I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF (General)

matisse, 7/4/2023, 1:02AM (304 days ago)

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Soapisfun, 7/4/2023, 2:13AM (304 days ago) @matisse

It would be wrong and it would do any good to Lope if Hope is not the one who takes the decision.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

ReturnedBBFan, 7/4/2023, 2:26AM (304 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.

I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 2:31AM (304 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

Or Tom could say he needs Hope on the line or the line would suffer?

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

hopeyougogirl, 7/4/2023, 2:39AM (304 days ago) @Lizzy54

Or Tom could say he needs Hope on the line or the line would suffer?

In that case, he doesn't care about Lope's marriage to begin with..he did claim that he respect their marriage and as flawed as Liam is, Thomas also knows that Hope loves Liam.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 2:50AM (303 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Well, I am totally conviced that Tom doesn´t care one bit about Lope´s marriage. He cares about Hope and he really may be changed (I think we will soon find out if he is) but he certainly is no saint. He probably would like Hope being free from Liam, changed man or not.
I know you like Liam but I have to confess I also would rather have Hope free from Liam...the way he behaved lately was really awful! He has no respect for his wife, not only the way he interrogated her but also his kissing Steffy twice though he blamed Hope for kissing Tom was a shame!:roll

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

hopeyougogirl, 7/4/2023, 3:47AM (303 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this

Well, I am totally conviced that Tom doesn´t care one bit about Lope´s marriage. He cares about Hope and he really may be changed (I think we will soon find out if he is) but he certainly is no saint. He probably would like Hope being free from Liam, changed man or not.
I know you like Liam but I have to confess I also would rather have Hope free from Liam...the way he behaved lately was really awful! He has no respect for his wife, not only the way he interrogated her but also his kissing Steffy twice though he blamed Hope for kissing Tom was a shame!:roll

I don’t like Liam’s stupid behaviors lately..he’s butt hurt and reacting with his old bad habits. But I’m not convinced that Thomas is fully changed either..he’s still giving me very creepy vibes. His feelings for a married Hope is unhealthy IMO.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 6:17AM (303 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Maybe, yes. Usually when Tom was obsessing we got hints, like him talking to himself or having fantasies about her kissing him.
This time it´s the other way round, we got Hope´s fantasies...if Tom has fantasies too we can only guess.
At the moment I accept that he has changed but I think if he is not we will find out sooner or later.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

ReturnedBBFan, 7/4/2023, 6:39AM (303 days ago) @Lizzy54

Todays episode has Thomas flashing back to Rome, but I wasn’t getting obsessed, more like he was trying to shake it off… like “nope don’t want to go there again”.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 6:47AM (303 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I would be glad if he is over his obsession now.
If Hope and he really got together it should be in a healthy way.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

hopeyougogirl, 7/4/2023, 1:01PM (303 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

Todays episode has Thomas flashing back to Rome, but I wasn’t getting obsessed, more like he was trying to shake it off… like “nope don’t want to go there again”.

This ain't the first time he had a flashback. Prior to Rome, he was constantly shown flashing back to their hand holding. He's constantly looking at a married Hope's picture too..even yesterday, he looked at it AGAIN.:whistle The man has no life outside of HFTF line and is still always at FC sketching nonstop.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

hopeyougogirl, 7/4/2023, 12:20PM (303 days ago) @Lizzy54

Maybe, yes. Usually when Tom was obsessing we got hints, like him talking to himself or having fantasies about her kissing him.
This time it´s the other way round, we got Hope´s fantasies...if Tom has fantasies too we can only guess.
At the moment I accept that he has changed but I think if he is not we will find out sooner or later.

He has been shown constantly flashing back to Thope moments no different than Hope's flashbacks IMO. He still lives breathes everything Hope Hope Hope. He has no life outside of HFTF. All he does is sitting there drawing like freak. Just plain weird to this viewer.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

matisse, 7/4/2023, 7:21AM (303 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Well, I am totally conviced that Tom doesn´t care one bit about Lope´s marriage. He cares about Hope and he really may be changed (I think we will soon find out if he is) but he certainly is no saint. He probably would like Hope being free from Liam, changed man or not.
I know you like Liam but I have to confess I also would rather have Hope free from Liam...the way he behaved lately was really awful! He has no respect for his wife, not only the way he interrogated her but also his kissing Steffy twice though he blamed Hope for kissing Tom was a shame!:roll


I don’t like Liam’s stupid behaviors lately..he’s butt hurt and reacting with his old bad habits. But I’m not convinced that Thomas is fully changed either..he’s still giving me very creepy vibes. His feelings for a married Hope is unhealthy IMO.

