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matisse, 7/5/2023, 2:21PM (307 days ago)
edited by matisse, 7/5/2023, 2:31PM

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope possibly derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have been JUST Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be out for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating this mess that has now put her in a position that she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn. Steffy is savvy and she knows things were going smoothly with all the co-parenting, but now Hope has really mucked it all up.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they, of all people, could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK

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takerkid @, 7/5/2023, 2:31PM (307 days ago) @matisse

First of all Bridge was just white noise to me. I tried my best to ignore them. As far as Hope goes, we know that she doesn't think Thomas is a bad person. She tearfully admitted as much to him a month ago when she was profusely apologizing to him for what she said to her mother. That said I do think she's finally starting to articulate everything that's going on in her head. I've said for awhile now that she's suffering under the pressure of the standards of perfection she set for herself. As far as how she ends up over with Thomas, I think that Liam asks her about her has feelings for Thomas and her response prompts him to reaffirm his request for a divorce. I think that in turn gets Hope thinking and she beelines it over to Thomas. Lope are done, Thope are rising.

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ReturnedBBFan, 7/5/2023, 2:34PM (307 days ago) @takerkid

I’m wondering if Liam tells her of the kiss he just laid on Steffy and how Steffy rebuffed him as a comparator and that makes her go to Thomas??

Just very curious how she ends up at his place.

Or does Thomas call her to say folk know and asks her to come over ??

She goes there to tell him it’s a mistake ??

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matisse, 7/5/2023, 2:38PM (307 days ago) @takerkid- one person liked this

First of all Bridge was just white noise to me. I tried my best to ignore them. As far as Hope goes, we know that she doesn't think Thomas is a bad person. She tearfully admitted as much to him a month ago when she was profusely apologizing to him for what she said to her mother. That said I do think she's finally starting to articulate everything that's going on in her head. I've said for awhile now that she's suffering under the pressure of the standards of perfection she set for herself. As far as how she ends up over with Thomas, I think that Liam asks her about her has feelings for Thomas and her response prompts him to reaffirm his request for a divorce. I think that in turn gets Hope thinking and she beelines it over to Thomas. Lope are done, Thope are rising.

I don't think Thope is rising at all...JMO. I think Hope had some clarity today about Tom. She does not love him. She said she made a wrong choice because she was always putting high standards around herself. I know she is going to go over and kiss him again. But, I think what Bridge said today was a omen of what is to come. Ridge said, Lope loves each other, and no matter what, their love would find it's way back to each other. And he did some gesturing that he was talking about how Bridge would falter, and then always come back to each other.

But IA that Hope is suffering from her own self imposed standards. That Tom is the bad boy that she felt she could let loose with and free herself from those standards. But, if Tom has really changed, then he is no longer a bad boy, he is then just the guy that caused great harm to Lope and their family, who is trying to be better. Hope even said today how much harm Tom caused her family and her child. I do think Liam is going to reject her, then she is going to run to Tom and kiss him. If he sends her away, then good for him, maybe he is changing. If he beds her, then he is the creep he says he is not. And then we will know, we are getting a WTD SL.

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takerkid @, 7/5/2023, 2:48PM (307 days ago) @matisse

Hope has already admitted to having feelings for Thomas. She admitted it to Liam last week and then almost immediately reaffirmed it so the feelings are there. While the pressure of the standards she set for herself played a role I do think she was grasping for an excuse to explain away what happened. Either way something Liam says to her is clearly what makes her run to Thomas because up til now she's been so wrapped up Liam leaving her she hasn't thought about Thomas.

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 2:50PM (307 days ago) @takerkid

Hope has already admitted to having feelings for Thomas. She admitted it to Liam last week and then almost immediately reaffirmed it so the feelings are there. While the pressure of the standards she set for herself played a role I do think she was grasping for an excuse to explain away what happened. Either way something Liam says to her is clearly what makes her run to Thomas because up til now she's been so wrapped up Liam leaving her she hasn't thought about Thomas.

Whatever it is, it is still Lope angst, IMO.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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takerkid @, 7/5/2023, 2:56PM (307 days ago) @Drangonfly

I just don't think Liam gets past this especially if Hope and Thomas actually become official

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 3:14PM (307 days ago) @takerkid- one person liked this

I just don't think Liam gets past this especially if Hope and Thomas actually become official

You mean, like, ever? Lope are an end game couple, IMO. They will go through many more of these kind of issues, over time.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Sammy @, 7/5/2023, 4:16PM (307 days ago) @takerkid

Hope has already admitted to having feelings for Thomas. She admitted it to Liam last week and then almost immediately reaffirmed it so the feelings are there. While the pressure of the standards she set for herself played a role I do think she was grasping for an excuse to explain away what happened. Either way something Liam says to her is clearly what makes her run to Thomas because up til now she's been so wrapped up Liam leaving her she hasn't thought about Thomas.

Great post

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Soapyfun41, 7/5/2023, 4:33PM (307 days ago) @matisse

First of all Bridge was just white noise to me. I tried my best to ignore them. As far as Hope goes, we know that she doesn't think Thomas is a bad person. She tearfully admitted as much to him a month ago when she was profusely apologizing to him for what she said to her mother. That said I do think she's finally starting to articulate everything that's going on in her head. I've said for awhile now that she's suffering under the pressure of the standards of perfection she set for herself. As far as how she ends up over with Thomas, I think that Liam asks her about her has feelings for Thomas and her response prompts him to reaffirm his request for a divorce. I think that in turn gets Hope thinking and she beelines it over to Thomas. Lope are done, Thope are rising.


I don't think Thope is rising at all...JMO. I think Hope had some clarity today about Tom. She does not love him. She said she made a wrong choice because she was always putting high standards around herself. I know she is going to go over and kiss him again. But, I think what Bridge said today was a omen of what is to come. Ridge said, Lope loves each other, and no matter what, their love would find it's way back to each other. And he did some gesturing that he was talking about how Bridge would falter, and then always come back to each other.

But IA that Hope is suffering from her own self imposed standards. That Tom is the bad boy that she felt she could let loose with and free herself from those standards. But, if Tom has really changed, then he is no longer a bad boy, he is then just the guy that caused great harm to Lope and their family, who is trying to be better. Hope even said today how much harm Tom caused her family and her child. I do think Liam is going to reject her, then she is going to run to Tom and kiss him. If he sends her away, then good for him, maybe he is changing. If he beds her, then he is the creep he says he is not. And then we will know, we are getting a WTD SL.

