I didn't believe Hope (General)
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
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When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
I didn't believe Hope
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
If Hope asks Tom to be her booty call on-demand, and he goes along with it....that might be a test she is giving him....if he can handle just being her boy toy Tom-Tom, and nothing more, and not lose his mind over it if she goes out with someone else, then he will have passed the test....he would truly be a changed man. LOL
My guess is, he would fail...especially if he and Hope are hitting the sheets and she starts "dating" Wyatt or even having dinner up at her mom's with Liam and the kids, that her booty call is not invited to. I mean, does anyone really ask booty call they keep on retainer to come to the family outings? LOL
I didn't believe Hope
Liz 
, 8/25/2023, 3:41PM (252 days ago) @matisse
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
If Hope asks Tom to be her booty call on-demand, and he goes along with it....that might be a test she is giving him....if he can handle just being her boy toy Tom-Tom, and nothing more, and not lose his mind over it if she goes out with someone else, then he will have passed the test....he would truly be a changed man. LOLMy guess is, he would fail...especially if he and Hope are hitting the sheets and she starts "dating" Wyatt or even having dinner up at her mom's with Liam and the kids, that her booty call is not invited to. I mean, does anyone really ask booty call they keep on retainer to come to the family outings? LOL
Wow. That would be cold and callous and Thomas would be really really really desperate to go along with that.
I didn't believe Hope
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
If Hope asks Tom to be her booty call on-demand, and he goes along with it....that might be a test she is giving him....if he can handle just being her boy toy Tom-Tom, and nothing more, and not lose his mind over it if she goes out with someone else, then he will have passed the test....he would truly be a changed man. LOLMy guess is, he would fail...especially if he and Hope are hitting the sheets and she starts "dating" Wyatt or even having dinner up at her mom's with Liam and the kids, that her booty call is not invited to. I mean, does anyone really ask booty call they keep on retainer to come to the family outings? LOL
Wow. That would be cold and callous and Thomas would be really really really desperate to go along with that.
Well, it IS Thomas, so really, really desperate fits.
I didn't believe Hope
Liz , 8/25/2023, 4:26PM (252 days ago) @lynnsmom
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
If Hope asks Tom to be her booty call on-demand, and he goes along with it....that might be a test she is giving him....if he can handle just being her boy toy Tom-Tom, and nothing more, and not lose his mind over it if she goes out with someone else, then he will have passed the test....he would truly be a changed man. LOLMy guess is, he would fail...especially if he and Hope are hitting the sheets and she starts "dating" Wyatt or even having dinner up at her mom's with Liam and the kids, that her booty call is not invited to. I mean, does anyone really ask booty call they keep on retainer to come to the family outings? LOL
Wow. That would be cold and callous and Thomas would be really really really desperate to go along with that.
Well, it IS Thomas, so really, really desperate fits.
Very good point. 
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
If Hope asks Tom to be her booty call on-demand, and he goes along with it....that might be a test she is giving him....if he can handle just being her boy toy Tom-Tom, and nothing more, and not lose his mind over it if she goes out with someone else, then he will have passed the test....he would truly be a changed man. LOLMy guess is, he would fail...especially if he and Hope are hitting the sheets and she starts "dating" Wyatt or even having dinner up at her mom's with Liam and the kids, that her booty call is not invited to. I mean, does anyone really ask booty call they keep on retainer to come to the family outings? LOL
Well, I guess they do if they are actually part of the family! 
I didn't believe Hope
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
Agree!
Basically she knows she messed up. She knows who she loves but that person said he is done.
She is making her mistake worse by getting with Thomas. Hope is Brooke
basically.
I didn't believe Hope
Liz , 8/25/2023, 3:42PM (252 days ago) @dxdobson- one person liked this
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I disagree completely. Hope was honest, she told the truth and asked for forgiveness. She doesn't love Thomas. But if she wants to use and abuse him, that will be okay. I hate it because he is an evil child abusing murdering stalker, but I can't change the writing. I do know what I watched and that is a Hope that loves her husband and knows she made big mistakes.
Agree!
Basically she knows she messed up. She knows who she loves but that person said he is done.
She is making her mistake worse by getting with Thomas. Hope is Brooke
basically.
Oh, no, please don't give Hope any excuses to blame Brooke again. Bite your tongue!
I didn't believe Hope
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
Hope felt pressure to reunite for Beth's sake, but she has felt pressure for YEARS to unite with Thomas for Douglas' sake. If she wanted Thomas so bad, she should have used the Douglas card. She didn't. That says a lot.