He is giving me creepy vibes too, but that just may be the way I will always feel about creepy Tom. There does seem to be something off with him too. It all seems so phony. IMO, looking at the kiss later this week, the bloom feels like it is off the Thope rose, so to speak. I can admit they seemed to have passion, but I think that chemistry is waning and fading with the way they have dragged this out, and the way they have done them. I do not think Tom is good enough for Hope because of Beth, but now I think they are already getting stale, because of how long this has taken, without it being romantic, just strange. I think this SL shifted with SC's stellar performance last week, and what was once a Thope SL is now going to be a Liam SL. JMO, but I don't think Thope is going to be the main attraction anymore. Tom has been front and center way too long now. He has been involved with every single SL since last NYE. I think it will be time for a Tom break, much like the Bill break we have been having now for months. Tom had his sticky little fingers in the "why did I drink" saga. He was a featured player in the "Parent Trap" arc. Then he was front and center with the whole "I am taking Douglas for the night but never bringing him home again" saga, and then there was "CPS and the ruined wedding" and now we have "HFTF Superhero". I find it hard to believe Bell is going to put him front and center with a Thope SL. This show does not seem to work that way. BB seems more of a show where the actors queue up and wait, then when Bell yells out "NEXT" it is their turn to be front SL. Last year was all Taylor and her kids. Taylor is almost MIA lately, JMW has been mostly a support player this year, so I just don't feel them doing Thope as anything more than a sidebar to a more front and center Liam SL.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 7:41AM (303 days ago) @matisse

Well, I at least don't need a Liam story. I couldn't care less what happens to him, I just want him gone so he cannot hurt Hope anymore.
If Bell thinks after playing "bad cop" with Hope Liam would be the hero of a new story, he should better think twice. He doesn't want Hope (thank God), Steffy doesn't want him, he can go and fight Zende for Paris or Carter for Katie, I just don't care.:roll

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

matisse, 7/4/2023, 8:04AM (303 days ago) @Lizzy54

Well, I at least don't need a Liam story. I couldn't care less what happens to him, I just want him gone so he cannot hurt Hope anymore.
If Bell thinks after playing "bad cop" with Hope Liam would be the hero of a new story, he should better think twice. He doesn't want Hope (thank God), Steffy doesn't want him, he can go and fight Zende for Paris or Carter for Katie, I just don't care.:roll

SC is a power hitter on this show, so I doubt Liam is going to be sent to the minor league anytime soon. Especially after all the rave reviews he got last week for his scene with Hope. SOD was saying this is his next Emmy, and so were the other online legitimate soap sites. Along with a reviewer for Entertainment News.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 8:09AM (303 days ago) @matisse

I agree about SC, he is a very good actor and should get an Emmy.:cool
But this doesn't mean I have to like Liam. :roll

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/4/2023, 8:40AM (303 days ago) @Lizzy54

Well, I at least don't need a Liam story. I couldn't care less what happens to him, I just want him gone so he cannot hurt Hope anymore.
If Bell thinks after playing "bad cop" with Hope Liam would be the hero of a new story, he should better think twice. He doesn't want Hope (thank God), Steffy doesn't want him, he can go and fight Zende for Paris or Carter for Katie, I just don't care.:roll

Sounds like a good idea

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

hopeyougogirl, 7/4/2023, 12:29PM (303 days ago) @matisse

Well, I am totally conviced that Tom doesn´t care one bit about Lope´s marriage. He cares about Hope and he really may be changed (I think we will soon find out if he is) but he certainly is no saint. He probably would like Hope being free from Liam, changed man or not.
I know you like Liam but I have to confess I also would rather have Hope free from Liam...the way he behaved lately was really awful! He has no respect for his wife, not only the way he interrogated her but also his kissing Steffy twice though he blamed Hope for kissing Tom was a shame!:roll


I don’t like Liam’s stupid behaviors lately..he’s butt hurt and reacting with his old bad habits. But I’m not convinced that Thomas is fully changed either..he’s still giving me very creepy vibes. His feelings for a married Hope is unhealthy IMO.


