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What I want IF Steam get back together (General)

Nissi.L, 5/3/2024, 7:59PM (14 days ago)
edited by unknown, 5/3/2024, 8:03PM

The whole context of Steam's last destruction will need to be acknowledged. By Liam and Steffy first, but also by characters who benefitted.
They didn't end for the same reasons as other couples and that's why they may think they have unfinished business.
These 5 elements were necessary. If ONE of these 5 hadn't happened, they would likely still be together. These 5 points allowed Hope and Finn to "win" by default :
A) Steffy sleeps with Bill.
B) Hope comes back the same week and (later in the storyline) wants him to leave his wife for her.
C) Bill and Justin conspire against them. 1st the lipstick/pillow scam. 2nd the blackmail ("You leave Liam or Taylor goes to prison"). 3rd Justin monitoring .
D) Hope gets pregnant from her rebound one night-stand (when Wyatt told Liam that Still were together).
E) Steffy ends things with Liam and puts her ring on Hope's finger.

Hope wouldn't stand a chance if....
A) If Steffy hadn't made the worst mistake of her life. Liam fought like hell to steal her from Wyatt. He was never going to dump her. Bill is the only mistake he couldn't immediately forgive.
B) If she had come back later or earlier. Her timing couldn't be more perfect. She came in at the lowest, most vulnerable moment of his life.
C) If Bill hadn't pulled every tricks in the book. Even Hope was lucid enough to ackowledge it.
D) If she hadn't been pregnant after he went back to Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy and contacted Carter. He wanted to get married ASAP. He only changed his mind after he learnt about Beth. Hope admitted it : "Bill's manipulations created this baby".
E) If Steffy had fought harder. Liam's first reaction after Steffy left him was clear. He begged her not to call off the engagement and give him another chance. Steffy turned him down flat.

A, A+B, A+B+C and A+B+C+D were still insufficient for Hope. E) was necessary
--> Steffy breaks her vows, Hope fights for him, Bill schemes for her, she gets pregnant... and he still wanted Steffy despite all this.
Finn wasn't in the picture at the time, but he indirectly benefitted from this unique set of circumstances.
Steffy would have been unavailable for him if of A, B, C, D or E never happened.

As much as I want to see it, I'm still not 100% convinced they will reunite. But the idea has never seemed more realistic.
For me the writing shifted in Rome. Thope and Steam kissed in the city of eternal love. Lope imploded and the final countdown started for Sinn.
I do not think the writers will reunite Steam now only to tear them apart shortly after. They will get the whole thing or nothing. But no crumbs.
Either it's all Sinn angst and Liam will encourage them to work things out and move on with Ivy. Unlikely but still possible.
Either Sinn definitely implodes this summer and next Steam get a slow buildup. I doubt they will rush a reunion. If they do reunite, I estimate it around November sweeps.
If Steffy leaves Finn and goes back to Liam, I bet Finn and Ivy will be used as angst for Thope.
If Sinn work it out, Ivy will get her chance with Liam.

My whole point is if Steam reconnect, some of these events need to be acknowledged by the show.
Lope imploded because she fell in love with Thomas and because he admitted he never stopped loving Steffy.
If Sinn implodes, it will be because of his connection with Sheila and because she never stopped loving Liam.
No manipulation, no one-night-stand with a 3rd person, no surprise pregnancy, no external interference for these 2 couples. Just their own feelings for other people.
The Steam implosion was written very differently. They were torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. This context shouldn't be swept under the rug if they try again.

What I want IF Steam get back together

Pearlyn, 5/3/2024, 8:24PM (14 days ago) @Nissi.L

It's looking like they are 100% going to reunite and I'm all for it if it keeps boring Lope off my screen, I've never seen a soap opera couple as mismatched as that one, they are like watching paint dry and I don't think I can take another 5 years of that but yes I agree with everything you said.

