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GracieGirl, 6/18/2023, 1:38PM (325 days ago)

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 1:41PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl- 2 people liked this

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.

Yet, that fool doesn't know much at all about bully Steffy's true nasty colors. Funny, he believes she's all about telling the truth..yet, he still is so clueless that Steffy called a married Liam her "sweet husband".:drunk I guess this makes Steffy a liar too! Just like Hope, Liam and Thomas.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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GracieGirl, 6/18/2023, 1:55PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Well here’s the other side of the coin - what if Steffy’s right about Hope derailing Thomas’ recovery. Hope may have opened Pandora’s boxes. She will probably say it’s not fair, but what it boils down to, Hope knew this is what was going on for her and she lied. She’s toast. I no longer feel bad about it. I feel worse about Steffy being right.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 1:59PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl

Well here’s the other side of the coin - what if Steffy’s right about Hope derailing Thomas’ recovery. Hope may have opened Pandora’s boxes. She will probably say it’s not fair, but what it boils down to, Hope knew this is what was going on for her and she lied. She’s toast. I no longer feel bad about it. I feel worse about Steffy being right.

As far as I'm concerned, Steffy isn't right in this story because she's the one purposely blindsided Hope with that ultimatutum then told Taylor "Hope has to say yes" to rehiring Thomas. Steffy is a very calculated snake! She purposely put Hope in this position because she knows Hope would be in a no win situation. If Hope said no, she would have her line paused/gone. If she said yes, then it would cause problem for Lope's marriage given Steffy is very WELL AWARE that Liam hates her brother. IMO. It's disgusting that Liam still trusts this snake..given Liam had said on screen that Steffy "is wrong" for giving Hope the "unreasonable" ultimatum..Liam's own words but of course, that's all been forgotten because snake Steffy is a saint.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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GracieGirl, 6/18/2023, 2:07PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Yes it will be forgotten. The 2022 war on the Logans has been forgotten. If Steffy is a snake, then the characters she’s telling on should not allow her to be right. Liam told Hope what Steffy said and Hope didn’t do anything about it. She kept having fantasies about Thomas. I used to be a big Hope fan but unless she has a mental disorder, I can’t excuse her behavior. She’s human but she should have gone to a marriage counselor or something.

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Sammy @, 6/18/2023, 11:18PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl

Well here’s the other side of the coin - what if Steffy’s right about Hope derailing Thomas’ recovery. Hope may have opened Pandora’s boxes. She will probably say it’s not fair, but what it boils down to, Hope knew this is what was going on for her and she lied. She’s toast. I no longer feel bad about it. I feel worse about Steffy being right.

Yes could be

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fasbmaster, 6/18/2023, 1:44PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl

I said it WAY back from the start that Steffy will be right. And here we are, SHE IS! Liam will say the same thing, you were right Steffy.

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q, 6/18/2023, 2:46PM (325 days ago) @fasbmaster- one person liked this

I said it WAY back from the start that Steffy will be right. And here we are, SHE IS! Liam will say the same thing, you were right Steffy.

She was wrong about her brother. She believed him when he said he was over Hope and wouldn't be with her even if she made a move on him. He was told that Hope had feelings for him. Instead of backing off spending time alone with Hope instead of jeopardizing her marriage.

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Barbybo, 6/18/2023, 1:45PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.

I think everyone should let Hope lead her own life gawd shows full of whines and spy’s and yappers is Hope a moron let her live her own life..liven up Finn make them more enjoyable then him shirtless please.and keep whiney cry baby Liam away from steffy let him see a psychatrist talk it out there

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GLFan, 6/18/2023, 1:50PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl

If Steffy is supposed to be analogous to Brooke, then there’s no reason we can’t see her too mature and change, even if not in a straight line, over the years. The sweet husband thing was a nothing burger just designed to show she was still out of it when she woke up from her coma imo. It was amusing to see how insecure and flustered Brooke got over that when she was out of Ridge’s earshot though. Like I said characters don’t evolve in a straight line.:whistle

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GracieGirl, 6/18/2023, 1:58PM (325 days ago) @GLFan

On this show, characters don’t evolve at all. They have the same issues with the same family members by marriage.

