What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for? (General)
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
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He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
takerkid 
, 7/18/2023, 12:20AM (286 days ago) @dxdobson
Married Steffy because Hope wouldn't sleep with him. Married Steffy a second time. He's put her through the ringer.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Sammy , 7/18/2023, 12:21AM (286 days ago) @takerkid
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Lizzy54 , Austria, 7/18/2023, 1:36AM (286 days ago) @takerkid- one person liked this
edited by Lizzy54, 7/18/2023, 1:44AM
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman. 
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 9:44AM (286 days ago) @Lizzy54
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman.
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
He was single. He can marry anyone he wants if he was single.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Lizzy54 , Austria, 7/18/2023, 10:04AM (286 days ago) @Tiqui1999
Of course he can. It just showed he didn´t care who he married as long as it was some pretty woman. Hope (sitting in the gondola) didn´t show up? Oh, why not take Steffy instead...
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 10:10AM (286 days ago) @Lizzy54
Of course e can. It just showed he didn´t care who he married as long as it was some pretty woman. Hope (sitting in the gondola) didn´t show up? Oh, why not take Steffy instead...
But that's not worse than what Hope is doing. A single man marrying who he wants is not worse than a married woman cheating. The Poster asked what Liam did that was "Worse" things she had to forgive him for. And frankly, she's the one who left her rings there. So that was her fault.
we can go on to the next thing because like the OP said, what things are "Worse" that she had to forgive him for? She chased Liam down because she made the mistake that time. When did she forgive him for marrying Steffy after she dumped him? What episode was that?
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Almost knocking up another woman while supposedly happily married to another woman is FAR worse than a public kiss in Rome.
He almost had another child, IMVHO that is sickening.
Just like if Hope got pregnant by Thomas in Rome, it would have been bad.
The only thing that makes this Thope thing currently better than almost Steam baby, is the fact that both Liam and Hope want the divorce and Liam moved out.
IMHO there is nothing worse than cheating on your spouse and getting another person pregnant.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 11:26AM (286 days ago) @BBDOOLfan
Almost knocking up another woman while supposedly happily married to another woman is FAR worse than a public kiss in Rome.
He almost had another child, IMVHO that is sickening.
Just like if Hope got pregnant by Thomas in Rome, it would have been bad.
The only thing that makes this Thope thing currently better than almost Steam baby, is the fact that both Liam and Hope want the divorce and Liam moved out.
IMHO there is nothing worse than cheating on your spouse and getting another person pregnant.
I'm not disputing that, but Hope said she forgave him MANY TIMES for WORSE things, and that's what this thread is asking. You have brought up ONE THING. Not many and the one thing you brought up, the OP already listed. She is asking WHAT ELSE.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman.
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
Hope actually called him out on that and told him that he thinks she and Steffy are interchangeable and that's why he didn't care who he married. Someone posted that scene here a few days ago.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 10:34AM (286 days ago) @Dreamgirl
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman.
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
Hope actually called him out on that and told him that he thinks she and Steffy are interchangeable and that's why he didn't care who he married. Someone posted that scene here a few days ago.
But he was single and Hope had left him. That's on her. Should he have married Steffy? Hell, no. But Hope hurt him first by walking out on him without even knowing what was going on. And she's at fault for that. She knew it because she chased him to Aspen.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman.
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
Hope actually called him out on that and told him that he thinks she and Steffy are interchangeable and that's why he didn't care who he married. Someone posted that scene here a few days ago.
But he was single and Hope had left him. That's on her. Should he have married Steffy? Hell, no. But Hope hurt him first by walking out on him without even knowing what was going on. And she's at fault for that. She knew it because she chased him to Aspen.
I was talking about the Italy wedding. Hope hadn't left him at the time, she was late because of Bill.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 10:54AM (286 days ago) @Dreamgirl
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman.
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
Hope actually called him out on that and told him that he thinks she and Steffy are interchangeable and that's why he didn't care who he married. Someone posted that scene here a few days ago.
But he was single and Hope had left him. That's on her. Should he have married Steffy? Hell, no. But Hope hurt him first by walking out on him without even knowing what was going on. And she's at fault for that. She knew it because she chased him to Aspen.
