This soap kinda stinx..... (General)

poprox, 7/16/2023, 10:20PM (294 days ago)- 2 people liked this

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....

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Shimster @, 7/16/2023, 10:29PM (294 days ago) @poprox- one person liked this

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....

Love it - mired in the muck of adultery. Probably needing a paternity test soon too! I'm with you, doubt if I'll be tuning in much as well.

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poprox, 7/17/2023, 9:57PM (293 days ago) @Shimster

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Love it - mired in the muck of adultery. Probably needing a paternity test soon too! I'm with you, doubt if I'll be tuning in much as well.

A guilty pleasure, to be sure.;-)

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q, 7/16/2023, 10:43PM (294 days ago) @poprox

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....

Hi there Popr. Hope you are staying cool. We are hot as hello here in the South.

I having been watching as much as I used to. Wanted to see Brooke's reaction to Hope and Thomas and doubt if I'll see much more. Can't take too much of Dr. Quack. Have a feeling Liam is going to want custody of Beth. I also have this feeling in the future Hope for some reason will reach rock bottom and it will be Liam that will be there for her. Guess that last part is my hopeless romantic thoughts.

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matisse, 7/16/2023, 11:59PM (294 days ago) @q

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Hi there Popr. Hope you are staying cool. We are hot as hello here in the South.

I having been watching as much as I used to. Wanted to see Brooke's reaction to Hope and Thomas and doubt if I'll see much more. Can't take too much of Dr. Quack. Have a feeling Liam is going to want custody of Beth. I also have this feeling in the future Hope for some reason will reach rock bottom and it will be Liam that will be there for her. Guess that last part is my hopeless romantic thoughts.

KKL got performer of the week for her 10 minutes. I am not sure about the custody thing, as they sign divorce papers and you cannot do that until all custody is worked out. But, this is Bell. I hope Liam reads those papers that his cheating lying wife slides over to him, before he signs them. Liam is correct when he says he does not know this Hope. And he would do well to remember, she is now a complete stranger to him and you do not sign anything that a complete stranger wants you to sign, without going over it with a fine tooth comb.

I think Lope is done for good. But I do believe Hope is going to hit rock bottom, at the hands of Steffy and Taylor. JMO

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B&Bfan1980, 7/17/2023, 1:15AM (294 days ago) @matisse

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Hi there Popr. Hope you are staying cool. We are hot as hello here in the South.

I having been watching as much as I used to. Wanted to see Brooke's reaction to Hope and Thomas and doubt if I'll see much more. Can't take too much of Dr. Quack. Have a feeling Liam is going to want custody of Beth. I also have this feeling in the future Hope for some reason will reach rock bottom and it will be Liam that will be there for her. Guess that last part is my hopeless romantic thoughts.


KKL got performer of the week for her 10 minutes. I am not sure about the custody thing, as they sign divorce papers and you cannot do that until all custody is worked out. But, this is Bell. I hope Liam reads those papers that his cheating lying wife slides over to him, before he signs them. Liam is correct when he says he does not know this Hope. And he would do well to remember, she is now a complete stranger to him and you do not sign anything that a complete stranger wants you to sign, without going over it with a fine tooth comb.

I think Lope is done for good. But I do believe Hope is going to hit rock bottom, at the hands of Steffy and Taylor. JMO

I was thinking that too but you also couldn’t get a divorce this quickly in CA so I’d say anything can happen.

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poprox, 7/17/2023, 9:58PM (293 days ago) @q

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Hi there Popr. Hope you are staying cool. We are hot as hello here in the South.

I having been watching as much as I used to. Wanted to see Brooke's reaction to Hope and Thomas and doubt if I'll see much more. Can't take too much of Dr. Quack. Have a feeling Liam is going to want custody of Beth. I also have this feeling in the future Hope for some reason will reach rock bottom and it will be Liam that will be there for her. Guess that last part is my hopeless romantic thoughts.

Cool as I can be, q. Hope you are all well.

Taylor gets on my last nerve. :-D

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hopeyougogirl, 7/16/2023, 10:48PM (294 days ago) @poprox- one person liked this

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....

This story stinks bad..especially the way they completely destroyed the Hope character just to "redeem" Thomas. Will never make sense to this viewer. Ugh!

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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q, 7/16/2023, 10:51PM (294 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


This story stinks bad..especially the way they completely destroyed the Hope character just to "redeem" Thomas. Will never make sense to this viewer. Ugh!

I still don't see Thomas redeemed. He lied when he said he would not be between Liam and Hope. Brooke was right Thomas should have sent Hope home.
Too late for Hope now she has been soiled.

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B&Bfan1980, 7/17/2023, 1:16AM (294 days ago) @q

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


This story stinks bad..especially the way they completely destroyed the Hope character just to "redeem" Thomas. Will never make sense to this viewer. Ugh!


