If Liam finds out in Italy that Hope has feelings... (Spoilers)

Drangonfly , 5/27/2023, 1:06PM(345 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Love AN, but no, no and no. Like I have said in another thread, I will always root for Liam and for Hope but I am done with Lope for good. Like, for good this time. Definitely. There is no coming back. It's not just because of Thomas, the ONS in 2020 is still too hard to swallow. Most former Lope fans I know feel the same way. There may still be a few ones but the whole fandom has been burnt to ashes, imo. What does Bell expect? He can't throw the characters under the bus in such degrading, humiliating proportions and still expect the average audience to like the pairing. The fact that Hope keeps bringing up Leffy's ONS over and over and over shows Bell still sees it as a major factor. She hasn't forgiven him at all.

This isn't Lope from the 2010s anymore. These days are long gone. The actress has changed, the chemistry isn't the same. They have grown apart. The stories have changed a lot too. There was a huge shift after they got Beth back. I still rooted for them back then (even if Hope marrying Thomas was hard to accept) but the narrative isn't the same since then. The old days when everyone was manipulating Lope are long gone. Liam was a married man who bedded an unavailable woman and stated he didn't regret it. Unforgivable. No manipulations (Steffy looked even worse than Liam for that but that's another topic) to excuse him. No one kept informations from him or manipulated. He sex-cheated on Hope in a way Ridge never cheated on Brooke in 36 years. I will never forgive Bell for doing this to his character. What's happening now is not different. In 36 years Brooke made a lot of mistakes but she never treated Ridge this way. As much as I'd like to blame Steffy and Thomas for this mess, they haven't done anything. No lies, no secrets, no agenda or manipulations from them, it's all Hope. She is emotionally cheating and lying about what's on her mind, and the only person to blame is herself, just like the only person to blame for the ONS was Liam. Star-crossed lovers are pulled apart by external manipulations, it hasn't been the case since 2019 for Lope. Bridge were torn apart by manipulations (Sheila, Quinn, Shauna, Bill, Thomas) so I still root for Bridge (and Deric), Lope are not. This is done. They are 100% responsible for the misery they put themselves in, and Bell needs to put them out of this misery. Hope had Thomas on her mind while she was sexing up Liam, eww. I will never be able to get that image out of my head, and Liam shouldn't either. It will take a lot more than a mental breakdown or an illness to make me change my mind. Time to stick a fork in this relationship and allow the 2 characters to move on. Annika and Scott are too good to play these cheating stories. Liam deserves a new fresh healthy relationship with a woman who doesn't have a child, a job and feelings for Thomas. And whatever happens to Hope, she also deserves something new. Let her be single for a while and enjoy her career and spend more time with her children. I will still see her as a good person but I can never take her love for Liam seriously again.

Nah..Lope will never be done for good..just like Bridge will never be done for good..these 2 are Bell's endgame couples. It's a soap and all married couples will have issues, otherwise there would be no drama. LOL. And I love the chemistry between AN and SC as Lope far better than the previous version. IMO.

And if Bridge can have DECADES of break up make up break up make up break up make up, yet still being rooted for. I don't see why not Lope?!?!

I don’t consider predetermined endgame couples to be a good thing at all. To me that’s what makes the show boring as H***. I’ve watched since day 1 so it saddens me to say this but it’s gotten so predictable that it’s just become a chore to plod through the storylines. It’s like the writers just sit there asking what different roads can we take this time to get to the same destination. I don’t want to go to the same destination everytime.

For me, I don't find it boring because the drama is in how a married couple deal with major issues then overcoming it in the end and..yes, separations sometimes is a good thing because in the end the couple learn or realizes their love is stronger and is what brings them back together.

I get what you are saying, but at the same time..if all the couples just break up then immediately hook up with someone else..that gets boring too because nobody learns how to navigate a true marriage/relationship because they just quit and move on. Also, it's hard for this viewer to invest a short-term couple knowing hard time hits they just hit the road and it's over.

Sinn for example..for folks who like them, I'm sure if hard time hits, their fans will want them to overcome issues since they have a child together..instead of just up and quit. Just my opinion, of course.

Totally agree. I remember when lots of viewers were clamoring for something other than triangles and wanted couples to stay together and have stories that involved them overcoming obstacles together.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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