I was talking about the Italy wedding. Hope hadn't left him at the time, she was late because of Bill.
Oh, I thought you meant Ajax because you said he didn't care who he married. Sorry.
But he still was single in Italy.......
I used to call what he did in Italy cheating, but over the years, a lot of people have said that it's not cheating if they aren't married. I was told that every single time I opened my mouth to call boyfriends and fiance's cheaters.
Was I right along? Or just when the situation fits? I'm confused now.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman.
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
Hope actually called him out on that and told him that he thinks she and Steffy are interchangeable and that's why he didn't care who he married. Someone posted that scene here a few days ago.
But he was single and Hope had left him. That's on her. Should he have married Steffy? Hell, no. But Hope hurt him first by walking out on him without even knowing what was going on. And she's at fault for that. She knew it because she chased him to Aspen.
I was talking about the Italy wedding. Hope hadn't left him at the time, she was late because of Bill.
Oh, I thought you meant Ajax because you said he didn't care who he married. Sorry.But he still was single in Italy.......
I used to call what he did in Italy cheating, but over the years, a lot of people have said that it's not cheating if they aren't married. I was told that every single time I opened my mouth to call boyfriends and fiance's cheaters.
Was I right along? Or just when the situation fits? I'm confused now.
I think it's cheating when you're committed. Doesn't matter if you're married, engaged or dating. As long as you're committed, in my opinion it's cheating. Of course it could be argued that Liam read the fake letter from Hope and thought she left him so in his mind it wasn't cheating, but he has a pattern of doing that without first talking to Hope. One would think he'd have learnt his lesson after being wrong about Hope letting him down so many times.
The interchangeable comment from Hope was after the Italy wedding. She's the one who said he didn't care who he married because he was there to marry Hope, then rolled around the bed with Steffy and made her all those promises, then went right back to marrying Hope when she did turn up after locking Steffy in the closet/bathroom.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 11:14AM (286 days ago) @Dreamgirl- one person liked this
Actually put Hope´s ring on Steffy´s finger...he could as well have said: I don´t care whoever I marry, as long as it is a woman. Same at Aspen soon after, he waited for Hope to arrive but Bill locked Hope in a gondola to help Steffy get Liam and Liam, who would have thought, again married not the one he was waiting for but just the one who turned up while Hope had to watch from the gondola.
He probably would have married any woman.
Next wedding, Liam spent the night dancing and partying with Steffy and arrived for the ceremony too late, with dyed hair and a tattoo.
Next try, in Italy, Hope was late (because of Bill´s shenanigans) andLiam made out with Steffy in the hotel, planning to elope with her, but when Hope knocked he put Steffy in the bathroom and married Hope. Again a case of I don´t care who will be my wife.
Hope actually called him out on that and told him that he thinks she and Steffy are interchangeable and that's why he didn't care who he married. Someone posted that scene here a few days ago.
But he was single and Hope had left him. That's on her. Should he have married Steffy? Hell, no. But Hope hurt him first by walking out on him without even knowing what was going on. And she's at fault for that. She knew it because she chased him to Aspen.
I was talking about the Italy wedding. Hope hadn't left him at the time, she was late because of Bill.
Oh, I thought you meant Ajax because you said he didn't care who he married. Sorry.But he still was single in Italy.......
I used to call what he did in Italy cheating, but over the years, a lot of people have said that it's not cheating if they aren't married. I was told that every single time I opened my mouth to call boyfriends and fiance's cheaters.
Was I right along? Or just when the situation fits? I'm confused now.
I think it's cheating when you're committed. Doesn't matter if you're married, engaged or dating. As long as you're committed, in my opinion it's cheating. Of course it could be argued that Liam read the fake letter from Hope and thought she left him so in his mind it wasn't cheating, but he has a pattern of doing that without first talking to Hope. One would think he'd have learnt his lesson after being wrong about Hope letting him down so many times.The interchangeable comment from Hope was after the Italy wedding. She's the one who said he didn't care who he married because he was there to marry Hope, then rolled around the bed with Steffy and made her all those promises, then went right back to marrying Hope when she did turn up after locking Steffy in the closet/bathroom.