He is giving me creepy vibes too, but that just may be the way I will always feel about creepy Tom. There does seem to be something off with him too. It all seems so phony. IMO, looking at the kiss later this week, the bloom feels like it is off the Thope rose, so to speak. I can admit they seemed to have passion, but I think that chemistry is waning and fading with the way they have dragged this out, and the way they have done them. I do not think Tom is good enough for Hope because of Beth, but now I think they are already getting stale, because of how long this has taken, without it being romantic, just strange. I think this SL shifted with SC's stellar performance last week, and what was once a Thope SL is now going to be a Liam SL. JMO, but I don't think Thope is going to be the main attraction anymore. Tom has been front and center way too long now. He has been involved with every single SL since last NYE. I think it will be time for a Tom break, much like the Bill break we have been having now for months. Tom had his sticky little fingers in the "why did I drink" saga. He was a featured player in the "Parent Trap" arc. Then he was front and center with the whole "I am taking Douglas for the night but never bringing him home again" saga, and then there was "CPS and the ruined wedding" and now we have "HFTF Superhero". I find it hard to believe Bell is going to put him front and center with a Thope SL. This show does not seem to work that way. BB seems more of a show where the actors queue up and wait, then when Bell yells out "NEXT" it is their turn to be front SL. Last year was all Taylor and her kids. Taylor is almost MIA lately, JMW has been mostly a support player this year, so I just don't feel them doing Thope as anything more than a sidebar to a more front and center Liam SL.

Agree that the story shifted, but it won't be just a Liam s/l, it'll be Hope as well..after all, Lope are the well established main couple just like Bridge. They will break up and it will be about them finding ways back to each other just like Bridge. I view Thope as just a temporary placeholder no different than Hott/Leffy. JMO.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Barbybo, 7/4/2023, 7:39PM (303 days ago) @matisse

Well, I am totally conviced that Tom doesn´t care one bit about Lope´s marriage. He cares about Hope and he really may be changed (I think we will soon find out if he is) but he certainly is no saint. He probably would like Hope being free from Liam, changed man or not.
I know you like Liam but I have to confess I also would rather have Hope free from Liam...the way he behaved lately was really awful! He has no respect for his wife, not only the way he interrogated her but also his kissing Steffy twice though he blamed Hope for kissing Tom was a shame!:roll


I don’t like Liam’s stupid behaviors lately..he’s butt hurt and reacting with his old bad habits. But I’m not convinced that Thomas is fully changed either..he’s still giving me very creepy vibes. His feelings for a married Hope is unhealthy IMO.


He is giving me creepy vibes too, but that just may be the way I will always feel about creepy Tom. There does seem to be something off with him too. It all seems so phony. IMO, looking at the kiss later this week, the bloom feels like it is off the Thope rose, so to speak. I can admit they seemed to have passion, but I think that chemistry is waning and fading with the way they have dragged this out, and the way they have done them. I do not think Tom is good enough for Hope because of Beth, but now I think they are already getting stale, because of how long this has taken, without it being romantic, just strange. I think this SL shifted with SC's stellar performance last week, and what was once a Thope SL is now going to be a Liam SL. JMO, but I don't think Thope is going to be the main attraction anymore. Tom has been front and center way too long now. He has been involved with every single SL since last NYE. I think it will be time for a Tom break, much like the Bill break we have been having now for months. Tom had his sticky little fingers in the "why did I drink" saga. He was a featured player in the "Parent Trap" arc. Then he was front and center with the whole "I am taking Douglas for the night but never bringing him home again" saga, and then there was "CPS and the ruined wedding" and now we have "HFTF Superhero". I find it hard to believe Bell is going to put him front and center with a Thope SL. This show does not seem to work that way. BB seems more of a show where the actors queue up and wait, then when Bell yells out "NEXT" it is their turn to be front SL. Last year was all Taylor and her kids. Taylor is almost MIA lately, JMW has been mostly a support player this year, so I just don't feel them doing Thope as anything more than a sidebar to a more front and center Liam SL.