I still don't see Thomas redeemed. He lied when he said he would not be between Liam and Hope. Brooke was right Thomas should have sent Hope home.
Too late for Hope now she has been soiled.

Being a better person doesn’t mean you are perfect or a saint. This is on Hope the person that is married.

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q, 7/17/2023, 11:40PM (293 days ago) @B&Bfan1980

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


This story stinks bad..especially the way they completely destroyed the Hope character just to "redeem" Thomas. Will never make sense to this viewer. Ugh!


I still don't see Thomas redeemed. He lied when he said he would not be between Liam and Hope. Brooke was right Thomas should have sent Hope home.
Too late for Hope now she has been soiled.


Being a better person doesn’t mean you are perfect or a saint. This is on Hope the person that is married.

How many times has he said even if Hope came on to him he would not be involved?

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/17/2023, 1:29AM (294 days ago) @q

Why should Tom have sent Hope away? She is not a child, and she told him she knew what she was doing and that she wanted it. Being changed doesn´t mean you have to be a saint, just not obsessing or manipulating anymore. His longtime dream was about to come true, he probably was just happy.
And if Hope is "soiled", all Forresters, Logans and Spencers are soiled too, and most are more soiled than Hope is, aside from the children of course.

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ReturnedBBFan, 7/17/2023, 4:50AM (294 days ago) @Lizzy54- 2 people liked this

I do think Brooke was right in that Thomas should’ve sent Hope away but it’s not realistic.

He’s a man who basically has the woman he’s wanted for years coming on to him. He’s not saying no. Nothing to do with manipulating or obsession. Just being human and horny.

I think he should have but understand why he didn’t.

Tom didn’t put himself between Hope and Liam - Hope put him there. That’s not on him.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/17/2023, 5:03AM (294 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

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jammer, The BURGH, 7/17/2023, 8:32AM (294 days ago) @Lizzy54

Why should Tom have sent Hope away? She is not a child, and she told him she knew what she was doing and that she wanted it. Being changed doesn´t mean you have to be a saint, just not obsessing or manipulating anymore. His longtime dream was about to come true, he probably was just happy.
And if Hope is "soiled", all Forresters, Logans and Spencers are soiled too, and most are more soiled than Hope is, aside from the children of course.

You mean his long time creepy obsession and plotting has finally been realized. Tom hasn't changed. He is still the wacky mental case he always was. He just has learned to hide it better.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/17/2023, 8:47AM (294 days ago) @jammer

Why should Tom have sent Hope away? She is not a child, and she told him she knew what she was doing and that she wanted it. Being changed doesn´t mean you have to be a saint, just not obsessing or manipulating anymore. His longtime dream was about to come true, he probably was just happy.
And if Hope is "soiled", all Forresters, Logans and Spencers are soiled too, and most are more soiled than Hope is, aside from the children of course.


You mean his long time creepy obsession and plotting has finally been realized. Tom hasn't changed. He is still the wacky mental case he always was. He just has learned to hide it better.

Maybe, maybe not...I would like him to have really changed but we will have to wait and see.

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Sammy @, 7/17/2023, 10:15PM (293 days ago) @jammer

Why should Tom have sent Hope away? She is not a child, and she told him she knew what she was doing and that she wanted it. Being changed doesn´t mean you have to be a saint, just not obsessing or manipulating anymore. His longtime dream was about to come true, he probably was just happy.
And if Hope is "soiled", all Forresters, Logans and Spencers are soiled too, and most are more soiled than Hope is, aside from the children of course.


You mean his long time creepy obsession and plotting has finally been realized. Tom hasn't changed. He is still the wacky mental case he always was. He just has learned to hide it better.

Has not shown Thomas with an obsession or plotting. This has been all Hope. He didn’t even say anything Brooke. It is what Hope wants

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Sammy @, 7/17/2023, 10:11PM (293 days ago) @q

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


This story stinks bad..especially the way they completely destroyed the Hope character just to "redeem" Thomas. Will never make sense to this viewer. Ugh!


I still don't see Thomas redeemed. He lied when he said he would not be between Liam and Hope. Brooke was right Thomas should have sent Hope home.
Too late for Hope now she has been soiled.

Hope isn’t a little girl. Thomas didn’t go to her, she came to him. They are both grown adults and can do what they want. Hope is not a child. I don’t even know what her being soiled means

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Barbybo, 7/17/2023, 8:06AM (294 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


This story stinks bad..especially the way they completely destroyed the Hope character just to "redeem" Thomas. Will never make sense to this viewer. Ugh!

Divorce happens ….life goes on…..even for Hope

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poprox, 7/17/2023, 10:01PM (293 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


This story stinks bad..especially the way they completely destroyed the Hope character just to "redeem" Thomas. Will never make sense to this viewer. Ugh!

