What happened to the days when exes were exes (General)

GracieGirl, 4/23/2024, 10:04AM (10 days ago)

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.

What happened to the days when exes were exes

GLFan, 4/23/2024, 10:18AM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.

I doubt Quinn would agree that the Beric relationship was healthy. Anyway, there are no secret lovers being kept nearby in the 30 something age group. Some exes do remain close irl; it’s a choice. Demi Moore and Bruce Willis are one example.

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GracieGirl, 4/23/2024, 10:20AM (10 days ago) @GLFan

In real life, I see healthy exes all the time. In this show, not so much.

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GLFan, 4/23/2024, 10:22AM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

In real life, I see healthy exes all the time. In this show, not so much.

Unfortunately with such a small cast that’s just the way it has to be I guess.

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GracieGirl, 4/23/2024, 10:30AM (10 days ago) @GLFan

In real life, I see healthy exes all the time. In this show, not so much.


Unfortunately with such a small cast that’s just the way it has to be I guess.

This is not directed at you, but I wonder if a successful soap can have a small cast. I think the merrygoround relationships make a soap very boring. Same problems with same people over and over and over again. No new stories. Same stories played out the same way. Drunken sex. Relatives swapping lovers. I’m tired.

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GLFan, 4/23/2024, 11:27AM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

In real life, I see healthy exes all the time. In this show, not so much.


Unfortunately with such a small cast that’s just the way it has to be I guess.


This is not directed at you, but I wonder if a successful soap can have a small cast. I think the merrygoround relationships make a soap very boring. Same problems with same people over and over and over again. No new stories. Same stories played out the same way. Drunken sex. Relatives swapping lovers. I’m tired.

Couldn’t agree more. They definitely need new characters, although look at Runa. They would have been better off not done imo.

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Zaneygray, 4/23/2024, 10:28AM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.

I don't see any indication that doing family stuff with the kids is meant to give the false illusion that the marriage is intact. Far from it. It is so that the children will know that even though the marriage is over, the family is still a family. Kelly, and Beth too, I'm sure are very, very aware that their parents are no longer married. Rather than having two parents fighting with each other, which then hurts the child, they are taking the healthy route of showing them that although mom and dad are no longer married, they can still be friends and family. Children of divorce go through so much emotional pain. To see their parents on friendly terms with each other and together, would be very healing in the midst of the reality of the divorce.

And what secret lovers are being kept nearby? There are no "secret lovers" that I've seen.

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GracieGirl, 4/23/2024, 10:40AM (10 days ago) @Zaneygray- one person liked this

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.


I don't see any indication that doing family stuff with the kids is meant to give the false illusion that the marriage is intact. Far from it. It is so that the children will know that even though the marriage is over, the family is still a family. Kelly, and Beth too, I'm sure are very, very aware that their parents are no longer married. Rather than having two parents fighting with each other, which then hurts the child, they are taking the healthy route of showing them that although mom and dad are no longer married, they can still be friends and family. Children of divorce go through so much emotional pain. To see their parents on friendly terms with each other and together, would be very healing in the midst of the reality of the divorce.

And what secret lovers are being kept nearby? There are no "secret lovers" that I've seen.

I believe Hope has always been attracted to Thomas and was secretly waiting for him to change. She’s been tired of Liam a long while. I believe she only married Liam because she was pregnant with Beth. I think Liam and Steffy stay close as a backup plan. They stand too close together. That’s how I interpret the writing. I know many people in real life who co-parent well, but in this show the coparenting seems to be used to keep couples sniffing around each other.

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Zaneygray, 4/23/2024, 10:45AM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.


I don't see any indication that doing family stuff with the kids is meant to give the false illusion that the marriage is intact. Far from it. It is so that the children will know that even though the marriage is over, the family is still a family. Kelly, and Beth too, I'm sure are very, very aware that their parents are no longer married. Rather than having two parents fighting with each other, which then hurts the child, they are taking the healthy route of showing them that although mom and dad are no longer married, they can still be friends and family. Children of divorce go through so much emotional pain. To see their parents on friendly terms with each other and together, would be very healing in the midst of the reality of the divorce.

And what secret lovers are being kept nearby? There are no "secret lovers" that I've seen.


I believe Hope has always been attracted to Thomas and was secretly waiting for him to change. She’s been tired of Liam a long while. I believe she only married Liam because she was pregnant with Beth. I think Liam and Steffy stay close as a backup plan. They stand too close together. That’s how I interpret the writing. I know many people in real life who co-parent well, but in this show the coparenting seems to be used to keep couples sniffing around each other.

