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GracieGirl, 3/18/2024, 11:01PM (39 days ago)

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.

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Joy, 3/18/2024, 11:17PM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.

I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.

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Liz @, 3/18/2024, 11:20PM (39 days ago) @Joy- one person liked this

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.

Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.

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Joy, 3/18/2024, 11:47PM (39 days ago) @Liz

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.

Kim Matula's last appearance as Hope was in December of 2014. Annika Noelle's first appearance as Hope was in January of 2018. That was a little over 3 years in real life that Hope was in Milan. In soap years it would be even less. That is not a long time when Hope had been in relationships her entire adult life and mostly with Liam involved going back and forth with her and Steffy. I can see where Hope would want to step back and have a little fun before settling down with someone again. I just wish it wasn't Thomas that she was having fun with.

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Liz @, 3/19/2024, 12:00AM (39 days ago) @Joy- one person liked this

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.


Kim Matula's last appearance as Hope was in December of 2014. Annika Noelle's first appearance as Hope was in January of 2018. That was a little over 3 years in real life that Hope was in Milan. In soap years it would be even less. That is not a long time when Hope had been in relationships her entire adult life and mostly with Liam involved going back and forth with her and Steffy. I can see where Hope would want to step back and have a little fun before settling down with someone again. I just wish it wasn't Thomas that she was having fun with.

Hope and Steffy didn't even share the screen for about 5 years. So, not sure how she's spent much of her adult life with Liam going back and forth between her and Steffy. Add to that the past 5 years in which Liam has been with Hope, well Hope and Thomas that is.

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Joy, 3/19/2024, 12:33AM (39 days ago) @Liz

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.


Kim Matula's last appearance as Hope was in December of 2014. Annika Noelle's first appearance as Hope was in January of 2018. That was a little over 3 years in real life that Hope was in Milan. In soap years it would be even less. That is not a long time when Hope had been in relationships her entire adult life and mostly with Liam involved going back and forth with her and Steffy. I can see where Hope would want to step back and have a little fun before settling down with someone again. I just wish it wasn't Thomas that she was having fun with.


Hope and Steffy didn't even share the screen for about 5 years. So, not sure how she's spent much of her adult life with Liam going back and forth between her and Steffy. Add to that the past 5 years in which Liam has been with Hope, well Hope and Thomas that is.

The point that I was trying to make is Hope has been in a serious relationship most of her adult life. Maybe she needs a break to just have fun for a while until she decides what she wants out of a relationship at this time in her life.

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/19/2024, 8:22AM (39 days ago) @Joy

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.


Kim Matula's last appearance as Hope was in December of 2014. Annika Noelle's first appearance as Hope was in January of 2018. That was a little over 3 years in real life that Hope was in Milan. In soap years it would be even less. That is not a long time when Hope had been in relationships her entire adult life and mostly with Liam involved going back and forth with her and Steffy. I can see where Hope would want to step back and have a little fun before settling down with someone again. I just wish it wasn't Thomas that she was having fun with.


Hope and Steffy didn't even share the screen for about 5 years. So, not sure how she's spent much of her adult life with Liam going back and forth between her and Steffy. Add to that the past 5 years in which Liam has been with Hope, well Hope and Thomas that is.


The point that I was trying to make is Hope has been in a serious relationship most of her adult life. Maybe she needs a break to just have fun for a while until she decides what she wants out of a relationship at this time in her life.

She did that with Wyatt. She needs to stop using men as fun tools when they tell her they want more.

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Liz @, 3/19/2024, 8:23AM (39 days ago) @Joy- one person liked this

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.


Kim Matula's last appearance as Hope was in December of 2014. Annika Noelle's first appearance as Hope was in January of 2018. That was a little over 3 years in real life that Hope was in Milan. In soap years it would be even less. That is not a long time when Hope had been in relationships her entire adult life and mostly with Liam involved going back and forth with her and Steffy. I can see where Hope would want to step back and have a little fun before settling down with someone again. I just wish it wasn't Thomas that she was having fun with.


Hope and Steffy didn't even share the screen for about 5 years. So, not sure how she's spent much of her adult life with Liam going back and forth between her and Steffy. Add to that the past 5 years in which Liam has been with Hope, well Hope and Thomas that is.


The point that I was trying to make is Hope has been in a serious relationship most of her adult life. Maybe she needs a break to just have fun for a while until she decides what she wants out of a relationship at this time in her life.

Hope has 2 young children and she's currently involved with the father of one of them who has been obsessed with her for years. If she needs a break to just have fun, perhaps cheating on your husband, destroying your family and jumping into bed with a psycho wasn't the best way to have fun. :neutral

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/19/2024, 8:17AM (39 days ago) @Joy

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.


