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BBDownunder, 3/10/2024, 4:51PM (68 days ago)

Hope (Annika Noelle) is concerned about Deacon’s (Sean Kanan) mental health.

Thomas (Matthew Atkinson) is concerned about Steffy’s (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) mental health.

Luna (Lisa Yamada) and Bill (Don Diamont) have a bonding conversation.

Steffy and Finn (Tanner Novlan) do everything to get past Sheila’s (Kimberlin Brown) death.

Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) tells Thomas to be bold in his relationship with Hope.

Hope and Thomas reminisce about Rome.

Luna continues to be weighed down with guilt about her night with Zende (Delon de Metz).

Finn experiences visions about Sheila’s death while trying to reconnect with Steffy.

Hope tries to make Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) see the light about Thomas.

Bill offers to support Luna when she can’t connect with Poppy (Romy Park).
Ridge advocates for Thomas with Brooke.

Finn loses his cool when he can’t get dead Sheila out of his head.

Thomas designs Hope a gown.

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 5:07PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder- one person liked this

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please

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BBDownunder, 3/10/2024, 5:10PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please

Looks likes she will be spilling the beans to Bill too who i still think is her father. i dont trust Poppy

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Shimster @, 3/10/2024, 5:18PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder- 2 people liked this

A bit way too much Thope for me! Not interested.

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 5:40PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.

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Barbybo, 3/10/2024, 5:42PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please

R.j luna most boreing couple on show

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 6:01PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please


Looks likes she will be spilling the beans to Bill too who i still think is her father. i dont trust Poppy

I agree and i think Bill is her father too

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 6:02PM (68 days ago) @Barbybo

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please


R.j luna most boreing couple on show

Ohhhh jeeez I know it

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bnbviewer, 3/10/2024, 6:02PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.

Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 6:05PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.

Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 6:06PM (68 days ago) @bnbviewer

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral

I know I am tired of hearing Luna talk about it. Let’s get it over with

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 6:11PM (68 days ago) @bnbviewer

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral

Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 6:14PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.

I agree. Would make great drama and something different

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 6:23PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great

It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 3/10/2024, 6:37PM (68 days ago) @bnbviewer

Who would want to compete for RJ's affection? Rather for Zende's, he is so good looking and if they don't ruin his character he could be a love interest for either mother or daughter...I sure saw some chemistry with Poppy.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 3/10/2024, 6:41PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Looks like Hope might be wanting to accept this time...why else would she ask her mother to come around?

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 6:49PM (68 days ago) @Joy- one person liked this

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.

Take as long as you need. In soap time it seems those phone calls happened forever ago. Those phone calls didn’t ruin Brooke’s marriage for long. Brooke’s marriages, especially with Ridge, have always been ruined throughout the beginning and before Thomas. Nothing new
Hope never had to say yes to wearing that ring around her neck. Anytime she could take it off. Nothing will happen to her if she were to take it off. Hope even seems to hold that necklace as if it means something to her
Hope is coming off very happy with Thomas. He hasn’t locked her is a closet and has made no demands. If Hope wanted she could end it, doesn’t seem like she wants to end it since she goes to Thomas as much as he comes to her

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dxdobson, 3/10/2024, 7:21PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.


Take as long as you need. In soap time it seems those phone calls happened forever ago. Those phone calls didn’t ruin Brooke’s marriage for long. Brooke’s marriages, especially with Ridge, have always been ruined throughout the beginning and before Thomas. Nothing new
Hope never had to say yes to wearing that ring around her neck. Anytime she could take it off. Nothing will happen to her if she were to take it off. Hope even seems to hold that necklace as if it means something to her
Hope is coming off very happy with Thomas. He hasn’t locked her is a closet and has made no demands. If Hope wanted she could end it, doesn’t seem like she wants to end it since she goes to Thomas as much as he comes to her

If Hope wants to accept Thomas’ proposal just accept it! She has ignored her mother’s reasonable advice to this point. And Brooke was right. Hope ruined her marriage putting her “line” first. It was not Liam’s fault like she tried to say.
As for Thomas how has he proven he has changed? He is still obsessed with Hope and whether Hope marries Thomas or not he can still be obsessed to the point of not wanting her to have friendships with anyone else or if her mother refuses to accept him, he may again try to make trouble for her.
He already did sneak in a hit on why is Brooke so mean to me to Ridge. Thomas has not changed he is just being calm because Hope is giving him
attention and sex.
Also I think the OP may mean Hope is concerned about Finn while Thomas is concerned about Steffy. I could be wrong but it makes more sense.

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B&Bfan1980, 3/10/2024, 7:30PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please


Looks likes she will be spilling the beans to Bill too who i still think is her father. i dont trust Poppy

Maybe they decided to change directions and circle back to Bill? But when the scenes aired, she was so vehement that he wasn't. There would be no reason to lie. Even in her conversation with Bill, it really didn't seem like it.
He could offer her the stability she craved. And was open to it. It's not even that scandalous. It definitely felt like she was hiding the identity of the father to protect someone. But there seemed to be a pause on that story, so maybe they went in another direction.

Even if he is not, if Poppy and Bill are really going to be a thing, then it would be nice if he became a father figure to her.

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B&Bfan1980, 3/10/2024, 7:32PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


I know I am tired of hearing Luna talk about it. Let’s get it over with

I'm honestly just tired of Luna period. This show will ruin a character in record time. I was looking forward to her when she was a mysterious intern but now...

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matisse, 3/10/2024, 7:35PM (68 days ago) @Sammy- one person liked this

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great

December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet

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dxdobson, 3/10/2024, 7:43PM (68 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet

Also if Taylor, Thomas and Steffy can still lie and say Brooke broke up their family then there is no time limits. LOL First of all, Brooke did not break up their family - Ridge left for good because of Taylor’s lies and he loved Brooke more or he loved her in a different way - however you see it.
You can bring back past good deeds and misdeeds on soaps forever! LOL

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 8:28PM (68 days ago) @matisse

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet

Soaps last forever. Do they ever mention dates on a soap? Nope. That is for a reason. So yes, it very well could be forever ago that any of those things happened. You never hear on a soap “that was only 14 months ago”. B&B has already moved forward and it is almost instantly in the past
They brought Xander back and it amounted to nothing. Emma is over and done and I seriously doubt it will be brought back up. Same with Caroline’s letter. BB decides to change maybe where it was going and moved in a different direction.
Soaps move on quickly, they decided to change Thomas and until we see different, he has changed. I am not going to go back to the past with every little thing I dislike that characters have done. That is not where the soaps are, I can’t change a past happenings I didn’t like and I am not going to be stuck in it. B&B says it done.

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 8:30PM (68 days ago) @dxdobson

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet

Also if Taylor, Thomas and Steffy can still lie and say Brooke broke up their family then there is no time limits. LOL First of all, Brooke did not break up their family - Ridge left for good because of Taylor’s lies and he loved Brooke more or he loved her in a different way - however you see it.
You can bring back past good deeds and misdeeds on soaps forever! LOL

Taylor isn’t even on. When do they even discuss all of Ridge’s marriages and how they happened? Never

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dxdobson, 3/10/2024, 8:39PM (68 days ago) @Sammy- 2 people liked this

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet

Also if Taylor, Thomas and Steffy can still lie and say Brooke broke up their family then there is no time limits. LOL First of all, Brooke did not break up their family - Ridge left for good because of Taylor’s lies and he loved Brooke more or he loved her in a different way - however you see it.
You can bring back past good deeds and misdeeds on soaps forever! LOL


Taylor isn’t even on. When do they even discuss all of Ridge’s marriages and how they happened? Never

My point is, on a soap opera there is never a long time ago for something to be forgotten.
They brought back Sheila after how many years?
Taylor hadn’t been on the show in years. We think she has gone in with her life and she comes back - still obsessed with Ridge AND his relationship with Brooke.
So no it has not been a long time ago that Thomas did anything bad.

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bnbviewer, 3/10/2024, 8:44PM (68 days ago) @Lizzy54

Who would want to compete for RJ's affection? Rather for Zende's, he is so good looking and if they don't ruin his character he could be a love interest for either mother or daughter...I sure saw some chemistry with Poppy.