I think your right. Thope isn’t rising. Thope was just used to break up Lope. I’m wondering if they may try Hope & Finn.

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Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 2:43PM (307 days ago) @takerkid

First of all Bridge was just white noise to me. I tried my best to ignore them. As far as Hope goes, we know that she doesn't think Thomas is a bad person. She tearfully admitted as much to him a month ago when she was profusely apologizing to him for what she said to her mother. That said I do think she's finally starting to articulate everything that's going on in her head. I've said for awhile now that she's suffering under the pressure of the standards of perfection she set for herself. As far as how she ends up over with Thomas, I think that Liam asks her about her has feelings for Thomas and her response prompts him to reaffirm his request for a divorce. I think that in turn gets Hope thinking and she beelines it over to Thomas. Lope are done, Thope are rising.

Gawd can they back burn bridge they are annoying

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krort @, 7/5/2023, 2:32PM (307 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

For me nothing changed today.

No amount of thinking about it has changed Hope's mind. She is still in a stupor. She confesses to RJ that it was her that kissed Tom and she knew it was wrong, she loves Liam. But she did say she felt restrained by the
shackles of being the good girl in a gilded cage and wanted to feel free. Guess that did not work after all.

And because of what she told Thomas on the plane ride home, what happens in Rome stays in Rome it looks like she never intended to share this moment with Liam and rightfully so the way he finally took it when he already knew.

So instead we have the outside influences, Wyatt talking to Liam and practically pushing him to go give Hope another chance, and then Hope texting Liam and wanting to discuss it more. But she pushes it too far and lays hands on his face and he is disgusted.

And yet Thomas is just now finding out from Steffy what others know and he has yet to confront Hope and certainly not Liam. So they missed July 4th but you know fireworks are coming.


Wanda

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ReturnedBBFan, 7/5/2023, 2:36PM (307 days ago) @krort- 5 people liked this[OO]

Liam need to take several seats and consider giving his wife forgiveness. Just tell her to give him time.

Sorry…seeing begging Hope when he just tried to get into Steffys pants just really irked me.

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matisse, 7/5/2023, 2:41PM (307 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan- one person liked this

Liam need to take several seats and consider giving his wife forgiveness. Just tell her to give him time.

Sorry…seeing begging Hope when he just tried to get into Steffys pants just really irked me.

IA he needs to take stock and look at himself and tell her they both have made mistakes and it is time to work on their marriage, if for no other reason than, Beth. They can give it a go, and if it does not work out, then so be it.

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Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 2:45PM (307 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

Liam need to take several seats and consider giving his wife forgiveness. Just tell her to give him time.

Sorry…seeing begging Hope when he just tried to get into Steffys pants just really irked me.

He’s allways been a oinker character

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Kammie @, 7/5/2023, 2:38PM (307 days ago) @matisse- 4 people liked this[O]

Sounds about right.... I will add that Steffy seemed to enjoy the mess she set in motion. I wanted to reach through my TV and slap her smug grin off her face (Steffy, not JMW)

It really ticks me off that Hope was begging that habitual cheater.

I was really proud of my girl Brooke... She reacted exactly the way I thought she would... Not once has she bashed Thomas since she found out that Hope was the one who initiated it. She even had no problem "owning" Hope's mistake when speaking to Ridge. Brooke is supporting her daughter, but has no problem laying the blame at Hope's feet.

Yes, Hope has an identity crisis at the moment and who knows what happens when she goes sees Thomas. She could tell him that she know longer wants to work in close proximity to him. Maybe he decides to plant one on Hope and Liam sees it. Maybe Liam hurts Hope farther and tells her about Steffy and tells her it is over. Hope then goes see Thomas, apologizes to him. Liam goes to Thomas to tell him off and sees Thomas kisses her and Liam runs off all heartbroken.

At this point I do not care. Liam really deserves this "heartbreak", he has done far worse to Hope than a kiss. He even went to his back up betty and Steffy pushed back. I just can't feel sympathy for Liam.

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 2:43PM (307 days ago) @Kammie- one person liked this

Sounds about right.... I will add that Steffy seemed to enjoy the mess she set in motion. I wanted to reach through my TV and slap her smug grin off her face (Steffy, not JMW)

It really ticks me off that Hope was begging that habitual cheater.

I was really proud of my girl Brooke... She reacted exactly the way I thought she would... Not once has she bashed Thomas since she found out that Hope was the one who initiated it. She even had no problem "owning" Hope's mistake when speaking to Ridge. Brooke is supporting her daughter, but has no problem laying the blame at Hope's feet.

Yes, Hope has an identity crisis at the moment and who knows what happens when she goes sees Thomas. She could tell him that she know longer wants to work in close proximity to him. Maybe he decides to plant one on Hope and Liam sees it. Maybe Liam hurts Hope farther and tells her about Steffy and tells her it is over. Hope then goes see Thomas, apologizes to him. Liam goes to Thomas to tell him off and sees Thomas kisses her and Liam runs off all heartbroken.

At this point I do not care. Liam really deserves this "heartbreak", he has done far worse to Hope than a kiss. He even went to his back up betty and Steffy pushed back. I just can't feel sympathy for Liam.

I so agree about Brooke. She was great today. And Ridge was very understanding about it all.

I have a feeling that Liam will tell Hope that it's over and she'll no longer feel constrained by that "gilded cage", so she'll explore her feelings for Thomas. I'll hate it, but I think that may be what happens.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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hopeyougogirl, 7/5/2023, 2:50PM (307 days ago) @Drangonfly

Sounds about right.... I will add that Steffy seemed to enjoy the mess she set in motion. I wanted to reach through my TV and slap her smug grin off her face (Steffy, not JMW)

It really ticks me off that Hope was begging that habitual cheater.

I was really proud of my girl Brooke... She reacted exactly the way I thought she would... Not once has she bashed Thomas since she found out that Hope was the one who initiated it. She even had no problem "owning" Hope's mistake when speaking to Ridge. Brooke is supporting her daughter, but has no problem laying the blame at Hope's feet.