Oh gawd you saying we’re getting whiney Liam a lot now:puke

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ReturnedBBFan, 7/4/2023, 6:37AM (303 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

I don’t think he cares about Lope’s marriage tbh. He does love Hope so he may do it under those circumstances :neutral

I doubt it though. I still think that choice will be an option that comes to Hope.

Thomas is still oblivious to the Lope breakup

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hopeyougogirl, 7/4/2023, 12:33PM (303 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I don’t think he cares about Lope’s marriage tbh. He does love Hope so he may do it under those circumstances :neutral

I doubt it though. I still think that choice will be an option that comes to Hope.

Thomas is still oblivious to the Lope breakup

Given everything he's done, I just don't see his feelings for Hope as genuine love at all..IMO, having feelings for a married/engaged/attached person isn't healthy love, it's pure obsession.
If he truly loved her, he would've told her the very minute he found out about Beth is alive.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

matisse, 7/4/2023, 7:00AM (303 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral

That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.

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Drangonfly @, 7/4/2023, 7:12AM (303 days ago) @matisse- 2 people liked this

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.

Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

matisse, 7/4/2023, 7:29AM (303 days ago) @Drangonfly

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops

Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.

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Drangonfly @, 7/4/2023, 7:36AM (303 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.

Hope actually runs the line. There is more to a line than the designer. But, it's funny how different working situations are considered now when just a short while ago it was work with Thomas or nothing.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/4/2023, 8:43AM (303 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.

It is Hope’s baby and always has been. It should remain with Hope. HFTF is thriving. It should never be pulled from Hope.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

matisse, 7/5/2023, 12:58PM (302 days ago) @Sammy

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.


It is Hope’s baby and always has been. It should remain with Hope. HFTF is thriving. It should never be pulled from Hope.

It is not her line....it belongs to FC. They paid for the R&D on it, they own it. Hope has fumbled the ball, time for her to be pulled out of the game and benched for awhile.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/5/2023, 1:46PM (302 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.


It is Hope’s baby and always has been. It should remain with Hope. HFTF is thriving. It should never be pulled from Hope.


It is not her line....it belongs to FC. They paid for the R&D on it, they own it. Hope has fumbled the ball, time for her to be pulled out of the game and benched for awhile.

She hasn’t fumbled anything and it is her line. This last show was a huge success. That is not fumbling. Whatever is going on in her personal life, hasn’t stopped HFTF being a success. As far as FC, they want success and HFTF is exactly that
Pulling her is most ridiculous

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 2:05PM (302 days ago) @Sammy

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.


It is Hope’s baby and always has been. It should remain with Hope. HFTF is thriving. It should never be pulled from Hope.


It is not her line....it belongs to FC. They paid for the R&D on it, they own it. Hope has fumbled the ball, time for her to be pulled out of the game and benched for awhile.


She hasn’t fumbled anything and it is her line. This last show was a huge success. That is not fumbling. Whatever is going on in her personal life, hasn’t stopped HFTF being a success. As far as FC, they want success and HFTF is exactly that
Pulling her is most ridiculous

Was funny today that Ridge wasn't the least bit annoyed when hearing that Hope kissed Thomas. He even compared it to how he and Brooke had done similar inappropriate things in the past. So much for derailing Thomas. :-D

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

q, 7/4/2023, 10:12AM (303 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.

Hope is more than just a muse. That is her line her ideas. The line has been successful long before Thomas got on board. If she is just a muse why was it necessary for her to put in the long hours working on it? She decides what goes and what stays.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

matisse, 7/5/2023, 1:08PM (302 days ago) @q

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.


Hope is more than just a muse. That is her line her ideas. The line has been successful long before Thomas got on board. If she is just a muse why was it necessary for her to put in the long hours working on it? She decides what goes and what stays.