I didn't believe Hope
Sammy , 8/25/2023, 3:44PM (252 days ago) @fan87- 2 people liked this
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
Exactly. I think Hope is going to relieved now. She was told and made believe she had to love and want Liam. Now she has be released from that trap and can move on Good for Hope
I didn't believe Hope
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
Exactly. I think Hope is going to relieved now. She was told and made believe she had to love and want Liam. Now she has be released from that trap and can move on Good for Hope
Yes whatever that is for Hope she can finally move on.
I didn't believe Hope
Lizzy54 , Austria, 8/25/2023, 3:44PM (252 days ago) @fan87- 2 people liked this
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
He wants Steffy and only Steffy since he is quite willing to drop Hope like a hot potato. Well Liam you are in for a rude awakening. Steffy wants Finn, not you.
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
He wants Steffy and only Steffy since he is quite willing to drop Hope like a hot potato. Well Liam you are in for a rude awakening. Steffy wants Finn, not you.
She has already told him that but I still don’t buy it.
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
He wants Steffy and only Steffy since he is quite willing to drop Hope like a hot potato. Well Liam you are in for a rude awakening. Steffy wants Finn, not you.
I agree and can’t wait to see Liam ALONE!
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
Or she will want him back even more and be full of regrets.
Especially when he moves on to someone else.
If you judge her history it will be the latter.
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
Or she will want him back even more and be full of regrets.
Especially when he moves on to someone else.
If you judge her history it will be the latter.
Maybe she will respect herself enough to let him go and tell her mom and brother to shut up!
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
Or she will want him back even more and be full of regrets.
Especially when he moves on to someone else.
If you judge her history it will be the latter.
Or maybe Liam will be all alone when Steffy goes back to Finn and he has to watch Hope move on with Thomas.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
Or she will want him back even more and be full of regrets.
Especially when he moves on to someone else.
If you judge her history it will be the latter.
Or maybe Liam will be all alone when Steffy goes back to Finn and he has to watch Hope move on with Thomas.
That’s fine he is alone now by his choice so nothing will change.
He had no hand in Steffy not being with Finn and has no reason to believe that she won’t return to him.
And if Hope moves on with Thomas he will understand he made the right decision because her attempt to reunite with him and telling him she loves him are simply words with no meaning behind them.
Him being alone for awhile is no big deal it won’t last that long no one on this show stays alone for long if they are front burner character’s and Liam is that.
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
Or she will want him back even more and be full of regrets.
Especially when he moves on to someone else.
If you judge her history it will be the latter.
Or maybe Liam will be all alone when Steffy goes back to Finn and he has to watch Hope move on with Thomas.
That’s fine he is alone now by his choice so nothing will change.
He had no hand in Steffy not being with Finn and has no reason to believe that she won’t return to him.
And if Hope moves on with Thomas he will understand he made the right decision because her attempt to reunite with him and telling him she loves him are simply words with no meaning behind them.
Him being alone for awhile is no big deal it won’t last that long no one on this show stays alone for long if they are front burner character’s and Liam is that.
Liam does have a reason to believe Steffy won't return to him. She's a married woman. And she's already told him she isn't going to leave Finn for him.
His being alone for once will be a big deal, IMO. Hopefully it will give him something to think about. It could be growth for Liam if he has to ask himself how he wound up with neither woman.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
I didn't believe Hope
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
Or she will want him back even more and be full of regrets.
Especially when he moves on to someone else.
If you judge her history it will be the latter.
Or maybe Liam will be all alone when Steffy goes back to Finn and he has to watch Hope move on with Thomas.
That’s fine he is alone now by his choice so nothing will change.
He had no hand in Steffy not being with Finn and has no reason to believe that she won’t return to him.
And if Hope moves on with Thomas he will understand he made the right decision because her attempt to reunite with him and telling him she loves him are simply words with no meaning behind them.
Him being alone for awhile is no big deal it won’t last that long no one on this show stays alone for long if they are front burner character’s and Liam is that.
Liam does have a reason to believe Steffy won't return to him. She's a married woman. And she's already told him she isn't going to leave Finn for him.His being alone for once will be a big deal, IMO. Hopefully it will give him something to think about. It could be growth for Liam if he has to ask himself how he wound up with neither woman.
I meant he has no reason to believe she won't return to Finn as boring as they are.
And Liam has been without both women before for years in fact.
Either Liam will end up with one of them or he will get a brand new love interest either way one or both of these women will wonder why he is not with them they both lost there tug of war they were never innocent victims.