I agree about the committed, but the question will come in -- are you allowed to just stop being committed when you feel like it?
I can't remember what that note from "Hope" said now, but Liam also knows that Hope has a pattern herself of running out on him. She is the one who ran out on him because she saw him and Steffy in that Limo but didn't talk to him first about what was going on. I can't remember when else he assumed something on her between that time and the Italy wedding to develop a pattern because he was married to Steffy for a long stretch after that and then there was a series of failed weddings. So what were the many times that happened before Italy? OH, do you mean when Tawny and Amber were texting them?
The writers have been careful in the past to make sure what Liam did or what Hope did was always based on mistakes and misunderstandings. Because that gave the couple plausibility and staying power. So it's kind of hard for me to go back now and say Liam did "worse" things than Hope that she's forgiven him for because I just don't see it. He did things, but not "worse" than this months of gaslightings, blaming, and lusting behind his back and then having an emotional affair in Rome that he planned to bury while married and just because he couldn't resist, not because of any manipulation.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 9:44AM (286 days ago) @takerkid
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 10:13AM (286 days ago) @takerkid
Married Steffy because Hope wouldn't sleep with him. Married Steffy a second time. He's put her through the ringer.
Hope did not have to forgive Liam for marrying Steffy. Hope took off her rings and left him. He was free to do what he wanted.
The second time, Hope TOLD HIM to marry Steffy.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Sammy , 7/18/2023, 12:21AM (286 days ago) @dxdobson
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?
He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Drangonfly , 7/18/2023, 9:34AM (286 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
Liam didn't make a sex video. He made a video montage of his and Steffy's relationship because she asked him to. She wanted a memory of the time she spent with a man who was about to marry someone else. And, yes, Liam was stupid to make it.
--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
Liam didn't make a sex video. He made a video montage of his and Steffy's relationship because she asked him to. She wanted a memory of the time she spent with a man who was about to marry someone else. And, yes, Liam was stupid to make it.
He accidentally recorded him and Steffy rolling around on the bed before his Italy wedding to Hope. I think his promises to Steffy were also recorded on there but I'm not sure about that. And then when Hope agreed to a do over wedding the doofus went out partying with Steffy the night before and got drunk while Hope was taking care of Stephanie. Liam was absolutely disgusting at that time and I can't understand why those two still wanted him.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Sammy , 7/18/2023, 10:35AM (286 days ago) @Dreamgirl
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
Liam didn't make a sex video. He made a video montage of his and Steffy's relationship because she asked him to. She wanted a memory of the time she spent with a man who was about to marry someone else. And, yes, Liam was stupid to make it.
He accidentally recorded him and Steffy rolling around on the bed before his Italy wedding to Hope. I think his promises to Steffy were also recorded on there but I'm not sure about that. And then when Hope agreed to a do over wedding the doofus went out partying with Steffy the night before and got drunk while Hope was taking care of Stephanie. Liam was absolutely disgusting at that time and I can't understand why those two still wanted him.
I agree. Liam would never be my pick
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Drangonfly , 7/18/2023, 10:51AM (286 days ago) @Dreamgirl
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
Liam didn't make a sex video. He made a video montage of his and Steffy's relationship because she asked him to. She wanted a memory of the time she spent with a man who was about to marry someone else. And, yes, Liam was stupid to make it.
He accidentally recorded him and Steffy rolling around on the bed before his Italy wedding to Hope. I think his promises to Steffy were also recorded on there but I'm not sure about that. And then when Hope agreed to a do over wedding the doofus went out partying with Steffy the night before and got drunk while Hope was taking care of Stephanie. Liam was absolutely disgusting at that time and I can't understand why those two still wanted him.
Oh, okay. I was mixing it up with the other time a tape of Liam and Steffy ended his and Hope's wedding. 
--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
Liam didn't make a sex video. He made a video montage of his and Steffy's relationship because she asked him to. She wanted a memory of the time she spent with a man who was about to marry someone else. And, yes, Liam was stupid to make it.
He accidentally recorded him and Steffy rolling around on the bed before his Italy wedding to Hope. I think his promises to Steffy were also recorded on there but I'm not sure about that. And then when Hope agreed to a do over wedding the doofus went out partying with Steffy the night before and got drunk while Hope was taking care of Stephanie. Liam was absolutely disgusting at that time and I can't understand why those two still wanted him.
