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Bridge4Evr, 12/1/2023, 11:47AM (149 days ago)

From Soap Opera News:

The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Monday, December 4, 2023 - Episode #9160

Donna panics when Eric suffers a medical emergency. Zende confronts RJ about his new place at Forrester.


B&B Spoilers Tuesday, December 5, 2023 – #Episode 9161

Brooke, Katie, and Donna worry about Eric’s determination to continue the party as planned. Thorne Forrester returns to Los Angeles at the invitation of his father, Eric.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Wednesday, December 6, 2023 - Episode #9162

Thorne and Bridget learn the truth about Eric’s medical condition. Hiding his illness, Eric kicks off his soiree, making a toast to his family.


B&B Spoilers Thursday, December 7, 2023 – Episode #9163

Eric shares a special moment with each of his family members and guests. Li becomes suspicious of why Finn is researching when he should be with Steffy at the Forrester Mansion.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Friday, December 8, 2023 – Episode #9164

Donna intervenes when she overhears the truth about who really won the fashion showdown. Eric makes a final speech

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tarantula, 12/1/2023, 2:04PM (149 days ago) @Bridge4Evr- one person liked this

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?

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Bridge4Evr, 12/1/2023, 2:10PM (149 days ago) @tarantula- one person liked this

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?

I don’t know but I’m sick of Zende acting a fool.

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Kammie @, 12/1/2023, 10:07PM (149 days ago) @Bridge4Evr- one person liked this

For me Zende has turned into Maya when she revealed herself to her fiancée Carter that she was nothing but a gold digger and set out to destroy her mark's marriage. He is now in the disgusting category. Time to send him Forester International where all the misfits are sent when they have been exiled.

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Bridge4Evr, 12/1/2023, 10:09PM (149 days ago) @Kammie

For me Zende has turned into Maya when she revealed herself to her fiancée Carter that she was nothing but a gold digger and set out to destroy her mark's marriage. He is now in the disgusting category. Time to send him Forester International where all the misfits are sent when they have been exiled.

He’s gone from sweetheart to nasty in an instant! Hopefully when he finds out about Eric he’ll settle down and stop with the tantrums.

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Tiqui1999 @, 12/1/2023, 7:01PM (149 days ago) @tarantula

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?

Zende is not being stupid. He's wondering why a person who was running around, playing social influencer suddenly gets chosen to work with Eric. It seems like to Zende that R.J. just woke up, wanted it, and got his wish even though Zende feels he's the one who actually worked for a position like that. And he is also a grandson.

And Zende is right. Why did Eric choose RJ and not Zende? Did Zende and Eric not work well at th beginning of of the year? back then, it was hinted that they did couture together. The show is just not making sense in regard to it, especially in not telling Zende what's happening to his grandfather but Luna, Finn, and Carter can know.

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BBDownunder, 12/1/2023, 8:23PM (149 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

and Zende is apparently living with Eric

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Bridge4Evr, 12/1/2023, 8:38PM (149 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?


Zende is not being stupid. He's wondering why a person who was running around, playing social influencer suddenly gets chosen to work with Eric. It seems like to Zende that R.J. just woke up, wanted it, and got his wish even though Zende feels he's the one who actually worked for a position like that. And he is also a grandson.

And Zende is right. Why did Eric choose RJ and not Zende? Did Zende and Eric not work well at th beginning of of the year? back then, it was hinted that they did couture together. The show is just not making sense in regard to it, especially in not telling Zende what's happening to his grandfather but Luna, Finn, and Carter can know.

Zende is not just “wondering”. He’s going around screaming and hollering and acting stupid! He’s being a complete ass. Then when he couldn’t get Thomas to join in his tirade against RJ, he decided he’d go after the girl that he knows RJ cares for. FURTHERMORE, big deal that RJ at first said he didn’t want to work at FC. If working with his granddad has awakened something in him that has changed his mind, he has as much right to work at FC designing as Zende or any other Forrester grandchild. Zende is acting as if it’s a federal crime for RJ to change his mind.

As for him not being told about Eric’s condition, yeah, he should be told. But that’s not RJ’s fault and RJ doesn’t deserve his ire! RJ even tried to get Ridge to tell Zende about what’s going on with Eric but Ridge refused. Why the writers decided that Zende doesn’t deserve to know but Carter does is beyond me. But it’s not on RJ, that’s for sure.