I think that Hope couldn't wait to marry Liam in order to "win" over Steffy. Once she felt she had done that, then she started getting bored and then began fantasizing about Thomas and finally gave in and cheated on Liam, blowing up her marriage. I don't see a back up plan with Liam and Steffy. Not at all. Steffy has told Liam repeatedly that she is not interested, and she is deeply in love with her husband. She has not done a single thing to contradict that. Liam may be sniffing, but not Steffy.

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/23/2024, 10:58AM (10 days ago) @Zaneygray

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.


I don't see any indication that doing family stuff with the kids is meant to give the false illusion that the marriage is intact. Far from it. It is so that the children will know that even though the marriage is over, the family is still a family. Kelly, and Beth too, I'm sure are very, very aware that their parents are no longer married. Rather than having two parents fighting with each other, which then hurts the child, they are taking the healthy route of showing them that although mom and dad are no longer married, they can still be friends and family. Children of divorce go through so much emotional pain. To see their parents on friendly terms with each other and together, would be very healing in the midst of the reality of the divorce.

And what secret lovers are being kept nearby? There are no "secret lovers" that I've seen.


I believe Hope has always been attracted to Thomas and was secretly waiting for him to change. She’s been tired of Liam a long while. I believe she only married Liam because she was pregnant with Beth. I think Liam and Steffy stay close as a backup plan. They stand too close together. That’s how I interpret the writing. I know many people in real life who co-parent well, but in this show the coparenting seems to be used to keep couples sniffing around each other.


I think that Hope couldn't wait to marry Liam in order to "win" over Steffy. Once she felt she had done that, then she started getting bored and then began fantasizing about Thomas and finally gave in and cheated on Liam, blowing up her marriage. I don't see a back up plan with Liam and Steffy. Not at all. Steffy has told Liam repeatedly that she is not interested, and she is deeply in love with her husband. She has not done a single thing to contradict that. Liam may be sniffing, but not Steffy.

The key here is Steffy seems beyond it. Liam isn't. So Beth might pick up on that. Co-parenting is one thing if both parents are beyond the relationship. But the confusion comes when one or both is not.

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Drangonfly @, 4/23/2024, 10:46AM (10 days ago) @Zaneygray

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.


I don't see any indication that doing family stuff with the kids is meant to give the false illusion that the marriage is intact. Far from it. It is so that the children will know that even though the marriage is over, the family is still a family. Kelly, and Beth too, I'm sure are very, very aware that their parents are no longer married. Rather than having two parents fighting with each other, which then hurts the child, they are taking the healthy route of showing them that although mom and dad are no longer married, they can still be friends and family. Children of divorce go through so much emotional pain. To see their parents on friendly terms with each other and together, would be very healing in the midst of the reality of the divorce.

And what secret lovers are being kept nearby? There are no "secret lovers" that I've seen.

But it leads to them having sex.

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Zaneygray, 4/23/2024, 11:13AM (10 days ago) @Drangonfly- one person liked this

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.


I don't see any indication that doing family stuff with the kids is meant to give the false illusion that the marriage is intact. Far from it. It is so that the children will know that even though the marriage is over, the family is still a family. Kelly, and Beth too, I'm sure are very, very aware that their parents are no longer married. Rather than having two parents fighting with each other, which then hurts the child, they are taking the healthy route of showing them that although mom and dad are no longer married, they can still be friends and family. Children of divorce go through so much emotional pain. To see their parents on friendly terms with each other and together, would be very healing in the midst of the reality of the divorce.

And what secret lovers are being kept nearby? There are no "secret lovers" that I've seen.


But it leads to them having sex.

No, it doesn't.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/23/2024, 7:15PM (10 days ago) @Drangonfly

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.


I don't see any indication that doing family stuff with the kids is meant to give the false illusion that the marriage is intact. Far from it. It is so that the children will know that even though the marriage is over, the family is still a family. Kelly, and Beth too, I'm sure are very, very aware that their parents are no longer married. Rather than having two parents fighting with each other, which then hurts the child, they are taking the healthy route of showing them that although mom and dad are no longer married, they can still be friends and family. Children of divorce go through so much emotional pain. To see their parents on friendly terms with each other and together, would be very healing in the midst of the reality of the divorce.

And what secret lovers are being kept nearby? There are no "secret lovers" that I've seen.


But it leads to them having sex.

Sure did..in that drugged sex and drunken ONS too (where Liam admitted that Leffy is in his "back pocket" plan B). LOL.