Yes, Hope has an identity crisis at the moment and who knows what happens when she goes sees Thomas. She could tell him that she know longer wants to work in close proximity to him. Maybe he decides to plant one on Hope and Liam sees it. Maybe Liam hurts Hope farther and tells her about Steffy and tells her it is over. Hope then goes see Thomas, apologizes to him. Liam goes to Thomas to tell him off and sees Thomas kisses her and Liam runs off all heartbroken.

At this point I do not care. Liam really deserves this "heartbreak", he has done far worse to Hope than a kiss. He even went to his back up betty and Steffy pushed back. I just can't feel sympathy for Liam.


I so agree about Brooke. She was great today. And Ridge was very understanding about it all.

I have a feeling that Liam will tell Hope that it's over and she'll no longer feel constrained by that "gilded cage", so she'll explore her feelings for Thomas. I'll hate it, but I think that may be what happens.

Then a forced Thope is nothing but a rebound..still creepy and gross.:puke :puke

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 2:52PM (307 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Sounds about right.... I will add that Steffy seemed to enjoy the mess she set in motion. I wanted to reach through my TV and slap her smug grin off her face (Steffy, not JMW)

It really ticks me off that Hope was begging that habitual cheater.

I was really proud of my girl Brooke... She reacted exactly the way I thought she would... Not once has she bashed Thomas since she found out that Hope was the one who initiated it. She even had no problem "owning" Hope's mistake when speaking to Ridge. Brooke is supporting her daughter, but has no problem laying the blame at Hope's feet.

Yes, Hope has an identity crisis at the moment and who knows what happens when she goes sees Thomas. She could tell him that she know longer wants to work in close proximity to him. Maybe he decides to plant one on Hope and Liam sees it. Maybe Liam hurts Hope farther and tells her about Steffy and tells her it is over. Hope then goes see Thomas, apologizes to him. Liam goes to Thomas to tell him off and sees Thomas kisses her and Liam runs off all heartbroken.

At this point I do not care. Liam really deserves this "heartbreak", he has done far worse to Hope than a kiss. He even went to his back up betty and Steffy pushed back. I just can't feel sympathy for Liam.


I so agree about Brooke. She was great today. And Ridge was very understanding about it all.

I have a feeling that Liam will tell Hope that it's over and she'll no longer feel constrained by that "gilded cage", so she'll explore her feelings for Thomas. I'll hate it, but I think that may be what happens.


Then a forced Thope is nothing but a rebound..still creepy and gross.:puke :puke

Agree 100%. A rebound born out of an identity crisis. Hope and Liam will be back together sooner or later. ;-)

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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hopeyougogirl, 7/5/2023, 3:09PM (307 days ago) @Drangonfly

Sounds about right.... I will add that Steffy seemed to enjoy the mess she set in motion. I wanted to reach through my TV and slap her smug grin off her face (Steffy, not JMW)

It really ticks me off that Hope was begging that habitual cheater.

I was really proud of my girl Brooke... She reacted exactly the way I thought she would... Not once has she bashed Thomas since she found out that Hope was the one who initiated it. She even had no problem "owning" Hope's mistake when speaking to Ridge. Brooke is supporting her daughter, but has no problem laying the blame at Hope's feet.

Yes, Hope has an identity crisis at the moment and who knows what happens when she goes sees Thomas. She could tell him that she know longer wants to work in close proximity to him. Maybe he decides to plant one on Hope and Liam sees it. Maybe Liam hurts Hope farther and tells her about Steffy and tells her it is over. Hope then goes see Thomas, apologizes to him. Liam goes to Thomas to tell him off and sees Thomas kisses her and Liam runs off all heartbroken.

At this point I do not care. Liam really deserves this "heartbreak", he has done far worse to Hope than a kiss. He even went to his back up betty and Steffy pushed back. I just can't feel sympathy for Liam.


I so agree about Brooke. She was great today. And Ridge was very understanding about it all.

I have a feeling that Liam will tell Hope that it's over and she'll no longer feel constrained by that "gilded cage", so she'll explore her feelings for Thomas. I'll hate it, but I think that may be what happens.


Then a forced Thope is nothing but a rebound..still creepy and gross.:puke :puke


Agree 100%. A rebound born out of an identity crisis. Hope and Liam will be back together sooner or later. ;-)

Yeah, I have no doubt Lope will find their way back to each other. But I can NOT handle if Bell actually "go there". :grrr

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 3:16PM (307 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Sounds about right.... I will add that Steffy seemed to enjoy the mess she set in motion. I wanted to reach through my TV and slap her smug grin off her face (Steffy, not JMW)

It really ticks me off that Hope was begging that habitual cheater.

I was really proud of my girl Brooke... She reacted exactly the way I thought she would... Not once has she bashed Thomas since she found out that Hope was the one who initiated it. She even had no problem "owning" Hope's mistake when speaking to Ridge. Brooke is supporting her daughter, but has no problem laying the blame at Hope's feet.

Yes, Hope has an identity crisis at the moment and who knows what happens when she goes sees Thomas. She could tell him that she know longer wants to work in close proximity to him. Maybe he decides to plant one on Hope and Liam sees it. Maybe Liam hurts Hope farther and tells her about Steffy and tells her it is over. Hope then goes see Thomas, apologizes to him. Liam goes to Thomas to tell him off and sees Thomas kisses her and Liam runs off all heartbroken.

At this point I do not care. Liam really deserves this "heartbreak", he has done far worse to Hope than a kiss. He even went to his back up betty and Steffy pushed back. I just can't feel sympathy for Liam.


I so agree about Brooke. She was great today. And Ridge was very understanding about it all.

I have a feeling that Liam will tell Hope that it's over and she'll no longer feel constrained by that "gilded cage", so she'll explore her feelings for Thomas. I'll hate it, but I think that may be what happens.


Then a forced Thope is nothing but a rebound..still creepy and gross.:puke :puke


Agree 100%. A rebound born out of an identity crisis. Hope and Liam will be back together sooner or later. ;-)


Yeah, I have no doubt Lope will find their way back to each other. But I can NOT handle if Bell actually "go there". :grrr

I'll hate it too, if it even happens. But, it is what it is. :-D

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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GracieGirl, 7/5/2023, 3:06PM (307 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Hope doesn’t come out of this looking as lovely or smelling as wonderfully as a rose. That’s for sure.