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Tiqui1999 @, 12/2/2023, 2:28PM (148 days ago) @Bridge4Evr

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?


Zende is not being stupid. He's wondering why a person who was running around, playing social influencer suddenly gets chosen to work with Eric. It seems like to Zende that R.J. just woke up, wanted it, and got his wish even though Zende feels he's the one who actually worked for a position like that. And he is also a grandson.

And Zende is right. Why did Eric choose RJ and not Zende? Did Zende and Eric not work well at th beginning of of the year? back then, it was hinted that they did couture together. The show is just not making sense in regard to it, especially in not telling Zende what's happening to his grandfather but Luna, Finn, and Carter can know.


Zende is not just “wondering”. He’s going around screaming and hollering and acting stupid! He’s being a complete ass. Then when he couldn’t get Thomas to join in his tirade against RJ, he decided he’d go after the girl that he knows RJ cares for. FURTHERMORE, big deal that RJ at first said he didn’t want to work at FC. If working with his granddad has awakened something in him that has changed his mind, he has as much right to work at FC designing as Zende or any other Forrester grandchild. Zende is acting as if it’s a federal crime for RJ to change his mind.

As for him not being told about Eric’s condition, yeah, he should be told. But that’s not RJ’s fault and RJ doesn’t deserve his ire! RJ even tried to get Ridge to tell Zende about what’s going on with Eric but Ridge refused. Why the writers decided that Zende doesn’t deserve to know but Carter does is beyond me. But it’s not on RJ, that’s for sure.

Zende might be behaving like an ass, but he's justified. Most family who has worked at Forster always talks about how they started at the bottom or in the basement, they didn't get special privilege. So he has a right to be upset about that. He doesn't need to go about rectifying it the way he's doing, but he does have a valid beef.

And it is within RJ's control that zende can know the truth. All RJ has to do is tell him, just like he told luna, Brooke and ridge.

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Bridge4Evr, 12/2/2023, 2:36PM (148 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?


Zende is not being stupid. He's wondering why a person who was running around, playing social influencer suddenly gets chosen to work with Eric. It seems like to Zende that R.J. just woke up, wanted it, and got his wish even though Zende feels he's the one who actually worked for a position like that. And he is also a grandson.

And Zende is right. Why did Eric choose RJ and not Zende? Did Zende and Eric not work well at th beginning of of the year? back then, it was hinted that they did couture together. The show is just not making sense in regard to it, especially in not telling Zende what's happening to his grandfather but Luna, Finn, and Carter can know.


Zende is not just “wondering”. He’s going around screaming and hollering and acting stupid! He’s being a complete ass. Then when he couldn’t get Thomas to join in his tirade against RJ, he decided he’d go after the girl that he knows RJ cares for. FURTHERMORE, big deal that RJ at first said he didn’t want to work at FC. If working with his granddad has awakened something in him that has changed his mind, he has as much right to work at FC designing as Zende or any other Forrester grandchild. Zende is acting as if it’s a federal crime for RJ to change his mind.

As for him not being told about Eric’s condition, yeah, he should be told. But that’s not RJ’s fault and RJ doesn’t deserve his ire! RJ even tried to get Ridge to tell Zende about what’s going on with Eric but Ridge refused. Why the writers decided that Zende doesn’t deserve to know but Carter does is beyond me. But it’s not on RJ, that’s for sure.


Zende might be behaving like an ass, but he's justified. Every person who has worked at Forster always talks about how they started at the bottom or in the basement, they didn't get special privilege. So he has a right to be upset about that. He doesn't need to go about rectifying it the way he's doing, but he does have a valid beef.

And it is within RJ's control that Cindy can know the truth. RJ has to do is tell him, just like he told luna.

RJ has already done apprentice work in design at FC. Now he’s helped his grandfather design an entire line. Ridge doesn’t have to justify not having to do grunt work before going right into designing since that’s what the CEO has been begging him to do. If Zende can’t deal with that, tough!