True that! Zande is a much better catch for sure

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dxdobson, 3/10/2024, 8:46PM (68 days ago) @Sammy- one person liked this

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet


Soaps last forever. Do they ever mention dates on a soap? Nope. That is for a reason. So yes, it very well could be forever ago that any of those things happened. You never hear on a soap “that was only 14 months ago”. B&B has already moved forward and it is almost instantly in the past
They brought Xander back and it amounted to nothing. Emma is over and done and I seriously doubt it will be brought back up. Same with Caroline’s letter. BB decides to change maybe where it was going and moved in a different direction.
Soaps move on quickly, they decided to change Thomas and until we see different, he has changed. I am not going to go back to the past with every little thing I dislike that characters have done. That is not where the soaps are, I can’t change a past happenings I didn’t like and I am not going to be stuck in it. B&B says it done.

The problem with this is that WE the audience know of more things Thomas has done, and for many of us he never paid the price for any of them. He has been rewarded with the object of his obsession, after causing the break up of a marriage with a lie, again using his son as leverage against his obsession, and really being one of the reasons Sheila was able to do so much damage. If he had manned up about Sheila and the liquor - Steffy would not have gone to that alley and become a shooting victim.
So some may be moving on but many of us are not.

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 8:57PM (68 days ago) @Lizzy54

Looks like Hope might be wanting to accept this time...why else would she ask her mother to come around?

That still doesn't mean that Thomas has change. It also does not mean that Brooke is going to accept that Thomas has changed. Brooke has been right about Thomas before. Thomas has professed to have changed before and even showed some signs of changing, but it turned out to be a lie. The real test is how Thomas would react if Hope did not go through with the wedding. Right now, he has the woman that he was obsessed with. How will he react if he loses her? That is the real test.

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howeveryouknow, 3/10/2024, 8:59PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.

I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.

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BBDownunder, 3/10/2024, 9:06PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please


Looks likes she will be spilling the beans to Bill too who i still think is her father. i dont trust Poppy


I agree and i think Bill is her father too

Bill will be thrilled if that is the case

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BBDownunder, 3/10/2024, 9:08PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.

it would be good if its something unpredictable this time

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BBDownunder, 3/10/2024, 9:11PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great

well said.

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 9:13PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.


Take as long as you need. In soap time it seems those phone calls happened forever ago. Those phone calls didn’t ruin Brooke’s marriage for long. Brooke’s marriages, especially with Ridge, have always been ruined throughout the beginning and before Thomas. Nothing new
Hope never had to say yes to wearing that ring around her neck. Anytime she could take it off. Nothing will happen to her if she were to take it off. Hope even seems to hold that necklace as if it means something to her
Hope is coming off very happy with Thomas. He hasn’t locked her is a closet and has made no demands. If Hope wanted she could end it, doesn’t seem like she wants to end it since she goes to Thomas as much as he comes to her

During Thomas' adult years, he has done a lot to hurt Brooke and her family. Thomas and Steffy have tried to destroy Bridge throughout their teen and adult lives. I don't blame Brooke for not trusting either of them.

Hope seems happy with the relationship, but she still hasn't told Thomas that she loves him. There may be a reason for that. I believe the reason Hope started having feelings for Thomas is because she knows that Steffy will be no competition with Thomas the way she was with Liam. She knows that Thomas is not going to have sexual feelings for Steffy the way Liam did. I believe Hope is desperate for a one-woman man and Thomas seems to be the only guy around that fits the mold. Only thing is, even though Thomas wouldn't have those feeling for Steffy, it doesn't mean someone else couldn't come along that interest Thomas and he could still end up with a divided heart just like Liam.

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 9:27PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Way too much Luna and RJ. Is she going to continue telling mom how bad she feels? Tell RJ and move on please


Looks likes she will be spilling the beans to Bill too who i still think is her father. i dont trust Poppy


I agree and i think Bill is her father too


Bill will be thrilled if that is the case

I think so too

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Shimster @, 3/10/2024, 9:28PM (68 days ago) @matisse

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet

And to quote Thomas to Hope .... "I don't want any more secrets between us" Still seems as if he is keeping a few doesn't it?

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 9:33PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.


Take as long as you need. In soap time it seems those phone calls happened forever ago. Those phone calls didn’t ruin Brooke’s marriage for long. Brooke’s marriages, especially with Ridge, have always been ruined throughout the beginning and before Thomas. Nothing new
Hope never had to say yes to wearing that ring around her neck. Anytime she could take it off. Nothing will happen to her if she were to take it off. Hope even seems to hold that necklace as if it means something to her
Hope is coming off very happy with Thomas. He hasn’t locked her is a closet and has made no demands. If Hope wanted she could end it, doesn’t seem like she wants to end it since she goes to Thomas as much as he comes to her


During Thomas' adult years, he has done a lot to hurt Brooke and her family. Thomas and Steffy have tried to destroy Bridge throughout their teen and adult lives. I don't blame Brooke for not trusting either of them.

Hope seems happy with the relationship, but she still hasn't told Thomas that she loves him. There may be a reason for that. I believe the reason Hope started having feelings for Thomas is because she knows that Steffy will be no competition with Thomas the way she was with Liam. She knows that Thomas is not going to have sexual feelings for Steffy the way Liam did. I believe Hope is desperate for a one-woman man and Thomas seems to be the only guy around that fits the mold. Only thing is, even though Thomas wouldn't have those feeling for Steffy, it doesn't mean someone else couldn't come along that interest Thomas and he could still end up with a divided heart just like Liam.

Of course it doesn’t mean that but very doubtful. Thomas is a whole different man than waffler Liam. Thomas falls in love forever thing. Thomas, very very doubtful, would ever put Hope through the constant cheating Very doubtful Thomas will have a divided heart. Liam is a natural waffler and cheater. He can’t help. He is weak

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 9:36PM (68 days ago) @dxdobson

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet

Also if Taylor, Thomas and Steffy can still lie and say Brooke broke up their family then there is no time limits. LOL First of all, Brooke did not break up their family - Ridge left for good because of Taylor’s lies and he loved Brooke more or he loved her in a different way - however you see it.
You can bring back past good deeds and misdeeds on soaps forever! LOL


Taylor isn’t even on. When do they even discuss all of Ridge’s marriages and how they happened? Never

My point is, on a soap opera there is never a long time ago for something to be forgotten.
They brought back Sheila after how many years?
Taylor hadn’t been on the show in years. We think she has gone in with her life and she comes back - still obsessed with Ridge AND his relationship with Brooke.
So no it has not been a long time ago that Thomas did anything bad.

To each their own but Thomas truely loves Hope and has wanted her a long time. He has never come across as a waffler, loving two women like Liam. I don’t think Thomas will ever be the cheater like Liam

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 9:36PM (68 days ago) @howeveryouknow

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.

Finn acts like he is having a nervous breakdown. People believe and do a lot of things that don't make sense when they breakdown. Finn knows that Steffy attacked Sheila twice and wished her dead the very day that Sheila died. It wouldn't be a far reach for him to think that Sheila came by to talk to him, Steffy attacked her again and she and Steffy got in a fight and Steffy ended up stabbing Sheila especially if he is breaking down. It looks like they are going to split up for a while anyway. Finn could even start thinking that violence runs in Steffy's family. He knows that Taylor shot Bill and that Xander suspects that Thomas had something to do with Emma's death. Finn saw how quick Steffy was to shut that idea down. If Finn would learn that Steffy had shot Sheila and that she killed Aly, it could change his whole perspective of Steffy.

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 9:39PM (68 days ago) @dxdobson

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet


Soaps last forever. Do they ever mention dates on a soap? Nope. That is for a reason. So yes, it very well could be forever ago that any of those things happened. You never hear on a soap “that was only 14 months ago”. B&B has already moved forward and it is almost instantly in the past
They brought Xander back and it amounted to nothing. Emma is over and done and I seriously doubt it will be brought back up. Same with Caroline’s letter. BB decides to change maybe where it was going and moved in a different direction.
Soaps move on quickly, they decided to change Thomas and until we see different, he has changed. I am not going to go back to the past with every little thing I dislike that characters have done. That is not where the soaps are, I can’t change a past happenings I didn’t like and I am not going to be stuck in it. B&B says it done.


The problem with this is that WE the audience know of more things Thomas has done, and for many of us he never paid the price for any of them. He has been rewarded with the object of his obsession, after causing the break up of a marriage with a lie, again using his son as leverage against his obsession, and really being one of the reasons Sheila was able to do so much damage. If he had manned up about Sheila and the liquor - Steffy would not have gone to that alley and become a shooting victim.
So some may be moving on but many of us are not.

Than those who choose not move past what is showing can go for it. Everyone has their own opinion. The show is telling me Thomas has changed and loves one and only one woman as Liam never has been able to do

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B&Bfan1980, 3/10/2024, 9:40PM (68 days ago) @howeveryouknow

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.

