Thomas, I am NOT in love with you (General)

“But, I’ll use you for a booty call right now because Liam let me down and won’t come back to me. But if he should change his mind, I’m dumping you like a hot potato, just like I did yesterday. Can you handle that?”

Paraphrasing the last part, but that is what Hope said to Thomas today and he is so obsessed with her, he’ll take whatever he can get. The problem is, when Hope tries to walk away, he’s not going to let her.

Okay, I can't watch maybe until tomorrow. Please don't tease. Did Hope actually say, Thomas, I'm not in love with you but let's be booty friends?

Basically, yes.

Oh man, that is cruel.

For some reason I don't feel bad for him

“But, I’ll use you for a booty call right now because Liam let me down and won’t come back to me. But if he should change his mind, I’m dumping you like a hot potato, just like I did yesterday. Can you handle that?”

Paraphrasing the last part, but that is what Hope said to Thomas today and he is so obsessed with her, he’ll take whatever he can get. The problem is, when Hope tries to walk away, he’s not going to let her.

Okay, I can't watch maybe until tomorrow. Please don't tease. Did Hope actually say, Thomas, I'm not in love with you but let's be booty friends?

Basically, yes.

Oh man, that is cruel.

For some reason I don't feel bad for him

I definitely don't feel bad for him. Hope told him the facts. He had a choice - accept it or leave. He made a decision while having all of the facts. If he is too fragile to be making his own decisions, perhaps his WRP mommy should have him locked up or something. Taylor and Steffy were frothing at the mouth demanding Hope work with Thomas or HFTF gets the boot, and they laughed in delight over it possibly being trouble for Lope (therefore, they KNEW it could lead to something, but were fine with it when it suited THIER purposes).

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

He'll take what he can get from her. That's sad. He should want more for himself.

Hope should want more for herself.

She does. She wants Liam. But he shut that door.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

He'll take what he can get from her. That's sad. He should want more for himself.

Hope should want more for herself.

This is definitely not like Brooke. I don't think I've ever seen Brooke behave like this. Brooke has always prided herself I'm going after a man she believes she's in love with. This right here...smh

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

He'll take what he can get from her. That's sad. He should want more for himself.

Hope should want more for herself.

Thats what i was about to type!!!

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

He'll take what he can get from her. That's sad. He should want more for himself.

Common situation
Hope seemed justvyesterday willing to take what she could get from liam

I didn't see that they are the same. Liam didn't offer anything.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

I love your optimism Taker...I really do....but friends with benefits does not usually end well for the party that is in love with the other. Hope said she is not in love with Thomas....but the important part was....she didn't even tell the poor schnook that she loved him at all, even as a friend, a co-worker, a step-brother or Doug's dad....that was very LOUD but unsaid in the room today. For whatever reason....Hope is just h**ny for Tom...and that is IT!

I am going to say something I did not think possible until today...I felt sorry for that poor pitiful psycho. On one hand he is going to get a lot of sex, on the other, he will be getting very emotionally unfulfilling sex. And eventually he is going to be getting the boot.

Yes. If they were on equal footing mentally there would be nothing wrong with it, but that’s not the case. If she’s that convinced she doesn’t love him that she declares it as definitively as she did today …and God knows she should know by now…and she knows he’s desperately in love with her and has been working on getting over his obsession with her and is capable of making some poor choices when he’s desperate….it’s selfish in terms of risking his mental health and unwise in terms of her own future safety when she undoubtedly reunites with Liam or finds someone else she thinks she could love. So I take back calling her horrible. She’s horrible and stupid.

Yep. I figured from the first moment steffy said Hope was going to make Thomas regress, that this is where they were going with it.

I'm convinced more than ever that she was using steffy and Liam as an excuse so she could blank thomas. This scene proves it for me. Because if she really wanted her marriage back and she was really in love with Liam on top of it, what is she trying to have booty calls for? This woman needs to really seriously sit down and think about what in the world she wants to do with her life instead of what she wants to do between her legs.