And RJ isn’t obligated to tell Zende a thing. He confided in Luna for his own comfort and to make her understand why Eric was snapping her head off so much. Zende is treating RJ like crap! So, no, RJ doesn’t owe him a thing.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 12/2/2023, 7:46AM (148 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Especially as Zende, if he knew that Eric is very sick, would have had a chance to understand how this happened, Eric choosing RJ to work with him and not Zende or anyone else. That it had nothing to do with who is the better designer or longer at FC.
And this is why it was wrong of Ridge not to tell Zende about it...he told Carter now, said Carter "is family"...and what about Zende? Shouldn´t he be more "family" than Carter is?

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Tiqui1999 @, 12/2/2023, 5:06PM (148 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this

Especially as Zende, if he knew that Eric is very sick, would have had a chance to understand how this happened, Eric choosing RJ to work with him and not Zende or anyone else. That it had nothing to do with who is the better designer or longer at FC.
And this is why it was wrong of Ridge not to tell Zende about it...he told Carter now, said Carter "is family"...and what about Zende? Shouldn´t he be more "family" than Carter is?

Agreed. Especially after Ridge set up there and said he would honor Eric's wishes and not tell anyone else but then said Carter is family and deserves to know. There is no excuse not to tell zende.

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matisse, 12/2/2023, 8:16AM (148 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?


Zende is not being stupid. He's wondering why a person who was running around, playing social influencer suddenly gets chosen to work with Eric. It seems like to Zende that R.J. just woke up, wanted it, and got his wish even though Zende feels he's the one who actually worked for a position like that. And he is also a grandson.

And Zende is right. Why did Eric choose RJ and not Zende? Did Zende and Eric not work well at th beginning of of the year? back then, it was hinted that they did couture together. The show is just not making sense in regard to it, especially in not telling Zende what's happening to his grandfather but Luna, Finn, and Carter can know.

Ridge should have called Kristin as soon as he found out, and then she could have told Zende. If not, then Ridge should have told him by now. Everyone else knows....so now when Zende does find out, when he gets past the shock of it, his anger is going to be off the charts. Carter and Luna know, but he was not allowed to know??? Who is Ridge going to tell next? Charlie? Steffy's male nanny? The car valet at FC? Ridge has really insulted Zende's place in the family, basically what Ridge's actions are saying about Zende "only important people need to know, and you are not important enough"

I am more angry at Brooke for not telling Bridget, who last we saw lives in L.A. Then she should be hopping on the FC jet and getting her butt over to Paris to tell Rick that his dad is dying and he needs to come back with her.

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Tiqui1999 @, 12/2/2023, 8:38PM (148 days ago) @matisse

Why can't RJ be a designer at FC again? In other words, why is Zenda being stupid?


Zende is not being stupid. He's wondering why a person who was running around, playing social influencer suddenly gets chosen to work with Eric. It seems like to Zende that R.J. just woke up, wanted it, and got his wish even though Zende feels he's the one who actually worked for a position like that. And he is also a grandson.

And Zende is right. Why did Eric choose RJ and not Zende? Did Zende and Eric not work well at th beginning of of the year? back then, it was hinted that they did couture together. The show is just not making sense in regard to it, especially in not telling Zende what's happening to his grandfather but Luna, Finn, and Carter can know.


Ridge should have called Kristin as soon as he found out, and then she could have told Zende. If not, then Ridge should have told him by now. Everyone else knows....so now when Zende does find out, when he gets past the shock of it, his anger is going to be off the charts. Carter and Luna know, but he was not allowed to know??? Who is Ridge going to tell next? Charlie? Steffy's male nanny? The car valet at FC? Ridge has really insulted Zende's place in the family, basically what Ridge's actions are saying about Zende "only important people need to know, and you are not important enough"

I am more angry at Brooke for not telling Bridget, who last we saw lives in L.A. Then she should be hopping on the FC jet and getting her butt over to Paris to tell Rick that his dad is dying and he needs to come back with her.

Yep. Agree, agree!

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tarantula, 12/2/2023, 2:08PM (148 days ago) @Tiqui1999
edited by tarantula, 12/2/2023, 2:13PM

But that is just it. Zenda is a Forester who has worked with Eric in the past and is now working on hftf. Zenda have opportunities. I don't remember Zenda asking for his own line.