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ReturnedBBFan, 6/18/2023, 3:38PM (325 days ago) @GLFan

If Steffy is supposed to be analogous to Brooke, then there’s no reason we can’t see her too mature and change, even if not in a straight line, over the years. The sweet husband thing was a nothing burger just designed to show she was still out of it when she woke up from her coma imo. It was amusing to see how insecure and flustered Brooke got over that when she was out of Ridge’s earshot though. Like I said characters don’t evolve in a straight line.:whistle

Agree, Steffy has done more than her share of dirt and schemes. Doesn't mean she can't have mature moments that aren't self-serving, just like when she told Ridge she just wants him to be happy even if that is with Brooke. Every character ebbs and flows.

Characters can mature and change over time

Steffy today still clearly doesn't like Hope and still takes cheap shots at her, other than that she comes off as someone who cares about her family. She's no longer in her 20's fighting with Hope over a man, she got off that merry-go-round, she is a married woman in her 30's with two kids.

To be complete though I have to say that on some level, she will enjoy watching Hope and Liam suffer...

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Viola, 6/18/2023, 2:36PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.

OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 2:55PM (325 days ago) @Viola- one person liked this

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.

IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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GLFan, 6/18/2023, 3:14PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.


IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!

Actually she tried to prevent this. Hope should have listened to Steffy and her mother.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 4:00PM (325 days ago) @GLFan- one person liked this

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.


IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!


Actually she tried to prevent this. Hope should have listened to Steffy and her mother.

No, she didn't prevent anything. Steffy's the one that blindsided Hope with an "unreasonable" ultimatum then told Taylor "Hope has to say yes" to rehiring Thomas.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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GLFan, 6/18/2023, 4:16PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.


IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!


Actually she tried to prevent this. Hope should have listened to Steffy and her mother.


No, she didn't prevent anything. Steffy's the one that blindsided Hope with an "unreasonable" ultimatum then told Taylor "Hope has to say yes" to rehiring Thomas.

But she really didn’t have to. She could have prioritized Liam’s wishes and called Steffy’s bluff, or she could have worked with Thomas and kept it only professional, avoiding putting herself into situations where she was risking not being able to control herself. No reason to go sightseeing with Thomas if she couldn’t control herself…unless she decided she didn’t want to control herself. It’s okay with me if Thomas is who she really wants, but she shouldn’t be carelessly playing with Liam and Thomas’s feelings if she doesn’t know what she wants. She’s risking derailing Thomas and breaking Liam’s heart at the same time.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 4:23PM (325 days ago) @GLFan- one person liked this

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.


IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!


Actually she tried to prevent this. Hope should have listened to Steffy and her mother.


No, she didn't prevent anything. Steffy's the one that blindsided Hope with an "unreasonable" ultimatum then told Taylor "Hope has to say yes" to rehiring Thomas.


But she really didn’t have to. She could have prioritized Liam’s wishes and called Steffy’s bluff, or she could have worked with Thomas and kept it only professional, avoiding putting herself into situations where she was risking not being able to control herself. No reason to go sightseeing with Thomas if she couldn’t control herself…unless she decided she didn’t want to control herself. It’s okay with me if Thomas is who she really wants, but she shouldn’t be carelessly playing with Liam and Thomas’s feelings if she doesn’t know what she wants. She’s risking derailing Thomas and breaking Liam’s heart at the same time.

If Steffy is so concerned about her brother's well being, she wouldn't have welcome him back to work so soon. Does she seriously believe that he would just get over his MANY YEARS of obsession overnight? And Thomas "derail" himself plenty by initiating several physical contacts with a married Hope when he claimed he's all changed and no longer obsessed with Hope..he lied too, NOT just Hope. NONE of these people are innocent in this story to me.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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GLFan, 6/18/2023, 4:32PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.


IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!


Actually she tried to prevent this. Hope should have listened to Steffy and her mother.


