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Not ready to marry "the guy..." (Spoilers)

Tiqui1999 @, 4/1/2024, 1:45PM (31 days ago)
edited by Tiqui1999, 4/1/2024, 1:49PM

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!

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GracieGirl, 4/1/2024, 1:53PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999
edited by GracieGirl, 4/1/2024, 1:56PM

That line reinforced the problem with the story. That line is ridiculous. RJ is the brother of them both. But if you were new to this show, that line alone make it seem as if he’s not related.

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/1/2024, 1:54PM (31 days ago) @GracieGirl

That line reinforced the problem with the story.

Didn't it? I was like, "Really, RJ? That 'guy' is your brother!"

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GracieGirl, 4/1/2024, 1:58PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999

That line reinforced the problem with the story.


Didn't it? I was like, "Really, RJ? That 'guy' is your brother!"

I added a little more to my comment. That dialogue alone make it sound as if RJ is not related to Thomas.

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/1/2024, 1:59PM (31 days ago) @GracieGirl

That line reinforced the problem with the story.


Didn't it? I was like, "Really, RJ? That 'guy' is your brother!"


I added a little more to my comment. That dialogue alone make it sound as if RJ is not related to Thomas.

Right. That's what I meant by the whole thread. Exactly right. :cool

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Viola, 4/1/2024, 1:53PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999- 2 people liked this

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!

I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

About RJ calling Thomas "the guy"... Well, maybe RJ is not so fond of Thomas after all the bad things he has done to Rick, Hope, Beth and Brooke? It makes him smarter than Hope.

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/1/2024, 1:57PM (31 days ago) @Viola- one person liked this

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

This topic is about RJ referring to Thomas, his brother, as merely "the guy..."

And no, I don't think RJ, Luna and Zende should be discussing Thomas and Hope's personal business in the office like that.

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Liz @, 4/1/2024, 2:08PM (31 days ago) @Viola

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

About RJ calling Thomas "the guy"... Well, maybe RJ is not so fond of Thomas after all the bad things he has done to Rick, Hope, Beth and Brooke? It makes him smarter than Hope.

I'm a little confused with your 2nd sentence as Hope and Thomas were together since July 2023 and their relationship was more than "dating" considering they referred to themselves as a family of 4 and Thomas was someone she was considering having another child with.

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Celeste @, 4/1/2024, 2:32PM (31 days ago) @Liz

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

About RJ calling Thomas "the guy"... Well, maybe RJ is not so fond of Thomas after all the bad things he has done to Rick, Hope, Beth and Brooke? It makes him smarter than Hope.


I'm a little confused with your 2nd sentence as Hope and Thomas were together since July 2023 and their relationship was more than "dating" considering they referred to themselves as a family of 4 and Thomas was someone she was considering having another child with.

When did she say this?:surprised

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Viola, 4/1/2024, 2:42PM (31 days ago) @Liz

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

About RJ calling Thomas "the guy"... Well, maybe RJ is not so fond of Thomas after all the bad things he has done to Rick, Hope, Beth and Brooke? It makes him smarter than Hope.


I'm a little confused with your 2nd sentence as Hope and Thomas were together since July 2023 and their relationship was more than "dating" considering they referred to themselves as a family of 4 and Thomas was someone she was considering having another child with.

At first it was sex and no strings attached. They didn't get really close for months after that. Hope was warming up and developing real feelings later on and she always was family with Thomas because of Douglas. Just like Steffy and Liam never stopped calling each other family. I hope that Hope will lose her parental rights and Thomas will find another mommy for Douglas or this connection between Thomas and Hope will continue and they are disgusting.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/1/2024, 2:11PM (31 days ago) @Viola- one person liked this

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

About RJ calling Thomas "the guy"... Well, maybe RJ is not so fond of Thomas after all the bad things he has done to Rick, Hope, Beth and Brooke? It makes him smarter than Hope.

I think the show purposely have RJ called Thomas "the guy" because he IS BLOOD related to both Hope and Thomas, so the show wasn't gonna have RJ say my sister Hope isn't ready to marry my brother. Lmao!

This reminded me of when Steffy and Thomas's mother Taylor was banging their grandpa Eric. The Tridge brats have been calling Eric "grandpa" their entire life, except when their mother was banging grandpa, then all of the sudden, these 2 brats started calling grandpa "Eric".:drunk

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Viola, 4/1/2024, 2:27PM (31 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

About RJ calling Thomas "the guy"... Well, maybe RJ is not so fond of Thomas after all the bad things he has done to Rick, Hope, Beth and Brooke? It makes him smarter than Hope.