Oh, okay. I was mixing it up with the other time a tape of Liam and Steffy ended his and Hope's wedding.
I can't blame you for that He's done so many stupid things at so many different times it's hard to keep them all straight 
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Drangonfly , 7/18/2023, 10:58AM (286 days ago) @Dreamgirl
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
Liam didn't make a sex video. He made a video montage of his and Steffy's relationship because she asked him to. She wanted a memory of the time she spent with a man who was about to marry someone else. And, yes, Liam was stupid to make it.
He accidentally recorded him and Steffy rolling around on the bed before his Italy wedding to Hope. I think his promises to Steffy were also recorded on there but I'm not sure about that. And then when Hope agreed to a do over wedding the doofus went out partying with Steffy the night before and got drunk while Hope was taking care of Stephanie. Liam was absolutely disgusting at that time and I can't understand why those two still wanted him.
Oh, okay. I was mixing it up with the other time a tape of Liam and Steffy ended his and Hope's wedding.
I can't blame you for that
He's made some bonehead moves, that's for sure. 
--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
Oh no! Liam married his then girlfriend so she wouldn't be deported and his side piece got mad and slapped him violently for it because she was begging him to dump his girlfriend (I would say the stupid one was Steffy).
And there was no sex video. Leffy were making out because Bill sent his little call girl to Liam's room and then lied to Liam that Hope left the country and him, and had his little other call girl secretary forge a letter from Hope saying she left him. Bill urged Liam to run away with his call girl side piece, but once Liam knew the truth, he still wanted Hope. Steffy never could quite cha cha cha Hope out of Liam's heart.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Stayed out all night with Steffy the night before his wedding to Hope with red or blue hair.
Kissing Steffy in the car another night before Hope and his wedding
Had sex with Steffy when he thought a mannequin was Hope. That was the most stupid
Just to name a few
Did he marry someone to keep her in USA?He stupidity made a sex video of him and steffy and she played it..he made it by mistake I wonder if Hope kept it?
He married Ivy to keep her in the USA. I forgot about the video. I think it was Hope that Liam made a video highlighting their life and sent a copy to Steffy. Steffy wanted him to make her a similar video of their life so Dumb Dumb did it and Hope found out.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Does marrying steffy couple of times count
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Kammie , 7/18/2023, 9:06AM (286 days ago) @dxdobson- one person liked this
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
> He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
And the idiots had this romp on video tape and Hope got to see them in all their glory.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 9:39AM (286 days ago) @dxdobson
He was kissing and necking with Steffy behind his fiancé’s back.
He was rolling around the bed with Steffy when they were going to get married.
Had sex with Steffy knowing Hope ws out of her mind with grief.
Had sex with Steffy thinking Hope was kissing Thomas.
Liam and Hope were not married when these first two things happened, and I don't know how many times I heard, "Well, she's single" when it came to incidences like this.
And Liam was also single when he had drugged sex with Steffy. I think he had just moved in over there because Hope had left him to marry Thomas. If they hadn't signed papers, well, Hope isn't considered cheating right now and now papers are signed.
So that just leave the mannequin revenge sex.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
I’m confused about the out of her mind with grief. I thought Hope intentionally left Liam and she married Thomas. In any event, once Liam succumbed to Steffy, Hope should have moved on. There’s too much at play for Hope including her frustration with Steffy over the years.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Not as much as people say I could make a comparable list of times he forgave Hope for dumping him when he didn't deserve it.
Dumped Him and annulled there marriage for no good reason ignoring his grief for his dead daughter.
Ran off with his brother on his wedding day because of a hug with Steffy after he rejected her when she came back to tell him that she could have kids after she had the miscarriage.
Married his brother who she didn't love because he didn't arrive at the correct time like it was some kind of contest she is so pathetic.
Lots of kisses while she was engaged or in a relationship with Liam with Oliver, Wyatt and psycho Tom
She is far from innocent.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Sammy , 7/18/2023, 1:14AM (286 days ago) @Amsdre
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Not as much as people say I could make a comparable list of times he forgave Hope for dumping him when he didn't deserve it.Dumped Him and annulled there marriage for no good reason ignoring his grief for his dead daughter.
