Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past (General)
Hope: I forgave your mistakes with Steffy, so please forgive me. Where does this logic come from? The writers aren't consistent with this couple. If Hope is allowed to throw Liam and Steffy's past and use this as an argument to guilt trip him get his forgiveness, then he should be allowed to do the same in return.
Liam should fight back : I walked in on you making out with Oliver behind my back, and I forgave you. You dumped me for Oliver for things I didn't do, and I forgave you. I saw you kissing my brother in our home and I forgave you. I caught you kissing my brother the day of our wedding and I forgave you. You married my brother and slept with him when we were engaged, and I forgave you. You believed Othello's lies and wrongly accused me of something I didn't do and I forgave you. You let Thomas kiss you while I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. You annulled our marriage and married Thomas when I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. Liam may have amnesia when it comes to Hope, but I don't. She has cheated on him with 3 different men and cheated on these 3 men with him. It is totally unfair and biased writing that she gets to bring up Steffy over and over again when she gets caught cheating, but he isn't allowed to bring up her long list of mistakes. Makes me loathe Hope even more, if that's possible.
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Scarlet, 6/30/2023, 1:00PM (307 days ago) @BabyKelly- 5 people liked this![[OO]](themes/modern/images/score_2.svg "Popular Comment")
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Hope: I forgave your mistakes with Steffy, so please forgive me. Where does this logic come from? The writers aren't consistent with this couple. If Hope is allowed to throw Liam and Steffy's past and use this as an argument to guilt trip him get his forgiveness, then he should be allowed to do the same in return.
Liam should fight back : I walked in on you making out with Oliver behind my back, and I forgave you. You dumped me for Oliver for things I didn't do, and I forgave you. I saw you kissing my brother in our home and I forgave you. I caught you kissing my brother the day of our wedding and I forgave you. You married my brother and slept with him when we were engaged, and I forgave you. You believed Othello's lies and wrongly accused me of something I didn't do and I forgave you. You let Thomas kiss you while I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. You annulled our marriage and married Thomas when I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. Liam may have amnesia when it comes to Hope, but I don't. She has cheated on him with 3 different men and cheated on these 3 men with him. It is totally unfair and biased writing that she gets to bring up Steffy over and over again when she gets caught cheating, but he isn't allowed to bring up her long list of mistakes. Makes me loathe Hope even more, if that's possible.
Hope could kiss an entire football team and it still wouldn’t be sleeping with your husband’s father. And if we want to go there with the past, there is a hell of a lot Hope could bring up as well. Simply stating I’ve forgiven you for cheating, and it has been her forgiving Liam these past few years, isn’t throwing their entire past in their faces. You literally have to go back to 2013, ten years, which is the last time Hope has actually cheated on Liam. Thomas kissing Hope while she pushes him off is not the example you think it is ..
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
BBDOOLfan, 6/30/2023, 1:09PM (307 days ago) @Scarlet- 3 people liked this![[O]](themes/modern/images/score_1.svg "Popular Comment")
Exactly.
Kissing another is not remotely the same as having to get a paternity test because one SLEPT with another woman.
And Hope was transparent about being with both Liam and Wyatt back in the day.
She actually cheated ON Wyatt with Liam. And Liam asked her to abort Wyatt'schild when she refused to pretend the baby was Liam's.
Asking someone to abort a child and cheating on them for over a decade seems far more grievous of transgressions IMHO.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Exactly.
Kissing another is not remotely the same as having to get a paternity test because one SLEPT with another woman.
And Hope was transparent about being with both Liam and Wyatt back in the day.
She actually cheated ON Wyatt with Liam. And Liam asked her to abort Wyatt'schild when she refused to pretend the baby was Liam's.
Asking someone to abort a child and cheating on them for over a decade seems far more grievous of transgressions IMHO.
Well said, I will never understand why Hope being with Wyatt and Liam is constantly brought up like she was sleeping with both them both at same time or wasn’t transparent while dating them . They were both single and up for dating the same girl
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Exactly.
Kissing another is not remotely the same as having to get a paternity test because one SLEPT with another woman.
And Hope was transparent about being with both Liam and Wyatt back in the day.
She actually cheated ON Wyatt with Liam. And Liam asked her to abort Wyatt'schild when she refused to pretend the baby was Liam's.
Asking someone to abort a child and cheating on them for over a decade seems far more grievous of transgressions IMHO.
Well said, I will never understand why Hope being with Wyatt and Liam is constantly brought up like she was sleeping with both them both at same time or wasn’t transparent while dating them . They were both single and up for dating the same girl
Taylor did it first in the 90's. She dated both Ridge and Thorne at the same time. Nobody brings this up at all.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Exactly.
Kissing another is not remotely the same as having to get a paternity test because one SLEPT with another woman.
And Hope was transparent about being with both Liam and Wyatt back in the day.
She actually cheated ON Wyatt with Liam. And Liam asked her to abort Wyatt'schild when she refused to pretend the baby was Liam's.