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rexitaliano, 5/4/2024, 1:02AM (14 days ago) @Nissi.L
edited by unknown, 5/4/2024, 1:11AM

I never want steam, ever but first would be Liam acknowledging that HE destroyed their marriage by breaking every promise he made to get Steffy back from Wyatt, by cheating on her in what he thought were his last moments alive with no less than the woman who used her, stole from her and tried to ruin her buisness, that he gets why Steffy had comfort/revenge/rebound sex with Bil because he would have done the same with Steffy had she allowed him to when he saw Thope in rome.The Hope did to him what he did to Steffy

He told Hope for months to keep Thomas out of their lives and she didn't care anymore than he did when Steffy told him over and over again how she felt about his relatiionship with Sally, and his response was that it was none of her buisness.Hope blindsided him the way he blindsided Stefy.Hope cheated on him the way he cheated on Steffy.Except what he did was worse because he was too busy cheating on Steffy to give her any thought in what he thought were his last moments alive.

Liam: It was a life-or-death moment, steffy.

Steffy: But you think that makes it okay?! It doesn't!

Steffy: Unbelievable! In what you thought were your last moments on earth, all you cared about was comforting sally! Well, what about me?! What about your wife?! Did you even spare a thought for me?!

Steffy: No, you put your family, you put your father, you put the company, and now you put me second to your cause, to her. To her! Sally spectra! My worst enemy!

Liam: Damn it, we thought we were going to die!

Steffy: And that makes it okay to be unfaithful?! How long have you been unhappy with me?

Steffy: You know, the man i married would be -- he'd be screaming for my name if he thought he was dying, not kissing another woman. It's like, my god.

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Celeste @, 5/4/2024, 1:16AM (14 days ago) @rexitaliano- 2 people liked this

What he will acknowledge is his itch for Steffy. Once satisfied the itch, once again he will realize first hand how witch she is and dump her again.

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Viola, 5/4/2024, 3:14AM (14 days ago) @Nissi.L- 2 people liked this

The whole context of Steam's last destruction will need to be acknowledged. By Liam and Steffy first, but also by characters who benefitted.
They didn't end for the same reasons as other couples and that's why they may think they have unfinished business.
These 5 elements were necessary. If ONE of these 5 hadn't happened, they would likely still be together. These 5 points allowed Hope and Finn to "win" by default :
A) Steffy sleeps with Bill.
B) Hope comes back the same week and (later in the storyline) wants him to leave his wife for her.
C) Bill and Justin conspire against them. 1st the lipstick/pillow scam. 2nd the blackmail ("You leave Liam or Taylor goes to prison"). 3rd Justin monitoring .
D) Hope gets pregnant from her rebound one night-stand (when Wyatt told Liam that Still were together).
E) Steffy ends things with Liam and puts her ring on Hope's finger.

Hope wouldn't stand a chance if....
A) If Steffy hadn't made the worst mistake of her life. Liam fought like hell to steal her from Wyatt. He was never going to dump her. Bill is the only mistake he couldn't immediately forgive.
B) If she had come back later or earlier. Her timing couldn't be more perfect. She came in at the lowest, most vulnerable moment of his life.
C) If Bill hadn't pulled every tricks in the book. Even Hope was lucid enough to ackowledge it.
D) If she hadn't been pregnant after he went back to Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy and contacted Carter. He wanted to get married ASAP. He only changed his mind after he learnt about Beth. Hope admitted it : "Bill's manipulations created this baby".
E) If Steffy had fought harder. Liam's first reaction after Steffy left him was clear. He begged her not to call off the engagement and give him another chance. Steffy turned him down flat.

A, A+B, A+B+C and A+B+C+D were still insufficient for Hope. E) was necessary
--> Steffy breaks her vows, Hope fights for him, Bill schemes for her, she gets pregnant... and he still wanted Steffy despite all this.
Finn wasn't in the picture at the time, but he indirectly benefitted from this unique set of circumstances.
Steffy would have been unavailable for him if of A, B, C, D or E never happened.