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Kammie @, 7/5/2023, 3:11PM (307 days ago) @GracieGirl- 3 people liked this[O]

But she is smelling better than her habitual cheating husband.

(Disclaimer: I still cant go there with Hope and Thomas.... NOPE to THOPE)

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hopeyougogirl, 7/5/2023, 3:12PM (307 days ago) @GracieGirl- 4 people liked this[O]

Hope doesn’t come out of this looking as lovely or smelling as wonderfully as a rose. That’s for sure.

Bell has completely destroyed my fave..she was beloved by me because of the core of who she is..but looks like that's all gone. And it's infuriating to this diehard Hope fan that they threw her under the bus in this never-ending attempt to "redeem" evil monster Thomas. Will NEVER work for me.

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GracieGirl, 7/5/2023, 3:15PM (307 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

You and I are on same page. It’s not as if Hope was perfect. She’s made plenty of mistakes. The show acted like Hope never did anything wrong. How about with Wyatt? They went about it the wrong way.

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Sammy @, 7/5/2023, 3:56PM (307 days ago) @GracieGirl

Hope doesn’t come out of this looking as lovely or smelling as wonderfully as a rose. That’s for sure.

Why not? Hope has done one thing that everyone else on this show, especially Liam and Steffy done. They have done worse

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Bridge4Evr, 7/5/2023, 3:56PM (307 days ago) @Kammie- 3 people liked this[O]

Great post, I agree with every point! I especially love how Brooke is handling it all. Anti-Bridgers were predicting (and hoping for) a quick end to the Bridge reunion because “Brooke will never admit that the kiss was Hope’s fault”. She proved them wrong and I couldn’t be happier!

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Sammy @, 7/5/2023, 3:59PM (307 days ago) @Bridge4Evr- 2 people liked this

Great post, I agree with every point! I especially love how Brooke is handling it all. Anti-Bridgers were predicting (and hoping for) a quick end to the Bridge reunion because “Brooke will never admit that the kiss was Hope’s fault”. She proved them wrong and I couldn’t be happier!

Unlike Taylor who has always made excuses and blamed someone else

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Riley, 7/6/2023, 4:37AM (306 days ago) @Bridge4Evr

Great post, I agree with every point! I especially love how Brooke is handling it all. Anti-Bridgers were predicting (and hoping for) a quick end to the Bridge reunion because “Brooke will never admit that the kiss was Hope’s fault”. She proved them wrong and I couldn’t be happier!

Exactly! I also loved that Ridge reacted the same way Brooke did when he learned about the kiss. Someone opened a thread the other day bashing Brooke and accusing her of hating Ridge's son, just because her first reaction was to blame Thomas for the kiss. But now Ridge himself also suspected that Thomas had initiated the kiss and hadn't changed at all, before Brooke told him the whole story. Guess that means he must be hating Thomas too... :whistle

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hopeyougogirl, 7/5/2023, 2:41PM (307 days ago) @matisse- 3 people liked this[O]

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK

Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.

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Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 2:46PM (307 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.

My guess Tom tells Hope to settle her marriage before they even have a shot…he’s not the bad guy here

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matisse, 7/5/2023, 2:54PM (307 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.

I also think Steffy is gleeful now and is going to use this to oust Hope. Brooke will balk, but if she wants to keep peace at home, she will stay out of it. If Steffy wants to oust Hope it will be fairly easy. She will call a family meeting at FC, as it is family and business. I am sure Taylor will be there too. Steffy will make her case to Ridge, Eric and Taylor that Hope and Tom should not be working together because Tom has been doing so much better, he is at the peak of his creativity, etc. and he does not need to be derailed by Hope and her drama and games. Ridge will try to see both sides, Taylor will be calculating which direction would be better for her to get Ridge back, and Eric will just be Eric. I am sure Taylor will be asked for her "expert opinion" on the matter....and who knows with this bunch, but they may insist if Hope is going to keep working with Tom, she has to go into therapy with Taylor. LOL. That would be the ultimate one-two slap to Brooke, Hope and Liam. The final throwing under the bus of anyone not connected to that Hamilton Gang.

They have ousted many of the characters before, so why not oust Hope now? They ousted Rick for shooting the gun in the office where Caroline and Ridge were making out. They ousted Thorne for stealing designs and giving them to Spectre. They ousted Tom for the CPS call. They ousted Brooke for Berrygate, which did not even happen and was another Tom lie. They ousted Eric for cheating on Stephanie. They demoted Steffy for the "Ho* For The Future" stunt. I could easily see Hope getting ousted from FC altogether. Which may be why RJ is meeting with Wyatt and Liam in 5 weeks. Maybe he is trying to get them to help Hope out?

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Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 2:57PM (307 days ago) @matisse

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.


I also think Steffy is gleeful now and is going to use this to oust Hope. Brooke will balk, but if she wants to keep peace at home, she will stay out of it. If Steffy wants to oust Hope it will be fairly easy. She will call a family meeting at FC, as it is family and business. I am sure Taylor will be there too. Steffy will make her case to Ridge, Eric and Taylor that Hope and Tom should not be working together because Tom has been doing so much better, he is at the peak of his creativity, etc. and he does not need to be derailed by Hope and her drama and games. Ridge will try to see both sides, Taylor will be calculating which direction would be better for her to get Ridge back, and Eric will just be Eric. I am sure Taylor will be asked for her "expert opinion" on the matter....and who knows with this bunch, but they may insist if Hope is going to keep working with Tom, she has to go into therapy with Taylor. LOL. That would be the ultimate one-two slap to Brooke, Hope and Liam. The final throwing under the bus of anyone not connected to that Hamilton Gang.

They have ousted many of the characters before, so why not oust Hope now? They ousted Rick for shooting the gun in the office where Caroline and Ridge were making out. They ousted Thorne for stealing designs and giving them to Spectre. They ousted Tom for the CPS call. They ousted Brooke for Berrygate, which did not even happen and was another Tom lie. They ousted Eric for cheating on Stephanie. They demoted Steffy for the "Ho* For The Future" stunt. I could easily see Hope getting ousted from FC altogether. Which may be why RJ is meeting with Wyatt and Liam in 5 weeks. Maybe he is trying to get them to help Hope out?

