Things we learned from Hope today (General)

matisse, 3/30/2024, 12:14AM (30 days ago)

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/30/2024, 12:25AM (30 days ago) @matisse

I saw and heard those things. It sounded like going forward Thope was done. She isn't even booking a flight, is she? Also, she's not worried about HFTF, either. I think it would be so dumb if that line goes on as if Thomas was never there. The writers really need to address that.

But hey, they are the same ones that sent Taylor packing in the middle of SLs, so....

Hope said she wasn't out for revenge. Maybe famous last words. We'll see. But if she wants revenge, she should just go break mirror because she brought this on herself.

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Julia Andrew, 3/30/2024, 3:47AM (30 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this
edited by Julia Andrew, 3/30/2024, 3:51AM

Yeah, it looks like Hope isn't going to do ANYTHING to save her relationship to Thomas.
I'm really disapponted.
Hope is only proving Steffy right, that she never loved Thomas and never will.
She's only upset because she lost someone who she took for granted.

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Celeste @, 3/30/2024, 1:35AM (30 days ago) @matisse

All I care is that sick couple is over. Thomas is the creepest of the creepers.

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Steph042683, 3/30/2024, 3:15AM (30 days ago) @Celeste

All I care is that sick couple is over. Thomas is the creepest of the creepers.

I agree Celeste,
I'm a Hope Logan fan,
And I'm happy Thope
is buried and dead.I'm
happy Creepy Tom
& the cruel kid are gone.
I hope they stay in Paris
forever.Now I'm looking
forward to the Hope storyline
And seeing how she overcomes
this & moves on with her life.

xoxo
Steph
#Team Sheila Carter&Flo+Hope Logan+Dylan & Jessica Fan & Supporter

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Viola, 3/30/2024, 4:27AM (30 days ago) @Celeste

All I care is that sick couple is over. Thomas is the creepest of the creepers.

One forum member called him the leading creeper few days ago :lol

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Celeste @, 3/30/2024, 5:32AM (30 days ago) @Viola

All I care is that sick couple is over. Thomas is the creepest of the creepers.


One forum member called him the leading creeper few days ago :lol

This forum member spoke nothing but truth:lol

Things we learned from Hope today

hopeyougogirl, 3/30/2024, 3:40AM (30 days ago) @matisse

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.

Nasty bully Steffy get in Hope's face plenty! Hope's the one that needed to get in Steffy's face more and call her out on her crap. Besides, Steffy is the queen of never staying out of other couple's business..Batie/Lope/Livy/Wivy/Tally/Queric/Bridge, so she ain't got no room to bring up about Hope interfering hers. Lmao! What the writers should've done was when Steffy had the nerve of calling Hope the s word..is for Hope to laugh in Steffy's face telling her the Spencer mattress s who's also a miss paternity tests had the nerve to call me a s...?:drunk

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Dreamgirl, 3/30/2024, 5:28AM (30 days ago) @matisse- 4 people liked this[O]

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.

Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.

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matisse, 3/30/2024, 8:35AM (30 days ago) @Dreamgirl- one person liked this

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.

I didn't say Hope had to show Steffy respect or not go after Finn or anything else she wants to do to her. I was just pointing out that the show never has anyone saying the thing they should be saying in certain scenes, and I wish they would. The big theme yesterday was outside interference. Steffy should have been reminding Hope that SHE interfered in her relationship with Liam, when she came back to town. She told Steffy she was going to talk to Liam about working it out with Steffy, and in the end she had sex with him. These 2 women feel they have plenty of blame to lay at each other's feet. When Steffy called Hope trash yesterday and said she just wanted sex from Tom, then Hope should have been making a snarky remark about Bill and Liam and ask Steffy just "who is trash and just wanted sex?" The show never gets to why these 2 really hate each other....their mothers. They let Steffy get remarks in, but Hope never gets to punch back with anything about how Taylor illegally bought Beth and handed her over to Steffy to raise. Hope never gets to mention that Taylor has also slept with every member of Hope's male family, including her older brother. And Hope is forbidden to point out that Taylor SHOT Hope's FIL and left him to die, on purpose. I have no problem at all with Hope now going after Finn for revenge on Steffy.

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hopeyougogirl, 3/30/2024, 11:07AM (29 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.


I didn't say Hope had to show Steffy respect or not go after Finn or anything else she wants to do to her. I was just pointing out that the show never has anyone saying the thing they should be saying in certain scenes, and I wish they would. The big theme yesterday was outside interference. Steffy should have been reminding Hope that SHE interfered in her relationship with Liam, when she came back to town. She told Steffy she was going to talk to Liam about working it out with Steffy, and in the end she had sex with him. These 2 women feel they have plenty of blame to lay at each other's feet. When Steffy called Hope trash yesterday and said she just wanted sex from Tom, then Hope should have been making a snarky remark about Bill and Liam and ask Steffy just "who is trash and just wanted sex?" The show never gets to why these 2 really hate each other....their mothers. They let Steffy get remarks in, but Hope never gets to punch back with anything about how Taylor illegally bought Beth and handed her over to Steffy to raise. Hope never gets to mention that Taylor has also slept with every member of Hope's male family, including her older brother. And Hope is forbidden to point out that Taylor SHOT Hope's FIL and left him to die, on purpose. I have no problem at all with Hope now going after Finn for revenge on Steffy.

Problem I have is RARELY does anyone get to call violent bully Steffy out for her years of nasty crap, yet she gets to constantly bashing Brooke and Hope about their stuff when IMO Steffy is far far worse than Hope in cheating and in scandals/paternity tests plus her crimes. It's about damn time that Hope at least gets to call out Steffy alittle and how disappointing that Hope didn't even get to slap the crap out of that evil witch who actually started a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to her! IMO, Ringleader/bully Steffy is the shrew with a deep deep hatred of Hope. Hope may not like Steffy but I don't think her resentment of Steffy even came close to Steffy's level of Logan hatred..not even close imo.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Barbybo, 3/30/2024, 8:38AM (30 days ago) @Dreamgirl

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.