As much as I want to see it, I'm still not 100% convinced they will reunite. But the idea has never seemed more realistic.
For me the writing shifted in Rome. Thope and Steam kissed in the city of eternal love. Lope imploded and the final countdown started for Sinn.
I do not think the writers will reunite Steam now only to tear them apart shortly after. They will get the whole thing or nothing. But no crumbs.
Either it's all Sinn angst and Liam will encourage them to work things out and move on with Ivy. Unlikely but still possible.
Either Sinn definitely implodes this summer and next Steam get a slow buildup. I doubt they will rush a reunion. If they do reunite, I estimate it around November sweeps.
If Steffy leaves Finn and goes back to Liam, I bet Finn and Ivy will be used as angst for Thope.
If Sinn work it out, Ivy will get her chance with Liam.

My whole point is if Steam reconnect, some of these events need to be acknowledged by the show.
Lope imploded because she fell in love with Thomas and because he admitted he never stopped loving Steffy.
If Sinn implodes, it will be because of his connection with Sheila and because she never stopped loving Liam.
No manipulation, no one-night-stand with a 3rd person, no surprise pregnancy, no external interference for these 2 couples. Just their own feelings for other people.
The Steam implosion was written very differently. They were torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. This context shouldn't be swept under the rug if they try again.

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What I want IF Steam get back together

Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/4/2024, 4:02AM (14 days ago) @Viola- 3 people liked this[O]

The whole context of Steam's last destruction will need to be acknowledged. By Liam and Steffy first, but also by characters who benefitted.
They didn't end for the same reasons as other couples and that's why they may think they have unfinished business.
These 5 elements were necessary. If ONE of these 5 hadn't happened, they would likely still be together. These 5 points allowed Hope and Finn to "win" by default :
A) Steffy sleeps with Bill.
B) Hope comes back the same week and (later in the storyline) wants him to leave his wife for her.
C) Bill and Justin conspire against them. 1st the lipstick/pillow scam. 2nd the blackmail ("You leave Liam or Taylor goes to prison"). 3rd Justin monitoring .
D) Hope gets pregnant from her rebound one night-stand (when Wyatt told Liam that Still were together).
E) Steffy ends things with Liam and puts her ring on Hope's finger.

Hope wouldn't stand a chance if....
A) If Steffy hadn't made the worst mistake of her life. Liam fought like hell to steal her from Wyatt. He was never going to dump her. Bill is the only mistake he couldn't immediately forgive.
B) If she had come back later or earlier. Her timing couldn't be more perfect. She came in at the lowest, most vulnerable moment of his life.
C) If Bill hadn't pulled every tricks in the book. Even Hope was lucid enough to ackowledge it.
D) If she hadn't been pregnant after he went back to Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy and contacted Carter. He wanted to get married ASAP. He only changed his mind after he learnt about Beth. Hope admitted it : "Bill's manipulations created this baby".
E) If Steffy had fought harder. Liam's first reaction after Steffy left him was clear. He begged her not to call off the engagement and give him another chance. Steffy turned him down flat.

A, A+B, A+B+C and A+B+C+D were still insufficient for Hope. E) was necessary
--> Steffy breaks her vows, Hope fights for him, Bill schemes for her, she gets pregnant... and he still wanted Steffy despite all this.
Finn wasn't in the picture at the time, but he indirectly benefitted from this unique set of circumstances.
Steffy would have been unavailable for him if of A, B, C, D or E never happened.

As much as I want to see it, I'm still not 100% convinced they will reunite. But the idea has never seemed more realistic.
For me the writing shifted in Rome. Thope and Steam kissed in the city of eternal love. Lope imploded and the final countdown started for Sinn.
I do not think the writers will reunite Steam now only to tear them apart shortly after. They will get the whole thing or nothing. But no crumbs.
Either it's all Sinn angst and Liam will encourage them to work things out and move on with Ivy. Unlikely but still possible.
Either Sinn definitely implodes this summer and next Steam get a slow buildup. I doubt they will rush a reunion. If they do reunite, I estimate it around November sweeps.
If Steffy leaves Finn and goes back to Liam, I bet Finn and Ivy will be used as angst for Thope.
If Sinn work it out, Ivy will get her chance with Liam.

