Hope and Liam (General)

Maybe they made Tom a real villain so Liam looks better compared to him?

I don’t think Liam can look better regardless

Thomas has done a lot of nasty things over the years so it wasn’t out of character for him to act the way he has.

Thing is, Liam isn’t out of character either here. I just never knew he could get as lowdown as he has here, yelling at Hope in her face after forcing her to “repeat after me” and this after he had kissed Steffy! Then he went and did it again with no respect for Finn or the Sinn family. He’s reached a new low.

They are bad for each other. I’m ready for Lope to end. I don’t know why THE TPTB don’t understand the damage done to the character Liam with these antics. Now, Hope has been dragged under the bus for Thope. This entire plot is one big mess because for many of us it’s just irritating. It’s not fun or soapy. Thope nor Lope and not even Sinn can match Quinn and Carter, Deacon and Brooke, Ridge and Caroline, Brooke and Bill, and Donna and Eric. I’m bored with this wishy washy fickle generation. No Thope for me. No Lope for me. Good riddance to them.

I see people are upset at Thomas. I get it. My thing is if Thomas is taken out of the equation and doesn’t exist, Liam is no better. I don’t feel sorry for him, I don’t care if he gets hurt or alone. To me Liam isn’t a good person either. I don’t want Lope ever again

Liam didn't lie about a child being dead knowing said child was alive. Liam didn't kill anyone intentionally. Liam didn't set fire to Rick's home with Rick in it, nor did Liam bomb Rick's car not knowing who could be in it. Liam has his faults, but no one is as bad as Thomas.

So! He doesn’t have to do those things to be bad, Liam can be bad all by himself. Listing the misdeeds of someone else doesn’t make Liam look any better. I was talking about Liam

Ridge is a jerk as well. But I don’t remember him ever getting up in Brooke or Taylor’s face and screaming at them. They took Liam too far lately.

And some of us hate Ridge as much as we do Liam.... I have never been a Liam fan and Ridge became a disgusting creep when he left his infant son and Brooke for Taylor.. This after what he said to Brooke that he needed to be with his infant son and Taylor many years ago. Ridge was a mommy's boy doing what the bully instructed him to do.

I don’t like men yelling in women’s faces - but I know when people are hurt and emotional they do stupid things!
Hope married Wyatt!
Obviously this was the story Bell was going to do last year but something fell through. It is almost the SAME story. The only difference is the fashion show was in LA last year and Hope stopped the kiss.
They are throwing Hope and Liam under the bus. Is it to legitimize Thomas?
Also we know Sally has left or is leaving Y&R.
Could she be Liam’s or Thomas’ love interest?
Could they team up to make things tougher on a Lope reunion if it’s not Steffy?
This may be interesting!
Liam will not remain a bad guy.

Here is the thing. I haven’t liked Liam for years. Long before Thomas. Liam has cheated on every woman and never any consequences. Also he always cheated in a way he felt justified. It wasn’t just Hope and Steffy, there was also Ivy (I think was her name).
Liam isn’t a good man. Not sure I would even call him a man. He is a boy who feels privileged. He always has the right to do as he pleases.
No one can throw Liam under the bus, he has been there on his own.
He isn’t the next Ridge. Liam doesn’t have the class
Liam is nothing, he has nothing and he isn’t worth a tear drop. JMO

Also how I feel about Liam has nothing to do with Thomas or anyone else