Preach It, Hope! (General)

takerkid @, 7/17/2023, 2:06PM (294 days ago)- 3 people liked this[O]

I literally just stood up in front of my TV and gave a standing ovation after that episode. Hope got her mother good. She read Brooke for filth and hit her with some hard truths. "In the same way Ridge is committed to you" was such a dagger of a line. Just because Brooke wants to spend her life chasing after a and trying to hold onto a man who's in love with two women doesn't mean Hope wants to. 12 years is enough. She wants a man who has eyes for her. I love that she ended things by going and sitting next to Thomas and putting her hand on his thigh. She let Brooke know how she feels, that she's done, done with Liam, and that she is capable of making her own choices. Brava, Hope, brava.

Preach It, Hope!

Barbybo, 7/17/2023, 2:08PM (294 days ago) @takerkid

I literally just stood up in front of my TV and gave a standing ovation after that episode. Hope got her mother good. She read Brooke for filth and hit her with some hard truths. Just because Brooke wants to spend her life chasing after a and trying to hold onto a man who's in love with two women doesn't mean Hope wants to. 12 years is enough. She wants a man who has eyes for her. I love that she ended things by going and sitting next to Thomas and putting her hand on his thigh. She let Brooke know how she feels, that she's done, done with Liam, and that she is capable of making her own choices. Brava, Hope, brava.

About time …Brooke can leave with tail between her legs and lump it…..but Brooke won’t give up she will nag Hope to death

Preach It, Hope!

matisse, 7/17/2023, 3:51PM (294 days ago) @Barbybo

I literally just stood up in front of my TV and gave a standing ovation after that episode. Hope got her mother good. She read Brooke for filth and hit her with some hard truths. Just because Brooke wants to spend her life chasing after a and trying to hold onto a man who's in love with two women doesn't mean Hope wants to. 12 years is enough. She wants a man who has eyes for her. I love that she ended things by going and sitting next to Thomas and putting her hand on his thigh. She let Brooke know how she feels, that she's done, done with Liam, and that she is capable of making her own choices. Brava, Hope, brava.


About time …Brooke can leave with tail between her legs and lump it…..but Brooke won’t give up she will nag Hope to death

That is Hope's mother, who has loved that child completely and protected and defended her at every turn. Why should Brooke leave with her tail between her legs? Why would Hope disrespect her mother to make her leave with her tail between her legs. There is literally only ONE person in the world, maybe 2 that has Hope's best interest completely at heart, for no selfish reason at all, and that is her mother and her father. I have not watched the show yet, but if Hope so much as disrespects her mother one second, then Hope needs to shut up and go put a diaper on and take a nap, because that is how much of an immature child she would be to not show her mother respect. This Hope is not cool, she is not nice, she is not mature. And if she sat there are yelled at her mother that she is with Tom because Liam has a divided heart and if I read it right, she told her mother she will always love Liam....then what does that tell TOM about Hope and her divided heart? If this guy has really changed, then he should get his best running shoes on and say "feet make tracks" because does TOM deserve to be stuck with someone with a divided heart? Hope has already proven to Tom, she has no issue cheating. Something for Tom to think about now.

Preach It, Hope!

DC, 7/17/2023, 2:19PM (294 days ago) @takerkid

I literally just stood up in front of my TV and gave a standing ovation after that episode. Hope got her mother good. She read Brooke for filth and hit her with some hard truths. "In the same way Ridge is committed to you" was such a dagger of a line. Just because Brooke wants to spend her life chasing after a and trying to hold onto a man who's in love with two women doesn't mean Hope wants to. 12 years is enough. She wants a man who has eyes for her. I love that she ended things by going and sitting next to Thomas and putting her hand on his thigh. She let Brooke know how she feels, that she's done, done with Liam, and that she is capable of making her own choices. Brava, Hope, brava.

And what a SERMON!!

Preach It, Hope!

takerkid @, 7/17/2023, 2:35PM (294 days ago) @DC

That was almost Stephanie level verbal jujitsu. She let her have it.

Preach It, Hope!

BBDOOLfan, 7/17/2023, 2:40PM (294 days ago) @takerkid

I am a Brooke fan but when it comes to Lope, she is a giant idiot.

Preach It, Hope!

takerkid @, 7/17/2023, 2:59PM (294 days ago) @BBDOOLfan

That's an understatement lol. Why would any mother want her child to go through what she's been going through for DECADES? She should want better for her daughter.

Preach It, Hope!

matisse, 7/17/2023, 3:54PM (294 days ago) @takerkid

That's an understatement lol. Why would any mother want her child to go through what she's been going through for DECADES? She should want better for her daughter.

In turn why will Ridge or Taylor want Tom to go through what Taylor has been through, in love with someone with a divided heart. If I have read correctly, Hope told her mother she would always love Liam, that means, she will always have a divided heart. Tom should run now and save himself the cost of therapy later. Wyatt can clue him in as to how this is going to end for him.

Preach It, Hope!