IA that is who and what she use to do....but her values are not the same anymore, therefore, she no longer represents what the line is supposedly about. I was quoting directly from the show, it was written in for a reason and mentioned that her line stood for honesty, integrity and character, none of which she has right now. Tom is the talent. He is creative, he will be able to design without Hope's input...in fact maybe even better if he is truly changing. He is actually supposedly walking a path of betterment, truth, integrity, etc. Maybe HE should be the total line, the design and the messaging. They could stop with the strictly women's clothing and pull themselves into the 2020's and maybe Tom could design gender fluid clothing, that actually carried the same message of not lying about who you are, having integrity enough to stand up and do the right thing, even if it is hard. To not betray or harm others through selfish acts and selfish behavior. Right now Hope does not have a leg to stand on when it comes to doing the right thing. But, Tom does, if he is telling the truth right now.

We will see on Friday. If Tom tells her to not kiss him, and tells her to go home and to not consider him as a choice for herself, then he will show that he has changed. Because if he has really changed, he would know that all Hope does is trigger him to make bad choices for himself and it puts him in bad places, he would want to end that cycle with her.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/5/2023, 1:48PM (302 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.


Hope is more than just a muse. That is her line her ideas. The line has been successful long before Thomas got on board. If she is just a muse why was it necessary for her to put in the long hours working on it? She decides what goes and what stays.


IA that is who and what she use to do....but her values are not the same anymore, therefore, she no longer represents what the line is supposedly about. I was quoting directly from the show, it was written in for a reason and mentioned that her line stood for honesty, integrity and character, none of which she has right now. Tom is the talent. He is creative, he will be able to design without Hope's input...in fact maybe even better if he is truly changing. He is actually supposedly walking a path of betterment, truth, integrity, etc. Maybe HE should be the total line, the design and the messaging. They could stop with the strictly women's clothing and pull themselves into the 2020's and maybe Tom could design gender fluid clothing, that actually carried the same message of not lying about who you are, having integrity enough to stand up and do the right thing, even if it is hard. To not betray or harm others through selfish acts and selfish behavior. Right now Hope does not have a leg to stand on when it comes to doing the right thing. But, Tom does, if he is telling the truth right now.

We will see on Friday. If Tom tells her to not kiss him, and tells her to go home and to not consider him as a choice for herself, then he will show that he has changed. Because if he has really changed, he would know that all Hope does is trigger him to make bad choices for himself and it puts him in bad places, he would want to end that cycle with her.

Far and beyond ridiculous. Hope still represents HFTF!

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

hopeyougogirl, 7/4/2023, 2:28PM (303 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.

Of course, this hateful bully can envision such a world..after all, she declared a war not just against Hope but BROOKE too..all last year, she bashed BROOKE to no end. In ringleader Steffy’s perfect world, she’d rid of BROOKE too, certainly not just Hope. LOL.

And Hope’s talent is her vision and she runs her line, no different than Steffy runs FC. And without Hope’s vision, Thomas’s talent in HFTF would be completely useless. Of course, they can use his talent elsewhere say in Couture line or his own line? JMO.

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/4/2023, 4:03PM (303 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Tom is the talent. Hope is not. Hope is the muse. Picasso changed his muses and still did quite well for himself. LOL. Another thing, I think there was a look and note of almost glee in her voice when she suggested letting Tom run HFTF, like she could envision a world without a Logan in it. Steffy does not like Hope, and she looks right now like she wishes she didn't have to co-parent with Liam, so maybe getting rid of Hope would just make Steffy's life a lot easier. And let's face it, I doubt Brooke would say too much about it, since she doesn't care for Tom and probably does not want Hope to rebound to him if Liam divorces her. Working together all the time, would almost guarantee a Thope hook-up.


Of course, this hateful bully can envision such a world..after all, she declared a war not just against Hope but BROOKE too..all last year, she bashed BROOKE to no end. In ringleader Steffy’s perfect world, she’d rid of BROOKE too, certainly not just Hope. LOL.

And Hope’s talent is her vision and she runs her line, no different than Steffy runs FC. And without Hope’s vision, Thomas’s talent in HFTF would be completely useless. Of course, they can use his talent elsewhere say in Couture line or his own line? JMO.