Kim Matula's last appearance as Hope was in December of 2014. Annika Noelle's first appearance as Hope was in January of 2018. That was a little over 3 years in real life that Hope was in Milan. In soap years it would be even less. That is not a long time when Hope had been in relationships her entire adult life and mostly with Liam involved going back and forth with her and Steffy. I can see where Hope would want to step back and have a little fun before settling down with someone again. I just wish it wasn't Thomas that she was having fun with.

She left married to Wyatt. Not Liam. No steffy in sight, and she came back because she was ready to. So she had enough time.

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matisse, 3/18/2024, 11:57PM (39 days ago) @Liz- one person liked this

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.

Yup....and she told Liam she dated, and there was someone for awhile, but she just could not commit, because she thought of him.

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/19/2024, 8:25AM (39 days ago) @matisse

Perhaps Hope wants a modern relationship. She doesn’t need a husband. if that’s true can Thomas accept that? Why is he in such a rush to be married? He’s been desperate for this marriage for years but Hope isn’t desperate. She’s not looking for a knight in shining armor.


I think you are right. Hope has either been married, in a relationship or fighting for a relationship with Liam most of her adult life. Hope may be wanting to take a little break to figure out what she really wants. I just wish she wouldn't have gotten involved with Thomas the way that she did.


Hope had years living in Milan on her own to figure out who she was and what she wanted.


Yup....and she told Liam she dated, and there was someone for awhile, but she just could not commit, because she thought of him.

And it's funny Thomas is now acting like Hope gaslighted him with the ring! Lol

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Julia Andrew, 3/19/2024, 6:20AM (39 days ago) @Joy

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2024, 6:39AM (39 days ago) @Julia Andrew- one person liked this

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.

I disagree completely. Hope told Thomas straight up that she needed time. He flat out refused to listen. That is on Thomas. Thomas is a grown up. If he isn't happy with the relationship that they both agreed to, then HE needs to be a big boy and own that and make sure his garbage sister keeps her nasty nose out of it. Thomas should not have keep pressuring her when he already told her he wouldn't pressure her. It seem Thomas mislead Hope by saying he was fine with how things were.

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Julia Andrew, 3/19/2024, 8:12AM (39 days ago) @lynnsmom

How does Thomas mislead Hope by wanting more? She knew it all along.
If she's not on the same page /which is ok/ she shouldn't have accept his ring as a necklace, or in any other way.
It couldn't be more simple.
Yet Hope wanted to have the cake and eat it too.

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2024, 8:50AM (39 days ago) @Julia Andrew

How does Thomas mislead Hope by wanting more? She knew it all along.
If she's not on the same page /which is ok/ she shouldn't have accept his ring as a necklace, or in any other way.
It couldn't be more simple.
Yet Hope wanted to have the cake and eat it too.

Yet Thomas ALSO told Thomas all along that she was not ready for that commitment, so she was honest. It couldn't be more simple. Thomas claimed to be okay with it, but now he isn't. His choice. And her choice after his ultimatum (and yes, when he said it was a make or break moment for them, he was giving an ultimatum), she said no.

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Julia Andrew, 3/19/2024, 9:46AM (39 days ago) @lynnsmom

The way I see it:
Thomas was ok at the beginning and he gave Hope time.
Yet he was hoping their relationship to develop and THIS IS, what normaly should happen, because Hope and Thomas are 30+.
I agree that he pushed a bit too much, but this wasn't because he disrespected Hope's wishes.
For me he just wanted a clear answer, where he stands in Hope's life. And he've got the answer:
He stands after Hope herself, after her career, after her kids, after everything in Hope's life.
Who can blame him he's upset? I can't.

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2024, 9:49AM (39 days ago) @Julia Andrew

The way I see it:
Thomas was ok at the beginning and he gave Hope time.
Yet he was hoping their relationship to develop and THIS IS, what normaly should happen, because Hope and Thomas are 30+.
I agree that he pushed a bit too much, but this wasn't because he disrespected Hope's wishes.
For me he just wanted a clear answer, where he stands in Hope's life. And he've got the answer:
He stands after Hope herself, after her career, after her kids, after everything in Hope's life.
Who can blame him he's upset? I can't.

I can certainly blame him for giving her an ultimatum. That is my choice and how I see it.

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Julia Andrew, 3/19/2024, 10:19AM (39 days ago) @lynnsmom

Don' t you have in your real life people /couples/ who move forward because of such "ultimatums"?
It happens all the time in mine. No offense here.