I think the fact that Steffy instigated the two most recent confrontations could be used as a reason to doubt her story. But I don't actually think that is the story they are telling. If they were I think the stabbing would have been more open for debate. Perhaps it would have taken place at Sheila's home. Most people would agree regardless of their feelings about Steffy that she was justified in the stabbing.

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 9:41PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


well said.

Thank you

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 9:57PM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.


Take as long as you need. In soap time it seems those phone calls happened forever ago. Those phone calls didn’t ruin Brooke’s marriage for long. Brooke’s marriages, especially with Ridge, have always been ruined throughout the beginning and before Thomas. Nothing new
Hope never had to say yes to wearing that ring around her neck. Anytime she could take it off. Nothing will happen to her if she were to take it off. Hope even seems to hold that necklace as if it means something to her
Hope is coming off very happy with Thomas. He hasn’t locked her is a closet and has made no demands. If Hope wanted she could end it, doesn’t seem like she wants to end it since she goes to Thomas as much as he comes to her


During Thomas' adult years, he has done a lot to hurt Brooke and her family. Thomas and Steffy have tried to destroy Bridge throughout their teen and adult lives. I don't blame Brooke for not trusting either of them.

Hope seems happy with the relationship, but she still hasn't told Thomas that she loves him. There may be a reason for that. I believe the reason Hope started having feelings for Thomas is because she knows that Steffy will be no competition with Thomas the way she was with Liam. She knows that Thomas is not going to have sexual feelings for Steffy the way Liam did. I believe Hope is desperate for a one-woman man and Thomas seems to be the only guy around that fits the mold. Only thing is, even though Thomas wouldn't have those feeling for Steffy, it doesn't mean someone else couldn't come along that interest Thomas and he could still end up with a divided heart just like Liam.


Of course it doesn’t mean that but very doubtful. Thomas is a whole different man than waffler Liam. Thomas falls in love forever thing. Thomas, very very doubtful, would ever put Hope through the constant cheating Very doubtful Thomas will have a divided heart. Liam is a natural waffler and cheater. He can’t help. He is weak

I agree that Thomas is not a waffler like Liam, but I think Hope is putting too much into the one-woman man thing. She is thinking only of Steffy and not other woman that Thomas could potentially fall for. I believe that Hope is more in love with the idea of having a man that will not be interested in Steffy than she is in love with Thomas. I think Liam has damaged Hope with all of his waffling.

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dxdobson, 3/10/2024, 10:03PM (68 days ago) @Joy- one person liked this

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.


Take as long as you need. In soap time it seems those phone calls happened forever ago. Those phone calls didn’t ruin Brooke’s marriage for long. Brooke’s marriages, especially with Ridge, have always been ruined throughout the beginning and before Thomas. Nothing new
Hope never had to say yes to wearing that ring around her neck. Anytime she could take it off. Nothing will happen to her if she were to take it off. Hope even seems to hold that necklace as if it means something to her
Hope is coming off very happy with Thomas. He hasn’t locked her is a closet and has made no demands. If Hope wanted she could end it, doesn’t seem like she wants to end it since she goes to Thomas as much as he comes to her


During Thomas' adult years, he has done a lot to hurt Brooke and her family. Thomas and Steffy have tried to destroy Bridge throughout their teen and adult lives. I don't blame Brooke for not trusting either of them.

Hope seems happy with the relationship, but she still hasn't told Thomas that she loves him. There may be a reason for that. I believe the reason Hope started having feelings for Thomas is because she knows that Steffy will be no competition with Thomas the way she was with Liam. She knows that Thomas is not going to have sexual feelings for Steffy the way Liam did. I believe Hope is desperate for a one-woman man and Thomas seems to be the only guy around that fits the mold. Only thing is, even though Thomas wouldn't have those feeling for Steffy, it doesn't mean someone else couldn't come along that interest Thomas and he could still end up with a divided heart just like Liam.

I used to really root for Hope and defend her. I can’t anymore. Wyatt was a one woman man!
And Hope knew that Liam had the hots for Steffy.
She also knew he had deep feelings for her the first time they married. Liam is not a dog. Steffy and Hope were both stupid.
Hope would rather have a habitual liar, child abuser (her words) and what she doesn’t know about - person who used drugs to get people to be sexual. Of course she doesn’t know that part but she does know he left Emma to die.

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Sammy @, 3/10/2024, 10:06PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


It has not been that long since the CPS call, which ruined Brooke's marriage. A couple of psychiatrist visits and he is supposed to be all cured. It is going to take longer for me to believe that he has really changed. He has been pushing Hope to say yes to his marriage proposal, even though Hope has been honest with him and told him that she was not ready to take the relationship to that level. He even insisted that she wear the engagement ring around her neck. Hope has not once told him that she loves him, and has turned down his marriage proposal, but in his delusional mind, he thinks that she is ready to marry him. I thought that Thomas may have been changing until the marriage proposal. To me, after that, he seems to be pushy like he used to be.


Take as long as you need. In soap time it seems those phone calls happened forever ago. Those phone calls didn’t ruin Brooke’s marriage for long. Brooke’s marriages, especially with Ridge, have always been ruined throughout the beginning and before Thomas. Nothing new
Hope never had to say yes to wearing that ring around her neck. Anytime she could take it off. Nothing will happen to her if she were to take it off. Hope even seems to hold that necklace as if it means something to her
Hope is coming off very happy with Thomas. He hasn’t locked her is a closet and has made no demands. If Hope wanted she could end it, doesn’t seem like she wants to end it since she goes to Thomas as much as he comes to her


During Thomas' adult years, he has done a lot to hurt Brooke and her family. Thomas and Steffy have tried to destroy Bridge throughout their teen and adult lives. I don't blame Brooke for not trusting either of them.

Hope seems happy with the relationship, but she still hasn't told Thomas that she loves him. There may be a reason for that. I believe the reason Hope started having feelings for Thomas is because she knows that Steffy will be no competition with Thomas the way she was with Liam. She knows that Thomas is not going to have sexual feelings for Steffy the way Liam did. I believe Hope is desperate for a one-woman man and Thomas seems to be the only guy around that fits the mold. Only thing is, even though Thomas wouldn't have those feeling for Steffy, it doesn't mean someone else couldn't come along that interest Thomas and he could still end up with a divided heart just like Liam.


Of course it doesn’t mean that but very doubtful. Thomas is a whole different man than waffler Liam. Thomas falls in love forever thing. Thomas, very very doubtful, would ever put Hope through the constant cheating Very doubtful Thomas will have a divided heart. Liam is a natural waffler and cheater. He can’t help. He is weak


I agree that Thomas is not a waffler like Liam, but I think Hope is putting too much into the one-woman man thing. She is thinking only of Steffy and not other woman that Thomas could potentially fall for. I believe that Hope is more in love with the idea of having a man that will not be interested in Steffy than she is in love with Thomas. I think Liam has damaged Hope with all of his waffling.

Thomas has never come across as a waffler. I would be surprised. Hope watched her mother with Ridge all these years and he is the king of the wafflers.
I would want something different

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GracieGirl, 3/10/2024, 10:25PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Even getting Brooke to give into Thope will probably not convince the anti-Thopers. I think they should stop trying so hard. IMHO, Hope and Thomas don’t have what it takes to replace Brooke and Ridge and never will.

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howeveryouknow, 3/10/2024, 10:33PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


Finn acts like he is having a nervous breakdown. People believe and do a lot of things that don't make sense when they breakdown. Finn knows that Steffy attacked Sheila twice and wished her dead the very day that Sheila died. It wouldn't be a far reach for him to think that Sheila came by to talk to him, Steffy attacked her again and she and Steffy got in a fight and Steffy ended up stabbing Sheila especially if he is breaking down. It looks like they are going to split up for a while anyway. Finn could even start thinking that violence runs in Steffy's family. He knows that Taylor shot Bill and that Xander suspects that Thomas had something to do with Emma's death. Finn saw how quick Steffy was to shut that idea down. If Finn would learn that Steffy had shot Sheila and that she killed Aly, it could change his whole perspective of Steffy.

Finn is for sure having a breakdown, but in his breakdown he still knows his wife isn't a cold blooded killer and recognizes the horrific human being that Sheila is, who would broke into his home and threatened Steffy. The story is already not serving Finn favorable, I am glad they are at the very minimum having Finn know it was self-defense, and defending Steffy. And considering the whole thing went down at the cliffhouse, the case of self-defense has merit, especially that the only way Sheila would be in the cliffhouse would be with Sheila intruding in the home, no way, Steffy would invite Sheila inside their home.