I think the show purposely have RJ called Thomas "the guy" because he IS BLOOD related to both Hope and Thomas, so the show wasn't gonna have RJ say my sister Hope isn't ready to marry my brother. Lmao!

This reminded me of when Steffy and Thomas's mother Taylor was banging their grandpa Eric. The Tridge brats have been calling Eric "grandpa" their entire life, except when their mother was banging grandpa, then all of the sudden, these 2 brats started calling grandpa "Eric".:drunk

Could also be true! lol
But honestly I think RJ has more than enough reasons to not feel close to Thomas.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/1/2024, 2:36PM (31 days ago) @Viola

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I think it's pretty realistic. Thomas and Hope are RJ's siblings. Why wouldn't they talk about them?

I don't see RJ saying that nobody can force Hope to marry Thomas as something wrong. She dated him few months and claimed to take things slow. If those would be the 50's I would understand the outrage, but not today. I think that Steffy, Ridge and Thomas are actually abusive when they expect Hope to be ready and see her not being ready as a crime. Hope's biggest crime was starting the relationship with the abuser that harmed her family. Wanting to wait for marriage was not a crime. I am actually happy that at least RJ is a sibling that doesn't think that the world needs to revolve around Thomas and his demands. Hope was stupid to believe Thomas when he said that he is able to wait, but it's not her fault that Thomas lied.

About RJ calling Thomas "the guy"... Well, maybe RJ is not so fond of Thomas after all the bad things he has done to Rick, Hope, Beth and Brooke? It makes him smarter than Hope.


I think the show purposely have RJ called Thomas "the guy" because he IS BLOOD related to both Hope and Thomas, so the show wasn't gonna have RJ say my sister Hope isn't ready to marry my brother. Lmao!

This reminded me of when Steffy and Thomas's mother Taylor was banging their grandpa Eric. The Tridge brats have been calling Eric "grandpa" their entire life, except when their mother was banging grandpa, then all of the sudden, these 2 brats started calling grandpa "Eric".:drunk


Could also be true! lol
But honestly I think RJ has more than enough reasons to not feel close to Thomas.

Yes, RJ never liked what evil Thomas did in the whole baby Beth debacle.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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GLFan, 4/1/2024, 2:04PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!

Agree. RJ’s dialog was bizarre.

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Liz @, 4/1/2024, 2:10PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!

I haven't seen the show yet but RJ purposely not talking about Thomas and Hope as both being his siblings says a lot about the ickiness of their sexual relationship.

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/1/2024, 2:13PM (31 days ago) @Liz

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I haven't seen the show yet but RJ purposely not talking about Thomas and Hope as both being his siblings says a lot about the ickiness of their sexual relationship.

Right. It was VERY strange to me to hear RJ say, "You can't blame Hope for not being ready to marry the guy..."

I mean, he didn't even refer to Thomas with a name in that sentence. It was so detached. I haven't seen it all, so I don't know if he acknowledges that these are his siblings eventually or not, but he really minimized Thomas, calling him "the guy." It was strange to me.

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Celeste @, 4/1/2024, 2:29PM (31 days ago) @Liz

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Viola, 4/1/2024, 2:33PM (31 days ago) @Liz

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!


I haven't seen the show yet but RJ purposely not talking about Thomas and Hope as both being his siblings says a lot about the ickiness of their sexual relationship.

We are probably also supposed to forget about this.
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theduchess, 4/1/2024, 2:27PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999

i couldn't get over hope standing there crying over the dude she cheated with, to liam of all people, are u kidding me? she becomes more unlikeable by the nanosecond

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/1/2024, 2:30PM (31 days ago) @theduchess

i couldn't get over hope standing there crying over the dude she cheated with, to liam of all people, are u kidding me? she becomes more unlikeable by the nanosecond

OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG! I sitting here wondering if I am in Bizzaro's world right now because of her. Hope is a piece of freaking cake and not the good kind --- the fruit cake kind.

She seriously stood there with the man she gambled the whole family on for sex and said this. And put Douglas WAY above Beth as if Beth doesn't even exist! This bitch is a trip blaming all this on Steffy. The icing on the cake is her saying she would have given "anything" not to hurt Douglas. Oh, anything but her hand in marriage!