Hope felt pressure and was afraid of a life without Liam. Now it’s clear there is no future with him and she can move forward with whatever or whoever is next.
I think Hope really believed Liam would want to give it a try because he told her he didn´t file the divorce papers. She thought he decided he didn´t want a divorce anymore.
Then she found out he still did (because I assume that he wouldn´t want to not forgive her but stay married) and she felt taken in by him.
I agree that she can move forward now the way she wants, as Liam told her he is not a 1-woman-man, meaning he wants Steffy in his life.
I agree it was definitely what she needed to hear to really close the chapter.
Or she will want him back even more and be full of regrets.
Especially when he moves on to someone else.
If you judge her history it will be the latter.
Or maybe Liam will be all alone when Steffy goes back to Finn and he has to watch Hope move on with Thomas.
That’s fine he is alone now by his choice so nothing will change.
He had no hand in Steffy not being with Finn and has no reason to believe that she won’t return to him.
And if Hope moves on with Thomas he will understand he made the right decision because her attempt to reunite with him and telling him she loves him are simply words with no meaning behind them.
Him being alone for awhile is no big deal it won’t last that long no one on this show stays alone for long if they are front burner character’s and Liam is that.
Liam does have a reason to believe Steffy won't return to him. She's a married woman. And she's already told him she isn't going to leave Finn for him.His being alone for once will be a big deal, IMO. Hopefully it will give him something to think about. It could be growth for Liam if he has to ask himself how he wound up with neither woman.
I meant he has no reason to believe she won't return to Finn as boring as they are.
And Liam has been without both women before for years in fact.
Either Liam will end up with one of them or he will get a brand new love interest either way one or both of these women will wonder why he is not with them they both lost there tug of war they were never innocent victims.
Oh, I see. My bad. 
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
I didn't believe Hope
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
If she's in love with Thomas, she has a funny way of showing it. She just told him their little lust fest is over. Looks to me, she had her sexual fantasy and now that she scratched her itch, she's over it. Don't see her fantasizing about Thomas anymore. Not to mention, she had so many months now to use the L word on Thomas, but she never did..despite the fact Thomas has repeatedly told her that he loves her, but she never say it back to him. IMO, whatever her feelings are for Thomas was all shallow lust.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
I didn't believe Hope
Liz , 8/25/2023, 3:27PM (252 days ago) @QueenSteph- one person liked this
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I haven't believed Hope for years.
I didn't believe Hope
pspcindy , 8/25/2023, 4:11PM (252 days ago) @QueenSteph- one person liked this
I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
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I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
Agree. I think it's clear she has feelings for Thomas. Now we'll see where it goes.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
I didn't believe Hope
Sammy , 8/25/2023, 4:58PM (252 days ago) @pspcindy
I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
Great post 
I didn't believe Hope
I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
Great post
Ditto
I didn't believe Hope
I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
She has feelings for him that's for sure, but it's all lust is what I saw..even in her fantasies, it was all sexual, physical. She had so many opportunities in the last several months to tell him that she loves him or that she's in love with him, but not ONCE did she use the L word to him..even when he repeatedly told her that he loves her, but she never responded with the L word.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
I didn't believe Hope
I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
She has feelings for him that's for sure, but it's all lust is what I saw..even in her fantasies, it was all sexual, physical. She had so many opportunities in the last several months to tell him that she loves him or that she's in love with him, but not ONCE did she use the L word to him..even when he repeatedly told her that he loves her, but she never responded with the L word.
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Good points
I just always thought would never sex anyone without love
She seemed like a better person in that way to me
I didn't believe Hope
I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
She has feelings for him that's for sure, but it's all lust is what I saw..even in her fantasies, it was all sexual, physical. She had so many opportunities in the last several months to tell him that she loves him or that she's in love with him, but not ONCE did she use the L word to him..even when he repeatedly told her that he loves her, but she never responded with the L word.
True
Good points
I just always thought would never sex anyone without love
She seemed like a better person in that way to me
She was NOT this way before..the show did a total character assassination on Hope in this story. IMO. Ugh!
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
I didn't believe Hope
I think Liam and Brooke gave Hope a lot of food for thought. And that thinking made her try to do the right thing. But it seemed to me that she does have feelings for Thomas regardless. It is yet to be determined how deep those feelings are.
She has feelings for him that's for sure, but it's all lust is what I saw..even in her fantasies, it was all sexual, physical. She had so many opportunities in the last several months to tell him that she loves him or that she's in love with him, but not ONCE did she use the L word to him..even when he repeatedly told her that he loves her, but she never responded with the L word.