Ran off with his brother on his wedding day because of a hug with Steffy after he rejected her when she came back to tell him that she could have kids after she had the miscarriage.
Married his brother who she didn't love because he didn't arrive at the correct time like it was some kind of contest she is so pathetic.
Lots of kisses while she was engaged or in a relationship with Liam with Oliver, Wyatt and psycho Tom
She is far from innocent.
Nope Liam a slime ball
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
All true Hope is pathetic she never really cared about Liam's point of view on anything.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Not as much as people say I could make a comparable list of times he forgave Hope for dumping him when he didn't deserve it.Dumped Him and annulled there marriage for no good reason ignoring his grief for his dead daughter.
Ran off with his brother on his wedding day because of a hug with Steffy after he rejected her when she came back to tell him that she could have kids after she had the miscarriage.
Married his brother who she didn't love because he didn't arrive at the correct time like it was some kind of contest she is so pathetic.
Lots of kisses while she was engaged or in a relationship with Liam with Oliver, Wyatt and psycho Tom
She is far from innocent.
Nope Liam a slime ball
Sorry, Tom has a firm hold on that title. Creeper, slug, slimeball, wacko etc. You name it. If it is disgusting, it's Tom.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Kammie , 7/18/2023, 10:06AM (286 days ago) @jammer
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Sammy , 7/18/2023, 11:28AM (286 days ago) @jammer
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Not as much as people say I could make a comparable list of times he forgave Hope for dumping him when he didn't deserve it.Dumped Him and annulled there marriage for no good reason ignoring his grief for his dead daughter.
Ran off with his brother on his wedding day because of a hug with Steffy after he rejected her when she came back to tell him that she could have kids after she had the miscarriage.
Married his brother who she didn't love because he didn't arrive at the correct time like it was some kind of contest she is so pathetic.
Lots of kisses while she was engaged or in a relationship with Liam with Oliver, Wyatt and psycho Tom
She is far from innocent.
Nope Liam a slime ball
Sorry, Tom has a firm hold on that title. Creeper, slug, slimeball, wacko etc. You name it. If it is disgusting, it's Tom.
Nope. My thoughts of Liam has nothing to do with Thomas. He wasn’t even the subject. So I don’t see your point since I was speaking of Liam
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Lizzy54 , Austria, 7/18/2023, 1:42AM (286 days ago) @Amsdre- 2 people liked this
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Not as much as people say I could make a comparable list of times he forgave Hope for dumping him when he didn't deserve it.Dumped Him and annulled there marriage for no good reason ignoring his grief for his dead daughter.
Ran off with his brother on his wedding day because of a hug with Steffy after he rejected her when she came back to tell him that she could have kids after she had the miscarriage.
Married his brother who she didn't love because he didn't arrive at the correct time like it was some kind of contest she is so pathetic.
Lots of kisses while she was engaged or in a relationship with Liam with Oliver, Wyatt and psycho Tom
She is far from innocent.
It was not only HIS grief for HIS daughter, Hope was half crazy from grief and that´s why she ended the marriage because she thought Liam would be happier with Steffy and Kelly while she would be a mother to motherless Douglas.
She was not herself at the time.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Just one more of her endless excuses she never cared about how Liam felt about anything he wanted to stay married and get thru there grief together but as usual she thru him away not giving him any choice in the situation she said she didn't want to even think about adopting a child with Liam if she didn't ant to get pregnant but would throw away there marriage and marry psycho Tom to be a mother to Caroline's son.
That is when Liam should have been done with her she should been able to see that she was making him lose the wife he loved along with the child they lost for no good reason.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Lizzy54 , Austria, 7/18/2023, 2:14AM (286 days ago) @Amsdre- one person liked this
At that time Hope was half crazy from grief and whatever she did was not to hurt Liam but help her find a reason for sending Liam to Steffy and staying with Douglas. She didn´t think "healthy" at that time.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 11:15AM (286 days ago) @Lizzy54
At that time Hope was half crazy from grief and whatever she did was not to hurt Liam but help her find a reason for sending Liam to Steffy and staying with Douglas. She didn´t think "healthy" at that time.