Sammy @, 7/17/2023, 4:00PM (294 days ago) @matisse

That's an understatement lol. Why would any mother want her child to go through what she's been going through for DECADES? She should want better for her daughter.


In turn why will Ridge or Taylor want Tom to go through what Taylor has been through, in love with someone with a divided heart. If I have read correctly, Hope told her mother she would always love Liam, that means, she will always have a divided heart. Tom should run now and save himself the cost of therapy later. Wyatt can clue him in as to how this is going to end for him.

I don’t think will have a divided heart. I think Hope is done with Liam. She has no desire to do what her has

Preach It, Hope!

takerkid @, 7/17/2023, 4:34PM (294 days ago) @matisse

People's feelings aren't a light switch. That doesn't change the fact that Hope is fed up and tired of being with a man who thinks he's always got a fallback in his back pocket. I don't think she's gonna be running back to that.

Preach It, Hope!

matisse, 7/17/2023, 5:11PM (294 days ago) @takerkid

People's feelings aren't a light switch. That doesn't change the fact that Hope is fed up and tired of being with a man who thinks he's always got a fallback in his back pocket. I don't think she's gonna be running back to that.

I was talking more about Tom. I have not watched the show yet, but I read the recap and what you guys have posted here, and if what was posted is correct, Hope told her mother she does not want a man with a divided heart, she will always love Liam, she wants her mother not to say anything about her banging Tom today because she is not sure what she is going to do, and if Liam did not have a divided heart, she would not have done what she did. And that Liam always had a back up plan right down to a daughter.....is that about right?

I think Tom should be listening very closely to those words because Hope just admitted, she has a divided heart. That she will always love Liam, again, divided heart. That she now has a back up plan too if things go south with Tom, and she too has a child with her back-up plan. Yes, I know she is talking about wanting better for herself and not being one of three, but because she has a child with Liam, and just admitted she will always love him, she may be asking Tom to be one of three. I am just wondering why it would be OK for Hope to always love Liam, even while with another man, but it was not OK for Liam to love Steffy, while with her? And, Hope has also shown Tom with her words and her diatribe with Brooke, that she has no issue cheating, has no issue keeping it quiet, and has no shame about it. Is this really a woman that Tom would want for his wife, IF Tom truly is a changed and better human being?

How can Tom ever trust Hope? He cannot completely. She is a cheating spouse, and he can justify it and say it just happened, blah, blah, blah, but she is a cheating spouse. And now he knows, she would lie about it, gaslight him about it, and would have no shame about it.

I think Tridge should be very concerned and worried for their son right now. JMO.

I am going to do something that pains me to do, and that is give Tom the benefit of the doubt and say he has changed, that he is healing. So, he does not need a cheater like Hope messing with his head. JMO

Preach It, Hope!

Judx, 7/17/2023, 5:23PM (294 days ago) @matisse

People's feelings aren't a light switch. That doesn't change the fact that Hope is fed up and tired of being with a man who thinks he's always got a fallback in his back pocket. I don't think she's gonna be running back to that.


I was talking more about Tom. I have not watched the show yet, but I read the recap and what you guys have posted here, and if what was posted is correct, Hope told her mother she does not want a man with a divided heart, she will always love Liam, she wants her mother not to say anything about her banging Tom today because she is not sure what she is going to do, and if Liam did not have a divided heart, she would not have done what she did. And that Liam always had a back up plan right down to a daughter.....is that about right?

I think Tom should be listening very closely to those words because Hope just admitted, she has a divided heart. That she will always love Liam, again, divided heart. That she now has a back up plan too if things go south with Tom, and she too has a child with her back-up plan. Yes, I know she is talking about wanting better for herself and not being one of three, but because she has a child with Liam, and just admitted she will always love him, she may be asking Tom to be one of three. I am just wondering why it would be OK for Hope to always love Liam, even while with another man, but it was not OK for Liam to love Steffy, while with her? And, Hope has also shown Tom with her words and her diatribe with Brooke, that she has no issue cheating, has no issue keeping it quiet, and has no shame about it. Is this really a woman that Tom would want for his wife, IF Tom truly is a changed and better human being?

How can Tom ever trust Hope? He cannot completely. She is a cheating spouse, and he can justify it and say it just happened, blah, blah, blah, but she is a cheating spouse. And now he knows, she would lie about it, gaslight him about it, and would have no shame about it.

I think Tridge should be very concerned and worried for their son right now. JMO.

I am going to do something that pains me to do, and that is give Tom the benefit of the doubt and say he has changed, that he is healing. So, he does not need a cheater like Hope messing with his head. JMO

Great post.

Preach It, Hope!

takerkid @, 7/17/2023, 7:42PM (294 days ago) @matisse

I don't Hope is messing with his head. She's done with Liam. I'd have to see her flip-flop like Liam before I cast aspersions on her.

Preach It, Hope!

ReturnedBBFan, 7/17/2023, 5:32PM (294 days ago) @BBDOOLfan

I am a Brooke fan but when it comes to Lope, she is a giant idiot.

