If Hope is pregnant where does this go? (General)

matisse, 6/28/2023, 10:11AM (309 days ago)- one person liked this

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 10:16AM (309 days ago) @matisse

She could have done both. Because Liam went on and on about how passionate Hope has been. So maybe she's pregnant. And then she slept with thomas. I hope not, but the plot is set up for that.

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Kammie @, 6/28/2023, 10:25AM (309 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

I dont think they will be going with a Hope being pregnant.. Hope has never indicated she has wanted another child and we do know that they were not trying to have one.. Hope would have been taking the pill or some other type of BC that she would have control over. Of course BC does fail at times.

With all of AN's issues at the moment, I do not think Bell is the type to do something she is not ready for... The only reason why he went forward with Phoebe's death so shortly after HT's tragedy is because he talked to HT about it and she wanted to do it.

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ReturnedBBFan, 6/28/2023, 11:25AM (308 days ago) @Kammie

I dont think they will be going with a Hope being pregnant.. Hope has never indicated she has wanted another child and we do know that they were not trying to have one.. Hope would have been taking the pill or some other type of BC that she would have control over. Of course BC does fail at times.

With all of AN's issues at the moment, I do not think Bell is the type to do something she is not ready for... The only reason why he went forward with Phoebe's death so shortly after HT's tragedy is because he talked to HT about it and she wanted to do it.

Agree

Although BC on soaps seem to be elusive lol with the popularity of the WTD storylines in general.

I always wonder how these ONS results in these pregnancies when the person in question is consistently having sex with someone else. SMH.

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Sammy @, 6/28/2023, 11:31AM (308 days ago) @Kammie

I dont think they will be going with a Hope being pregnant.. Hope has never indicated she has wanted another child and we do know that they were not trying to have one.. Hope would have been taking the pill or some other type of BC that she would have control over. Of course BC does fail at times.

With all of AN's issues at the moment, I do not think Bell is the type to do something she is not ready for... The only reason why he went forward with Phoebe's death so shortly after HT's tragedy is because he talked to HT about it and she wanted to do it.

I don’t think they will go with a Hope pregnant

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Viola, 6/28/2023, 10:33AM (308 days ago) @matisse

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

I don't think that Thope had sex, but if Hope would be pregnant with Thomas's baby then there would be an annullment like it usually happens on B&B. Liam annulled his marriage to Steffy when she was pregnant with his baby...

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ReturnedBBFan, 6/28/2023, 10:47AM (308 days ago) @matisse

I don’t think they had sex honestly. If she’s pregnant it would be Liam’s.

While Hope may have indulged her attraction to Thomas, I don’t see her going that far.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 6/28/2023, 11:08AM (308 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.
Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?

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GLFan, 6/28/2023, 11:10AM (308 days ago) @Lizzy54

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.
Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?

They’ve seemingly left so much out that I think we could get at least something revealed via flashback, but I don’t think Bell will do that to AN either. Thope may have had sex but she won’t be pregnant.

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 1:27PM (308 days ago) @Lizzy54

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.
Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?

Brooke and Eric in creating Bridget.

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Liz @, 6/28/2023, 1:42PM (308 days ago) @Tiqui1999

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.
Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Brooke and Eric in creating Bridget.

Word on the street was the Brooke/Eric thing was a rewrite. :lol

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 2:23PM (308 days ago) @Liz

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.
Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Brooke and Eric in creating Bridget.


Word on the street was the Brooke/Eric thing was a rewrite. :lol

Yeah, and I believe it. It still is a time we saw a pregnancy story where the sex wasn't shown, though. And I think Caroline and Thomas, too.

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viennagirl @, 6/28/2023, 1:59PM (308 days ago) @Lizzy54

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 2:25PM (308 days ago) @viennagirl

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.

True! I forgot about Katie and Amber, and I hadn't really thought about RJ's.

Douglas, too, right?

I dare say Kelly's, too, since we don't really know if Steffy got pregnant 36 hours after sex with Bill when she had it again with Liam or if she was already pregnant when she slept with Bill.

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viennagirl @, 6/28/2023, 2:37PM (308 days ago) @Tiqui1999

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.


True! I forgot about Katie and Amber, and I hadn't really thought about RJ's.

Douglas, too, right?

I dare say Kelly's, too, since we don't really know if Steffy got pregnant 36 hours after sex with Bill when she had it again with Liam or if she was already pregnant when she slept with Bill.

I think with Caroline-Thomas, it was clear because Thomas had ended up making out with a drugged/almost out Caroline on the bed.

With Kelly, we knew that Leffy had been trying for a baby and did Still only kiss or didn't we see Steffy waking up in bed with Bill and knew right away that they had had sex?