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2024, 11:08AM (39 days ago) @Julia Andrew- one person liked this

Don' t you have in your real life people /couples/ who move forward because of such "ultimatums"?
It happens all the time in mine. No offense here.

The problem here is that both people in the relationship knew the deal. It was Thomas who changed, yet Hope is being blamed. I think ultimatums are terrible. Anyone I know and deal with, we have honest dialog and explain feelings (like what Hope has already told Thomas). If Thomas was not happy with the deal he already agreed to, he could have simply told Hope that he is no longer good with it and cannot keep on. That is the healthy and proper thing to do. Not to deliver a "now or never" ultimatum like a child. No offense here.

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matisse, 3/19/2024, 8:49AM (39 days ago) @lynnsmom

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.


I disagree completely. Hope told Thomas straight up that she needed time. He flat out refused to listen. That is on Thomas. Thomas is a grown up. If he isn't happy with the relationship that they both agreed to, then HE needs to be a big boy and own that and make sure his garbage sister keeps her nasty nose out of it. Thomas should not have keep pressuring her when he already told her he wouldn't pressure her. It seem Thomas mislead Hope by saying he was fine with how things were.

IA that Tom should own that he is the one that believed he could change her mind, when she told him how she felt from the beginning. But, didn't she have a responsibility to not let him put that ring around her neck in January, and even tell him they should not be sexually involved any longer since it was obvious he was not heating what she was saying?

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2024, 8:51AM (39 days ago) @matisse

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.


I disagree completely. Hope told Thomas straight up that she needed time. He flat out refused to listen. That is on Thomas. Thomas is a grown up. If he isn't happy with the relationship that they both agreed to, then HE needs to be a big boy and own that and make sure his garbage sister keeps her nasty nose out of it. Thomas should not have keep pressuring her when he already told her he wouldn't pressure her. It seem Thomas mislead Hope by saying he was fine with how things were.


IA that Tom should own that he is the one that believed he could change her mind, when she told him how she felt from the beginning. But, didn't she have a responsibility to not let him put that ring around her neck in January, and even tell him they should not be sexually involved any longer since it was obvious he was not heating what she was saying?

He claimed to be on the same page. Hope isn't a mind reader. Yes, she should have seen the red flags, but she also took him at his word. He apparently did not take her at her word. She hasn't changed her mind. He did.

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Joy, 3/19/2024, 12:08PM (39 days ago) @lynnsmom

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.


I disagree completely. Hope told Thomas straight up that she needed time. He flat out refused to listen. That is on Thomas. Thomas is a grown up. If he isn't happy with the relationship that they both agreed to, then HE needs to be a big boy and own that and make sure his garbage sister keeps her nasty nose out of it. Thomas should not have keep pressuring her when he already told her he wouldn't pressure her. It seem Thomas mislead Hope by saying he was fine with how things were.

I agree with everything you said. The Forresters treat Thomas as if he is a 12-year-old kid.

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/19/2024, 8:27AM (39 days ago) @Julia Andrew

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.

Gaslighting. Now he feels crazy,trying to figure out what went wrong.

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matisse, 3/19/2024, 8:45AM (39 days ago) @Julia Andrew

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.

You bring up Brooke. I wonder if somehow Brooke is going to get the blame by Tom and Ridge both for this latest turn of events, since it happened right after Brooke and Hope spoke?

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lynnsmom, 3/19/2024, 8:48AM (39 days ago) @matisse

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.


You bring up Brooke. I wonder if somehow Brooke is going to get the blame by Tom and Ridge both for this latest turn of events, since it happened right after Brooke and Hope spoke?

If Ridge or Thomas tries to blame Brooke, I hope both Brooke and Hope put them in check. Brooke was kind and optimistic, though graded. She did not tell Hope what to do. And she shared that exact info with Ridge.

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matisse, 3/19/2024, 8:51AM (39 days ago) @lynnsmom

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.


You bring up Brooke. I wonder if somehow Brooke is going to get the blame by Tom and Ridge both for this latest turn of events, since it happened right after Brooke and Hope spoke?


If Ridge or Thomas tries to blame Brooke, I hope both Brooke and Hope put them in check. Brooke was kind and optimistic, though graded. She did not tell Hope what to do. And she shared that exact info with Ridge.

Yes, I really liked Brooke telling Ridge what was said, and also telling Hope it was her choice what she wanted to do. We saw the picture for this week of Tom and Brooke, and in that one picture he does not look like he is mad or snarking at her.

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Viola, 3/19/2024, 9:12AM (39 days ago) @matisse

I could understand that.
But Hope handled it all wrong.
If a marriage to Thomas isn't an option for her at all, she should have made it clear by NOT TAKING the ring, even as a necklace.
She should also keep a kind of distance to him, knowing that he is all on her.
Instead she set Thomas' hopes up and even Brooke got the impression Thope could work after all.
So again: Hope handled it WRONG and clearly misleaded Thomas.
So I hope Thomas finds the strength to end it all with Hope and like Steffy said, to focus on a future without her.


You bring up Brooke. I wonder if somehow Brooke is going to get the blame by Tom and Ridge both for this latest turn of events, since it happened right after Brooke and Hope spoke?


If Ridge or Thomas tries to blame Brooke, I hope both Brooke and Hope put them in check. Brooke was kind and optimistic, though graded. She did not tell Hope what to do. And she shared that exact info with Ridge.


Yes, I really liked Brooke telling Ridge what was said, and also telling Hope it was her choice what she wanted to do. We saw the picture for this week of Tom and Brooke, and in that one picture he does not look like he is mad or snarking at her.

There might be a problem when Ridge will attack Hope. Brooke will be on Hope's side.

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Steph042683, 3/19/2024, 4:07AM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl

Graciegirl,
I see trouble brewing because
even if Thope stays together.
I see that being in the back of
Creepy Tom's mind that my fave girl Hope Logan
turned down all of his marriage proposals.
I just don't see Thope working out.
I already know there will be no Thope Wedding or Thope Babies,
As that would be Extra Extra Extra creepy and sick.
So my question is where do Thope go from here?
Because we all know Creepy Tom isn't gonna
take rejection well and neither is the Tridge Mafia.
My fave girl Hope Logan needs to be mindful about Creepy Tom.
I think Hope needs to break it off with Creepy Tom.
Otherwise,my fave girk Hope Logan needs to be cautous and careful about Creepy Tom.

xoxo,
Steph
#Team Sheila Carter +Hope Logan +Dylan & Jessica +Flo Fulton
#FreeHopeLogan

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GracieGirl, 3/19/2024, 8:35AM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl
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Some say Hope outgrew Liam, maybe she outgrew Thomas, too. He may see their sexscapades as signs that she is majorly in love with him in a committed way. It’s an old fashion view of women in a way. His version of Hope would not do that without being ready for a commitment. Maybe he’s got it all wrong.

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/19/2024, 8:51AM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl

Some say Hope outgrew Liam, maybe she outgrew Thomas, too. He may see their sexscapades as signs that she is majorly in love with him in a committed way. It’s an old fashion view of women in a way. His version of Hope would not do that without being ready for a commitment. Maybe he’s got it all wrong.

And to me, it makes no sense that she outgrew Liam into the likes of sophomoric, Obsessed thomas? Really?
That sounds like a backward growth.

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GracieGirl, 3/19/2024, 8:57AM (39 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Hope is so pathetic to me. The way Thomas stomped out of that room proves how childish he still is.

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matisse, 3/19/2024, 10:37AM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl

Hope is so pathetic to me. The way Thomas stomped out of that room proves how childish he still is.

When I re-watched it, he cried "no" then turned and ran out after she said...."I can't be your wife Tom"....to me that sounded like a final answer from her. First she said she could not accept his proposal, and he was still standing there, then she said "I can't be your wife"....that seemed to put a dagger in his heart.

I want him to get a little edge to him, I want bad Tom back, but not crazy Tom. Crazy Tom should be over and done with now. Now it is time for a harder and edgier Tom. JMO

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Maybe the woman Tom obsessed over no longer exists

Tiqui1999 @, 3/19/2024, 12:09PM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl

Hope is so pathetic to me. The way Thomas stomped out of that room proves how childish he still is.

She has turned him down so many times since Cabo, he should not have been fazed.

Maybe the woman Tom obsessed over no longer exists

matisse, 3/19/2024, 8:54AM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl

Some say Hope outgrew Liam, maybe she outgrew Thomas, too. He may see their sexscapades as signs that she is majorly in love with him in a committed way. It’s an old fashion view of women in a way. His version of Hope would not do that without being ready for a commitment. Maybe he’s got it all wrong.

That is an interesting take on it. Personally I don't think Hope outgrew Liam, I think she got caught and got ousted, when she wanted to stay right where she was....with Liam. But, your idea of it could be what this is all about. Hope changing and really wanting no man from her past, on a permanent basis.

Maybe the woman Tom obsessed over no longer exists

Barbybo, 3/19/2024, 1:05PM (39 days ago) @GracieGirl

They should shack up like many couples …no need for a piece of paper

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