Steffy and Finn may split, but yeah I vehemently disagree that it should be over Finn thinking his wife is a murderer, especially considering that the target Sheila was a psychopath herself who did attempt to murder Steffy, him, and his adoptive mother Li. This story is not going that direction anyways. There is no case where Finn should stand by Sheila AGAINST his own wife considering the things Sheila has done to them. Aly's death was self-defense as well, and the Sheila shooting, was also, because she was told Sheila had a gun.

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 10:39PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


it would be good if its something unpredictable this time

I wish they would make Thomas as actually changed, but they haven't convinced me quite yet. For me to believe it, he would need to come forward and make amends for the hurt that he has caused. As with the Emma situation, Thomas was only honest to Hope (told his version) when he knew that she would likely find out about it. With Xander came to town, Thomas should have apologized to Xander for threatening him. He should have apologized for chasing Emma. He should apologize to Brooke for not telling her about Sheila sending her real Champaigne instead of the non-alcohol version. He should apologize to Brooke for not letting her talk to Ridge when she called. As with the rest of the Forresters, it is all just swept under the rug. If Hope would happen to not go through with the wedding, then the way Thomas reacts will be the real test of whether he has really changed or not.

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howeveryouknow, 3/10/2024, 10:43PM (68 days ago) @B&Bfan1980

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


I think the fact that Steffy instigated the two most recent confrontations could be used as a reason to doubt her story. But I don't actually think that is the story they are telling. If they were I think the stabbing would have been more open for debate. Perhaps it would have taken place at Sheila's home. Most people would agree regardless of their feelings about Steffy that she was justified in the stabbing.

I understand, but Finn seemed to support the first punch and even found it amusing, describing it as a "badass" move by Steffy. During the second confrontation, while he thought Steffy shouldn't have provoked Sheila, he still defended her, insisting that Steffy only punched Sheila because she was pushed first. So, it wouldn't make much sense for him to suddenly believe Steffy is a vicious killer. Personally, I'm relieved they didn't take that route.

Overall, I believe this storyline is poorly written and contrived. I strongly feel that it would have been more effective if Finn had been the one to stab Sheila. His exaggerated reaction to her death, his sudden distance from Steffy (Finn would have NEVER left Steffy alone to deal with police and let her spend a night alone after she went through something traumatic; this was very much unlike him), and his nightmares/hallucinations about Sheila would have made more sense if he had committed the act. Having Steffy be the one to do it feels like a misstep; if they intended for her to be the perpetrator, she should have been the one experiencing the traumatic aftermath, not Finn

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 10:47PM (68 days ago) @howeveryouknow

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


Finn acts like he is having a nervous breakdown. People believe and do a lot of things that don't make sense when they breakdown. Finn knows that Steffy attacked Sheila twice and wished her dead the very day that Sheila died. It wouldn't be a far reach for him to think that Sheila came by to talk to him, Steffy attacked her again and she and Steffy got in a fight and Steffy ended up stabbing Sheila especially if he is breaking down. It looks like they are going to split up for a while anyway. Finn could even start thinking that violence runs in Steffy's family. He knows that Taylor shot Bill and that Xander suspects that Thomas had something to do with Emma's death. Finn saw how quick Steffy was to shut that idea down. If Finn would learn that Steffy had shot Sheila and that she killed Aly, it could change his whole perspective of Steffy.


Finn is for sure having a breakdown, but in his breakdown he still knows his wife isn't a cold blooded killer and recognizes the horrific human being that Sheila is, who would broke into his home and threatened Steffy. The story is already not serving Finn favorable, I am glad they are at the very minimum having Finn know it was self-defense, and defending Steffy. And considering the whole thing went down at the cliffhouse, the case of self-defense has merit, especially that the only way Sheila would be in the cliffhouse would be with Sheila intruding in the home, no way, Steffy would invite Sheila inside their home.

Steffy and Finn may split, but yeah I vehemently disagree that it should be over Finn thinking his wife is a murderer, especially considering that the target Sheila was a psychopath herself who did attempt to murder Steffy, him, and his adoptive mother Li. This story is not going that direction anyways. There is no case where Finn should stand by Sheila AGAINST his own wife considering the things Sheila has done to them. Aly's death was self-defense as well, and the Sheila shooting, was also, because she was told Sheila had a gun.

The version I told was only the way I would like for it to go, not the way it is going. The Forresters never pay for any of their deeds anyway. Steffy has been allowed to attack Sheila twice without any consequences. I could see where Finn could think that Steffy murdered Sheila if he is having a breakdown. There was no forced entry and Sheila was unarmed. In most cases, where there is no forced entry, the police believe that the other person was allowed in. Without a murder weapon, most police would question whether a person would go to someone's house to kill them and not bring a murder weapon. During a breakdown, it would be very possible for these thoughts to go through someone's head.

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hopeyougogirl, 3/10/2024, 10:49PM (68 days ago) @Shimster- one person liked this

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet


And to quote Thomas to Hope .... "I don't want any more secrets between us" Still seems as if he is keeping a few doesn't it?

Because he IS a liar..Hope is foolish for trusting his version about Emma's death. Also, he LIED to Steffy claiming even if a married Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything..he sure did plenty in Rome going along with Hope's cheating. If he truly has changed, he would've kept his promise to Steffy and stopped Hope, but he didn't!

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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hopeyougogirl, 3/10/2024, 10:54PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Hope (Annika Noelle) is concerned about Deacon’s (Sean Kanan) mental health.

Thomas (Matthew Atkinson) is concerned about Steffy’s (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) mental health.

Luna (Lisa Yamada) and Bill (Don Diamont) have a bonding conversation.

Steffy and Finn (Tanner Novlan) do everything to get past Sheila’s (Kimberlin Brown) death.

Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) tells Thomas to be bold in his relationship with Hope.

Hope and Thomas reminisce about Rome.

Luna continues to be weighed down with guilt about her night with Zende (Delon de Metz).

Finn experiences visions about Sheila’s death while trying to reconnect with Steffy.

Hope tries to make Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) see the light about Thomas.

Bill offers to support Luna when she can’t connect with Poppy (Romy Park).
Ridge advocates for Thomas with Brooke.

Finn loses his cool when he can’t get dead Sheila out of his head.

Thomas designs Hope a gown.

Enough of this dull, creepy Thope nonsense..they're so forced and awkward.:puke :puke And this fake saint Thomas is just so boring with no personality whatsoever.:sleep :sleep NOT working for me at all.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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howeveryouknow, 3/10/2024, 11:04PM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


Finn acts like he is having a nervous breakdown. People believe and do a lot of things that don't make sense when they breakdown. Finn knows that Steffy attacked Sheila twice and wished her dead the very day that Sheila died. It wouldn't be a far reach for him to think that Sheila came by to talk to him, Steffy attacked her again and she and Steffy got in a fight and Steffy ended up stabbing Sheila especially if he is breaking down. It looks like they are going to split up for a while anyway. Finn could even start thinking that violence runs in Steffy's family. He knows that Taylor shot Bill and that Xander suspects that Thomas had something to do with Emma's death. Finn saw how quick Steffy was to shut that idea down. If Finn would learn that Steffy had shot Sheila and that she killed Aly, it could change his whole perspective of Steffy.


Finn is for sure having a breakdown, but in his breakdown he still knows his wife isn't a cold blooded killer and recognizes the horrific human being that Sheila is, who would broke into his home and threatened Steffy. The story is already not serving Finn favorable, I am glad they are at the very minimum having Finn know it was self-defense, and defending Steffy. And considering the whole thing went down at the cliffhouse, the case of self-defense has merit, especially that the only way Sheila would be in the cliffhouse would be with Sheila intruding in the home, no way, Steffy would invite Sheila inside their home.

Steffy and Finn may split, but yeah I vehemently disagree that it should be over Finn thinking his wife is a murderer, especially considering that the target Sheila was a psychopath herself who did attempt to murder Steffy, him, and his adoptive mother Li. This story is not going that direction anyways. There is no case where Finn should stand by Sheila AGAINST his own wife considering the things Sheila has done to them. Aly's death was self-defense as well, and the Sheila shooting, was also, because she was told Sheila had a gun.


The version I told was only the way I would like for it to go, not the way it is going. The Forresters never pay for any of their deeds anyway. Steffy has been allowed to attack Sheila twice without any consequences. I could see where Finn could think that Steffy murdered Sheila if he is having a breakdown. There was no forced entry and Sheila was unarmed. In most cases, where there is no forced entry, the police believe that the other person was allowed in. Without a murder weapon, most police would question whether a person would go to someone's house to kill them and not bring a murder weapon. During a breakdown, it would be very possible for these thoughts to go through someone's head.

Well, I am glad they didn't write that way cause then Finn would be set up looking like a complete fool. We know it was self-defense; and we saw it go down as Steffy defending herself. I am glad they had Finn believe Steffy was protecting herself from the get-go. As a Finn fan, I am frustrated when they write him dumb over Sheila. Sheila hasn't been beneficial to Finn's character as they write him as too trusting/naive when it comes to her; when he should always have his guard up when it comes to her. I hate that he lets himself this easily manipulated when it comes to her.

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 11:30PM (68 days ago) @howeveryouknow

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


Finn acts like he is having a nervous breakdown. People believe and do a lot of things that don't make sense when they breakdown. Finn knows that Steffy attacked Sheila twice and wished her dead the very day that Sheila died. It wouldn't be a far reach for him to think that Sheila came by to talk to him, Steffy attacked her again and she and Steffy got in a fight and Steffy ended up stabbing Sheila especially if he is breaking down. It looks like they are going to split up for a while anyway. Finn could even start thinking that violence runs in Steffy's family. He knows that Taylor shot Bill and that Xander suspects that Thomas had something to do with Emma's death. Finn saw how quick Steffy was to shut that idea down. If Finn would learn that Steffy had shot Sheila and that she killed Aly, it could change his whole perspective of Steffy.


Finn is for sure having a breakdown, but in his breakdown he still knows his wife isn't a cold blooded killer and recognizes the horrific human being that Sheila is, who would broke into his home and threatened Steffy. The story is already not serving Finn favorable, I am glad they are at the very minimum having Finn know it was self-defense, and defending Steffy. And considering the whole thing went down at the cliffhouse, the case of self-defense has merit, especially that the only way Sheila would be in the cliffhouse would be with Sheila intruding in the home, no way, Steffy would invite Sheila inside their home.

Steffy and Finn may split, but yeah I vehemently disagree that it should be over Finn thinking his wife is a murderer, especially considering that the target Sheila was a psychopath herself who did attempt to murder Steffy, him, and his adoptive mother Li. This story is not going that direction anyways. There is no case where Finn should stand by Sheila AGAINST his own wife considering the things Sheila has done to them. Aly's death was self-defense as well, and the Sheila shooting, was also, because she was told Sheila had a gun.


The version I told was only the way I would like for it to go, not the way it is going. The Forresters never pay for any of their deeds anyway. Steffy has been allowed to attack Sheila twice without any consequences. I could see where Finn could think that Steffy murdered Sheila if he is having a breakdown. There was no forced entry and Sheila was unarmed. In most cases, where there is no forced entry, the police believe that the other person was allowed in. Without a murder weapon, most police would question whether a person would go to someone's house to kill them and not bring a murder weapon. During a breakdown, it would be very possible for these thoughts to go through someone's head.


Well, I am glad they didn't write that way cause then Finn would be set up looking like a complete fool. We know it was self-defense; and we saw it go down as Steffy defending herself. I am glad they had Finn believe Steffy was protecting herself from the get-go. As a Finn fan, I am frustrated when they write him dumb over Sheila. Sheila hasn't been beneficial to Finn's character as they write him as too trusting/naive when it comes to her; when he should always have his guard up when it comes to her. I hate that he lets himself this easily manipulated when it comes to her.

I am a Finn fan too, but what makes him look bad to me is being Steffy's purse holder, doing exactly what Steffy says and being too weak to disagree with her. Instead of praising Steffy when she attacked Sheila unprovoked the first time, he should have told her that it was wrong and to stay away from Sheila and leave her alone. That's what a strong and smart person would have done. Finn should have called Steffy out for attacking Sheila the second time and wishing her dead. It wouldn't matter if Finn even hated Sheila, it was still wrong for Steffy to do what she did. If Finn thought that Xander was telling the truth about Thomas, instead of backing down, he should have told Steffy that he was going to listen to Xander and hear him out and if Thomas was innocent, then they would have nothing to worry about. That is what a strong man would do instead of just dropping it because Steffy said so. Before the shooting, Finn couldn't even express his feeling for Sheila without Steffy yelling at him. I like Finn, but I think he has been written as weak when it comes to Steffy. As other posters have pointed out, Steffy acts more like Finn's Mommywife.

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matisse, 3/10/2024, 11:35PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

Hope (Annika Noelle) is concerned about Deacon’s (Sean Kanan) mental health.

Thomas (Matthew Atkinson) is concerned about Steffy’s (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) mental health.

Luna (Lisa Yamada) and Bill (Don Diamont) have a bonding conversation.

Steffy and Finn (Tanner Novlan) do everything to get past Sheila’s (Kimberlin Brown) death.

Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) tells Thomas to be bold in his relationship with Hope.

Hope and Thomas reminisce about Rome.

Luna continues to be weighed down with guilt about her night with Zende (Delon de Metz).

Finn experiences visions about Sheila’s death while trying to reconnect with Steffy.

Hope tries to make Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) see the light about Thomas.

Bill offers to support Luna when she can’t connect with Poppy (Romy Park).
Ridge advocates for Thomas with Brooke.

Finn loses his cool when he can’t get dead Sheila out of his head.

Thomas designs Hope a gown.

Thank you again for the spoilers you bring over to us. ;-)

Since Deacon is blaming Steffy, and Steffy is saying she had no choice, will Hope be on Deacon's side, and Tom on Steffy's and there might be some conflict?

So glad that we will be getting Bill and Luna scenes. I like DD and have missed seeing him on the show.

Ridge has never ever been right about anything when it comes to other people's relationships or even understanding people, so he should do his son a solid, and stay out of it.

I wonder if when they go down memory lane Hope will remember what she now knows, that Liam was watching her betray him with the monster that wanted their child dead to them forever? Just curious. I mean, if this were a person from real life, they would not find this a good memory of when they got caught lying and cheating on their spouse, by the spouse. JMO

Hope is like Ridge, a person that has very little talent for reading people's true nature. She should listen to her mother, or stop trying to get her mother to give her a different answer to a question Hope has already asked her over and over and over.

Again, Ridge should just step off and quit trying to push one of the victims of his criminal son to let it all go. Why should Brooke let it go? I think Ridge should be on Brooke's side and not his adult mentally unstable criminal son's, who hurt Brooke and her family many times. If Ridge wants to walk into that quagmire of Tom and his conflicting mental issues, that is on him, but he should not be trying to drag Brooke along with him. She has no interest in letting Tom close to her again in any way. Good for Brooke for having keen self preservation, something neither Ridge or Hope possess. I hope she is not a pushover and allows Ridge to drag her into that oncoming mess of Tom and his next spate of mental issues.

Sounds like Finn is not going to want to get naked with his wife, since his mother will be in that bed with them. LOL

I am SMH wondering what kind of Disney fairy Princess wedding dress Tom is going to spring on, too-old-to-wear-a-fairy-princess dress Hope, as his "final" proposal to her?

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Joy, 3/10/2024, 11:46PM (68 days ago) @matisse

Hope (Annika Noelle) is concerned about Deacon’s (Sean Kanan) mental health.

Thomas (Matthew Atkinson) is concerned about Steffy’s (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) mental health.

Luna (Lisa Yamada) and Bill (Don Diamont) have a bonding conversation.

Steffy and Finn (Tanner Novlan) do everything to get past Sheila’s (Kimberlin Brown) death.

Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) tells Thomas to be bold in his relationship with Hope.

Hope and Thomas reminisce about Rome.

Luna continues to be weighed down with guilt about her night with Zende (Delon de Metz).

Finn experiences visions about Sheila’s death while trying to reconnect with Steffy.

Hope tries to make Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) see the light about Thomas.

Bill offers to support Luna when she can’t connect with Poppy (Romy Park).
Ridge advocates for Thomas with Brooke.

Finn loses his cool when he can’t get dead Sheila out of his head.

Thomas designs Hope a gown.


Thank you again for the spoilers you bring over to us. ;-)

Since Deacon is blaming Steffy, and Steffy is saying she had no choice, will Hope be on Deacon's side, and Tom on Steffy's and there might be some conflict?

So glad that we will be getting Bill and Luna scenes. I like DD and have missed seeing him on the show.

Ridge has never ever been right about anything when it comes to other people's relationships or even understanding people, so he should do his son a solid, and stay out of it.

I wonder if when they go down memory lane Hope will remember what she now knows, that Liam was watching her betray him with the monster that wanted their child dead to them forever? Just curious. I mean, if this were a person from real life, they would not find this a good memory of when they got caught lying and cheating on their spouse, by the spouse. JMO

Hope is like Ridge, a person that has very little talent for reading people's true nature. She should listen to her mother, or stop trying to get her mother to give her a different answer to a question Hope has already asked her over and over and over.