Evidently Thomas had a great deal of vision in the clothing and he shared with Hope and she agreed with him

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 7:44AM (303 days ago) @Drangonfly

If Liam forced her to give it up she would maybe but would hate him for it.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Viola, 7/4/2023, 8:43AM (303 days ago) @Drangonfly

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops

Steffy wouldn't mind of getting rid of the Logans.

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Drangonfly @, 7/4/2023, 9:42AM (303 days ago) @Viola- one person liked this

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.


Maybe just so Liam can use it as another one of his "tests". "If I agree to not get a divorce, will you agree to give up your career? No? That's what I thought." Then he can say he tried to save his marriage. Which would be gross because a woman shouldn't give up her career for a man. Steffy can just put Thomas on a different line.

It's funny how, a few months ago it was imperative that Hope and Thomas work together. Hire Thomas back or your line is gone. But now it will be fine with without Hope. :oops


Steffy wouldn't mind of getting rid of the Logans.

It was probably her goal right from the beginning. Isn't that what she's tried to do so many times?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Kammie @, 7/4/2023, 3:52PM (303 days ago) @Drangonfly

That is why I say that Steffy was the instigator and pot stirrer... She forced Hope to take Thomas back, she giggly told her mother that "Hope has to say yes" and "I wonder if this causes problems in their marriage". A week later Steffy got in Hope's face and accused her of being inappropriate with Thomas. Then a week or two late (after constant defending herself) we had Brooke say :bad boy" and the visions, hallucinations, and finally fantasies began. Then Steffy ran off to Liam and accused Hope of having feelings for Thomas.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/4/2023, 4:00PM (303 days ago) @Kammie

That is why I say that Steffy was the instigator and pot stirrer... She forced Hope to take Thomas back, she giggly told her mother that "Hope has to say yes" and "I wonder if this causes problems in their marriage". A week later Steffy got in Hope's face and accused her of being inappropriate with Thomas. Then a week or two late (after constant defending herself) we had Brooke say :bad boy" and the visions, hallucinations, and finally fantasies began. Then Steffy ran off to Liam and accused Hope of having feelings for Thomas.

Yes that did happen. Steffy is a pot stirrer for sure

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LadyMac @, 7/4/2023, 12:56PM (303 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.


I think option is going to come up somehow to be honest.

Maybe Liam suggests that as a way to fix their marriage and Hope refuses ?

Maybe Steffy pulls her off anyway and she fights to get back on?

Maybe Hope independently chooses to come off the line or Thomas takes himself off the line?

This choice may come into play somehow ..

:neutral


That is what I think too. Why did they write that line for Steffy to say....that Tom could take over HFTF? I think it was a hint that that was what was going to happen.

It would put Ridge in a pickle if it was suggested that RJ replace Thomas as a designer.

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Kammie @, 7/4/2023, 3:55PM (303 days ago) @LadyMac
edited by Kammie, 7/4/2023, 3:59PM

RJ may just step up and design for Hope... When he was on before, he was designing for HFTF some and everyone thought he had talent... It would be hilariously wonderful if RJ was a better designer than Thomas. A Logan and Ridge offspring talented enough to take Forester Creations to the next level.

Edited to Add: What if Hope decides to pursue sexual harassment charges and she agrees to settle by taking HFTF away from FC. Let this be her moment of taking complete control, like her mother did. Hope has a really good case.

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Drangonfly @, 7/5/2023, 1:11PM (302 days ago) @Kammie

RJ may just step up and design for Hope... When he was on before, he was designing for HFTF some and everyone thought he had talent... It would be hilariously wonderful if RJ was a better designer than Thomas. A Logan and Ridge offspring talented enough to take Forester Creations to the next level.

Edited to Add: What if Hope decides to pursue sexual harassment charges and she agrees to settle by taking HFTF away from FC. Let this be her moment of taking complete control, like her mother did. Hope has a really good case.

This is what I hope will happen. RJ taking over designing for Hope.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Viola, 7/4/2023, 6:46AM (303 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.