My whole point is if Steam reconnect, some of these events need to be acknowledged by the show.
Lope imploded because she fell in love with Thomas and because he admitted he never stopped loving Steffy.
If Sinn implodes, it will be because of his connection with Sheila and because she never stopped loving Liam.
No manipulation, no one-night-stand with a 3rd person, no surprise pregnancy, no external interference for these 2 couples. Just their own feelings for other people.
The Steam implosion was written very differently. They were torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. This context shouldn't be swept under the rug if they try again.


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The perfect waffler, yes....already these many years ago. Looking like butter couldn´t melt in his mouth while having two girls in his divided heart.
Sorry, I know you like him but I never forgave Liam after he put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger five seconds after he found it on the mantle.

What I want IF Steam get back together

Viola, 5/4/2024, 4:04AM (14 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this

The whole context of Steam's last destruction will need to be acknowledged. By Liam and Steffy first, but also by characters who benefitted.
They didn't end for the same reasons as other couples and that's why they may think they have unfinished business.
These 5 elements were necessary. If ONE of these 5 hadn't happened, they would likely still be together. These 5 points allowed Hope and Finn to "win" by default :
A) Steffy sleeps with Bill.
B) Hope comes back the same week and (later in the storyline) wants him to leave his wife for her.
C) Bill and Justin conspire against them. 1st the lipstick/pillow scam. 2nd the blackmail ("You leave Liam or Taylor goes to prison"). 3rd Justin monitoring .
D) Hope gets pregnant from her rebound one night-stand (when Wyatt told Liam that Still were together).
E) Steffy ends things with Liam and puts her ring on Hope's finger.

Hope wouldn't stand a chance if....
A) If Steffy hadn't made the worst mistake of her life. Liam fought like hell to steal her from Wyatt. He was never going to dump her. Bill is the only mistake he couldn't immediately forgive.
B) If she had come back later or earlier. Her timing couldn't be more perfect. She came in at the lowest, most vulnerable moment of his life.
C) If Bill hadn't pulled every tricks in the book. Even Hope was lucid enough to ackowledge it.
D) If she hadn't been pregnant after he went back to Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy and contacted Carter. He wanted to get married ASAP. He only changed his mind after he learnt about Beth. Hope admitted it : "Bill's manipulations created this baby".
E) If Steffy had fought harder. Liam's first reaction after Steffy left him was clear. He begged her not to call off the engagement and give him another chance. Steffy turned him down flat.

A, A+B, A+B+C and A+B+C+D were still insufficient for Hope. E) was necessary
--> Steffy breaks her vows, Hope fights for him, Bill schemes for her, she gets pregnant... and he still wanted Steffy despite all this.
Finn wasn't in the picture at the time, but he indirectly benefitted from this unique set of circumstances.
Steffy would have been unavailable for him if of A, B, C, D or E never happened.

As much as I want to see it, I'm still not 100% convinced they will reunite. But the idea has never seemed more realistic.
For me the writing shifted in Rome. Thope and Steam kissed in the city of eternal love. Lope imploded and the final countdown started for Sinn.
I do not think the writers will reunite Steam now only to tear them apart shortly after. They will get the whole thing or nothing. But no crumbs.
Either it's all Sinn angst and Liam will encourage them to work things out and move on with Ivy. Unlikely but still possible.
Either Sinn definitely implodes this summer and next Steam get a slow buildup. I doubt they will rush a reunion. If they do reunite, I estimate it around November sweeps.
If Steffy leaves Finn and goes back to Liam, I bet Finn and Ivy will be used as angst for Thope.
If Sinn work it out, Ivy will get her chance with Liam.