Asking someone to abort a child and cheating on them for over a decade seems far more grievous of transgressions IMHO.
Well said, I will never understand why Hope being with Wyatt and Liam is constantly brought up like she was sleeping with both them both at same time or wasn’t transparent while dating them . They were both single and up for dating the same girl
Taylor did it first in the 90's. She dated both Ridge and Thorne at the same time. Nobody brings this up at all.
Interesting, her stuff is usually conveniently forgotten. It reminds me of people bringing up Brooke “hiding” Thomas to absolve Thomas in Beth gate. Like if Brooke was Thomas , then Taylor was Flo since she is the one who hid him in the first place
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Exactly.
Kissing another is not remotely the same as having to get a paternity test because one SLEPT with another woman.
And Hope was transparent about being with both Liam and Wyatt back in the day.
She actually cheated ON Wyatt with Liam. And Liam asked her to abort Wyatt'schild when she refused to pretend the baby was Liam's.
Asking someone to abort a child and cheating on them for over a decade seems far more grievous of transgressions IMHO.
Well said, I will never understand why Hope being with Wyatt and Liam is constantly brought up like she was sleeping with both them both at same time or wasn’t transparent while dating them . They were both single and up for dating the same girl
Taylor did it first in the 90's. She dated both Ridge and Thorne at the same time. Nobody brings this up at all.
Interesting, her stuff is usually conveniently forgotten. It reminds me of people bringing up Brooke “hiding” Thomas to absolve Thomas in Beth gate. Like if Brooke was Thomas , then Taylor was Flo since she is the one who hid him in the first place
And it wasn't even the same because Ridge didn't have to grieve a baby's death because of their actions.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Exactly.
Kissing another is not remotely the same as having to get a paternity test because one SLEPT with another woman.
And Hope was transparent about being with both Liam and Wyatt back in the day.
She actually cheated ON Wyatt with Liam. And Liam asked her to abort Wyatt'schild when she refused to pretend the baby was Liam's.
Asking someone to abort a child and cheating on them for over a decade seems far more grievous of transgressions IMHO.
Well said, I will never understand why Hope being with Wyatt and Liam is constantly brought up like she was sleeping with both them both at same time or wasn’t transparent while dating them . They were both single and up for dating the same girl
Taylor did it first in the 90's. She dated both Ridge and Thorne at the same time. Nobody brings this up at all.
Interesting, her stuff is usually conveniently forgotten. It reminds me of people bringing up Brooke “hiding” Thomas to absolve Thomas in Beth gate. Like if Brooke was Thomas , then Taylor was Flo since she is the one who hid him in the first place
And it wasn't even the same because Ridge didn't have to grieve a baby's death because of their actions.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Lizzy54 
, Austria, 6/30/2023, 1:12PM (307 days ago) @Scarlet- 2 people liked this
No. Hope didn´t marry Tom because she was in love with him. She married him because she was grieving too. I don´t understand why it should only be Liam who was grieving. Hope was grieving too and she thought that she was meant to be little Douglas mother and Liam should be with Steffy to be with his child, Kelly.
She did this becaus she was half crazy with grief, not cheating on Liam.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
No. Hope didn´t marry Tom because she was in love with him. She married him because she was grieving too. I don´t understand why it should only be Liam who was grieving. Hope was grieving too and she thought that she was meant to be little Douglas mother and Liam should be with Steffy to be with his child, Kelly.
She did this becaus she was half crazy with grief, not cheating on Liam.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Exactly.
She hardly cheated on Liam at that time.
Taylor was pushing hard for Douglas to have a new mom. She also pushed hard for a Steam reunion.
Literally everyone had an agenda around Lope at that time.
Personally I don't consider either of them "cheating" when they were grieving Beth and everyone was trying to manipulate the grief for their own agendas.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Hope: I forgave your mistakes with Steffy, so please forgive me. Where does this logic come from? The writers aren't consistent with this couple. If Hope is allowed to throw Liam and Steffy's past and use this as an argument to guilt trip him get his forgiveness, then he should be allowed to do the same in return.
Liam should fight back : I walked in on you making out with Oliver behind my back, and I forgave you. You dumped me for Oliver for things I didn't do, and I forgave you. I saw you kissing my brother in our home and I forgave you. I caught you kissing my brother the day of our wedding and I forgave you. You married my brother and slept with him when we were engaged, and I forgave you. You believed Othello's lies and wrongly accused me of something I didn't do and I forgave you. You let Thomas kiss you while I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. You annulled our marriage and married Thomas when I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. Liam may have amnesia when it comes to Hope, but I don't. She has cheated on him with 3 different men and cheated on these 3 men with him. It is totally unfair and biased writing that she gets to bring up Steffy over and over again when she gets caught cheating, but he isn't allowed to bring up her long list of mistakes. Makes me loathe Hope even more, if that's possible.