Sounds like Hope blew a fuse mentally and just wants:didas to be away from Liam. {cannot blame her for that...}

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q, 7/16/2023, 10:48PM (294 days ago) @poprox- one person liked this

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....

Also I forgot to post. Hope is no longer special. She is just like everyone else, an adultruss.

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matisse, 7/17/2023, 12:01AM (294 days ago) @q

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Also I forgot to post. Hope is no longer special. She is just like everyone else, an adultruss.

The only people with morals on this show now are Finn and Charlie. I would say Paris, but she is such a little trouble making backstabber, I just cannot include her.

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Foreverbeauty, 7/17/2023, 5:49AM (294 days ago) @matisse

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Also I forgot to post. Hope is no longer special. She is just like everyone else, an adultruss.


The only people with morals on this show now are Finn and Charlie. I would say Paris, but she is such a little trouble making backstabber, I just cannot include her.

I disagree. Paris is a good character. Who should be used a lot more.

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Kammie @, 7/17/2023, 10:32AM (294 days ago) @Foreverbeauty

I completely disagree. Paris is a lying, backstabbing, gossiping, troublemaker... Zoe said that about Paris to Carter. She also said that even though she loved her sister, she did not want to be around her because she brings trouble. I know that is rich coming from Zoe after what she pulled.

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Barbybo, 7/17/2023, 8:52AM (294 days ago) @matisse

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Also I forgot to post. Hope is no longer special. She is just like everyone else, an adultruss.


The only people with morals on this show now are Finn and Charlie. I would say Paris, but she is such a little trouble making backstabber, I just cannot include her.

I don’t know if paris is around

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Barbybo, 7/17/2023, 8:07AM (294 days ago) @q

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Also I forgot to post. Hope is no longer special. She is just like everyone else, an adultruss.

She fits in only one clean is finn

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poprox, 7/17/2023, 10:02PM (293 days ago) @q

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


Also I forgot to post. Hope is no longer special. She is just like everyone else, an adultruss.

Yep, she did the deed.

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jammer, The BURGH, 7/17/2023, 6:26AM (294 days ago) @poprox

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....

I have already tuned out. I sure do want to waste my summer watching the regurgitating pairing of creeper Tom and the suddenly insatiable Hope. :puke

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poprox, 7/17/2023, 10:04PM (293 days ago) @jammer

The one bright lite, Hope, is now mired in the muck of adultery.

Doubt if I will tune in much this summer....


I have already tuned out. I sure do want to waste my summer watching the regurgitating pairing of creeper Tom and the suddenly insatiable Hope. :puke

jammer, i do not blame you. if it is not too hot or wet outside, work in your garden.:-)

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Kammie @, 7/17/2023, 10:26AM (294 days ago) @poprox

Sorry, I will not label Hope as an adulteress, just like I do not label Liam as an adulterer when they created Beth. Hope and Liam made it very clear to each other that the marriage was over and Liam wanted a divorce.... In the case of Liam and Steffy, Liam made it clear to Steffy that he was signing the annulment papers and ending the marriage. Thope and Lope started when the respective marriages were over....

This is completely different from when Brooke and Ridge committed adultery in the lab, or when Steffy had her ONS with Bill. Brooke and Eric as well as Steffy and Liam were supposedly happy in their marriages.

I do see why people are upset with Hope about Thomas. Heck it really turns my stomach that it is Thomas. However, based on my poll on this board, if Hope had turned to any other man other than Thomas, then she would have been praised for finally being free.

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poprox, 7/17/2023, 10:08PM (293 days ago) @Kammie

Hope committed adultery.

PERIOD.

She knows it and she does not seem to be bothered by it.;-)

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Tiqui1999 @, 7/17/2023, 10:36AM (294 days ago) @poprox

Yeah, that's what I was saying in another one of my post the other day. Who do you root for? Hope was the last one who actually was more realistic and tried to do things by the book. That was worth rooting for. I think that the writers could have written this in a way that kept hopes integrity and still told a similar if not the same story.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/17/2023, 10:49AM (294 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Yes, I am sure this would have been possible if they tried but I suppose they didn´t care.

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Tiqui1999 @, 7/17/2023, 10:55AM (294 days ago) @Lizzy54

Yes, I am sure this would have been possible if they tried but I suppose they didn´t care.

Well I think that they think they have the fans so locked in, that will accept anything and still root for our fave. And I might have rooted for Hope but it had to be done right. And you might be right, and they just don't care.

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poprox, 7/17/2023, 10:11PM (293 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Yeah, that's what I was saying in another one of my post the other day. Who do you root for? Hope was the last one who actually was more realistic and tried to do things by the book. That was worth rooting for. I think that the writers could have written this in a way that kept hopes integrity and still told a similar if not the same story.

Sounds like the writers' are bored and really want to switch stuff around. Sorry that it has to be Hope to take a tumble in the morals department, however. I always rooted for her.:cry

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