My whole point is if Steam reconnect, some of these events need to be acknowledged by the show.
Lope imploded because she fell in love with Thomas and because he admitted he never stopped loving Steffy.
If Sinn implodes, it will be because of his connection with Sheila and because she never stopped loving Liam.
No manipulation, no one-night-stand with a 3rd person, no surprise pregnancy, no external interference for these 2 couples. Just their own feelings for other people.
The Steam implosion was written very differently. They were torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. This context shouldn't be swept under the rug if they try again.


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The perfect waffler, yes....already these many years ago. Looking like butter couldn´t melt in his mouth while having two girls in his divided heart.
Sorry, I know you like him but I never forgave Liam after he put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger five seconds after he found it on the mantle.

I don't. I just dislike psycho Thomas even more.

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rexitaliano, 5/4/2024, 4:26AM (14 days ago) @Viola
edited by unknown, 5/4/2024, 4:32AM

Yes Liam talking both sides of his mouith, liam taking Steffy for granted, Liam being all about his ego.That's all it proves.

Liam stating that he doesn't want to be free to choose, Liam stated that he's not interested in Hope or Ivy, Liam going crazy over SINN while being "happily" married to Hope, Liam still needing time to decide if he wants a life with Hope even even when Hope got knocked up,even after Steffy made clear that she's not an option,,Hope having to beg liam to let Steffy go, Hope realizing that she was married to a man in love with another woman...

Like I said, it only proves that Liam loved neither, and was willing to say whatever it ttakes to fool the woman he's after

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pspcindy @, 5/4/2024, 7:24AM (14 days ago) @Lizzy54- 3 people liked this[O]

The perfect waffler, yes....already these many years ago. Looking like butter couldn´t melt in his mouth while having two girls in his divided heart.
Sorry, I know you like him but I never forgave Liam after he put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger five seconds after he found it on the mantle.

And you know I cannot stand Liam. My feelings for him switched forever when he took that ring and put it on that snake's tail five minutes after Hope took it off. He just proved in the scenes with Ivy why he is so loathsome. He let that viper spew her venom all over Ivy with not a word of rebuke.

As to the subject of this thread, I don't care if Steam, Leffy or whatever you call these two get back together. They are a bore and are two selfish users. Just stay clear of Hope and someone please remind Steffy she is not the Ruler of the World. I'm tired just thinking of those two.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/4/2024, 7:39AM (14 days ago) @pspcindy

I agree. I still remember that the speed at which Liam put the ring on Steffy´s finger literally took my breath away...any other man would have waited until he could have a talk with his bride. Liam tried to call Hope, she didn´t answer, and this was immediately a reason to change fiancees...this was the exact moment I never will forget and it ruined Lope for me forever.
Whatever followed, Aspen (wanting to meet Hope, when she didn´t show up gondolawise, marrying Steffy instead), tearing the annulment papers, Puglia (rolling on the bed with Steffy minutes before he married Hope)...only confirmed my opinion.

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fan87, 5/4/2024, 8:44AM (14 days ago) @Nissi.L

The whole context of Steam's last destruction will need to be acknowledged. By Liam and Steffy first, but also by characters who benefitted.
They didn't end for the same reasons as other couples and that's why they may think they have unfinished business.
These 5 elements were necessary. If ONE of these 5 hadn't happened, they would likely still be together. These 5 points allowed Hope and Finn to "win" by default :
A) Steffy sleeps with Bill.
B) Hope comes back the same week and (later in the storyline) wants him to leave his wife for her.
C) Bill and Justin conspire against them. 1st the lipstick/pillow scam. 2nd the blackmail ("You leave Liam or Taylor goes to prison"). 3rd Justin monitoring .
D) Hope gets pregnant from her rebound one night-stand (when Wyatt told Liam that Still were together).
E) Steffy ends things with Liam and puts her ring on Hope's finger.