Hope could kiss an entire football team and it still wouldn’t be sleeping with your husband’s father. And if we want to go there with the past, there is a hell of a lot Hope could bring up as well. Simply stating I’ve forgiven you for cheating, and it has been her forgiving Liam these past few years, isn’t throwing their entire past in their faces. You literally have to go back to 2013, ten years, which is the last time Hope has actually cheated on Liam. Thomas kissing Hope while she pushes him off is not the example you think it is ..
IMHO Hope wanting Thomas is just as bad as Steffy having a ONS with Bill ***in Liam’s eyes***. Especially when he saw Hope’s feelings all over her face with his own eyes, and especially because she was “moral, honest, trustworthy” Hope. He knew Steffy ran out on him that night because of the Sally kiss and frankly no one including Liam ever considered Steffy to be the paragon of virtue they consider Hope to be. What did Liam do to prompt this from Hope now? Maybe she’s still resentful over his past actions with Steffy but I doubt he’s making that connection in his brain. All he sees is she suddenly has real feelings for someone who is his arch enemy and he feels he no longer knows who she is. That’s more because he never recognized her other failures imo, but still….that’s where he’s at.
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Hope: I forgave your mistakes with Steffy, so please forgive me. Where does this logic come from? The writers aren't consistent with this couple. If Hope is allowed to throw Liam and Steffy's past and use this as an argument to guilt trip him get his forgiveness, then he should be allowed to do the same in return.
Liam should fight back : I walked in on you making out with Oliver behind my back, and I forgave you. You dumped me for Oliver for things I didn't do, and I forgave you. I saw you kissing my brother in our home and I forgave you. I caught you kissing my brother the day of our wedding and I forgave you. You married my brother and slept with him when we were engaged, and I forgave you. You believed Othello's lies and wrongly accused me of something I didn't do and I forgave you. You let Thomas kiss you while I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. You annulled our marriage and married Thomas when I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. Liam may have amnesia when it comes to Hope, but I don't. She has cheated on him with 3 different men and cheated on these 3 men with him. It is totally unfair and biased writing that she gets to bring up Steffy over and over again when she gets caught cheating, but he isn't allowed to bring up her long list of mistakes. Makes me loathe Hope even more, if that's possible.
Hope could kiss an entire football team and it still wouldn’t be sleeping with your husband’s father. And if we want to go there with the past, there is a hell of a lot Hope could bring up as well. Simply stating I’ve forgiven you for cheating, and it has been her forgiving Liam these past few years, isn’t throwing their entire past in their faces. You literally have to go back to 2013, ten years, which is the last time Hope has actually cheated on Liam. Thomas kissing Hope while she pushes him off is not the example you think it is ..
IMHO Hope wanting Thomas is just as bad as Steffy having a ONS with Bill ***in Liam’s eyes***. Especially when he saw Hope’s feelings all over her face with his own eyes, and especially because she was “moral, honest, trustworthy” Hope. He knew Steffy ran out on him that night because of the Sally kiss and frankly no one including Liam ever considered Steffy to be the paragon of virtue they consider Hope to be. What did Liam do to prompt this from Hope now? Maybe she’s still resentful over his past actions with Steffy but I doubt he’s making that connection in his brain. All he sees is she suddenly has real feelings for someone who is his arch enemy and he feels he no longer knows who she is. That’s more because he never recognized her other failures imo, but still….that’s where he’s at.
Liam’s eyes need to remember a lot more..
Once again, they don't let Liam bring up Hope's past
Sammy , 6/30/2023, 2:01PM (307 days ago) @Scarlet
Hope: I forgave your mistakes with Steffy, so please forgive me. Where does this logic come from? The writers aren't consistent with this couple. If Hope is allowed to throw Liam and Steffy's past and use this as an argument to guilt trip him get his forgiveness, then he should be allowed to do the same in return.
Liam should fight back : I walked in on you making out with Oliver behind my back, and I forgave you. You dumped me for Oliver for things I didn't do, and I forgave you. I saw you kissing my brother in our home and I forgave you. I caught you kissing my brother the day of our wedding and I forgave you. You married my brother and slept with him when we were engaged, and I forgave you. You believed Othello's lies and wrongly accused me of something I didn't do and I forgave you. You let Thomas kiss you while I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. You annulled our marriage and married Thomas when I was grieving Beth and I forgave you. Liam may have amnesia when it comes to Hope, but I don't. She has cheated on him with 3 different men and cheated on these 3 men with him. It is totally unfair and biased writing that she gets to bring up Steffy over and over again when she gets caught cheating, but he isn't allowed to bring up her long list of mistakes. Makes me loathe Hope even more, if that's possible.
Hope could kiss an entire football team and it still wouldn’t be sleeping with your husband’s father. And if we want to go there with the past, there is a hell of a lot Hope could bring up as well. Simply stating I’ve forgiven you for cheating, and it has been her forgiving Liam these past few years, isn’t throwing their entire past in their faces. You literally have to go back to 2013, ten years, which is the last time Hope has actually cheated on Liam. Thomas kissing Hope while she pushes him off is not the example you think it is ..
Excellent post