Agree
Where is Brooke's loyalty to her daughter - why does she always encourage Hope to forgive when Liam messes up. I would love an explanation for that? She has very good reasons not to want Hope with Thomas, but she shouldn't want Hope with Liam either.

Preach It, Hope!

Liz @, 7/17/2023, 5:37PM (294 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I am a Brooke fan but when it comes to Lope, she is a giant idiot.


Agree
Where is Brooke's loyalty to her daughter - why does she always encourage Hope to forgive when Liam messes up. I would love an explanation for that? She has very good reasons not to want Hope with Thomas, but she shouldn't want Hope with Liam either.

Brooke's loyalty IS with her daughter. Pushing Hope towards Liam isn't being done because that's what Brooke wants. Brooke thinks that is what Hope wants. Until today, Hope hasn't told Brooke anything to the contrary.

Preach It, Hope!

Sammy @, 7/17/2023, 7:48PM (294 days ago) @Liz

I am a Brooke fan but when it comes to Lope, she is a giant idiot.


Agree
Where is Brooke's loyalty to her daughter - why does she always encourage Hope to forgive when Liam messes up. I would love an explanation for that? She has very good reasons not to want Hope with Thomas, but she shouldn't want Hope with Liam either.


Brooke's loyalty IS with her daughter. Pushing Hope towards Liam isn't being done because that's what Brooke wants. Brooke thinks that is what Hope wants. Until today, Hope hasn't told Brooke anything to the contrary.

Brooke hadn’t asked her daughter what she wants. She just telling her to get back with Liam. I have a daughter and I would never want her with someone like Liam. He is repeatedly unfaithful and because it’s Steffy, Hope is to always forgive him
I would be helping my daughter get rid of him for good

Preach It, Hope!

jammer, The BURGH, 7/17/2023, 7:54PM (294 days ago) @Sammy

I am a Brooke fan but when it comes to Lope, she is a giant idiot.


Agree
Where is Brooke's loyalty to her daughter - why does she always encourage Hope to forgive when Liam messes up. I would love an explanation for that? She has very good reasons not to want Hope with Thomas, but she shouldn't want Hope with Liam either.


Brooke's loyalty IS with her daughter. Pushing Hope towards Liam isn't being done because that's what Brooke wants. Brooke thinks that is what Hope wants. Until today, Hope hasn't told Brooke anything to the contrary.


Brooke hadn’t asked her daughter what she wants. She just telling her to get back with Liam. I have a daughter and I would never want her with someone like Liam. He is repeatedly unfaithful and because it’s Steffy, Hope is to always forgive him
I would be helping my daughter get rid of him for good

And I surely wouldn't want my daughter with a demented wacko like Tom. Most likely the sure less of two evils in Liam.

Preach It, Hope!

matisse, 7/17/2023, 6:06PM (294 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I am a Brooke fan but when it comes to Lope, she is a giant idiot.


Agree
Where is Brooke's loyalty to her daughter - why does she always encourage Hope to forgive when Liam messes up. I would love an explanation for that? She has very good reasons not to want Hope with Thomas, but she shouldn't want Hope with Liam either.

Brooke was perfect with her child. I cannot imagine any decent mother doing any different, because they would be worried sick that their child was about to ruin their life. I believe that Brooke knows Hope well. And she just heard Hope confirm that Brooke is right. Hope said to her mother 2 things that stood out, and did another thing that stood out....she was extremely angry and distraught at the thought of Liam loving Steffy, which told Brooke, if Hope was sure of her decision, she would not be so emotional over it. She would be sad, resigned, reflective, but Hope was almost spitting mad and was starting to lose it. And she said to her mother..."I will always love Liam" and then when Brooke asked her, calmly if she was now done with her marriage, Hope said...."Mom, I wish I had an answer for you, but I don't , so please do not tell anyone what you saw here today. I need time to figure it out"....that told Brooke that Hope does not want the divorce, she wants Liam to stop all feelings for Steffy, which is impossible given that they share a biological child and they did not end their marriage in hate.

But, it looks like Hope is trying as hard as she can to end her marriage in hate, but she seems to not remember, she will always have Liam in her life, they share a biological child. Then fact that Hope is trying so hard to hate Liam and blame Liam is telling Brooke, Hope needs to hate Liam to be able to let go of him....that is how much she loves him.

Preach It, Hope!

moonlightof1982, 7/17/2023, 3:02PM (294 days ago) @takerkid

I literally just stood up in front of my TV and gave a standing ovation after that episode. Hope got her mother good. She read Brooke for filth and hit her with some hard truths. "In the same way Ridge is committed to you" was such a dagger of a line. Just because Brooke wants to spend her life chasing after a and trying to hold onto a man who's in love with two women doesn't mean Hope wants to. 12 years is enough. She wants a man who has eyes for her. I love that she ended things by going and sitting next to Thomas and putting her hand on his thigh. She let Brooke know how she feels, that she's done, done with Liam, and that she is capable of making her own choices. Brava, Hope, brava.

Hope kept it 100 today! :love

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