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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch??? (General)

JX @, 6/24/2023, 6:25PM (330 days ago)

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Dreamgirl, 6/24/2023, 6:27PM (330 days ago) @JX- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!

The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

matisse, 6/24/2023, 6:40PM (330 days ago) @Dreamgirl- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.

Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

LadyMac @, 6/24/2023, 6:46PM (330 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.


Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.

The thing is, I don't think Hope has been consciously lying or gaslighting. I don't think she fully realized the depth of what she was feeling. It wasn't an intentional planned act in retaliation, let Liam and Steffy after the mannequin incident or Steffy and Bill or even Liam currently planting one of Steffy. She certainly didn't do the right thing with Thomas, but I don't think she planned it. She just acted on what she was feeling when she realized she was feeling it. Actions do have consequences and while she's not blameless, she's certainly not

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Liz @, 6/24/2023, 6:57PM (330 days ago) @JX- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!

Liam never ran to Steffy. Steffy spotted him and walked over to where he was.

As for your question, 0. If it's any higher then Hope is even worse than I already think she is.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

matisse, 6/24/2023, 7:00PM (330 days ago) @LadyMac- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.


Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.


The thing is, I don't think Hope has been consciously lying or gaslighting. I don't think she fully realized the depth of what she was feeling. It wasn't an intentional planned act in retaliation, let Liam and Steffy after the mannequin incident or Steffy and Bill or even Liam currently planting one of Steffy. She certainly didn't do the right thing with Thomas, but I don't think she planned it. She just acted on what she was feeling when she realized she was feeling it. Actions do have consequences and while she's not blameless, she's certainly not

I get what you are saying, and I don't think she meant to gaslight Liam, but gaslight him she did, and she now needs to ask his forgiveness for it and for lying to him for months? Even if the marriage cannot be saved, she needs to ask him to forgive her for ruining their marriage and for deceiving him and making him doubt himself and his gut feelings, which were spot-on correct. I think that is important for Hope to move forward. I think she will need Liam's forgiveness before she can move on, and she needs it for doing more than cheating....also for continuously lying to him, whether she saw it as lying or not....she made Liam feel less than and she made him doubt his own judgement. Liam will probably be kind to her and tell her they have both not done right by each other, and that they tried their best, but it did not work. If it were me, and I was mad, I would tell her "I cannot forgive you because you betrayed the very fiber of our relationship and not by kissing Tom, but by putting Tom above our marriage and then when I asked you, because I thought I was losing my mind, you lied to my face and basically said, it was all in my head" But that is just me. I am not one to lick my wounds and crawl away. LOL

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

LadyMac @, 6/24/2023, 7:08PM (330 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.


Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.


The thing is, I don't think Hope has been consciously lying or gaslighting. I don't think she fully realized the depth of what she was feeling. It wasn't an intentional planned act in retaliation, let Liam and Steffy after the mannequin incident or Steffy and Bill or even Liam currently planting one of Steffy. She certainly didn't do the right thing with Thomas, but I don't think she planned it. She just acted on what she was feeling when she realized she was feeling it. Actions do have consequences and while she's not blameless, she's certainly not


I get what you are saying, and I don't think she meant to gaslight Liam, but gaslight him she did, and she now needs to ask his forgiveness for it and for lying to him for months? Even if the marriage cannot be saved, she needs to ask him to forgive her for ruining their marriage and for deceiving him and making him doubt himself and his gut feelings, which were spot-on correct. I think that is important for Hope to move forward. I think she will need Liam's forgiveness before she can move on, and she needs it for doing more than cheating....also for continuously lying to him, whether she saw it as lying or not....she made Liam feel less than and she made him doubt his own judgement. Liam will probably be kind to her and tell her they have both not done right by each other, and that they tried their best, but it did not work. If it were me, and I was mad, I would tell her "I cannot forgive you because you betrayed the very fiber of our relationship and not by kissing Tom, but by putting Tom above our marriage and then when I asked you, because I thought I was losing my mind, you lied to my face and basically said, it was all in my head" But that is just me. I am not one to lick my wounds and crawl away. LOL

Lying is an intentional act. You used it four times. You also used the words betrayed and deceiving - also intentional acts. Agree to disagree.... I have nothing more to add except that I hope you enjoy Steam.

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

GracieGirl, 6/24/2023, 7:12PM (330 days ago) @JX

Why would she be upset? She doesn’t want Liam anymore as evidenced by her lack of concern that people would see her kiss another man in public. Why should she care about that peck on the lip with Steffy?

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Sammy @, 6/24/2023, 7:15PM (330 days ago) @JX

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!

I agree. I hope Hope tosses Liam out

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

q, 6/24/2023, 7:19PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


I agree. I hope Hope tosses Liam out

JMO but I think he is going to dump her lying butt.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Liz @, 6/24/2023, 7:21PM (330 days ago) @q

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


I agree. I hope Hope tosses Liam out


JMO but I think he is going to dump her lying butt.