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Tiqui1999 @, 12/2/2023, 8:45PM (148 days ago) @tarantula

But that is just it. Zenda is a Forester who has worked with Eric in the past and is now working on hftf. Zenda have opportunities. I don't remember Zenda asking for his own line.

I am not pretending to understand where the writers get their history. But this is what they have zende saying.

The information about his career is contradictory actually. When he first came back, they said he was a world renown designer. idk if he had his own line or not at international but he was hot over there.

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Barbybo, 12/2/2023, 7:06AM (148 days ago) @Bridge4Evr- one person liked this

From Soap Opera News:

The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Monday, December 4, 2023 - Episode #9160

Donna panics when Eric suffers a medical emergency. Zende confronts RJ about his new place at Forrester.


B&B Spoilers Tuesday, December 5, 2023 – #Episode 9161

Brooke, Katie, and Donna worry about Eric’s determination to continue the party as planned. Thorne Forrester returns to Los Angeles at the invitation of his father, Eric.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Wednesday, December 6, 2023 - Episode #9162

Thorne and Bridget learn the truth about Eric’s medical condition. Hiding his illness, Eric kicks off his soiree, making a toast to his family.


B&B Spoilers Thursday, December 7, 2023 – Episode #9163

Eric shares a special moment with each of his family members and guests. Li becomes suspicious of why Finn is researching when he should be with Steffy at the Forrester Mansion.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Friday, December 8, 2023 – Episode #9164

Donna intervenes when she overhears the truth about who really won the fashion showdown. Eric makes a final speech

Maybe Li saves Eric she saved Finn

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GracieGirl, 12/3/2023, 4:44PM (147 days ago) @Bridge4Evr- one person liked this

From Soap Opera News:

The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Monday, December 4, 2023 - Episode #9160

Donna panics when Eric suffers a medical emergency. Zende confronts RJ about his new place at Forrester.


B&B Spoilers Tuesday, December 5, 2023 – #Episode 9161

Brooke, Katie, and Donna worry about Eric’s determination to continue the party as planned. Thorne Forrester returns to Los Angeles at the invitation of his father, Eric.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Wednesday, December 6, 2023 - Episode #9162

Thorne and Bridget learn the truth about Eric’s medical condition. Hiding his illness, Eric kicks off his soiree, making a toast to his family.


B&B Spoilers Thursday, December 7, 2023 – Episode #9163

Eric shares a special moment with each of his family members and guests. Li becomes suspicious of why Finn is researching when he should be with Steffy at the Forrester Mansion.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Friday, December 8, 2023 – Episode #9164

Donna intervenes when she overhears the truth about who really won the fashion showdown. Eric makes a final speech

The word “final” is not lost on me.

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Bridge4Evr, 12/3/2023, 9:12PM (147 days ago) @GracieGirl

From Soap Opera News:

The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Monday, December 4, 2023 - Episode #9160

Donna panics when Eric suffers a medical emergency. Zende confronts RJ about his new place at Forrester.


B&B Spoilers Tuesday, December 5, 2023 – #Episode 9161

Brooke, Katie, and Donna worry about Eric’s determination to continue the party as planned. Thorne Forrester returns to Los Angeles at the invitation of his father, Eric.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Wednesday, December 6, 2023 - Episode #9162

Thorne and Bridget learn the truth about Eric’s medical condition. Hiding his illness, Eric kicks off his soiree, making a toast to his family.


B&B Spoilers Thursday, December 7, 2023 – Episode #9163

Eric shares a special moment with each of his family members and guests. Li becomes suspicious of why Finn is researching when he should be with Steffy at the Forrester Mansion.


The Bold and the Beautiful Spoilers Friday, December 8, 2023 – Episode #9164

Donna intervenes when she overhears the truth about who really won the fashion showdown. Eric makes a final speech


The word “final” is not lost on me.

Yeah, do they mean he’s really going to die? I still don’t believe it because of the picture (scroll down) that Lauralee Bell posted on her instagram a few weeks ago from the B&B set of Eric’s house, all decked out in Christmas decor. She posted it November 17, so if it’s going to air it would be around December 17-25. Wouldn’t Eric be dead by then if he’s making a “final” speech this week?
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