency that Liam has, and is still doing. Remember the hashtag Liam Cooper Must Die on Twitter? There was a reason for that. He was awful.

Last week I watched an old scene where Hope ended things with him and he was completely devastated. Then he went straight to Steffy's house and told her when one door closes, another one opens.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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