Hope…the new waffler ??? (General)

fan87, 6/15/2023, 9:31AM (324 days ago)

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.

Hope…the new waffler ???

BBDOOLfan, 6/15/2023, 9:38AM (324 days ago) @fan87

Someone elsewhere equated her to potentially the new Ridge.

Brooke= Liam
Taylor = Thomas

Could happen

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fan87, 6/15/2023, 10:44AM (323 days ago) @BBDOOLfan

Someone elsewhere equated her to potentially the new Ridge.

Brooke= Liam
Taylor = Thomas

Could happen

I sure think so!

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theduchess, 6/15/2023, 10:16AM (324 days ago) @fan87- one person liked this

maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope?

new?? this isn't the first time hope has been fickle, just ask wyatt

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fan87, 6/15/2023, 10:45AM (323 days ago) @theduchess

maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope?


new?? this isn't the first time hope has been fickle, just ask wyatt

Well she was a girl then, now she’s a woman.

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/15/2023, 10:50AM (323 days ago) @fan87

maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope?


new?? this isn't the first time hope has been fickle, just ask wyatt


Well she was a girl then, now she’s a woman.

I think in that storyline, it was about Hope becoming a woman. Wyatt made her a woman. Before that it was all that fluffy hope for the future mess and that all over Madison is she going to be a good girl versus steffy being a bad girl mess. We've been here before. And she became a grown ass woman dealing with Quinn most definitely.

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Judx, 6/15/2023, 11:00AM (323 days ago) @theduchess
edited by Judx, 6/15/2023, 11:14AM

maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope?


new?? this isn't the first time hope has been fickle, just ask wyatt

Right!
I don’t know why Hope is never seen as a waffler….apparently only Liam is.
Her history of this, and other things, shows otherwise (as posters have listed in other threads awhile ago).

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Tiqui1999 @, 6/15/2023, 10:33AM (323 days ago) @fan87

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.

If so, it's return of the waffler. Because that's all she was doing when Wyatt was there.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 6/15/2023, 10:43AM (323 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?

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theduchess, 6/15/2023, 10:52AM (323 days ago) @Lizzy54

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?

thomas can never be wyatt, wyatt isn't a child abuser

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LadyMac @, 6/15/2023, 1:08PM (323 days ago) @theduchess- one person liked this

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?


thomas can never be wyatt, wyatt isn't a child abuser

But Wyatt is supposedly still engaged to the baby thief who was an accessory to the abduction and sale of his niece.

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naintednancy, 6/15/2023, 1:29PM (323 days ago) @LadyMac

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?


thomas can never be wyatt, wyatt isn't a child abuser


But Wyatt is supposedly still engaged to the baby thief who was an accessory to the abduction and sale of his niece.

And I don't see any parallels between Thope and Hott, to be honest.

Hope was single when she fell for Wyatt. Liam was still married to Steffy. This time she is married and falling for Thomas.

Hott always needed a village of people manipulating them, just like Leffy. That's the only way Wyatt could "win" Hope. I don't see anybody manpulating Thope this time around. Hope's feelings grew organically, without anyone manipulating her.

Hope never raised a child with Wyatt.

Hope used Wyatt to punish Liam for Steffy, she even admitted it. I don't think she is using Thomas now. She wants to be true to Liam but she can't control her feelings.

The biggest difference is still the pining/daydreaming part. She was pining for Liam when she was with Wyatt. This time she is pining for Thomas when she is with Liam. I don't recall her pining for Wyatt or having hot fantasies about Wyatt when she was engaged to Liam. :neutral

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Sammy @, 6/15/2023, 3:44PM (323 days ago) @LadyMac

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?


thomas can never be wyatt, wyatt isn't a child abuser


But Wyatt is supposedly still engaged to the baby thief who was an accessory to the abduction and sale of his niece.

Funny how that slips minds.

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lynnsmom, 6/15/2023, 3:48PM (323 days ago) @Sammy

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?


thomas can never be wyatt, wyatt isn't a child abuser


But Wyatt is supposedly still engaged to the baby thief who was an accessory to the abduction and sale of his niece.


Funny how that slips minds.

Much like it slipped minds when there was anger about Hope dumping Wyatt for Liam, yet no anger about Steffy dumping Wyatt for Liam!

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Sammy @, 6/15/2023, 4:33PM (323 days ago) @lynnsmom

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?


thomas can never be wyatt, wyatt isn't a child abuser


But Wyatt is supposedly still engaged to the baby thief who was an accessory to the abduction and sale of his niece.


Funny how that slips minds.


Much like it slipped minds when there was anger about Hope dumping Wyatt for Liam, yet no anger about Steffy dumping Wyatt for Liam!

Minds are funny like that:rofl

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BabyKelly, 6/15/2023, 5:38PM (323 days ago) @lynnsmom

Maybe Tom will be the new Wyatt?


thomas can never be wyatt, wyatt isn't a child abuser


But Wyatt is supposedly still engaged to the baby thief who was an accessory to the abduction and sale of his niece.


Funny how that slips minds.


Much like it slipped minds when there was anger about Hope dumping Wyatt for Liam, yet no anger about Steffy dumping Wyatt for Liam!

When did Steffy dump Wyatt for Liam? Quinn was sending breakup messages and voicemails with Liam's phone.

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GracieGirl, 6/15/2023, 11:15AM (323 days ago) @fan87

Historically, I have been a big Hope fan from the time Brooke learned she was pregnant. I had great compassion for a child conceived in such a big soapy scandal even though I know it’s make believe. However, Hope has always been confused and fickle. Hope wants to be both decent and she wants to be desired. That’s my interpretation. Yes, she has issues because of her parents. She was once referred to as a stain on the family name. However, it’s not all about Deacon and Brooke. Steffy, whether you love her or hate her or you’re in between like me, Steffy bullied Hope. Just look at the old scripts. Steffy taunted and teased Hope about sex. On the one hand, Steffy kept throwing up Brooke’s sins in her face and on the other hand, Steffy teased Hope about being a virgin. Steffy pursued all of Hope’s boyfriends just to show her who was the boss. Sure that was a long time ago, but if this were really world, Steffy’s actions were terrible bad girl bullying. Also, while Thomas hated Rick for understandable reasons, he and Hope were always close. That’s why some of us have icky feelings about that brotherly—sisterly like relationship with a shared brother and stalking mixed in. So, yes Hope is a waffler, and unfortunately, she will take a beating because a woman falling for her stalker is not relatable and as Bell reportedly said, not root worthy.

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fan87, 6/15/2023, 12:12PM (323 days ago) @GracieGirl

Historically, I have been a big Hope fan from the time Brooke learned she was pregnant. I had great compassion for a child conceived in such a big soapy scandal even though I know it’s make believe. However, Hope has always been confused and fickle. Hope wants to be both decent and she wants to be desired. That’s my interpretation. Yes, she has issues because of her parents. She was once referred to as a stain on the family name. However, it’s not all about Deacon and Brooke. Steffy, whether you love her or hate her or you’re in between like me, