Thomas proved by his "actions" (General)
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
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Shimster 
, 1/22/2024, 12:12PM (97 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Liz , 1/22/2024, 1:11PM (97 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
And I think a manipulative Thomas KNOWS it..that's why he kept repeating to her what she likes to hear..that he has no divided heart "loves" only her..then she immediately gets turned on and wanted her lust fest. IMO, so weird and creepy, and yes definitely unhealthy.
--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Liz , 1/22/2024, 2:22PM (97 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
And I think a manipulative Thomas KNOWS it..that's why he kept repeating to her what she likes to hear..that he has no divided heart "loves" only her..then she immediately gets turned on and wanted her lust fest. IMO, so weird and creepy, and yes definitely unhealthy.
I agree. It's the same pattern he's been using since 2019. I love you. You are the only woman for me. No divided heart. You are beautiful. HFTF is the best. No one can make you happier than me. Blah blah blah. Same words over and over again.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Shimster , 1/22/2024, 3:01PM (97 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
And I think a manipulative Thomas KNOWS it..that's why he kept repeating to her what she likes to hear..that he has no divided heart "loves" only her..then she immediately gets turned on and wanted her lust fest. IMO, so weird and creepy, and yes definitely unhealthy.
Not only that. Thomas goes to talk to Steffy and encourages her to go to Finn to get him to back off - She does. He goes to Ridge and starts bringing Brooke in to it for no reason. Thomas is a master manipulator- changed for the better? Not seeing it.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Drangonfly , 1/22/2024, 4:03PM (97 days ago) @Liz- one person liked this
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
She craves what every woman craves and in fact, deserves.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
She craves what every woman craves and in fact, deserves.
Yeah, but with her stalker, child abuser who did evil to Beth, her and Liam? Doesn't have to be with HIM imo..why overlooked his evil but not Liam's past? Still made no sense to me whatsoever.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Drangonfly , 1/22/2024, 5:22PM (97 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
She craves what every woman craves and in fact, deserves.
Yeah, but with her stalker, child abuser who did evil to Beth, her and Liam? Doesn't have to be with HIM imo..why overlooked his evil but not Liam's past? Still made no sense to me whatsoever.
Not in real life, but in Bell's world...
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
Yep. I just think Hope is so wrapped up in lust with the devil that she can't see straight.
Hope is absorbed in an unhealthy relationship with Thomas because Thomas is giving her her fix. She's needs what he is providing much like a drug to an addict and alcohol to an alcoholic.
She craves what every woman craves and in fact, deserves.
Yeah, but with her stalker, child abuser who did evil to Beth, her and Liam? Doesn't have to be with HIM imo..why overlooked his evil but not Liam's past? Still made no sense to me whatsoever.
Not in real life, but in Bell's world...
Even in Bell's world, still made no sense. This is a guy she knew her WHOLE life..yet, she never lusted after him. Then one day she woke up and suddenly fantasize about having sex with him that came out of nowhere..talk about bizzare!
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Excellent post! I also am wondering what Thomas has done to prove that he has changed. And, Thomas’s history has always shown that he only comes forward with the truth when cornered. IMO, he is still showing he is obsessed with all things Hope and he is still manipulating those around him. I am not convinced he’s changed.
I guess because he has not harmed anyone, abused his son, or lied to authorities in 12 months...he has proven himself changed. But, Liam having not thought of Steffy once since the ONS did not prove anything to Hope. Nor did telling Steffy within 24 hours of her thinking it, that he was not her sweet husband, after Hope told him it could not continue and he agreed.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
All you said here and if he has changed then why along with telling her about chasing Emma down the road, did he not tell her he forged the letter from Caroline? That he was in cahoots with sheila to dupe Brooke? That he drugged Liam to have sex with Steffy?
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
He hasn’t swayed he seems normal..Hopes been the aggressor
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Shimster , 1/22/2024, 3:41PM (97 days ago) @Barbybo
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
He hasn’t swayed he seems normal..Hopes been the aggressor
Beg to disagree. Yes, Hope has been the aggressor where the sex is concerned. However, IMO Thomas is still manipulating her. The proposal in particular. He’s not acting “normal” to me. Sorry, not sorry
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
He hasn’t swayed he seems normal..Hopes been the aggressor
Beg to disagree. Yes, Hope has been the aggressor where the sex is concerned. However, IMO Thomas is still manipulating her. The proposal in particular. He’s not acting “normal” to me. Sorry, not sorry
He hasn’t been bad ..
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Shimster , 1/22/2024, 4:18PM (97 days ago) @Barbybo
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
He hasn’t swayed he seems normal..Hopes been the aggressor
Beg to disagree. Yes, Hope has been the aggressor where the sex is concerned. However, IMO Thomas is still manipulating her. The proposal in particular. He’s not acting “normal” to me. Sorry, not sorry
He hasn’t been bad ..
We all interpret differently. Agree to disagree.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Sammy , 1/22/2024, 5:36PM (97 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
He hasn’t swayed he seems normal..Hopes been the aggressor
Beg to disagree. Yes, Hope has been the aggressor where the sex is concerned. However, IMO Thomas is still manipulating her. The proposal in particular. He’s not acting “normal” to me. Sorry, not sorry
He hasn’t been bad ..
I agree, Thomas hasn’t been bad. Hope comes across with both her eyes open. Thomas isn’t manipulating Hope.
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Sammy , 1/22/2024, 5:41PM (97 days ago) @Barbybo
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
He hasn’t swayed he seems normal..Hopes been the aggressor
True
Thomas proved by his "actions"
Hope told Brooke that Thomas has changed and he proved it by his "actions". What "actions"? I would like to know. Because he only now came forward with his version of the "truth" regarding Emma's death? Does Hope not realize Thomas never would've came forward to her about this "truth" had he not been cornered by Xander's return?
So what other "actions"? I don't see any..he is still the same person who lives, breaths, worships/praises everything Hope Hope Hope just like he's always done. Just because Thomas claimed he saw the therapist and that he's all "changed"..and these fools all bought it. LOL.
IMO, if he truly has changed and proved by his "actions", he would've gotten himself a healthy dating life to showed that he's no longer obsessed with Hope....he certainly wouldn't be offering his obsession an inappropriate back massage on the plane with Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy all on board....and he certainly would've stopped a married Hope from throwing herself at him in Rome like he promised Steffy even if Hope throws herself at him that he wouldn't do anything. Yeah, right....
The show has not shown the fans anything that would suggest Thomas has changed. He’s got the girl of his obsession. That’s no way to prove he’s better.