Hope claims what she did this time was not to hurt Liam, either. But she's selfish and it does indeed hurt him. Hope gets this excuse of not being in her right mind, but Liam is not afforded the same excuse for drugged sex with Steffy in the same time period, even though he can add being drugged to the grief.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
At that time Hope was half crazy from grief and whatever she did was not to hurt Liam but help her find a reason for sending Liam to Steffy and staying with Douglas. She didn´t think "healthy" at that time.
Hope claims what she did this time was not to hurt Liam, either. But she's selfish and it does indeed hurt him. Hope gets this excuse of not being in her right mind, but Liam is not afforded the same excuse for drugged sex with Steffy in the same time period, even though he can add being drugged to the grief.
I partly agree, however, no one knows that Thomas drugged Liam still. And for the record, I don't blame Liam for that even without the drugging because Hope had annulled their marriage.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 11:25AM (286 days ago) @lynnsmom
At that time Hope was half crazy from grief and whatever she did was not to hurt Liam but help her find a reason for sending Liam to Steffy and staying with Douglas. She didn´t think "healthy" at that time.
Hope claims what she did this time was not to hurt Liam, either. But she's selfish and it does indeed hurt him. Hope gets this excuse of not being in her right mind, but Liam is not afforded the same excuse for drugged sex with Steffy in the same time period, even though he can add being drugged to the grief.
I partly agree, however, no one knows that Thomas drugged Liam still. And for the record, I don't blame Liam for that even without the drugging because Hope had annulled their marriage.
But I think it's on the list here in this thread as a "worse" thing Liam did to Hope, isn't it? someone listed it as that here, which is why I'm talking about it. But I agree that it's not because, just like you said, Lope was not together.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Not as much as people say I could make a comparable list of times he forgave Hope for dumping him when he didn't deserve it.Dumped Him and annulled there marriage for no good reason ignoring his grief for his dead daughter.
Ran off with his brother on his wedding day because of a hug with Steffy after he rejected her when she came back to tell him that she could have kids after she had the miscarriage.
Married his brother who she didn't love because he didn't arrive at the correct time like it was some kind of contest she is so pathetic.
Lots of kisses while she was engaged or in a relationship with Liam with Oliver, Wyatt and psycho Tom
She is far from innocent.
Exactly. Not to mention that the great majority of these things go back a decade or more. Are we to think Hope kept a tally of the things she “forgave” Liam for to pull out in case she decided she wanted to have sex with someone else one day? Shouldn’t she have just left him after the mannequin thing or not wormed her way back and instead let him reunite with Steffy after the Bill ONS in the first place?
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 10:20AM (286 days ago) @GLFan
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Not as much as people say I could make a comparable list of times he forgave Hope for dumping him when he didn't deserve it.Dumped Him and annulled there marriage for no good reason ignoring his grief for his dead daughter.
Ran off with his brother on his wedding day because of a hug with Steffy after he rejected her when she came back to tell him that she could have kids after she had the miscarriage.
Married his brother who she didn't love because he didn't arrive at the correct time like it was some kind of contest she is so pathetic.
Lots of kisses while she was engaged or in a relationship with Liam with Oliver, Wyatt and psycho Tom
She is far from innocent.
Exactly. Not to mention that the great majority of these things go back a decade or more. Are we to think Hope kept a tally of the things she “forgave” Liam for to pull out in case she decided she wanted to have sex with someone else one day? Shouldn’t she have just left him after the mannequin thing or not wormed her way back and instead let him reunite with Steffy after the Bill ONS in the first place?
Your point is taken. Hope was supposedly recovered and well after her return from Milan. but she jumped back into a supposedly "toxic" cycle? Not only jumped, but participated and fought to get the man back.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
viennagirl , 7/18/2023, 1:36AM (286 days ago) @Belle Bradley- one person liked this
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
When Liam got drunk and had sex with Steffy in 2020 because he had seen Thomas making out with the Hope doll ...- yes, Liam at that time was a married man, Steffy the morning after suggested to her lover that he should go home and talk to his wife.
Hope also forgave Liam in early 2020, when Liam had proposed to her but then ended up sleeping at the cliff house and kissing Steffy, because Hope had refused to give up on co-parenting Douglas.