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lynnsmom, 6/28/2023, 2:38PM (308 days ago) @viennagirl- one person liked this

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.


True! I forgot about Katie and Amber, and I hadn't really thought about RJ's.

Douglas, too, right?

I dare say Kelly's, too, since we don't really know if Steffy got pregnant 36 hours after sex with Bill when she had it again with Liam or if she was already pregnant when she slept with Bill.


I think with Caroline-Thomas, it was clear because Thomas had ended up making out with a drugged/almost out Caroline on the bed.

With Kelly, we knew that Leffy had been trying for a baby and did Still only kiss or didn't we see Steffy waking up in bed with Bill and knew right away that they had had sex?

With Still we saw Steffy very happily on top of Bill doing the horizontal mambo. There was no question there.

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 2:40PM (308 days ago) @viennagirl

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.


True! I forgot about Katie and Amber, and I hadn't really thought about RJ's.

Douglas, too, right?

I dare say Kelly's, too, since we don't really know if Steffy got pregnant 36 hours after sex with Bill when she had it again with Liam or if she was already pregnant when she slept with Bill.


I think with Caroline-Thomas, it was clear because Thomas had ended up making out with a drugged/almost out Caroline on the bed.

With Kelly, we knew that Leffy had been trying for a baby and did Still only kiss or didn't we see Steffy waking up in bed with Bill and knew right away that they had had sex?

Yes, but talking in terms of actually seeing a sex scene as it was happening. Bill is not Kelly's father, so that sex doesn't even count. That's what I mean. Thoughts?

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viennagirl @, 6/28/2023, 4:21PM (308 days ago) @Tiqui1999

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.


True! I forgot about Katie and Amber, and I hadn't really thought about RJ's.

Douglas, too, right?

I dare say Kelly's, too, since we don't really know if Steffy got pregnant 36 hours after sex with Bill when she had it again with Liam or if she was already pregnant when she slept with Bill.


I think with Caroline-Thomas, it was clear because Thomas had ended up making out with a drugged/almost out Caroline on the bed.

With Kelly, we knew that Leffy had been trying for a baby and did Still only kiss or didn't we see Steffy waking up in bed with Bill and knew right away that they had had sex?


Yes, but talking in terms of actually seeing a sex scene as it was happening. Bill is not Kelly's father, so that sex doesn't even count. That's what I mean. Thoughts?

I thought it was about "twists", when we only learned afterwards about the sex and the possible paternity.

But if it is also about sex that we knew that it happened offscreen and that led to pregnancy:

Wyatt/Hope ? - the show didn't show a sex scene (no bed scene) when they got married (honeymoon on the Stella Maris), but when they had returned and Liam finally told Hope about Paris and Quinn's role, Hope was already pregnant.

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 4:28PM (308 days ago) @viennagirl

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.


True! I forgot about Katie and Amber, and I hadn't really thought about RJ's.

Douglas, too, right?

I dare say Kelly's, too, since we don't really know if Steffy got pregnant 36 hours after sex with Bill when she had it again with Liam or if she was already pregnant when she slept with Bill.


I think with Caroline-Thomas, it was clear because Thomas had ended up making out with a drugged/almost out Caroline on the bed.

With Kelly, we knew that Leffy had been trying for a baby and did Still only kiss or didn't we see Steffy waking up in bed with Bill and knew right away that they had had sex?


Yes, but talking in terms of actually seeing a sex scene as it was happening. Bill is not Kelly's father, so that sex doesn't even count. That's what I mean. Thoughts?


I thought it was about "twists", when we only learned afterwards about the sex and the possible paternity.

But if it is also about sex that we knew that it happened offscreen and that led to pregnancy:

Wyatt/Hope ? - the show didn't show a sex scene (no bed scene) when they got married (honeymoon on the Stella Maris), but when they had returned and Liam finally told Hope about Paris and Quinn's role, Hope was already pregnant.

I took a "pregnancy story" differently as a "WTD" story. But yeah, I guess either.

With Wyatt and Hope, wasn't she pregnant after Amsterdam? But I can't remember how quickly that was after the wedding on the SM.

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B&Bfan1980, 6/28/2023, 5:25PM (308 days ago) @viennagirl

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.

> Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?


Bridget - we knew that BRIDGE had sex, but we didn't know that Eric once had sex with a drunk Brooke

R.J. - we knew that BRIDGE had sex (honeymoon) but we didn't know that Nick and Brooke had sex (the episode had ended with Nick comforting/hugging a crying Brooke)


Katie - we didn't know that Katie and Nick had sex during their boat trip, only learned that when Katie realized that she was pregnant

Amber - we first learned about her pregnancy and thought it had to be Oliver's, but later we learned that Amber had sex with Marcus too.