Pretty lame ditching a employee for a kiss …what is she the kiss police. Gawd steffy Brooke these characters need to gag it throw in that useless r.j too…..it’s a job I think Liam orders Hope to quit then kiss comes out liam gets caught

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Kammie @, 7/5/2023, 3:09PM (307 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Steffy better watch out because Hope does have a case against FC for sexual harassment. People win their cases against their employers with very similar circumstances. The Foresters and Hamilton's all know that Thomas has sexually harassed Hope for years. The CEO herself forced Hope to work with her abuser. Hope can prove that having to work with Thomas again caused her so much emotional and psychological stress that she was confused and was not dealing with reality.

I would love for Hope to get her hands on Steffy and Thomas' shares and become the majority shareholder. Those clowns are getting rich by exploiting Hope.

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matisse, 7/5/2023, 3:17PM (307 days ago) @Kammie

Steffy better watch out because Hope does have a case against FC for sexual harassment. People win their cases against their employers with very similar circumstances. The Foresters and Hamilton's all know that Thomas has sexually harassed Hope for years. The CEO herself forced Hope to work with her abuser. Hope can prove that having to work with Thomas again caused her so much emotional and psychological stress that she was confused and was not dealing with reality.

I would love for Hope to get her hands on Steffy and Thomas' shares and become the majority shareholder. Those clowns are getting rich by exploiting Hope.

She would not have a snowball's chance in hell now. All they would have to do is have Tom tell about her accosting him in Rome. She lost her chance of claiming any workplace harassment, when she harassed Tom on a business trip.

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 3:24PM (307 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Steffy better watch out because Hope does have a case against FC for sexual harassment. People win their cases against their employers with very similar circumstances. The Foresters and Hamilton's all know that Thomas has sexually harassed Hope for years. The CEO herself forced Hope to work with her abuser. Hope can prove that having to work with Thomas again caused her so much emotional and psychological stress that she was confused and was not dealing with reality.

I would love for Hope to get her hands on Steffy and Thomas' shares and become the majority shareholder. Those clowns are getting rich by exploiting Hope.


She would not have a snowball's chance in hell now. All they would have to do is have Tom tell about her accosting him in Rome. She lost her chance of claiming any workplace harassment, when she harassed Tom on a business trip.

Ridge already knows about the kiss in Rome and doesn't seem phased by it at all. He chalked it up to her doing the same things he and Brooke used to do. I don't think he'll accuse Hope of harassment.

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Kammie @, 7/5/2023, 3:56PM (307 days ago) @Drangonfly- one person liked this

And what happened was off the clock. Thomas sexually harassment happened on the clock.

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Kammie @, 7/5/2023, 3:55PM (307 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

That is not true... In real life people like Hope (in her situation) win sexual harassment cases all the time. I know this for a fact.

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Sammy @, 7/5/2023, 4:01PM (307 days ago) @matisse

Steffy better watch out because Hope does have a case against FC for sexual harassment. People win their cases against their employers with very similar circumstances. The Foresters and Hamilton's all know that Thomas has sexually harassed Hope for years. The CEO herself forced Hope to work with her abuser. Hope can prove that having to work with Thomas again caused her so much emotional and psychological stress that she was confused and was not dealing with reality.

I would love for Hope to get her hands on Steffy and Thomas' shares and become the majority shareholder. Those clowns are getting rich by exploiting Hope.


She would not have a snowball's chance in hell now. All they would have to do is have Tom tell about her accosting him in Rome. She lost her chance of claiming any workplace harassment, when she harassed Tom on a business trip.

Really? You are going there? Accosting? Wow

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hopeyougogirl, 7/5/2023, 3:19PM (307 days ago) @matisse- 4 people liked this[O]

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.


I also think Steffy is gleeful now and is going to use this to oust Hope. Brooke will balk, but if she wants to keep peace at home, she will stay out of it. If Steffy wants to oust Hope it will be fairly easy. She will call a family meeting at FC, as it is family and business. I am sure Taylor will be there too. Steffy will make her case to Ridge, Eric and Taylor that Hope and Tom should not be working together because Tom has been doing so much better, he is at the peak of his creativity, etc. and he does not need to be derailed by Hope and her drama and games. Ridge will try to see both sides, Taylor will be calculating which direction would be better for her to get Ridge back, and Eric will just be Eric. I am sure Taylor will be asked for her "expert opinion" on the matter....and who knows with this bunch, but they may insist if Hope is going to keep working with Tom, she has to go into therapy with Taylor. LOL. That would be the ultimate one-two slap to Brooke, Hope and Liam. The final throwing under the bus of anyone not connected to that Hamilton Gang.

They have ousted many of the characters before, so why not oust Hope now? They ousted Rick for shooting the gun in the office where Caroline and Ridge were making out. They ousted Thorne for stealing designs and giving them to Spectre. They ousted Tom for the CPS call. They ousted Brooke for Berrygate, which did not even happen and was another Tom lie. They ousted Eric for cheating on Stephanie. They demoted Steffy for the "Ho* For The Future" stunt. I could easily see Hope getting ousted from FC altogether. Which may be why RJ is meeting with Wyatt and Liam in 5 weeks. Maybe he is trying to get them to help Hope out?

Except Steffy has far more scandals than Hope..just in recent years, she's done plenty of scandalous adulteries plus paternity tests..so when is she gonna get ousted as a co-CEO? She's still sitting pretty with her nasty bully smug face while pretending she's far better and superior than Hope when she's NOT.:frown

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LadyMac @, 7/5/2023, 3:33PM (307 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.


I also think Steffy is gleeful now and is going to use this to oust Hope. Brooke will balk, but if she wants to keep peace at home, she will stay out of it. If Steffy wants to oust Hope it will be fairly easy. She will call a family meeting at FC, as it is family and business. I am sure Taylor will be there too. Steffy will make her case to Ridge, Eric and Taylor that Hope and Tom should not be working together because Tom has been doing so much better, he is at the peak of his creativity, etc. and he does not need to be derailed by Hope and her drama and games. Ridge will try to see both sides, Taylor will be calculating which direction would be better for her to get Ridge back, and Eric will just be Eric. I am sure Taylor will be asked for her "expert opinion" on the matter....and who knows with this bunch, but they may insist if Hope is going to keep working with Tom, she has to go into therapy with Taylor. LOL. That would be the ultimate one-two slap to Brooke, Hope and Liam. The final throwing under the bus of anyone not connected to that Hamilton Gang.