Fingers crossed.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Sammy @, 6/24/2023, 7:21PM (330 days ago) @q

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


I agree. I hope Hope tosses Liam out


JMO but I think he is going to dump her lying butt.

Doesn’t change one thing that the lying, cheating Liam as done and did again Friday

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Dreamgirl, 6/24/2023, 7:27PM (330 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.


Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.

My response was to the OP regarding Hopes reaction to Liam and Steffys kiss. OP also said their question had nothing to do with Thope. But anyway, to respond to your post, why is that when someone says something critical of one person that means they are automatically supportive of the other? In my opinion both Liam and Hope are in the wrong here. I can't support either of them in this particular story arc. But my post was strictly in response to what OP asked. Any woman who has had to live with a man who constantly turns to his ex in the blink of an eye would have drawn the line by now. And this is all I was saying.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Sammy @, 6/24/2023, 7:35PM (330 days ago) @LadyMac

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.


Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.


The thing is, I don't think Hope has been consciously lying or gaslighting. I don't think she fully realized the depth of what she was feeling. It wasn't an intentional planned act in retaliation, let Liam and Steffy after the mannequin incident or Steffy and Bill or even Liam currently planting one of Steffy. She certainly didn't do the right thing with Thomas, but I don't think she planned it. She just acted on what she was feeling when she realized she was feeling it. Actions do have consequences and while she's not blameless, she's certainly not


I get what you are saying, and I don't think she meant to gaslight Liam, but gaslight him she did, and she now needs to ask his forgiveness for it and for lying to him for months? Even if the marriage cannot be saved, she needs to ask him to forgive her for ruining their marriage and for deceiving him and making him doubt himself and his gut feelings, which were spot-on correct. I think that is important for Hope to move forward. I think she will need Liam's forgiveness before she can move on, and she needs it for doing more than cheating....also for continuously lying to him, whether she saw it as lying or not....she made Liam feel less than and she made him doubt his own judgement. Liam will probably be kind to her and tell her they have both not done right by each other, and that they tried their best, but it did not work. If it were me, and I was mad, I would tell her "I cannot forgive you because you betrayed the very fiber of our relationship and not by kissing Tom, but by putting Tom above our marriage and then when I asked you, because I thought I was losing my mind, you lied to my face and basically said, it was all in my head" But that is just me. I am not one to lick my wounds and crawl away. LOL


Lying is an intentional act. You used it four times. You also used the words betrayed and deceiving - also intentional acts. Agree to disagree.... I have nothing more to add except that I hope you enjoy Steam.

:cool

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Sammy @, 6/24/2023, 7:36PM (330 days ago) @Dreamgirl- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.


Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.


My response was to the OP regarding Hopes reaction to Liam and Steffys kiss. OP also said their question had nothing to do with Thope. But anyway, to respond to your post, why is that when someone says something critical of one person that means they are automatically supportive of the other? In my opinion both Liam and Hope are in the wrong here. I can't support either of them in this particular story arc. But my post was strictly in response to what OP asked. Any woman who has had to live with a man who constantly turns to his ex in the blink of an eye would have drawn the line by now. And this is all I was saying.

Good post. Some want to argue the same thing over and over like you are suppose to change your mind

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Barbybo, 6/24/2023, 7:39PM (330 days ago) @JX

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

JX @, 6/24/2023, 7:39PM (330 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Thanks for answering the question:rules
This post had nothing to do with anything except the STEAM kiss shown the other day and Hope’s reaction.

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

JX @, 6/24/2023, 7:42PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

It hurts my head sometimes:lol
You getting back on THOPE bus ? It will be fun when it runs over STEAM :lol

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

GLFan, 6/24/2023, 8:11PM (330 days ago) @JX- one person liked this

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!

I’m also going with a 10, especially if she finds out about it after she begs for forgiveness for kissing Thomas. In fact I think it may lead to her having sex with Thomas.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Sammy @, 6/24/2023, 8:23PM (330 days ago) @JX- one person liked this

It hurts my head sometimes:lol
You getting back on THOPE bus ? It will be fun when it runs over STEAM :lol

It will be great. Can’t wait.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

dxdobson, 6/24/2023, 10:52PM (330 days ago) @GLFan

I say a 10. She will be super upset when she finds out - and she will. Liam will probably tell her.
And why shouldn’t she be upset?
She never said she does not live Liam. She cheated on him.
He cheated on her.
All this saying “but she had been lying”.. - so what!
It makes no difference. It doesn’t make it better or worse.
And us not seeing Liam’s thoughts - him kidding Steffy - he cheated!

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Tiqui1999 @, 6/24/2023, 10:54PM (330 days ago) @JX

Hope should be understanding now that she knows what it's like to make impulsive mistakes like this.