Hope wouldn't stand a chance if....
A) If Steffy hadn't made the worst mistake of her life. Liam fought like hell to steal her from Wyatt. He was never going to dump her. Bill is the only mistake he couldn't immediately forgive.
B) If she had come back later or earlier. Her timing couldn't be more perfect. She came in at the lowest, most vulnerable moment of his life.
C) If Bill hadn't pulled every tricks in the book. Even Hope was lucid enough to ackowledge it.
D) If she hadn't been pregnant after he went back to Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy and contacted Carter. He wanted to get married ASAP. He only changed his mind after he learnt about Beth. Hope admitted it : "Bill's manipulations created this baby".
E) If Steffy had fought harder. Liam's first reaction after Steffy left him was clear. He begged her not to call off the engagement and give him another chance. Steffy turned him down flat.

A, A+B, A+B+C and A+B+C+D were still insufficient for Hope. E) was necessary
--> Steffy breaks her vows, Hope fights for him, Bill schemes for her, she gets pregnant... and he still wanted Steffy despite all this.
Finn wasn't in the picture at the time, but he indirectly benefitted from this unique set of circumstances.
Steffy would have been unavailable for him if of A, B, C, D or E never happened.

As much as I want to see it, I'm still not 100% convinced they will reunite. But the idea has never seemed more realistic.
For me the writing shifted in Rome. Thope and Steam kissed in the city of eternal love. Lope imploded and the final countdown started for Sinn.
I do not think the writers will reunite Steam now only to tear them apart shortly after. They will get the whole thing or nothing. But no crumbs.
Either it's all Sinn angst and Liam will encourage them to work things out and move on with Ivy. Unlikely but still possible.
Either Sinn definitely implodes this summer and next Steam get a slow buildup. I doubt they will rush a reunion. If they do reunite, I estimate it around November sweeps.
If Steffy leaves Finn and goes back to Liam, I bet Finn and Ivy will be used as angst for Thope.
If Sinn work it out, Ivy will get her chance with Liam.

My whole point is if Steam reconnect, some of these events need to be acknowledged by the show.
Lope imploded because she fell in love with Thomas and because he admitted he never stopped loving Steffy.
If Sinn implodes, it will be because of his connection with Sheila and because she never stopped loving Liam.
No manipulation, no one-night-stand with a 3rd person, no surprise pregnancy, no external interference for these 2 couples. Just their own feelings for other people.
The Steam implosion was written very differently. They were torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. This context shouldn't be swept under the rug if they try again.

Honestly, many of the same circumstances that Leffy faced in regards to outside manipulation were exactly what Lope faced for years prior. For many Lope fans Hope taking him away from Steffy felt like karma, but I always felt like Hope was for a time, a rebound. He always loved Hope too, but it was more of a first love thing, that Liam went back to because Hope felt more safe. The way she fell for Thomas and Liam so quickly turned to Steffy left me never wanting a Lope reunion. I cannot stand Steffy, I think she is a vile bully, but I do think Liam loves her and finds her exciting. Steffy loves men she can control and with Finn wanting a relationship with Sheila after Steffy has forbidden it, I think Sinn is finished and it was done for Leffy 2.0.

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Barbybo, 5/4/2024, 10:15AM (14 days ago) @Nissi.L

I can’t stand Liam I hope there’s no steffy reunite

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Dreamgirl, 5/4/2024, 12:18PM (13 days ago) @Nissi.L- 3 people liked this[O]

The whole context of Steam's last destruction will need to be acknowledged. By Liam and Steffy first, but also by characters who benefitted.
They didn't end for the same reasons as other couples and that's why they may think they have unfinished business.
These 5 elements were necessary. If ONE of these 5 hadn't happened, they would likely still be together. These 5 points allowed Hope and Finn to "win" by default :
A) Steffy sleeps with Bill.
B) Hope comes back the same week and (later in the storyline) wants him to leave his wife for her.
C) Bill and Justin conspire against them. 1st the lipstick/pillow scam. 2nd the blackmail ("You leave Liam or Taylor goes to prison"). 3rd Justin monitoring .
D) Hope gets pregnant from her rebound one night-stand (when Wyatt told Liam that Still were together).
E) Steffy ends things with Liam and puts her ring on Hope's finger.