No one should go after a married guy and Liam’s also wrong wanting a married steffy…I don’t see how going after a married guy is any way justifiable….that is not cool… there’s no power in taking another’s spouse and with kids it’s disgusting…the writers need new stuff not recycled vendettas

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lynnsmom, 3/30/2024, 8:45AM (30 days ago) @Barbybo

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.


No one should go after a married guy and Liam’s also wrong wanting a married steffy…I don’t see how going after a married guy is any way justifiable….that is not cool… there’s no power in taking another’s spouse and with kids it’s disgusting…the writers need new stuff not recycled vendettas

Yes, it was disgusting watching Steffy go after multiple married men. Also disgusting to see her sleep with two married men and need pregnancy tests for both her kids.

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Sammy @, 3/30/2024, 9:14AM (29 days ago) @Dreamgirl

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.

Great post :cool

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Drangonfly @, 3/30/2024, 10:03AM (29 days ago) @Dreamgirl- one person liked this

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.

Exactly. Steffy wrote the playbook on going after taken men. 'Engaged is not married. It was just a kiss, get over it. I'm better for him than she is. He needs a woman that appreciates him and gives him what he needs. Cha! Cha! Cha!'

I hope Hope is there to comfort Finn if he breaks down at the memorial service. What is Steffy gonna do? Punch her in the face?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Shimster @, 3/30/2024, 2:25PM (29 days ago) @Drangonfly

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.


Exactly. Steffy wrote the playbook on going after taken men. 'Engaged is not married. It was just a kiss, get over it. I'm better for him than she is. He needs a woman that appreciates him and gives him what he needs. Cha! Cha! Cha!'

I hope Hope is there to comfort Finn if he breaks down at the memorial service. What is Steffy gonna do? Punch her in the face?

Oh - it was more than that - Taylor also encouraged Steffy to go after Liam with the "engaged is not married" bologna.

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Drangonfly @, 3/30/2024, 2:32PM (29 days ago) @Shimster- one person liked this

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.

It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


Steffy has no room to say anything to Hope. Whatever Hope did, Steffy brought it on herself. Even if Hope goes after Finn, I'll be cheering her on because Hope owes Steffy less than zero respect. It's about time someone gave Steffy a taste of her own medicine. And Steffy put the cracks in her marriage herself. If Hope took advantage, more power to her. She was simply taking a page out of Steffys own playbook. I will never understand why Hope is supposed to show Steffy any kind of respect at all when Steffy never showed her any.


Exactly. Steffy wrote the playbook on going after taken men. 'Engaged is not married. It was just a kiss, get over it. I'm better for him than she is. He needs a woman that appreciates him and gives him what he needs. Cha! Cha! Cha!'

I hope Hope is there to comfort Finn if he breaks down at the memorial service. What is Steffy gonna do? Punch her in the face?


Oh - it was more than that - Taylor also encouraged Steffy to go after Liam with the "engaged is not married" bologna.

She sure did. It was a full on campaign to snag Liam for Steffy.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Things we learned from Hope today

Kammie @, 3/30/2024, 2:58PM (29 days ago) @Shimster

She also encouraged Steffy to get knocked up again 5 minutes after her reckless behavior killed her baby. Taylor knew it was the only way for Steffy to keep her claws in Liam and away from Hope.

Things we learned from Hope today

Kammie @, 3/30/2024, 3:22PM (29 days ago) @matisse

She knows that Thope is over, and she is not even talking about getting it back. She solidified to Steffy that they are done, and they will never find out if they could have had a future together. She blames Steffy instead of herself.

> She admitted to Steffy they she will never forget what Tom did during the baby Beth debacle, which means, it is still an issue for her. Not saying she would ever forget, but her telling her enemy and his sister, that she will never forget tells me that it is one of the reasons she would never end up with him.

> Hope is no longer claiming that Liam and his divided heart over Steffy is what caused her to "break"....because she had amble opportunity today to throw it in Steffy's face, especially when Steffy brought up Liam.


It also sounds like Hope has written off Doug too, since she was saying she lost Tom and Doug too.

Today showed us that the story going forward is going to be Hope out to get even with Steffy, and stupid Steffy thinking there is nothing Hope can do. These 2 are going to destroy more lives in their vendetta against each other.

An aside here, I wish the writers had Steffy getting up in Hope's face and saying...."you mean how you stayed out of mine and Liam's business when we were beginning to work through what happened with Bill, and I was pregnant with Kelly? I remember you came to me Hope and told me you wanted to help us, and I was grateful to you. You helped us alright, more like you helped yourself." .....now I wanted Lope together, and I thought what Steffy did with Bill was really awful, and lying about it was worse, but Hope did come over to see Steffy and butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth, and then when she found out what Steffy had done, she was all in and getting Liam back for herself. I can see how Steffy may have been waiting years to get even with Hope for that scam.


1. If she did this to punish Thomas for Beth.... Then good for her! I am glad that she acknowledged how bad Thomas hurt her and her family. And that is what is stopping her from marrying him.

2.. Just because she didn't throw it in Steffy's face, does not mean that is not how she feels. Only Steffy is allowed to throw crap in Hope and Brooke's face.... Plus it is only 19 minutes of dialogue and the focus of the show for the day was Thope, and Thomas as well as trashing Hope and Brooke, NOT Steam or how they treated Hope. There is not enough time for Hope to spill all of her grievances against Steffy

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