Or she shouldn't care because she has Thomas.

How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Joy, 6/24/2023, 10:55PM (330 days ago) @JX

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!

If Hope finds out, it will be a perfect ten. If Hope finds out after Liam blesses her out for kissing Thomas, it will shoot straight to a 15. I just wonder what is going to happen if Finn finds out. I wonder if Finn's reaction will be a 10. I wonder if Finn will insist that Steffy set boundaries where Liam is concerned. No more Liam coming by the house to see Kelly unless Finn is there also.

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Tiqui1999 @, 6/24/2023, 10:59PM (330 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.

Or go back to being a non cheating wife

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Tiqui1999 @, 6/24/2023, 11:03PM (330 days ago) @matisse

Let’s use a scale of 0 - 10.
10 being totally peeved off :lol

This has nothing to do with THOPE.

Question is about Hope’s reaction to STEAM’s latest lip lock .

I’m going with a PERFECT TEN!!!

Hope is going to lose it:dance3

I feel it will be the final nail in the coffin of LOPE’s marriage.
Once again her husband reacts without coming to her first.
It’s always STEFFY he runs to, NEVER HOPE!


The days of being peeved off are gone. Being peeved off indicates you still care. This should just be the final straw. Enough of Liam running to Steffy whenever he has an issue with Hope. It's time Hope accepts that this is how it will always be and takes herself out of this threesome.


Now is she going to take herself out of the Steffy/Liam/Hope threesome or the Tom/Hope/Liam threesome that Liam did not even know he was in?...I am guessing he thought he was in a marriage with just himself and Hope....maybe Hope shouldn't have lied and just told him, she had a 3 way going all of her own. And talk about running to your other squeeze when you have an issue with your spouse....Hope has been constantly running back to work to tell Tom how big bad Liam just seems to not understand how much Tommy the Psycho has changed. How could Liam be so non-understanding? It isn't like Tom hid their kid from them and wanted her to stay dead....uh...oh yeah...he did. And it isn't like he tried to throw Liam off the roof of FC....oh wait, he did. And it isn't like Tom physically and emotionally abused his own son to get Hope....oh wait....yeah, he did. And then it isn't like Tom killed someone to make sure that Beth stayed dead to her parents....uh, oh that is right....he did. Well, Tom certainly never called CPS on himself to ruin his dad's marriage to Hope's mother, at least he never did THAT....oh, that is right, he did.

Hope cannot even use the cheating card to throw in Liam's face anymore, she has one upped him, she has been lying for months, cheating in her heart, out and out cheating in front of him, and she has been gaslighting Liam into thinking he is being an ass for doubting her. Then there are all the lies she told to her boss and her mother. I just do not think Hope has any high ground anymore....but that is what happens when you make out with a snake like Tom, you end up slithering along the ground on your belly, moving as fast as you can ahead of your lies.


The thing is, I don't think Hope has been consciously lying or gaslighting. I don't think she fully realized the depth of what she was feeling. It wasn't an intentional planned act in retaliation, let Liam and Steffy after the mannequin incident or Steffy and Bill or even Liam currently planting one of Steffy. She certainly didn't do the right thing with Thomas, but I don't think she planned it. She just acted on what she was feeling when she realized she was feeling it. Actions do have consequences and while she's not blameless, she's certainly not


I get what you are saying, and I don't think she meant to gaslight Liam, but gaslight him she did, and she now needs to ask his forgiveness for it and for lying to him for months? Even if the marriage cannot be saved, she needs to ask him to forgive her for ruining their marriage and for deceiving him and making him doubt himself and his gut feelings, which were spot-on correct. I think that is important for Hope to move forward. I think she will need Liam's forgiveness before she can move on, and she needs it for doing more than cheating....also for continuously lying to him, whether she saw it as lying or not....she made Liam feel less than and she made him doubt his own judgement. Liam will probably be kind to her and tell her they have both not done right by each other, and that they tried their best, but it did not work. If it were me, and I was mad, I would tell her "I cannot forgive you because you betrayed the very fiber of our relationship and not by kissing Tom, but by putting Tom above our marriage and then when I asked you, because I thought I was losing my mind, you lied to my face and basically said, it was all in my head" But that is just me. I am not one to lick my wounds and crawl away. LOL

Yes. This. :cool

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Lizzy54 @, Austria, 6/25/2023, 3:57AM (330 days ago) @JX

Hope will never know they kissed. Who should tell her?
Maybe if some paparazzi took a picture, then it might come up...but without this, Liam and Steffy will never tell, not to Hope and not to Finn or anyone else.

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How peeved off will Hope be about STEAM smooch???

Lilgan ⌂ @, 6/25/2023, 4:50AM (330 days ago) @JX

It will depends on the timing.
If she finds out after weeks of Liam berating her and making her beg for forgiveness then It’s a straight 10.
She will take it as her cue to go be with Thomas.

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