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Dreamgirl, 4/1/2024, 2:35PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999

i couldn't get over hope standing there crying over the dude she cheated with, to liam of all people, are u kidding me? she becomes more unlikeable by the nanosecond


OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG! I sitting here wondering if I am in Bizzaro's world right now because of her. Hope is a piece of freaking cake and not the good kind --- the fruit cake kind.

She seriously stood there with the man she gambled the whole family on for sex and said this. And put Douglas WAY above Beth as if Beth doesn't even exist! This bitch is a trip blaming all this on Steffy. The icing on the cake is her saying she would have given "anything" not to hurt Douglas. Oh, anything but her hand in marriage!

Haven't watched yet. What did she say? And have they rewritten it already to make a Hope out to be some kind of victim when she is the one who made the choice to not marry Thomas?

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/1/2024, 2:37PM (31 days ago) @Dreamgirl

i couldn't get over hope standing there crying over the dude she cheated with, to liam of all people, are u kidding me? she becomes more unlikeable by the nanosecond


OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG! I sitting here wondering if I am in Bizzaro's world right now because of her. Hope is a piece of freaking cake and not the good kind --- the fruit cake kind.

She seriously stood there with the man she gambled the whole family on for sex and said this. And put Douglas WAY above Beth as if Beth doesn't even exist! This bitch is a trip blaming all this on Steffy. The icing on the cake is her saying she would have given "anything" not to hurt Douglas. Oh, anything but her hand in marriage!


Haven't watched yet. What did she say? And have they rewritten it already to make a Hope out to be some kind of victim when she is the one who made the choice to not marry Thomas?

Completely. And you wouldn't even know Liam was the ex husband she cheated on and whose family is in shambles because she left it for this other family she's crying to him about. You won't even believe it. She told Liam Douglas and Thomas would even still be there if it hadn't been for Steffy -- as if Thomas, the man she claims is so perfect, suddenly has no mind of his own! Even worse, Liam has none. He's just listening like he was never part of it.

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Dreamgirl, 4/1/2024, 2:40PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999

i couldn't get over hope standing there crying over the dude she cheated with, to liam of all people, are u kidding me? she becomes more unlikeable by the nanosecond


OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG! I sitting here wondering if I am in Bizzaro's world right now because of her. Hope is a piece of freaking cake and not the good kind --- the fruit cake kind.

She seriously stood there with the man she gambled the whole family on for sex and said this. And put Douglas WAY above Beth as if Beth doesn't even exist! This bitch is a trip blaming all this on Steffy. The icing on the cake is her saying she would have given "anything" not to hurt Douglas. Oh, anything but her hand in marriage!


Haven't watched yet. What did she say? And have they rewritten it already to make a Hope out to be some kind of victim when she is the one who made the choice to not marry Thomas?


Completely. And you wouldn't even know Liam was the ex husband she cheated on and whose family is in shambles because she left it for this other family she's crying to him about. You won't even believe it. She told Liam Douglas and Thomas would even still be there if it hadn't been for Steffy -- as if Thomas, the man she claims is so perfect, suddenly has no mind of his own! Even worse, Liam has none. He's just listening like he was never part of it.

Thanks. Ugh! That sounds so infuriating! I don't think I'll watch today.

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Celeste @, 4/1/2024, 2:28PM (31 days ago) @Tiqui1999

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

totally agree but it happens all the time on this show. One single storyline and all the rest of the cast talking about that for day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!

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Of course they try to make less evident the fact that Thope share a brother because they try to hide how sick and pervert the idea of Thope is.

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Steph042683, 4/2/2024, 1:48PM (30 days ago) @Tiqui1999

First, what the hell are Luna, RJ and Zende doing discussing Hope and Thomas' personal business? They need to be delousing the office and moving on with the business of the day.

Second, did RJ really just say no one could blame Hope for not being ready to marry "the guy" as if Thomas was just some rando and not RJ's brother? Why to compartmentalize his siblings being in a relationship, writers!

I for one am happy
Thope is over,Given
Creepy Tom is magically
cured of his Hope Logan obsession.
Now I hope Creepy Tom
& Douglas stay in Paris
forever.Now my fave girl Hope Logan
can move on with her life.

xoxo
Steph
#AProudSheilaCarter+Hope Logan+Dylan & Jessica Fan & Supporter

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