They have ousted many of the characters before, so why not oust Hope now? They ousted Rick for shooting the gun in the office where Caroline and Ridge were making out. They ousted Thorne for stealing designs and giving them to Spectre. They ousted Tom for the CPS call. They ousted Brooke for Berrygate, which did not even happen and was another Tom lie. They ousted Eric for cheating on Stephanie. They demoted Steffy for the "Ho* For The Future" stunt. I could easily see Hope getting ousted from FC altogether. Which may be why RJ is meeting with Wyatt and Liam in 5 weeks. Maybe he is trying to get them to help Hope out?


Except Steffy has far more scandals than Hope..just in recent years, she's done plenty of scandalous adulteries plus paternity tests..so when is she gonna get ousted as a co-CEO? She's still sitting pretty with her nasty bully smug face while pretending she's far better and superior than Hope when she's NOT.:frown

You would think pulling a knife on people while you're high around your infant child would be worse than a kiss..... If Steffy cans Hope, I hope the Logans write a tell-all about bully Steffy and all her skeletons come pouring out the closet.

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Bridge4Evr, 7/5/2023, 3:59PM (307 days ago) @matisse

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.


I also think Steffy is gleeful now and is going to use this to oust Hope. Brooke will balk, but if she wants to keep peace at home, she will stay out of it. If Steffy wants to oust Hope it will be fairly easy. She will call a family meeting at FC, as it is family and business. I am sure Taylor will be there too. Steffy will make her case to Ridge, Eric and Taylor that Hope and Tom should not be working together because Tom has been doing so much better, he is at the peak of his creativity, etc. and he does not need to be derailed by Hope and her drama and games. Ridge will try to see both sides, Taylor will be calculating which direction would be better for her to get Ridge back, and Eric will just be Eric. I am sure Taylor will be asked for her "expert opinion" on the matter....and who knows with this bunch, but they may insist if Hope is going to keep working with Tom, she has to go into therapy with Taylor. LOL. That would be the ultimate one-two slap to Brooke, Hope and Liam. The final throwing under the bus of anyone not connected to that Hamilton Gang.

They have ousted many of the characters before, so why not oust Hope now? They ousted Rick for shooting the gun in the office where Caroline and Ridge were making out. They ousted Thorne for stealing designs and giving them to Spectre. They ousted Tom for the CPS call. They ousted Brooke for Berrygate, which did not even happen and was another Tom lie. They ousted Eric for cheating on Stephanie. They demoted Steffy for the "Ho* For The Future" stunt. I could easily see Hope getting ousted from FC altogether. Which may be why RJ is meeting with Wyatt and Liam in 5 weeks. Maybe he is trying to get them to help Hope out?

How do we know this is going to happen?

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Sammy @, 7/5/2023, 4:15PM (307 days ago) @Bridge4Evr

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Hope has put her hand on her husband many many times before....long before she ever touched that creep's face.:oh

And of course, Steffy will go for blood now..after all, this is a bully, a ringleader who declared a war against Brooke and Hope when they did absolutely nothing to Steffy or any of her family members at the time. Steffy never needed a reason to be vindictive and vile..and now Hope just gave her a weapon to use against her. Of course, Steffy will destroy Hope now.

Thomas is the one who claimed to his family that even if Hope throws herself at him, he wouldn't do anything. Yet, Hope did just that and he CHOSE to happily go along with her. He's a grown a$$ man making his own choices/decisions..HE derail himself IMO.


I also think Steffy is gleeful now and is going to use this to oust Hope. Brooke will balk, but if she wants to keep peace at home, she will stay out of it. If Steffy wants to oust Hope it will be fairly easy. She will call a family meeting at FC, as it is family and business. I am sure Taylor will be there too. Steffy will make her case to Ridge, Eric and Taylor that Hope and Tom should not be working together because Tom has been doing so much better, he is at the peak of his creativity, etc. and he does not need to be derailed by Hope and her drama and games. Ridge will try to see both sides, Taylor will be calculating which direction would be better for her to get Ridge back, and Eric will just be Eric. I am sure Taylor will be asked for her "expert opinion" on the matter....and who knows with this bunch, but they may insist if Hope is going to keep working with Tom, she has to go into therapy with Taylor. LOL. That would be the ultimate one-two slap to Brooke, Hope and Liam. The final throwing under the bus of anyone not connected to that Hamilton Gang.

They have ousted many of the characters before, so why not oust Hope now? They ousted Rick for shooting the gun in the office where Caroline and Ridge were making out. They ousted Thorne for stealing designs and giving them to Spectre. They ousted Tom for the CPS call. They ousted Brooke for Berrygate, which did not even happen and was another Tom lie. They ousted Eric for cheating on Stephanie. They demoted Steffy for the "Ho* For The Future" stunt. I could easily see Hope getting ousted from FC altogether. Which may be why RJ is meeting with Wyatt and Liam in 5 weeks. Maybe he is trying to get them to help Hope out?


How do we know this is going to happen?

No one knows what is going to happen. I just read a bit of the post. I lose interested in the pages long post.
As much junk that has happened on this so to get that dedicated to just a kiss. Boogies my mind

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Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 2:43PM (307 days ago) @matisse

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope possibly derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have been JUST Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be out for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating this mess that has now put her in a position that she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn. Steffy is savvy and she knows things were going smoothly with all the co-parenting, but now Hope has really mucked it all up.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they, of all people, could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK

I do hope thope has sex …make this show interesting

SPOILERS.....Today's show

jammer, The BURGH, 7/5/2023, 3:32PM (307 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope possibly derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have been JUST Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be out for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating this mess that has now put her in a position that she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn. Steffy is savvy and she knows things were going smoothly with all the co-parenting, but now Hope has really mucked it all up.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they, of all people, could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


I do hope thope has sex …make this show interesting

I hope so too and Hope throws up during. LOL

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Liz @, 7/5/2023, 2:44PM (307 days ago) @matisse- 2 people liked this

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK

Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.