Again, Ridge should just step off and quit trying to push one of the victims of his criminal son to let it all go. Why should Brooke let it go? I think Ridge should be on Brooke's side and not his adult mentally unstable criminal son's, who hurt Brooke and her family many times. If Ridge wants to walk into that quagmire of Tom and his conflicting mental issues, that is on him, but he should not be trying to drag Brooke along with him. She has no interest in letting Tom close to her again in any way. Good for Brooke for having keen self preservation, something neither Ridge or Hope possess. I hope she is not a pushover and allows Ridge to drag her into that oncoming mess of Tom and his next spate of mental issues.

Sounds like Finn is not going to want to get naked with his wife, since his mother will be in that bed with them. LOL

I am SMH wondering what kind of Disney fairy Princess wedding dress Tom is going to spring on, too-old-to-wear-a-fairy-princess dress Hope, as his "final" proposal to her?

:lol Finn will look in Steffy's eyes and her face will turn into Sheila's.

Hope may end up wearing a Disney fairy Princess dress, but I am afraid she will be marrying a frog instead of a prince. :lol

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matisse, 3/10/2024, 11:51PM (68 days ago) @dxdobson- one person liked this
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Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet


Soaps last forever. Do they ever mention dates on a soap? Nope. That is for a reason. So yes, it very well could be forever ago that any of those things happened. You never hear on a soap “that was only 14 months ago”. B&B has already moved forward and it is almost instantly in the past
They brought Xander back and it amounted to nothing. Emma is over and done and I seriously doubt it will be brought back up. Same with Caroline’s letter. BB decides to change maybe where it was going and moved in a different direction.
Soaps move on quickly, they decided to change Thomas and until we see different, he has changed. I am not going to go back to the past with every little thing I dislike that characters have done. That is not where the soaps are, I can’t change a past happenings I didn’t like and I am not going to be stuck in it. B&B says it done.


The problem with this is that WE the audience know of more things Thomas has done, and for many of us he never paid the price for any of them. He has been rewarded with the object of his obsession, after causing the break up of a marriage with a lie, again using his son as leverage against his obsession, and really being one of the reasons Sheila was able to do so much damage. If he had manned up about Sheila and the liquor - Steffy would not have gone to that alley and become a shooting victim.
So some may be moving on but many of us are not.

Here is why I see Tom and Shelia and Taylor as being no different when it comes to their mental issues and criminal behavior. Tom attempted to MURDER Rick twice. He planned for Rick to burn to death, he planned for Rick to be blown up. Just because his plans failed, does not make him any less than an attempted murderer. Sheila had the gun in her purse, so she had intent for something, she did not plan to shoot Finn, but she shot him, she did have intent to shoot Steffy and did it, and she did leave them to die. They did not die, therefore Sheila is an attempted MURDERER. Taylor went to Bill's house, she cut the power, and trespassed into the home, just like Sheila last week. She picked up the gun on the table with intent, and shot Bill in the back, and left him to bleed out and die, which he did not. Taylor is an attempted MURDERER. Tom, nor Taylor are any better or any worse than Sheila. This is why if Hope was so dead set against her dad and Sheila being together because "what Sheila did" and she was not "safe" to be around the kids....then she is a hypocrite and a self serving loser for not feeling the exact same way about Tom. Tom who attempted to murder her brother, and harmed both her children. By Hope's own logic and blathering at Deacon, she has to admit, Tom is not acceptable to be around her daughter and he should not be allowed into her life at all. Hope also did not want Taylor around Beth because Taylor shot Bill and was an attempted MURDERER. There is no logic whatsoever to her now thinking Tom is acceptable to be around Beth...other than she likes to get laid by him....and that is about it....and that makes her look like a weak woman whose values can be bought off with sex. JMO

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Tiqui1999 @, 3/10/2024, 11:51PM (68 days ago) @BBDownunder

I wonder if Thomas will look back fondly on how Hope told him that what happens in Rome stays in Rome!

Or do the writers really think enough time has passed that they can't do rewrites already?

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howeveryouknow, 3/11/2024, 12:08AM (68 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


Finn acts like he is having a nervous breakdown. People believe and do a lot of things that don't make sense when they breakdown. Finn knows that Steffy attacked Sheila twice and wished her dead the very day that Sheila died. It wouldn't be a far reach for him to think that Sheila came by to talk to him, Steffy attacked her again and she and Steffy got in a fight and Steffy ended up stabbing Sheila especially if he is breaking down. It looks like they are going to split up for a while anyway. Finn could even start thinking that violence runs in Steffy's family. He knows that Taylor shot Bill and that Xander suspects that Thomas had something to do with Emma's death. Finn saw how quick Steffy was to shut that idea down. If Finn would learn that Steffy had shot Sheila and that she killed Aly, it could change his whole perspective of Steffy.


Finn is for sure having a breakdown, but in his breakdown he still knows his wife isn't a cold blooded killer and recognizes the horrific human being that Sheila is, who would broke into his home and threatened Steffy. The story is already not serving Finn favorable, I am glad they are at the very minimum having Finn know it was self-defense, and defending Steffy. And considering the whole thing went down at the cliffhouse, the case of self-defense has merit, especially that the only way Sheila would be in the cliffhouse would be with Sheila intruding in the home, no way, Steffy would invite Sheila inside their home.

Steffy and Finn may split, but yeah I vehemently disagree that it should be over Finn thinking his wife is a murderer, especially considering that the target Sheila was a psychopath herself who did attempt to murder Steffy, him, and his adoptive mother Li. This story is not going that direction anyways. There is no case where Finn should stand by Sheila AGAINST his own wife considering the things Sheila has done to them. Aly's death was self-defense as well, and the Sheila shooting, was also, because she was told Sheila had a gun.


The version I told was only the way I would like for it to go, not the way it is going. The Forresters never pay for any of their deeds anyway. Steffy has been allowed to attack Sheila twice without any consequences. I could see where Finn could think that Steffy murdered Sheila if he is having a breakdown. There was no forced entry and Sheila was unarmed. In most cases, where there is no forced entry, the police believe that the other person was allowed in. Without a murder weapon, most police would question whether a person would go to someone's house to kill them and not bring a murder weapon. During a breakdown, it would be very possible for these thoughts to go through someone's head.


Well, I am glad they didn't write that way cause then Finn would be set up looking like a complete fool. We know it was self-defense; and we saw it go down as Steffy defending herself. I am glad they had Finn believe Steffy was protecting herself from the get-go. As a Finn fan, I am frustrated when they write him dumb over Sheila. Sheila hasn't been beneficial to Finn's character as they write him as too trusting/naive when it comes to her; when he should always have his guard up when it comes to her. I hate that he lets himself this easily manipulated when it comes to her.


I am a Finn fan too, but what makes him look bad to me is being Steffy's purse holder, doing exactly what Steffy says and being too weak to disagree with her. Instead of praising Steffy when she attacked Sheila unprovoked the first time, he should have told her that it was wrong and to stay away from Sheila and leave her alone. That's what a strong and smart person would have done. Finn should have called Steffy out for attacking Sheila the second time and wishing her dead. It wouldn't matter if Finn even hated Sheila, it was still wrong for Steffy to do what she did. If Finn thought that Xander was telling the truth about Thomas, instead of backing down, he should have told Steffy that he was going to listen to Xander and hear him out and if Thomas was innocent, then they would have nothing to worry about. That is what a strong man would do instead of just dropping it because Steffy said so. Before the shooting, Finn couldn't even express his feeling for Sheila without Steffy yelling at him. I like Finn, but I think he has been written as weak when it comes to Steffy. As other posters have pointed out, Steffy acts more like Finn's Mommywife.

I do not disagree that I do believe Finn should stand up for himself more, however, I do not agree with the examples you cited.

1) Considering Sheila shot them, and left them to die, him supporting Steffy punching the psycho who left them to die is fine by me. Sheila deserved that and more. I will say he did need to express to Steffy more his wish for Steffy not to continue to provoke the bear; that was a fair assessement, but when it comes to Sheila, Finn and Steffy should be on the same side. It is just a no brainer; since Sheila has abused Finn.

2) While I'm happy they showcased how Finn could have different opinion than Steffy; I am glad Finn dropped this Xander buisness as 1) it was absoloutely none of his buisness 2) Thope has nothing do with him, he shouldn't care whatsoever what they do and what a random stranger said 3) Finn wasn't there during the Beth saga, Finn should not have been nowhere in the story in the first place.