Hope wouldn't stand a chance if....
A) If Steffy hadn't made the worst mistake of her life. Liam fought like hell to steal her from Wyatt. He was never going to dump her. Bill is the only mistake he couldn't immediately forgive.
B) If she had come back later or earlier. Her timing couldn't be more perfect. She came in at the lowest, most vulnerable moment of his life.
C) If Bill hadn't pulled every tricks in the book. Even Hope was lucid enough to ackowledge it.
D) If she hadn't been pregnant after he went back to Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy and contacted Carter. He wanted to get married ASAP. He only changed his mind after he learnt about Beth. Hope admitted it : "Bill's manipulations created this baby".
E) If Steffy had fought harder. Liam's first reaction after Steffy left him was clear. He begged her not to call off the engagement and give him another chance. Steffy turned him down flat.

A, A+B, A+B+C and A+B+C+D were still insufficient for Hope. E) was necessary
--> Steffy breaks her vows, Hope fights for him, Bill schemes for her, she gets pregnant... and he still wanted Steffy despite all this.
Finn wasn't in the picture at the time, but he indirectly benefitted from this unique set of circumstances.
Steffy would have been unavailable for him if of A, B, C, D or E never happened.

As much as I want to see it, I'm still not 100% convinced they will reunite. But the idea has never seemed more realistic.
For me the writing shifted in Rome. Thope and Steam kissed in the city of eternal love. Lope imploded and the final countdown started for Sinn.
I do not think the writers will reunite Steam now only to tear them apart shortly after. They will get the whole thing or nothing. But no crumbs.
Either it's all Sinn angst and Liam will encourage them to work things out and move on with Ivy. Unlikely but still possible.
Either Sinn definitely implodes this summer and next Steam get a slow buildup. I doubt they will rush a reunion. If they do reunite, I estimate it around November sweeps.
If Steffy leaves Finn and goes back to Liam, I bet Finn and Ivy will be used as angst for Thope.
If Sinn work it out, Ivy will get her chance with Liam.

My whole point is if Steam reconnect, some of these events need to be acknowledged by the show.
Lope imploded because she fell in love with Thomas and because he admitted he never stopped loving Steffy.
If Sinn implodes, it will be because of his connection with Sheila and because she never stopped loving Liam.
No manipulation, no one-night-stand with a 3rd person, no surprise pregnancy, no external interference for these 2 couples. Just their own feelings for other people.
The Steam implosion was written very differently. They were torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. This context shouldn't be swept under the rug if they try again.

Steffy sleeping with her FIL, getting pregnant, having to get a paternity test and then lying to her husband about the paternity test was not an "unfortunate circumstance" :lol Unfortunate circumstances are those that cannot be avoided. When people make certain choices and then have to face the consequences of those choices, those are not "unfortunate circumstances". And since then Liam has had many opportunities to reunite with Steffy. He could have chosen to take any of them if they were separated by an "unfortunate circumstance".

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GracieGirl, 5/4/2024, 3:39PM (13 days ago) @Nissi.L- one person liked this

The whole context of Steam's last destruction will need to be acknowledged. By Liam and Steffy first, but also by characters who benefitted.
They didn't end for the same reasons as other couples and that's why they may think they have unfinished business.
These 5 elements were necessary. If ONE of these 5 hadn't happened, they would likely still be together. These 5 points allowed Hope and Finn to "win" by default :
A) Steffy sleeps with Bill.
B) Hope comes back the same week and (later in the storyline) wants him to leave his wife for her.
C) Bill and Justin conspire against them. 1st the lipstick/pillow scam. 2nd the blackmail ("You leave Liam or Taylor goes to prison"). 3rd Justin monitoring .
D) Hope gets pregnant from her rebound one night-stand (when Wyatt told Liam that Still were together).
E) Steffy ends things with Liam and puts her ring on Hope's finger.