No, she didn't prevent anything. Steffy's the one that blindsided Hope with an "unreasonable" ultimatum then told Taylor "Hope has to say yes" to rehiring Thomas.


But she really didn’t have to. She could have prioritized Liam’s wishes and called Steffy’s bluff, or she could have worked with Thomas and kept it only professional, avoiding putting herself into situations where she was risking not being able to control herself. No reason to go sightseeing with Thomas if she couldn’t control herself…unless she decided she didn’t want to control herself. It’s okay with me if Thomas is who she really wants, but she shouldn’t be carelessly playing with Liam and Thomas’s feelings if she doesn’t know what she wants. She’s risking derailing Thomas and breaking Liam’s heart at the same time.


If Steffy is so concerned about her brother's well being, she wouldn't have welcome him back to work so soon. Does she seriously believe that he would just get over his MANY YEARS of obsession overnight? And Thomas "derail" himself plenty by initiating several physical contacts with a married Hope when he claimed he's all changed and no longer obsessed with Hope..he lied too, NOT just Hope. NONE of these people are innocent in this story to me.

I don’t see that Thomas derailed himself or lied in this storyline at all, but I respect your opinion. We all see things differently.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 4:41PM (325 days ago) @GLFan

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.


IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!


Actually she tried to prevent this. Hope should have listened to Steffy and her mother.


No, she didn't prevent anything. Steffy's the one that blindsided Hope with an "unreasonable" ultimatum then told Taylor "Hope has to say yes" to rehiring Thomas.


But she really didn’t have to. She could have prioritized Liam’s wishes and called Steffy’s bluff, or she could have worked with Thomas and kept it only professional, avoiding putting herself into situations where she was risking not being able to control herself. No reason to go sightseeing with Thomas if she couldn’t control herself…unless she decided she didn’t want to control herself. It’s okay with me if Thomas is who she really wants, but she shouldn’t be carelessly playing with Liam and Thomas’s feelings if she doesn’t know what she wants. She’s risking derailing Thomas and breaking Liam’s heart at the same time.


If Steffy is so concerned about her brother's well being, she wouldn't have welcome him back to work so soon. Does she seriously believe that he would just get over his MANY YEARS of obsession overnight? And Thomas "derail" himself plenty by initiating several physical contacts with a married Hope when he claimed he's all changed and no longer obsessed with Hope..he lied too, NOT just Hope. NONE of these people are innocent in this story to me.


I don’t see that Thomas derailed himself or lied in this storyline at all, but I respect your opinion. We all see things differently.

He told his family that even if Hope throws herself at him that he won't do anything..well, he did do something by kissing her back! So IMO, he most definitely lied. That's fine..you have your opinion and I have mine.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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BBDOOLfan, 6/18/2023, 6:17PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

We don't know if how he responds. It was only a short clip and he could still push her away and Liam sees that part but also her pulling Thomas in for a kiss.

Thomas could give her the 411 and Hope loses out on Liam and Thoma. Liam is upset because they are married and she lied and Thomas's illusion on Hope not being like her mom is popped.

Who knows.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 6:24PM (325 days ago) @BBDOOLfan- one person liked this

We don't know if how he responds. It was only a short clip and he could still push her away and Liam sees that part but also her pulling Thomas in for a kiss.

Thomas could give her the 411 and Hope loses out on Liam and Thoma. Liam is upset because they are married and she lied and Thomas's illusion on Hope not being like her mom is popped.

Who knows.

It looks pretty clear to this viewer that he responded..he kissed her back, so I disagree.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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BBDOOLfan, 6/18/2023, 6:37PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

We will see.

Looking forward to Liam likely leaving Hope over this.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/18/2023, 7:16PM (325 days ago) @BBDOOLfan- one person liked this

We will see.

Looking forward to Liam likely leaving Hope over this.

It'll only be temporary. Eventually he will forgive her just like he did forgive his EX.
No matter what happens, Lope will always find ways back to each other.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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BBDOOLfan, 6/19/2023, 9:40AM (324 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Hopefully there will be a lot of angst before it happens.