SPOILERS.....Today's show

Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 2:55PM (307 days ago) @Liz

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.

Bridge is never solid give it six months that’s all they do breakup

SPOILERS.....Today's show

Liz @, 7/5/2023, 3:30PM (307 days ago) @Barbybo

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


Bridge is never solid give it six months that’s all they do breakup

They've been solid. Now, for how long they'll be solid this time around that's up to the writers.

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Bridge4Evr, 7/5/2023, 4:01PM (307 days ago) @Barbybo- 3 people liked this[O]

That actually is NOT all they do! It’s actually all others try to do TO them…break them up.

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matisse, 7/5/2023, 2:59PM (307 days ago) @Liz

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.

This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO

SPOILERS.....Today's show

Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 3:02PM (307 days ago) @matisse

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO

I think Liam’s being seen as what he is a cad

SPOILERS.....Today's show

Dreamgirl, 7/5/2023, 3:03PM (307 days ago) @matisse

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO

I still don't think they will be a legit couple. I cannot see Hope consciously deciding to be with him after she's said repeatedly that she doesn't want him. Especially when she's constantly acknowledging what he's done and how wrong it is for her to have feelings for him. It would be one thing if she says he's changed and she's forgiven him but I don't think she's said that. Even if/after her marriage ends I still don't see Thope getting together.

SPOILERS.....Today's show

Barbybo, 7/5/2023, 3:06PM (307 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO


I still don't think they will be a legit couple. I cannot see Hope consciously deciding to be with him after she's said repeatedly that she doesn't want him. Especially when she's constantly acknowledging what he's done and how wrong it is for her to have feelings for him. It would be one thing if she says he's changed and she's forgiven him but I don't think she's said that. Even if/after her marriage ends I still don't see Thope getting together.

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bellabean, 7/5/2023, 3:14PM (307 days ago) @Barbybo

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO


I still don't think they will be a legit couple. I cannot see Hope consciously deciding to be with him after she's said repeatedly that she doesn't want him. Especially when she's constantly acknowledging what he's done and how wrong it is for her to have feelings for him. It would be one thing if she says he's changed and she's forgiven him but I don't think she's said that. Even if/after her marriage ends I still don't see Thope getting together.


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Bridge are completely boring and ff material. Everyone is kissing everyone else, but only a problem if Hope kisses Thomas? The hypocrisy is off the wall here with this s/l. They all need to move on, in a hurry.

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Bridge4Evr, 7/5/2023, 4:03PM (307 days ago) @bellabean- one person liked this

I LOVE Bridge and never fast forward their scenes.

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mscherry, 7/5/2023, 4:56PM (307 days ago) @Bridge4Evr

Their scenes were great...dont see any post about Brooke not blaming TomTom for the kiss...bravo to Brooke for calming ridge down and explaining that it was hope and not tom...

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 3:19PM (307 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO


I still don't think they will be a legit couple. I cannot see Hope consciously deciding to be with him after she's said repeatedly that she doesn't want him. Especially when she's constantly acknowledging what he's done and how wrong it is for her to have feelings for him. It would be one thing if she says he's changed and she's forgiven him but I don't think she's said that. Even if/after her marriage ends I still don't see Thope getting together.

I would laugh so hard if, after all this, Hope never does get with Thomas and the end result of this story is Liam and Steffy back together. :oh

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Dreamgirl, 7/5/2023, 5:01PM (307 days ago) @Drangonfly

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO


I still don't think they will be a legit couple. I cannot see Hope consciously deciding to be with him after she's said repeatedly that she doesn't want him. Especially when she's constantly acknowledging what he's done and how wrong it is for her to have feelings for him. It would be one thing if she says he's changed and she's forgiven him but I don't think she's said that. Even if/after her marriage ends I still don't see Thope getting together.


I would laugh so hard if, after all this, Hope never does get with Thomas and the end result of this story is Liam and Steffy back together. :oh

I wouldn't be surprised at all. I've said from the beginning that if Hope and Thomas do get together it would destroy the character of Hope in a way in which it would be difficult to come back. Already she looks awful to a lot of people but they have managed to lessen that somehow by having Liam kiss Steffy and reminding viewers that he's not exactly perfection himself. But if she and Thomas do become a legit couple, no amount of Leffy reruns can make that better, in my opinion.

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GracieGirl, 7/5/2023, 3:12PM (307 days ago) @matisse
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JMHO, this story bombed with the sound effects. It made Hope look goofy. The video of Hope on the prowl like a lioness with weird sound effects was the icing on the cake. Thomas never responded in those videos. Hope is in control. That told me what I needed to know.

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matisse, 7/5/2023, 3:28PM (307 days ago) @GracieGirl

JMHO, this story bombed with the sound effects. It made Hope look goofy. The video of Hope on the prowl like a lioness with weird sound effects was the icing on the cake. Thomas never responded in those videos. Hope is in control. That told me what I needed to know.

I was comparing many of the "romantic" moments on the show the last year. Thope is the big loser, they had no romance to them. Sinn in Monte Carlo with the beautiful Italian music. Bridge in Rome, when he runs to her and they play the Bridge music which is very romantic. Even Tridge in Aspen, the music was very pretty and very melodic. Thope did not even get the sad music of regret or longing, nada. Thope got strange horror movie heartbeats and creepy music like you hear at a Halloween haunted house. WTH?

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 3:31PM (307 days ago) @matisse

JMHO, this story bombed with the sound effects. It made Hope look goofy. The video of Hope on the prowl like a lioness with weird sound effects was the icing on the cake. Thomas never responded in those videos. Hope is in control. That told me what I needed to know.


I was comparing many of the "romantic" moments on the show the last year. Thope is the big loser, they had no romance to them. Sinn in Monte Carlo with the beautiful Italian music. Bridge in Rome, when he runs to her and they play the Bridge music which is very romantic. Even Tridge in Aspen, the music was very pretty and very melodic. Thope did not even get the sad music of regret or longing, nada. Thope got strange horror movie heartbeats and creepy music like you hear at a Halloween haunted house. WTH?