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/23/2024, 10:54AM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

Idk about real life. I never went through it and don't know how modern families do it but I have seen a lot of confusion with the relationships that then causes confusion for kids, just like shown on the soap.

Douglas is the main one showing confusion because he's sensed all this time the unhealthy undertones between the married hope and Thomas. That's why he kept asking to be a family even though she was married/committed to Liam.

The tridge kids went through the same thing because they saw first hand the unhealthy relationships and their mom always waiting on ridge.

I don't think there's any way a child can see their parents break up and reunite over and over and not believe spending time together might start a reunion. It is confusing if the parents don't make it clear. When adults can't even understand complicated relationships, I don't know how kids are supposed to.

It goes that way if parents despise each other, too. I'd think parents need to watch how they present relationships to their kids.

The stories they told in the past were not co-parenting stories. They were of exes trying to get a love back.

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Barbybo, 4/23/2024, 12:26PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

Perhaps this happens in real life. I don’t know. This business about the exes doing family stuff with the kids to give the false illusion that the marriage is in tact. Is this a thing now? I don’t think exes have to be enemies. They should be a a bare minimum cordial. I guess I’m thinking about other soaps on now and old soaps where the parents who got along didn’t talk about the old days like Leffy did yesterday or put their hands all over each others bodies in public like Tridge did year before last. Eric and Brooke have a healthy ex relationship. I know It would be boring if exes were always high functioning. I recognize that. I don’t understand Hope either. She’s all into Thomas is her family. That caused friction with Lope. I guess Liam is my family will cause friction for Thope because Leffy is family caused angst for Hope. I don’t get it. An ex should be an ex sometime. Co-parenting should not be an excuse to keep a secret lover nearby. I think this may be the number 1 reason I do not care for any in this 30 something age group.

I think trips to zoo etc is sick….divorced is divorced get the kid give up hope it’s over..Liam has to stop pestering stalking both he’s a waco

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theduchess, 4/23/2024, 12:29PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

liam and steffy (and ridge and taylor) aren't the only exes who are friends, liam and hope recently had scenes together and they are also friendly exes, i see nothing wrong with it

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/23/2024, 2:17PM (10 days ago) @theduchess

liam and steffy (and ridge and taylor) aren't the only exes who are friends, liam and hope recently had scenes together and they are also friendly exes, i see nothing wrong with it

They are not "friendly" exes if one has feelings for the other beyond friendship. We have heard Liam say he does about Steffy. And with Hope and Liam, that hasn't been fleshed out yet. Between Ridge and Taylor, they apparently can never get over it and keep going back to it. So these are not real friends, either.

What is shows is that, at best, they can "control" their feelings, which is appropriate and is why Hope is such a damn idiot for saying what she did about Liam and Steffy when Liam was controlling his feelings -- and Hope was "trying to control" hers for Thomas.

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Barbybo, 4/23/2024, 3:00PM (10 days ago) @Tiqui1999

liam and steffy (and ridge and taylor) aren't the only exes who are friends, liam and hope recently had scenes together and they are also friendly exes, i see nothing wrong with it


They are not "friendly" exes if one has feelings for the other beyond friendship. We have heard Liam say he does about Steffy. And with Hope and Liam, that hasn't been fleshed out yet. Between Ridge and Taylor, they apparently can never get over it and keep going back to it. So these are not real friends, either.

What is shows is that, at best, they can "control" their feelings, which is appropriate and is why Hope is such a damn idiot for saying what she did about Liam and Steffy when Liam was controlling his feelings -- and Hope was "trying to control" hers for Thomas.

They really need new characters these been rewashed too much same old do overs is stale

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Barbybo, 4/25/2024, 10:30AM (8 days ago) @theduchess

liam and steffy (and ridge and taylor) aren't the only exes who are friends, liam and hope recently had scenes together and they are also friendly exes, i see nothing wrong with it

Liam has no life so he goes back and forth yapping

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Kammie @, 4/23/2024, 4:30PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl

True story.... I have three really good friends... Jane and Charlie were married and have kids. Today Charlie is married to Sally.... Sally and Jane are close like sisters . Jane, Charlie, and Sally all do family stuff together. Charlie still looks after and cares for Jane like she is a wife (just not his wife). The only thing is they are friends with NO benefits. Jane wouldn't touch Charlie with a 10 foot pole. There is no jealousy amongst the trio... Jane tells me that she gets along better with Charlie now that he is another woman's problem. LOL! I would not believe it if I have not seen these people for myself

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