3) Finn has conflicted emotions with Sheila; but I do think, he needs to get a therapist to work those out and he also has to come to the realization that Sheila being in his life would be detrimental in the long-run; everything Sheila touches, she destroys (there is a reason none of Sheila's kids want anything to do with her); as while I absolutely think Steffy needs to give him a safe space to express those feelings, Steffy is also justified in her hatred when it comes to Sheila.

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dxdobson, 3/11/2024, 12:13AM (68 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Right about Thomas in what way? Thomas has done nothing wrong in forever. Unless something brand new happens, which would be odd, Thomas is doing great


December 2022. Only 14 months ago. Not exactly forever. And, he still is hiding things from Hope and Brooke. He was in cahoots with Sheila about the Champagne. He is also hiding that he forged a very important letter from Caroline. He is also hiding that he got out of his car to watch Emma die and left her there knowing she was alive when he got out, but did not bother to call for help for her knowing she was not dead yet


Soaps last forever. Do they ever mention dates on a soap? Nope. That is for a reason. So yes, it very well could be forever ago that any of those things happened. You never hear on a soap “that was only 14 months ago”. B&B has already moved forward and it is almost instantly in the past
They brought Xander back and it amounted to nothing. Emma is over and done and I seriously doubt it will be brought back up. Same with Caroline’s letter. BB decides to change maybe where it was going and moved in a different direction.
Soaps move on quickly, they decided to change Thomas and until we see different, he has changed. I am not going to go back to the past with every little thing I dislike that characters have done. That is not where the soaps are, I can’t change a past happenings I didn’t like and I am not going to be stuck in it. B&B says it done.


The problem with this is that WE the audience know of more things Thomas has done, and for many of us he never paid the price for any of them. He has been rewarded with the object of his obsession, after causing the break up of a marriage with a lie, again using his son as leverage against his obsession, and really being one of the reasons Sheila was able to do so much damage. If he had manned up about Sheila and the liquor - Steffy would not have gone to that alley and become a shooting victim.
So some may be moving on but many of us are not.


Than those who choose not move past what is showing can go for it. Everyone has their own opinion. The show is telling me Thomas has changed and loves one and only one woman as Liam never has been able to do

And at this time Thomas may only love one woman but he also had the case if loving more than one woman.
Sally and Caroline. Only difference - it was not shown on camera.

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dxdobson, 3/11/2024, 12:19AM (68 days ago) @Tiqui1999

I wonder if Thomas will look back fondly on how Hope told him that what happens in Rome stays in Rome!

Or do the writers really think enough time has passed that they can't do rewrites already?

Thank you for the Spoilers OP!!
That line is forgotten!
Only the endless sex means anything now!
No family dinners with Beth and Doug?
Hmm
Also is it Deacon or Finn who Hope supports?

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B&Bfan1980, 3/11/2024, 1:11AM (68 days ago) @howeveryouknow

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


I think the fact that Steffy instigated the two most recent confrontations could be used as a reason to doubt her story. But I don't actually think that is the story they are telling. If they were I think the stabbing would have been more open for debate. Perhaps it would have taken place at Sheila's home. Most people would agree regardless of their feelings about Steffy that she was justified in the stabbing.


I understand, but Finn seemed to support the first punch and even found it amusing, describing it as a "badass" move by Steffy. During the second confrontation, while he thought Steffy shouldn't have provoked Sheila, he still defended her, insisting that Steffy only punched Sheila because she was pushed first. So, it wouldn't make much sense for him to suddenly believe Steffy is a vicious killer. Personally, I'm relieved they didn't take that route.

Overall, I believe this storyline is poorly written and contrived. I strongly feel that it would have been more effective if Finn had been the one to stab Sheila. His exaggerated reaction to her death, his sudden distance from Steffy (Finn would have NEVER left Steffy alone to deal with police and let her spend a night alone after she went through something traumatic; this was very much unlike him), and his nightmares/hallucinations about Sheila would have made more sense if he had committed the act. Having Steffy be the one to do it feels like a misstep; if they intended for her to be the perpetrator, she should have been the one experiencing the traumatic aftermath, not Finn

I don't for one moment believe that the person Steffy killed is Sheila, so with that in mind, I think it makes sense that it was Steffy and not Finn.
Your version would have been a riveting story, Finn being forced to choose and having all of these crazy emotions, but there would have been a larger buildup—a real story around it.

The more I watch this the more I feel like this is just a plot device. Finn looks bad for a minute, but then it turns out there is some explanation for his over-the-top reaction and this sudden connection to Sheila.

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B&Bfan1980, 3/11/2024, 1:16AM (68 days ago) @matisse

Hope (Annika Noelle) is concerned about Deacon’s (Sean Kanan) mental health.

Thomas (Matthew Atkinson) is concerned about Steffy’s (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) mental health.

Luna (Lisa Yamada) and Bill (Don Diamont) have a bonding conversation.

Steffy and Finn (Tanner Novlan) do everything to get past Sheila’s (Kimberlin Brown) death.

Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) tells Thomas to be bold in his relationship with Hope.

Hope and Thomas reminisce about Rome.

Luna continues to be weighed down with guilt about her night with Zende (Delon de Metz).

Finn experiences visions about Sheila’s death while trying to reconnect with Steffy.

Hope tries to make Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) see the light about Thomas.

Bill offers to support Luna when she can’t connect with Poppy (Romy Park).
Ridge advocates for Thomas with Brooke.

Finn loses his cool when he can’t get dead Sheila out of his head.

Thomas designs Hope a gown.


Thank you again for the spoilers you bring over to us. ;-)

Since Deacon is blaming Steffy, and Steffy is saying she had no choice, will Hope be on Deacon's side, and Tom on Steffy's and there might be some conflict?

So glad that we will be getting Bill and Luna scenes. I like DD and have missed seeing him on the show.

Ridge has never ever been right about anything when it comes to other people's relationships or even understanding people, so he should do his son a solid, and stay out of it.

I wonder if when they go down memory lane Hope will remember what she now knows, that Liam was watching her betray him with the monster that wanted their child dead to them forever? Just curious. I mean, if this were a person from real life, they would not find this a good memory of when they got caught lying and cheating on their spouse, by the spouse. JMO

Hope is like Ridge, a person that has very little talent for reading people's true nature. She should listen to her mother, or stop trying to get her mother to give her a different answer to a question Hope has already asked her over and over and over.

Again, Ridge should just step off and quit trying to push one of the victims of his criminal son to let it all go. Why should Brooke let it go? I think Ridge should be on Brooke's side and not his adult mentally unstable criminal son's, who hurt Brooke and her family many times. If Ridge wants to walk into that quagmire of Tom and his conflicting mental issues, that is on him, but he should not be trying to drag Brooke along with him. She has no interest in letting Tom close to her again in any way. Good for Brooke for having keen self preservation, something neither Ridge or Hope possess. I hope she is not a pushover and allows Ridge to drag her into that oncoming mess of Tom and his next spate of mental issues.

Sounds like Finn is not going to want to get naked with his wife, since his mother will be in that bed with them. LOL

I am SMH wondering what kind of Disney fairy Princess wedding dress Tom is going to spring on, too-old-to-wear-a-fairy-princess dress Hope, as his "final" proposal to her?

Is Deacon blaming Steffy? I don't think even Deacon thinks that Steffy outright murdered Sheila. I think he is confused because so much of it doesn't make sense to him.

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Foreverbeauty, 3/11/2024, 2:49AM (68 days ago) @bnbviewer

That Finn spoiler caught my attention. I'll be watching that episode.

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howeveryouknow, 3/11/2024, 7:19AM (68 days ago) @B&Bfan1980

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.


Looking forward to seeing Finn lose his cool

If Luna keeps talking about it, who do you think will over hear and spill the beans??? She needs a rival someone who could really use it to her advantage as a competitor for RJs affection. Too bad there’s no one on the horizon:neutral


Douglas is usually the one that overhears a lot of secrets, but he hasn't been on screen lately. I think RJ will be the one that overhears while Luna, Poppy and Zende are talking about it in the office.

I am also looking forward to seeing Finn lose it. I wish they would have him bring up the times that Steffy went to Sheila's apartment to attack her. Even though it was self-defense, I wish they would have Finn and Deacon doubting it and keep bringing up to Steffy that she wished Sheila dead and Sheila died just hours later. To me, it would make good drama. They could decide to believe Steffy later on.