And what's the likelihood she has a condom in there?

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

I love your optimism Taker...I really do....but friends with benefits does not usually end well for the party that is in love with the other. Hope said she is not in love with Thomas....but the important part was....she didn't even tell the poor schnook that she loved him at all, even as a friend, a co-worker, a step-brother or Doug's dad....that was very LOUD but unsaid in the room today. For whatever reason....Hope is just h**ny for Tom...and that is IT!

I am going to say something I did not think possible until today...I felt sorry for that poor pitiful psycho. On one hand he is going to get a lot of sex, on the other, he will be getting very emotionally unfulfilling sex. And eventually he is going to be getting the boot.

Yes. If they were on equal footing mentally there would be nothing wrong with it, but that’s not the case. If she’s that convinced she doesn’t love him that she declares it as definitively as she did today …and God knows she should know by now…and she knows he’s desperately in love with her and has been working on getting over his obsession with her and is capable of making some poor choices when he’s desperate….it’s selfish in terms of risking his mental health and unwise in terms of her own future safety when she undoubtedly reunites with Liam or finds someone else she thinks she could love. So I take back calling her horrible. She’s horrible and stupid.

Oh, yes, you are spot on with your post.

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

I love your optimism Taker...I really do....but friends with benefits does not usually end well for the party that is in love with the other. Hope said she is not in love with Thomas....but the important part was....she didn't even tell the poor schnook that she loved him at all, even as a friend, a co-worker, a step-brother or Doug's dad....that was very LOUD but unsaid in the room today. For whatever reason....Hope is just h**ny for Tom...and that is IT!

I am going to say something I did not think possible until today...I felt sorry for that poor pitiful psycho. On one hand he is going to get a lot of sex, on the other, he will be getting very emotionally unfulfilling sex. And eventually he is going to be getting the boot.

Yes. If they were on equal footing mentally there would be nothing wrong with it, but that’s not the case. If she’s that convinced she doesn’t love him that she declares it as definitively as she did today …and God knows she should know by now…and she knows he’s desperately in love with her and has been working on getting over his obsession with her and is capable of making some poor choices when he’s desperate….it’s selfish in terms of risking his mental health and unwise in terms of her own future safety when she undoubtedly reunites with Liam or finds someone else she thinks she could love. So I take back calling her horrible. She’s horrible and stupid.

I agree. She knows his obsessive history with her. I won’t have an ounce of sympathy for her when things go south.

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

I love your optimism Taker...I really do....but friends with benefits does not usually end well for the party that is in love with the other. Hope said she is not in love with Thomas....but the important part was....she didn't even tell the poor schnook that she loved him at all, even as a friend, a co-worker, a step-brother or Doug's dad....that was very LOUD but unsaid in the room today. For whatever reason....Hope is just h**ny for Tom...and that is IT!

I am going to say something I did not think possible until today...I felt sorry for that poor pitiful psycho. On one hand he is going to get a lot of sex, on the other, he will be getting very emotionally unfulfilling sex. And eventually he is going to be getting the boot.

Yes. If they were on equal footing mentally there would be nothing wrong with it, but that’s not the case. If she’s that convinced she doesn’t love him that she declares it as definitively as she did today …and God knows she should know by now…and she knows he’s desperately in love with her and has been working on getting over his obsession with her and is capable of making some poor choices when he’s desperate….it’s selfish in terms of risking his mental health and unwise in terms of her own future safety when she undoubtedly reunites with Liam or finds someone else she thinks she could love. So I take back calling her horrible. She’s horrible and stupid.

I disagree completely. Thomas is an adult. He has supposedly "changed". HE an HE alone is responsible for HIS choices. Hope isn't lying to him. She straight up told him. THOMAS is the one who needs to take care of himself. His well-being is not Hope's responsibility. And if THOMAS is so very fragile, Steffy and Taylor should have never pushed for him and Hope to work together.