I think that she won't. Liam will want to divorce Hope anyway, based on the spoiler video. Liam won't let Hope fix this... So what is the sense of Hope leaving her own line? Hope will see Liam's inability to forgive her as green light to work on HFTF and act on her feelings. She won't be able to have Liam so why not kiss Thomas again. If Steffy will tell Hope to leave the line despite Liam divorcing Hope she will be simply bullying her.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/4/2023, 8:33AM (303 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.

It is Hope for the Future not Thomas, Steffy or Liam for the Future. It has always been Hope’s and should remain. Liam and Hope’s marriage is not Steffy’s to fix

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/4/2023, 8:45AM (303 days ago) @matisse

I thought during the Steffy/Liam dialog today when Liam said it would not matter, that Hope and Tom co-parent Douglas, but the real issue is their working together too. Steffy said maybe Tom could just take over HFTF, and Liam said no, Hope would not agree to it. Then Steffy got a look on her face, like that is what she could do to help Lope reunite, pull Hope off HFTF. I think that might be what she will do and might be the reason she goes to talk to Tom and ask him personal questions.

Hope is not a child. Steffy doesn’t need to treat her as such and punish her. It is Hope for the Future and has also been Hope’s thing.

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Tiqui1999 @, 7/4/2023, 10:14AM (303 days ago) @matisse

I hope she does pull Hope off it. Hope proved that she can't be professional, can't control herself, can't manage her public image, and puts the line at risk of scandal.

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

dxdobson, 7/4/2023, 10:48AM (303 days ago) @matisse- 2 people liked this

Looks like Liam is done with Hope over the kisses and lies and the person Hope kissed.
But why should Hope give up the line she created?
Again- Steffy started this whole mess by forcing Hope to hire Thomas because mommy Taylor asked her to, and stupid Brooke wanted to show Taylor they were friends.
Hope was wrong for kissing Thomas, but Liam is over the top with his reaction. This is a man who TWICE had sex with his ex.

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I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Lizzy54 @, Austria, 7/4/2023, 11:21AM (303 days ago) @dxdobson

Looks like Liam is done with Hope over the kisses and lies and the person Hope kissed.
But why should Hope give up the line she created?
Again- Steffy started this whole mess by forcing Hope to hire Thomas because mommy Taylor asked her to, and stupid Brooke wanted to show Taylor they were friends.
Hope was wrong for kissing Thomas, but Liam is over the top with his reaction. This is a man who TWICE had sex with his ex.

And he would have had sex with Steffy a third time if Steffy would have let it happen...he obviously took it for granted that Steffy would want him. He even took care to wait until Finn was gone.
I am very glad she turned him down! He certainly didn´t expect this!

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Barbybo, 7/4/2023, 1:24PM (303 days ago) @Lizzy54

Looks like Liam is done with Hope over the kisses and lies and the person Hope kissed.
But why should Hope give up the line she created?
Again- Steffy started this whole mess by forcing Hope to hire Thomas because mommy Taylor asked her to, and stupid Brooke wanted to show Taylor they were friends.
Hope was wrong for kissing Thomas, but Liam is over the top with his reaction. This is a man who TWICE had sex with his ex.


And he would have had sex with Steffy a third time if Steffy would have let it happen...he obviously took it for granted that Steffy would want him. He even took care to wait until Finn was gone.
I am very glad she turned him down! He certainly didn´t expect this!

What a cad hideing behind bushes I bet

I think Steffy is going to pull Hope off HFTF

Sammy @, 7/4/2023, 4:04PM (303 days ago) @Barbybo

Looks like Liam is done with Hope over the kisses and lies and the person Hope kissed.
But why should Hope give up the line she created?
Again- Steffy started this whole mess by forcing Hope to hire Thomas because mommy Taylor asked her to, and stupid Brooke wanted to show Taylor they were friends.
Hope was wrong for kissing Thomas, but Liam is over the top with his reaction. This is a man who TWICE had sex with his ex.


And he would have had sex with Steffy a third time if Steffy would have let it happen...he obviously took it for granted that Steffy would want him. He even took care to wait until Finn was gone.
I am very glad she turned him down! He certainly didn´t expect this!


What a cad hideing behind bushes I bet

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