I personally find them boring right now and seeing them grow as a couple might be the thing that makes me like them again.

Because I have not really enjoyed them since Wyatt came into the picture... with only Beth reunion being something I was happy about.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/19/2023, 1:47PM (324 days ago) @BBDOOLfan

Hopefully there will be a lot of angst before it happens.

I personally find them boring right now and seeing them grow as a couple might be the thing that makes me like them again.

Because I have not really enjoyed them since Wyatt came into the picture... with only Beth reunion being something I was happy about.

And I personally find Thope very creepy and their over the top praises of each other is boring to me.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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BBDOOLfan, 6/19/2023, 10:13PM (324 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Totally get it. I fast forward Liam scenes and have for the most part for the last year.

Whine about Thomas
Tells Hope that the kids are with Donna.

Shower Rinse Repeat.

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Sammy @, 6/18/2023, 10:25PM (325 days ago) @BBDOOLfan

We will see.

Looking forward to Liam likely leaving Hope over this.

Liam is too much of a wimp. He will run ove to Steffy, probably have sex and go back to Hope

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JX @, 6/18/2023, 10:46PM (325 days ago) @Sammy

That’s the Liam we all love to hate :lol

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lynnsmom, 6/19/2023, 10:11AM (324 days ago) @JX

That’s the Liam we all love to hate :lol

It is also the desperate Steffy who would gladly be his soft place to land...:rofl

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Viola, 6/18/2023, 4:00PM (325 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.


IKR? When it comes to her own cheating scandals, she kept her mouth shut. But she sure is quick to tell the truth on someone else..this 2 faced snake sure is quick to expose others who's done less than her. Too funny!

And also asked others to keep their mouths shut as well. :lol

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JX @, 6/18/2023, 6:10PM (325 days ago) @Viola

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Sammy @, 6/18/2023, 11:19PM (325 days ago) @Viola

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.


OMG :drunk Steffy tells the truth no matter what... As long it's someone else's business and nothing about her own nasty secrets.

Isn’t that the truth

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kikilucy, 6/18/2023, 4:07PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.

Agree totally. Once again, Steffy is painted in a sainthood light. Always right, never do wrong Steffy. It seems to always be like this, and apparently will continue.

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GracieGirl, 6/18/2023, 4:17PM (325 days ago) @kikilucy

The show did the same thing after the CPS scandal.

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Kammie @, 6/18/2023, 8:18PM (325 days ago) @kikilucy- one person liked this

To bad Steffy set this whole thing in motion with her ultimatum that Hope had to take Thomas back. It does not matter 2 weeks earlier that Hope was willing to let him back but work off site designing for her line. Steffy was even giggly gossiping with her mommy when she pondered if this would negatively affect the Lope marriage... Then with her constant attacking Hope with unfounded accusations. This started before Hope was shown having flashes. I give that snake NO CREDIT except that it fits in her agenda.

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Barbybo, 6/19/2023, 12:01PM (324 days ago) @Kammie

To bad Steffy set this whole thing in motion with her ultimatum that Hope had to take Thomas back. It does not matter 2 weeks earlier that Hope was willing to let him back but work off site designing for her line. Steffy was even giggly gossiping with her mommy when she pondered if this would negatively affect the Lope marriage... Then with her constant attacking Hope with unfounded accusations. This started before Hope was shown having flashes. I give that snake NO CREDIT except that it fits in her agenda.

She could easily quit but for some strange reason she’s a forrester wanna be ….no stock just move on..she’s not family half the time mommy and ridge are splitsville anyway

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MegsMom, 6/18/2023, 11:02PM (325 days ago) @GracieGirl

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.

Steffy tells the truth when it suits her.:oops

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/19/2023, 9:50AM (324 days ago) @GracieGirl

Steffy was the truth teller. She warned everyone including Hope. No one wanted to believe. I guess that’s the new rep the show is promoting for Steffy - Finn last week said Steffy tells the truth no matter what :whistle. Let’s see where the writers go with it.

I don't mind it. As far as I'm concerned, every character has their moments where they get dragged. Every character has their moments where they are upheld.

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