No that's not what she said. She said she wasn't in love with him but that she was hurting and needed time which is perfectly reasonable. She asked him if he could handle that [an undefined physical relationship for right now] and then locked the door. Hope just needs time for her emotions to settle.

Of course she'll ask for time. If she tells him outright that she's only using him for sex, even a sucker like Thomas would step back and for some reason Hope needs him physically. She's got to give him some hope if he is to give her what she needs lol.

That just sounds so cold.

I've said from the beginning that I thought she was just using him. It sounded cold to me too at first but honestly I see no real emotion there at all.

So she said that line, amongst an entire chunk of dialogue by the way, and she can never change her mind?

We'll revisit this conversation in a month when Hope is telling Thomas she loves him, that she was hurting and scared of what people would say.

No, we won’t revisit it because she’s not going to tell him that. You can make up all the fanfic about them that you like. Hope told Thomas TO HIS FACE “I’m not in love with you and I don’t want to take advantage of your feelings for me”. But hell, he’s throwing himself at her so she’s using him to scratch that itch that Liam won’t scratch.

Hope is not in love with Thomas. She is in lust with him. He's a guy - so he'll take it. A gentleman would have walked away.

“But, I’ll use you for a booty call right now because Liam let me down and won’t come back to me. But if he should change his mind, I’m dumping you like a hot potato, just like I did yesterday. Can you handle that?”

Paraphrasing the last part, but that is what Hope said to Thomas today and he is so obsessed with her, he’ll take whatever he can get. The problem is, when Hope tries to walk away, he’s not going to let her.

She cares for him but isn’t in love with him, but she is physically attracted to him. So no pretense here and they are both adults. Glad she’s not begging Liam anymore and just moving forward. At least she’s not telling him she loves him and telling Liam the same thing. Maybe the love will come later who knows.

She is using him for sex, that is disgusting. That is shallow and low. if it was the other way around Ya'll aint liking that then again you are right, they are adults. Tom should want better and more but he is too desperate

I’m not sure she doesn’t have real feelings for him just not in love with him. She’s newly separated so that would feel fake. Thomas knows how she feels and is still going for it. If it were the other way around and Thomas was honest and Hope went for it, that would be on her.

This is the man she's fantasized about for months and months. It's not like it's a new relationship. They've spent hours and hours together, flirting and talking and staring. In all the time, she hasn't developed feelings of love? She risked her marriage for sex? How weird that is.

Physical attraction can make people do all kinds of things, risk everything for an affair. It may develop and may be a fling, but either way both players know where the other one stands.

“But, I’ll use you for a booty call right now because Liam let me down and won’t come back to me. But if he should change his mind, I’m dumping you like a hot potato, just like I did yesterday. Can you handle that?”

Paraphrasing the last part, but that is what Hope said to Thomas today and he is so obsessed with her, he’ll take whatever he can get. The problem is, when Hope tries to walk away, he’s not going to let her.

She cares for him but isn’t in love with him, but she is physically attracted to him. So no pretense here and they are both adults. Glad she’s not begging Liam anymore and just moving forward. At least she’s not telling him she loves him and telling Liam the same thing. Maybe the love will come later who knows.

She is using him for sex, that is disgusting. That is shallow and low. if it was the other way around Ya'll aint liking that then again you are right, they are adults. Tom should want better and more but he is too desperate

I’m not sure she doesn’t have real feelings for him just not in love with him. She’s newly separated so that would feel fake. Thomas knows how she feels and is still going for it. If it were the other way around and Thomas was honest and Hope went for it, that would be on her.

This is the man she's fantasized about for months and months. It's not like it's a new relationship. They've spent hours and hours together, flirting and talking and staring. In all the time, she hasn't developed feelings of love? She risked her marriage for sex? How weird that is.

She risked her marriage for a fantasy. Too bad for her she got caught in the act. If Liam hadn't witnessed the Roman kiss, Thope would be having affair behind Liam's back. He would have been none the wiser.