Hope wouldn't stand a chance if....
A) If Steffy hadn't made the worst mistake of her life. Liam fought like hell to steal her from Wyatt. He was never going to dump her. Bill is the only mistake he couldn't immediately forgive.
B) If she had come back later or earlier. Her timing couldn't be more perfect. She came in at the lowest, most vulnerable moment of his life.
C) If Bill hadn't pulled every tricks in the book. Even Hope was lucid enough to ackowledge it.
D) If she hadn't been pregnant after he went back to Steffy. Liam proposed to Steffy and contacted Carter. He wanted to get married ASAP. He only changed his mind after he learnt about Beth. Hope admitted it : "Bill's manipulations created this baby".
E) If Steffy had fought harder. Liam's first reaction after Steffy left him was clear. He begged her not to call off the engagement and give him another chance. Steffy turned him down flat.

A, A+B, A+B+C and A+B+C+D were still insufficient for Hope. E) was necessary
--> Steffy breaks her vows, Hope fights for him, Bill schemes for her, she gets pregnant... and he still wanted Steffy despite all this.
Finn wasn't in the picture at the time, but he indirectly benefitted from this unique set of circumstances.
Steffy would have been unavailable for him if of A, B, C, D or E never happened.

As much as I want to see it, I'm still not 100% convinced they will reunite. But the idea has never seemed more realistic.
For me the writing shifted in Rome. Thope and Steam kissed in the city of eternal love. Lope imploded and the final countdown started for Sinn.
I do not think the writers will reunite Steam now only to tear them apart shortly after. They will get the whole thing or nothing. But no crumbs.
Either it's all Sinn angst and Liam will encourage them to work things out and move on with Ivy. Unlikely but still possible.
Either Sinn definitely implodes this summer and next Steam get a slow buildup. I doubt they will rush a reunion. If they do reunite, I estimate it around November sweeps.
If Steffy leaves Finn and goes back to Liam, I bet Finn and Ivy will be used as angst for Thope.
If Sinn work it out, Ivy will get her chance with Liam.

My whole point is if Steam reconnect, some of these events need to be acknowledged by the show.
Lope imploded because she fell in love with Thomas and because he admitted he never stopped loving Steffy.
If Sinn implodes, it will be because of his connection with Sheila and because she never stopped loving Liam.
No manipulation, no one-night-stand with a 3rd person, no surprise pregnancy, no external interference for these 2 couples. Just their own feelings for other people.
The Steam implosion was written very differently. They were torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. This context shouldn't be swept under the rug if they try again.

We agree on one thing, the show needs to acknowledge choices people made and why. They rarely do. I will add one to your list. Steffy allowed herself to sleep with Bill for the same reason Hope threw herself at Thomas. They wanted to be with some who was focused on them. Steffy woke up from her mistakes faster than Hope. Where we disagree perhaps is the interpretation of those situations you outlined. When Hope returned, Liam was having a real breakdown about Still. We don’t know if Liam tried to reconcile with Steffy for the baby or for Steffy. I have no idea who Liam loves more and I’m tired of the merry go round. The show needs a very fresh start. The triangle from hell had its moments but it’s over stayed its welcome. Not being able to let go has damaged the show in my opinion.

What I want IF Steam get back together

Celeste @, 5/5/2024, 2:21AM (13 days ago) @Nissi.L- one person liked this

You are missing all the previous part of the story. Leffy couldn't stand a chance without all the manipulations to break Lope and Steffy herself manipulating and lying. Hope never had to lie or ask someone to manipulate situations to have Liam

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