That's because it's really a Lope story.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Liz @, 7/5/2023, 3:27PM (307 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have just been Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be about for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating his mess that has now got her in a position she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they have all people could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK


Thanks so much for the update. Nice to hear Brooke and Ridge are talking about the situation with cool heads. I'm really not sure how these stories are going to progress. With 4 children, I wonder whether JMW will be rushing to get back to work once she gives birth. If that's the case, what would be the story for Steffy, As for the Hope/Thomas story, seems kind of weird to go in that direction if Ridge/Brooke are solid. Mom/Dad and Son/Daughter just seem so weird.


This testing the waters for Thope has gone on way too long....and I think there must be a reason. Either they have no other story to tell because of the writers strike, or the feedback is more negative than positive for Thope, and they are trying to dance as fast as they can dirtying other characters up, to put Thope across. Either way, I think from a viewer perspective, they have dragged this on too long, and IMHO any spark Thope had, any chemistry they had, is dwindling fast. I loathe the idea of Thope, so I don't see their spark, but I do read other boards, and their spark is waning with some who wanted them. JMO

For me, I couldn't get past the unappealing part of their relationship so there's never been chemistry for me and I'm going way way back to the Cabo days when the show teased them. And, like you, I feel that they've dragged this story out for far too long. A slow build was never going to erase the disgust of Thomas nor the years that Hope didn't even give Thomas a second thought.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/5/2023, 3:32PM (307 days ago) @matisse- 2 people liked this

It´s certainly not Hope´s fault if Liam thinks he can go and kiss his ex whenever he likes.
And it is not Hope´s fault if Steffy decides not to tell Finn.
This is on Liam and Steffy only.

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Viola, 7/5/2023, 3:35PM (307 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Just watched todays show. Hope was an absolute fool to try and put her hand on Liam's face like she did with Tom....Liam looked repulsed when she did it.

She is in the dress she has on when she kisses Tom, so she must hightail it over to Tom after she talks with Liam. I am guessing Liam just tells her they are done, and she says "okay" and then runs to Tom. Or, Liam tells her they can try to make it work, but she cannot work with Tom anymore if it is going to work between them. And then she says "I cannot do that" and then hightails it over to Tom. Or, Liam tells her that he kissed Steffy and Hope gets mad and hightails it to Tom. Bottom line here is, Lope is using Tom and Steffy as their personal toilets to just use and flush at will.

Hope once again has told RJ and Liam that basically Tom is a bad person. But at least today she admitted she was to blame for putting herself in a gilded cage and setting high standards, and she just wanted to find out what it would be life to do something impulsive and to feel free. And she said something I think about it not being so good, and it was her fault.

Oooooh Steffy is going to go for Hope's throat. JMO. She was angry about Hope possibly derailing Tom's hard work and that Tom was the creative end of HFTF, and he said it was Hope's ideas, and Steffy said without Tom they would have been JUST Hope's unrealized ideas. Steffy looked like her granny today....and I think she is going to be out for blood. I think we may also find out that she blames Hope for creating this mess that has now put her in a position that she is keeping something from the man she loves, which is Finn. Steffy is savvy and she knows things were going smoothly with all the co-parenting, but now Hope has really mucked it all up.

Brooke told Ridge it was all Hope's fault, and they had a nice back and forth about how they, of all people, could understand all sides in this mess. It was great to see them on the same page and being a united and loving couple.

I am wondering now if Hope goes to kiss Tom because of something she said to RJ about it was all just a fantasy in her mind, and when she said that line, it was like a lightbulb went on in her brain. So I could almost see her going to Tom and kissing him as a test for herself and maybe for him. IDK

I guess Hope should never let Liam kiss her or have sex with her after he did all that with Steffy? She can never touch his face again?

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Bridge4Evr, 7/5/2023, 3:47PM (307 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

I loved Bridge discussing the Thope situation! I loved that Brooke set Ridge straight about it being Hope and not Thomas and I love that they’re addressing the whole thing as a united front, no angst and no fighting over their kids.

I also loved RJ being there for his sister, letting her vent and talk, just what she needs right now.

I hated Steffy and her always-uppity attitude. She just makes me sick. She always acts like her mess don’t stink, like she’s so much better than. While she wants to knock Hope and accuse her of playing on Thomas’ feelings, she, herself is keeping major secrets from her husband.

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bellabean, 7/5/2023, 3:50PM (307 days ago) @Bridge4Evr

I loved Bridge discussing the Thope situation! I loved that Brooke set Ridge straight about it being Hope and not Thomas and I love that they’re addressing the whole thing as a united front, no angst and no fighting over their kids.

I also loved RJ being there for his sister, letting her vent and talk, just what she needs right now.

I hated Steffy and her always-uppity attitude. She just makes me sick. She always acts like her mess don’t stink, like she’s so much better than. While she wants to knock Hope and accuse her of playing on Thomas’ feelings, she, herself is keeping major secrets from her husband.

Bridge are downright boring.

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DC, 7/5/2023, 4:05PM (307 days ago) @bellabean

I loved Bridge discussing the Thope situation! I loved that Brooke set Ridge straight about it being Hope and not Thomas and I love that they’re addressing the whole thing as a united front, no angst and no fighting over their kids.

I also loved RJ being there for his sister, letting her vent and talk, just what she needs right now.

I hated Steffy and her always-uppity attitude. She just makes me sick. She always acts like her mess don’t stink, like she’s so much better than. While she wants to knock Hope and accuse her of playing on Thomas’ feelings, she, herself is keeping major secrets from her husband.


Bridge are downright boring.

The writers really need to do something for these two, such a hugh bore, and that blouse was simply awful.

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Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 4:05PM (307 days ago) @Bridge4Evr- one person liked this

I loved Bridge discussing the Thope situation! I loved that Brooke set Ridge straight about it being Hope and not Thomas and I love that they’re addressing the whole thing as a united front, no angst and no fighting over their kids.

I also loved RJ being there for his sister, letting her vent and talk, just what she needs right now.

I hated Steffy and her always-uppity attitude. She just makes me sick. She always acts like her mess don’t stink, like she’s so much better than. While she wants to knock Hope and accuse her of playing on Thomas’ feelings, she, herself is keeping major secrets from her husband.

Agree with all of this. Brooke told Ridge everything and he was very understanding. Steffy, of course, will want to use the situation to hurt Hope. That's been her MO for years. I hope Finn finds out about the kisses from Liam and leaves her. That would knock that judgemental smirk off her face.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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