What if Liam changes?

matisse, 1/22/2024, 9:05AM(97 days ago) @Dreamgirl

What if Liam could go back the nerdy guy who was completely smitten with Hope, the guy who only loved her, would he be the better choice? This is what I struggle with when I think of a love interest for Hope. When you actually think about it, Liam hasn’t been the guy who’s heart only belonged to Hope for years, almost from the beginning. Sure he chose her over Steffy several times, but he also chose Steffy several times too. Thomas’s only appeal is that he only loves Hope, but comparing that to the twisted , sick things he’s done in the name of love , it feels hollow. So for me, when I compare these men and who I’d rather see her with the answer is … neither. :frown


A guy on a soap is not a waffle only until two women compete for him and Wyatt is a great example. For years we compared him with Liam and called him the loyal one, but later when two women fought for him the waffle came out. Thomas was a waffle with other women in the past and now he is all about Hope, but who is competing with Hope for Thomas? Nobody.


Steffy wasn't competing with Liam this time. She turned him down from the first moment he kissed her in Rome. Then he repeatedly chased her and professed his love for her. Tried to kiss her without any encouragement from her. As I've said before, if Thomas had done the exact same things to Hope that Liam did to Steffy last year, we'd have never heard the end of it. But for some reason Liam still comes away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist, if even that. Liam does not just waffle if there are two women fighting for him. He needs another woman to turn to whenever he is hurt by Hope, even if that woman isn't available. He's been written that way. Can that writing change? Sure. But it would be nice if we had an explanation as to why he always behaves this way.


Ridge and Liam both did his kind of stuff over the years. Soap men are like that and soap women forgive them. I think what Liam did to a married Steffy is disgusting, but this is still in the soap standards. Keeping someone's baby from them and daydreaming about her whole family being dead is considered bad even for soap standard's. Like Steffy sleeping with her FIL was wrong, but I still view it as less horrible then Thomas's crimes.
I doubt that we will get an explanation on why Liam is like that... We never got an explanation why Ridge is like that too.


Exactly. I guess we are all suppose to forget that Hope ran off with Liam's brother when Liam was 5 minutes late to meet her in Paris. And that Steffy crawled into bed with Wyatt half naked to cuddle, when she and Liam had a fight. The women do it to, they turn to someone else when they think they are about to be dumped. But, Ridge does take the crown as the king of whiplashing between women. He doesn't even leave his wives, before he is proposing to someone else. He doesn't even allow a night to go by, before he is in bed with some other woman.


I disagree. No one takes the cake like Liam does. Until these last few years when he's rebounded to other women in seconds, Ridge has over the years been pretty steadfast when he's been with one woman. He was faithful to Taylor for years, in spite of marrying her out of spite on the runway, and in spite of Brookes constant attempts to sway him. Liam however has been this way since 2011. Way more years than Ridge. I gave him a bit of credit when it seemed like he was devoted to Hope. But then he kissed Steffy in Rome and down the drain went that credit. This character has literally not changed at all. No growth. Which is sad.

He kissed Steffy in Rome because he just saw his lying cheating wife making out with the man that wanted their baby dead, in the middle of the most popular tourist spot in Europe. Sorry, I am not beating up on Liam unless we are beating up on the women too. I am pretty sure I could find an incident from Steffy and Hope both, to match every single thing Liam has done himself when it comes to cheating and betraying trust.

Do you actually see any growth in Hope? She seems to be the same petulant stubborn child she was in 2011. Steffy seems to have grown up a little, but she still is a mean bully, and I have no doubt, she will drive Finn to turn to someone else eventually. Liam, Steffy and Hope are basically all the same. Each of them are cheaters and each of them are users.

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