But Hope at these times never easily forgave Liam.
In 2021 Lope for a while have been separated and Liam had to fight for his marriage because after the paternity SL Hope was tired of waffling Liam.
After the Leffy kiss at the cliff house Hope had to be convinced by Liam AND Steffy that Thomas was to be mainly blamed for that set up and that Liam wants to be married to Hope, Steffy wouldn't again interfere with them.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 9:43AM (286 days ago) @viennagirl
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
When Liam got drunk and had sex with Steffy in 2020 because he had seen Thomas making out with the Hope doll ...- yes, Liam at that time was a married man, Steffy the morning after suggested to her lover that he should go home and talk to his wife.Hope also forgave Liam in early 2020, when Liam had proposed to her but then ended up sleeping at the cliff house and kissing Steffy, because Hope had refused to give up on co-parenting Douglas.
But Hope at these times never easily forgave Liam.
In 2021 Lope for a while have been separated and Liam had to fight for his marriage because after the paternity SL Hope was tired of waffling Liam.
After the Leffy kiss at the cliff house Hope had to be convinced by Liam AND Steffy that Thomas was to be mainly blamed for that set up and that Liam wants to be married to Hope, Steffy wouldn't again interfere with them.
I don't see anything here "Much worse" than what she's done. And the times when they were not married or she'd left him don't count.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Viola, 7/18/2023, 6:17AM (286 days ago) @Belle Bradley- 3 people liked this![[O]](themes/modern/images/score_1.svg "Popular Comment")
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
Had SEX and not only a kiss behind Hope's back. Also there is a waaaaay longer list of betrayal's on Liam's side than Hope's side. I don't have all day and I think I would need all day to count all of Liam's betrayal's. He started by cheating on his fiance with the woman that bullied her. He knew that Steffy publicly humiliated Hope for the whole world to see shortly before he started having an emotional and psychical affair with her. He cheated on Hope, but had the audacity to be angry with her 5 minutes later because he saw her ring on the mantle. It didn't even come to this idiots mind that Hope could have seen him cheating since she was in his house!!! It should be obvious for him that she could see him kissing her biggest enemy. He just gave Hope's warm ring to Steffy and the rest is history...
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Lizzy54 , Austria, 7/18/2023, 6:50AM (286 days ago) @Viola- 2 people liked this
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Kammie , 7/18/2023, 9:14AM (286 days ago) @Belle Bradley- one person liked this
Liam is griping about a kiss and will never get the image out of his head.... Well Liam has a grocery store list of the things he betrayed Hope for..
Well the idiot and his long time mistress, were about to have sex on Lope's wedding day and the idiots had their romp video taped and it was included in the wedding picture dump. Hope got an eyeful of their romp when she was looking through the pictures.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 9:33AM (286 days ago) @Belle Bradley
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
That is the thing. I think Liam and Hope weren't even successfully married ever until she was pregnant with Beth. All this "divided heart" mess was when they were dating. And I always heard it was better to be that way before marriage -- which he was until the mannequin thing.
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
That is the thing. I think Liam and Hope weren't even successfully married ever until she was pregnant with Beth. All this "divided heart" mess was when they were dating. And I always heard it was better to be that way before marriage -- which he was until the mannequin thing.
Liam hung with steffy all the time and he constantly said I will allways love you…..he’s a jerk..I bet he runs there again the creepo
What exactly were the “worse” things Hope forgave Liam for?
Tiqui1999 , 7/18/2023, 9:47AM (286 days ago) @Barbybo
I need a memory-refresh on this one! I think Liam slept with Steffy at one point when he shouldn’t have, but was he married to Hope at the time? What else did he do wrong that she “forgave” him for? Just curious!
That is the thing. I think Liam and Hope weren't even successfully married ever until she was pregnant with Beth. All this "divided heart" mess was when they were dating. And I always heard it was better to be that way before marriage -- which he was until the mannequin thing.
Liam hung with steffy all the time and he constantly said I will allways love you…..he’s a jerk..I bet he runs there again the creepo
None of what you say is "worse" than what Hope did with Thomas all these years. None of it.