I know Deacon could believe that (and there's good drama in that), but why would Finn? He even acknowledged himself that Sheila was being Sheila right near the end. I think Finn is already constantly being accused of being stupid when it comes to Sheila (they always set him to look like the fool); they had him suspect that it was not self-defense and that his wife killed Sheila in cold blood, Finn would never live that down. And would the pairing even come from a husband thinking his wife and mother of his child is a murderer?

I don't think it would be smart for Finn to also be victim-blaming Steffy, considering what they went through under Sheila.


I think the fact that Steffy instigated the two most recent confrontations could be used as a reason to doubt her story. But I don't actually think that is the story they are telling. If they were I think the stabbing would have been more open for debate. Perhaps it would have taken place at Sheila's home. Most people would agree regardless of their feelings about Steffy that she was justified in the stabbing.


I understand, but Finn seemed to support the first punch and even found it amusing, describing it as a "badass" move by Steffy. During the second confrontation, while he thought Steffy shouldn't have provoked Sheila, he still defended her, insisting that Steffy only punched Sheila because she was pushed first. So, it wouldn't make much sense for him to suddenly believe Steffy is a vicious killer. Personally, I'm relieved they didn't take that route.

Overall, I believe this storyline is poorly written and contrived. I strongly feel that it would have been more effective if Finn had been the one to stab Sheila. His exaggerated reaction to her death, his sudden distance from Steffy (Finn would have NEVER left Steffy alone to deal with police and let her spend a night alone after she went through something traumatic; this was very much unlike him), and his nightmares/hallucinations about Sheila would have made more sense if he had committed the act. Having Steffy be the one to do it feels like a misstep; if they intended for her to be the perpetrator, she should have been the one experiencing the traumatic aftermath, not Finn


I don't for one moment believe that the person Steffy killed is Sheila, so with that in mind, I think it makes sense that it was Steffy and not Finn.
Your version would have been a riveting story, Finn being forced to choose and having all of these crazy emotions, but there would have been a larger buildup—a real story around it.

The more I watch this the more I feel like this is just a plot device. Finn looks bad for a minute, but then it turns out there is some explanation for his over-the-top reaction and this sudden connection to Sheila.

To me, the stabbing incident occurred seemingly out of the blue after weeks of Sheila's absence, during which she kept her distance from Sinn. Suddenly, she photobombed a picture with Kelly, prompting Steffy to confront her, Steffy started screaming that she wants Sheila dead, and all of this happened within two weeks, this lack of buildup makes the arc feel poorly executed.

Even if Sheila wasn't the one stabbed, having Finn doing so in order to protect Steffy would have made for a more compelling narrative. We already saw Finn, a doctor who values human life, facing the moral dilemma of whether to save Sheila or honor his oath, and thus seeing him struggle with killing someone, who happens to be his birth mother, would have been much more enjoyable story. Steffy is being extremely supportive and attentive wife, which is great, considering that Finn has been the one doing the supporting for most of their relationship, but the current context is not great.

The truth is, the writers seem to be expecting too much from the audience.Finn did not stab Sheila or witness the stabbing. Finn and Sheila barely had a relationship or a bond, and their interactions have mostly been negative. When they thought Sheila died the first time by the hands of a bear, Finn showed relief rather than grief. Expecting viewers to suddenly empathize with Finn's trauma feels unrealistic given the lack of emotional investment built up between the characters. Even Tanner's powerful acting can't fully compensate for the missing emotional beats.

Overall, the current storyline feels disjointed. If Finn had been the one to commit the act, the aftermath would have felt more coherent with his character arc. As a fan, I find it difficult to connect with Finn's emotions in this situation, and the narrative feels out of sync as a result. But perhaps you will be right, and there will be some sort of twist, where Finn's reaction would make more sense narrative wise.

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hopeyougogirl, 3/11/2024, 3:35PM (67 days ago) @Joy

Hope (Annika Noelle) is concerned about Deacon’s (Sean Kanan) mental health.

Thomas (Matthew Atkinson) is concerned about Steffy’s (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood) mental health.

Luna (Lisa Yamada) and Bill (Don Diamont) have a bonding conversation.

Steffy and Finn (Tanner Novlan) do everything to get past Sheila’s (Kimberlin Brown) death.

Ridge (Thorsten Kaye) tells Thomas to be bold in his relationship with Hope.

Hope and Thomas reminisce about Rome.

Luna continues to be weighed down with guilt about her night with Zende (Delon de Metz).

Finn experiences visions about Sheila’s death while trying to reconnect with Steffy.

Hope tries to make Brooke (Katherine Kelly Lang) see the light about Thomas.

Bill offers to support Luna when she can’t connect with Poppy (Romy Park).
Ridge advocates for Thomas with Brooke.

Finn loses his cool when he can’t get dead Sheila out of his head.

Thomas designs Hope a gown.


Thank you again for the spoilers you bring over to us. ;-)

Since Deacon is blaming Steffy, and Steffy is saying she had no choice, will Hope be on Deacon's side, and Tom on Steffy's and there might be some conflict?

So glad that we will be getting Bill and Luna scenes. I like DD and have missed seeing him on the show.

Ridge has never ever been right about anything when it comes to other people's relationships or even understanding people, so he should do his son a solid, and stay out of it.

I wonder if when they go down memory lane Hope will remember what she now knows, that Liam was watching her betray him with the monster that wanted their child dead to them forever? Just curious. I mean, if this were a person from real life, they would not find this a good memory of when they got caught lying and cheating on their spouse, by the spouse. JMO

Hope is like Ridge, a person that has very little talent for reading people's true nature. She should listen to her mother, or stop trying to get her mother to give her a different answer to a question Hope has already asked her over and over and over.

Again, Ridge should just step off and quit trying to push one of the victims of his criminal son to let it all go. Why should Brooke let it go? I think Ridge should be on Brooke's side and not his adult mentally unstable criminal son's, who hurt Brooke and her family many times. If Ridge wants to walk into that quagmire of Tom and his conflicting mental issues, that is on him, but he should not be trying to drag Brooke along with him. She has no interest in letting Tom close to her again in any way. Good for Brooke for having keen self preservation, something neither Ridge or Hope possess. I hope she is not a pushover and allows Ridge to drag her into that oncoming mess of Tom and his next spate of mental issues.

Sounds like Finn is not going to want to get naked with his wife, since his mother will be in that bed with them. LOL

I am SMH wondering what kind of Disney fairy Princess wedding dress Tom is going to spring on, too-old-to-wear-a-fairy-princess dress Hope, as his "final" proposal to her?


:lol Finn will look in Steffy's eyes and her face will turn into Sheila's.

Hope may end up wearing a Disney fairy Princess dress, but I am afraid she will be marrying a frog instead of a prince. :lol

A frog is being too kind to that child abusive monster..more accurate description would be she would be marrying the devil.:rules

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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hopeyougogirl, 3/11/2024, 3:42PM (67 days ago) @dxdobson

I wonder if Thomas will look back fondly on how Hope told him that what happens in Rome stays in Rome!

Or do the writers really think enough time has passed that they can't do rewrites already?

Thank you for the Spoilers OP!!
That line is forgotten!
Only the endless sex means anything now!
No family dinners with Beth and Doug?
Hmm
Also is it Deacon or Finn who Hope supports?

IMO, the show is purposely NOT doing family scenes for them four including Beth being in the same scene as Thomas. There is a reason for it..and I bet Beth will have major issues with the evil man that wanted her dead forever marrying her mother.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Barbybo, 3/11/2024, 7:15PM (67 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

I wonder if Thomas will look back fondly on how Hope told him that what happens in Rome stays in Rome!

Or do the writers really think enough time has passed that they can't do rewrites already?

Thank you for the Spoilers OP!!
That line is forgotten!
Only the endless sex means anything now!
No family dinners with Beth and Doug?
Hmm
Also is it Deacon or Finn who Hope supports?


IMO, the show is purposely NOT doing family scenes for them four including Beth being in the same scene as Thomas. There is a reason for it..and I bet Beth will have major issues with the evil man that wanted her dead forever marrying her mother.

Kid five kids adjust I think she will adore him..

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Barbybo, 3/11/2024, 7:17PM (67 days ago) @Joy

Maybe Ridge should find out if Hope is ready to take the relationship to the next level before he starts pushing Thomas to be bold. I wonder if this is going to be another case of where Brooke is right about Thomas and Ridge is wrong about his "boy" as Ridge calls him again. Brooke has been right about Thomas every time in the past while Ridge has pushed Brooke to accept that Thomas had changed.

Brookes a broken record notice they never got married ridge should dump her if she nags again he must be sick of her by now anyway

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