“But, I’ll use you for a booty call right now because Liam let me down and won’t come back to me. But if he should change his mind, I’m dumping you like a hot potato, just like I did yesterday. Can you handle that?”

Paraphrasing the last part, but that is what Hope said to Thomas today and he is so obsessed with her, he’ll take whatever he can get. The problem is, when Hope tries to walk away, he’s not going to let her.

She cares for him but isn’t in love with him, but she is physically attracted to him. So no pretense here and they are both adults. Glad she’s not begging Liam anymore and just moving forward. At least she’s not telling him she loves him and telling Liam the same thing. Maybe the love will come later who knows.

She is using him for sex, that is disgusting. That is shallow and low. if it was the other way around Ya'll aint liking that then again you are right, they are adults. Tom should want better and more but he is too desperate

I’m not sure she doesn’t have real feelings for him just not in love with him. She’s newly separated so that would feel fake. Thomas knows how she feels and is still going for it. If it were the other way around and Thomas was honest and Hope went for it, that would be on her.

This is the man she's fantasized about for months and months. It's not like it's a new relationship. They've spent hours and hours together, flirting and talking and staring. In all the time, she hasn't developed feelings of love? She risked her marriage for sex? How weird that is.

Thats what i dont understand with clown Hope she risked everything for this? then they slide in Liam divided feelings were there and it wasn't

“But, I’ll use you for a booty call right now because Liam let me down and won’t come back to me. But if he should change his mind, I’m dumping you like a hot potato, just like I did yesterday. Can you handle that?”

Paraphrasing the last part, but that is what Hope said to Thomas today and he is so obsessed with her, he’ll take whatever he can get. The problem is, when Hope tries to walk away, he’s not going to let her.

She cares for him but isn’t in love with him, but she is physically attracted to him. So no pretense here and they are both adults. Glad she’s not begging Liam anymore and just moving forward. At least she’s not telling him she loves him and telling Liam the same thing. Maybe the love will come later who knows.

She is using him for sex, that is disgusting. That is shallow and low. if it was the other way around Ya'll aint liking that then again you are right, they are adults. Tom should want better and more but he is too desperate

I’m not sure she doesn’t have real feelings for him just not in love with him. She’s newly separated so that would feel fake. Thomas knows how she feels and is still going for it. If it were the other way around and Thomas was honest and Hope went for it, that would be on her.

This is the man she's fantasized about for months and months. It's not like it's a new relationship. They've spent hours and hours together, flirting and talking and staring. In all the time, she hasn't developed feelings of love? She risked her marriage for sex? How weird that is.

Exactly. This has been the longest slow burn in soap history. if it aint' caught fire now, it probably won't.

“But, I’ll use you for a booty call right now because Liam let me down and won’t come back to me. But if he should change his mind, I’m dumping you like a hot potato, just like I did yesterday. Can you handle that?”

Paraphrasing the last part, but that is what Hope said to Thomas today and he is so obsessed with her, he’ll take whatever he can get. The problem is, when Hope tries to walk away, he’s not going to let her.

She cares for him but isn’t in love with him, but she is physically attracted to him. So no pretense here and they are both adults. Glad she’s not begging Liam anymore and just moving forward. At least she’s not telling him she loves him and telling Liam the same thing. Maybe the love will come later who knows.

She is using him for sex, that is disgusting. That is shallow and low. if it was the other way around Ya'll aint liking that then again you are right, they are adults. Tom should want better and more but he is too desperate

I’m not sure she doesn’t have real feelings for him just not in love with him. She’s newly separated so that would feel fake. Thomas knows how she feels and is still going for it. If it were the other way around and Thomas was honest and Hope went for it, that would be on her.

Its on them both and I understand you but it still looks degrading although they both agree

It is degrading. Thomas pitched his hardest "Love me" speech and what did she do? She said I don't love you but I can sex you."