True
Good points
I just always thought would never sex anyone without love
She seemed like a better person in that way to me
She was NOT this way before..the show did a total character assassination on Hope in this story. IMO. Ugh!
They did a number on her all right
I didn't believe Hope
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
She needs independent from her brain washing mommy
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
She needs independent from her brain washing mommy
No one brainwashed Hope. It's not even possible. Her head is too hard.
I didn't believe Hope
viennagirl , 8/25/2023, 8:00PM (251 days ago) @QueenSteph
When she told Liam that she lost her way and all that, it sounded exactly like Brooke's words. I didn't buy it. It was like she caved and decided to try Brooke's wish, even using her words.
Sure, Hope loves Liam. But I don't think she's in love with him anymore. The butterflies in her stomach come to life when she's around Thomas. She would probably go for it if not everyone was so much against it.
I believe Hope's words because even when Hope was in bed with Thomas, we had Hope too wondering if something was wrong with her and how she had been reacting without really thinking,
how it felt so good (having sex with Thomas) that it had to be right, hadn't it? Then again talking about how her feelings for Thomas had terrified her but that she now kinda understands her mother and how Brooke fell for the bad guys and followed her heart.
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Thomas: What– what are we doing?
Hope: I… I don’t know. I– I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know what I’m doing because I guess I’m not thinking I’m just destroying my marriage and my family, right? Because something’s wrong with me.
(July 10)
Hope: It was amazing. You are amazing.
[ Hope chuckling ] This is so not like me. Oh, my gosh, thomas. You know, when I first started having feelings for you, it’s just terrified me. And not because of how you’re probably thinking. It’s more because I just didn’t understand it. And so I blamed work, blamed stress, I– I blamed my mom and her history and… her past mistakes and relationships.
Thomas: Do you feel like you’re making a mistake?
Hope: I hate that I hurt liam. And I hate that I hurt my family. I hate that. But how can this be a mistake when what we shared feels so right? I mean, it’s like how when we design and when we create together and you just are able to finish my sentences. It’s like you know what I’m thinking before I even do. You know what I want before I even know that I need it.
Thomas: I just drew thinking about you, your– your boldness, your drama, your sexiness. All of it I just… it was all just you. Every piece.
Hope: Something so beautiful, it just… it can’t be wrong. This has to be right.
(July 11)
Hope: I’ve never really known this part of me. And on some level, I guess, it scares me.
Thomas: Being with me?
Hope: No. It’s just what’s going on inside of me. It’s almost like something has been unleashed. But it feels… strong. Powerful.
Thomas: Yeah, strong and powerful sound good.
[ Hope chuckling ]Hope: Who knows? Maybe, this is what my mom was talking about all those years, you know, following her heart. Maybe, this is what it feels like. I just know that, um… it took a lot to admit that… I’ve been thinking about you in this way for a while now, and I– I knew it was wrong. I know it’S… this is wrong, but I just… I had to give in.
Hope: You know, I meant what I said. That I’ve never experienced anything like this. This feeling. It’s just… I don’t know, maybe it is because we’re doing something wrong. I mean, I am technically a married woman and yet… I don’t feel ashamed. I mean how could I? What we shared was so… passionate. Was so incredible. But before I– I get myself in any more trouble than I am… I should probably go.
Thomas: Okay. Look, um… before you do though, I… I have a question and I want you to be honest. Is this… you and me, something you can actually handle? Tell me the truth.
Hope: Thomas… you’ve unlocked something in me and I have never felt more alive and I want to keep exploring that with you, but I also need to figure out what my next steps are going to be. So, until I get that figured out, can we just… can we keep this between us?
(July 13)
Hope: I’m not the one that gave up on my marriage, mom! That was liam! And sure, maybe this is moving too fast with thomas, maybe it’s– maybe it is wrong, maybe it is scandalous, but it was also beautiful and passionate and romantic and if anyone should be able to understand it, it should be you.
Hope: I didn’t plan any of this. I never thought for a minute that I could be with a man like this while I’m still married to another. I mean, how could I possibly, right? That’s not who I am.
Hope: Yeah. Little miss hope logan. Too good to do something so thoughtless. I mean, how could I possibly? But I hate to break it to you, mom, what thomas and i shared was beautiful. And I have never felt this way before. And I am following my heart just like you did all those years ago and I am not saying that to blame you, mom. I don’t blame you for any of this. If anything, it just makes me feel even worse about the way that I attacked you for your past. Saying that I never wanted to be like you. Well maybe, I was wrong.
(July 14)