Amber and Marcus was such a good one. We found out in the delivery room:lol

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B&Bfan1980, 6/28/2023, 5:20PM (308 days ago) @Lizzy54

I don´t think Bell would give AN a pregnancy story after she had miscarriages.
And if he still did they probably would have shown Thope having sex.
Did we ever have a pregnancy story where we were not shown the sex before?

I don’t think Hope will be pregnant & I don’t think they had sex but there could be flashbacks of sex if it did happen.

Sheila & James. They woke up in bed together though.
They had been drinking he claimed not to remember anything. She went with that so he would continue to be her Dr. But then she was pregnant.

Did we see Eric & Brooke have sex with Bridget or was it all flashbacks?

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 12:33PM (308 days ago) @ReturnedBBFan

I don’t think they had sex honestly. If she’s pregnant it would be Liam’s.

While Hope may have indulged her attraction to Thomas, I don’t see her going that far.

Maybe not, but Liam might demand a test anyway, which would be interesting. I wouldn't blame him for not trusting her word that she didn't.

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GLFan, 6/28/2023, 1:12PM (308 days ago) @Tiqui1999

I don’t think they had sex honestly. If she’s pregnant it would be Liam’s.

While Hope may have indulged her attraction to Thomas, I don’t see her going that far.


Maybe not, but Liam might demand a test anyway, which would be interesting. I wouldn't blame him for not trusting her word that she didn't.

Me neither. For all he knows they’ve been having sex for months, during all those late nights at work. Knowing I didn’t, if I didn’t, that would make me livid if I were Hope, but I could definitely understand it from his POV.

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 1:24PM (308 days ago) @GLFan

I don’t think they had sex honestly. If she’s pregnant it would be Liam’s.

While Hope may have indulged her attraction to Thomas, I don’t see her going that far.


Maybe not, but Liam might demand a test anyway, which would be interesting. I wouldn't blame him for not trusting her word that she didn't.


Me neither. For all he knows they’ve been having sex for months, during all those late nights at work. Knowing I didn’t, if I didn’t, that would make me livid if I were Hope, but I could definitely understand it from his POV.

Agreed on all counts. :cool

But that's why Hope should have been honest with her husband instead of defensive and why she should have nipped all this time she spent with Thomas in the butt.

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Soapisfun, 6/28/2023, 11:05AM (308 days ago) @matisse

He annuled steam marriage and they were about to have a baby. Everything is possible depending on wherever the writers are headed

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 12:40PM (308 days ago) @Soapisfun

He annuled steam marriage and they were about to have a baby. Everything is possible depending on wherever the writers are headed

I thought Kelly was born already? She wasn't? minor detail because they'd been separated all that time anyways, but....

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lynnsmom, 6/28/2023, 1:22PM (308 days ago) @Tiqui1999- 2 people liked this

He annuled steam marriage and they were about to have a baby. Everything is possible depending on wherever the writers are headed


I thought Kelly was born already? She wasn't? minor detail because they'd been separated all that time anyways, but....

The annulment happened before Kelly was born. She is that word that some like to use regarding Hope.

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viennagirl @, 6/28/2023, 1:51PM (308 days ago) @Tiqui1999

He annuled steam marriage and they were about to have a baby. Everything is possible depending on wherever the writers are headed


I thought Kelly was born already? She wasn't? minor detail because they'd been separated all that time anyways, but....

Liam almost married Hope before Kelly was born, so yes, the marriage already had been annulled/dissolved at that time.

When Kelly was born, we had Hope sending Liam back to Steffy and his daughter. Liam then proposed to Steffy.

It wouldn't have been possible for Liam to marry Hope while still being married to Steffy (bigamist? harem?)

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/28/2023, 2:22PM (308 days ago) @viennagirl

He annuled steam marriage and they were about to have a baby. Everything is possible depending on wherever the writers are headed


I thought Kelly was born already? She wasn't? minor detail because they'd been separated all that time anyways, but....


Liam almost married Hope before Kelly was born, so yes, the marriage already had been annulled/dissolved at that time.

When Kelly was born, we had Hope sending Liam back to Steffy and his daughter. Liam then proposed to Steffy.

It wouldn't have been possible for Liam to marry Hope while still being married to Steffy (bigamist? harem?)

Thanks! I appreciate you letting me know.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 6/28/2023, 11:10AM (308 days ago) @matisse

Hope will not be pregnant. I still think they didn´t even have sex in Rome...they usually show the sex, at least some allusions.

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Barbybo, 6/28/2023, 11:58AM (308 days ago) @matisse

,> If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.


Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

If that’s California law did Liam annul steffy while she was pregnent?

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Liz @, 6/28/2023, 12:11PM (308 days ago) @matisse

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

I think much of the story changed with all the Hope backlash and the backlash of putting Thomas and Hope together and Bell is playing it very cautiously, very purposefully and very close to the chest. This would make all the wonkiness of the Rome scenes make more sense. In other words, they not only filmed more scenes in Rome but they will film more scenes in LA in order to protect the direction of the story. At this point, I don't think Bell has decided which direction he's going to go in. One direction of course would be a pregnancy. JMO

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viennagirl @, 6/28/2023, 1:47PM (308 days ago) @matisse

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

??

I don't see the issue here.
We already had Liam annulling his marriage to Steffy, when she was very pregnant with his child, soon later gave birth.

Legally Liam or Hope could either get a divorce or annulment. The only issue is if one of them keeps fighting it.
But why would Liam, the man who already had one divorce and 3 annulments, now fight for a marriage when his wife supposedly betrayed him?
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Thomas since 2019 knows about Beth and that Lope will always share a daughter - and he still kept wanting and dreaming of a life with Hope.

If Hope is pregnant where does this go?

Barbybo, 6/28/2023, 2:17PM (308 days ago) @matisse

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

They can not fit one more kid in that cabin

If Hope is pregnant where does this go?

bellabean, 6/28/2023, 2:35PM (308 days ago) @matisse

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant.

I'm pretty sure you can divorce anyone in any of the 50 states at anytime. Pregnant or not. I also don't think they slept together. They just showed a kiss and them walking around.

If Hope is pregnant where does this go?

hopeyougogirl, 6/28/2023, 2:44PM (308 days ago) @matisse

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

It was NEVER shown she actually had sex with Thomas. All the speculations in the world don't make it true.:neutral

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If Hope is pregnant where does this go?

Barbybo, 6/28/2023, 3:25PM (308 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.


It was NEVER shown she actually had sex with Thomas. All the speculations in the world don't make it true.:neutral

I think thope sizzels if bell skips the romance he’s missing a good storyline the couple has chemistry and Liam’s just a nag

If Hope is pregnant where does this go?

B&Bfan1980, 6/28/2023, 5:13PM (308 days ago) @matisse

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.

I don’t think Bell is going to make Annika play a pregnancy considering her recent losses.

But not being able to finalize a divorce doesn’t mean much. You can file and move on with your life you just can’t get married again until it's final.
And those things regarding paternity are not true. Yes Liam would be the legal father. He would go on the birth certificate but once the divorce is final it is not difficult to go to court and have that changed. Unless Liam could prove they planned to have the child together (for example Thomas was just the sperm donor and they would have to have paperwork stating that) he would have no standing.

It could certainly get messy if Liam wanted to drag it through the courts but in the end the bio parent would win.

If Hope is pregnant where does this go?

Barbybo, 6/28/2023, 6:42PM (308 days ago) @B&Bfan1980

If Hope had sex with Tom in Rome, and then she is pregnant and needs a test, how would this go down? You cannot legally divorce in California, if you are pregnant. So Lope would have to stay married until the baby is born. Then how would Tom feel about being a step-dad to 2 Lope kids, knowing that Hope is always going to love Liam? How would Liam feel having Tom as the step-dad to 2 of his kids? And what would make it more interesting is, Liam would be the child's legal father no matter if it was Tom's or not. If Tom's child, Liam would have to sign away his rights. Even with a paternity test, Liam would have to agree to let Tom adopt the child. What if that went down, and Liam said "nope, you are not going to be the babies legal father". LOL. That would mean that Liam would have more rights than Tom to his child, and Tom could not even pull some of the stunts he pulled using Douglas, to control Hope. Liam would have 50% custody of Tom's child and if something happened to Hope, he could cut Tom off completely from the child, if he chose to. California is one of the few states where biology does not trump marriage.

Now I think if Hope is going to be pregnant, Liam will have already gotten one of his quickie divorces before she finds out, but then I wonder, if they would even be legally divorced.


I don’t think Bell is going to make Annika play a pregnancy considering her recent losses.

But not being able to finalize a divorce doesn’t mean much. You can file and move on with your life you just can’t get married again until it's final.
And those things regarding paternity are not true. Yes Liam would be the legal father. He would go on the birth certificate but once the divorce is final it is not difficult to go to court and have that changed. Unless Liam could prove they planned to have the child together (for example Thomas was just the sperm donor and they would have to have paperwork stating that) he would have no standing.

It could certainly get messy if Liam wanted to drag it through the courts but in the end the bio parent would win.

Liam has two kids by baby mamas no more Liam babies

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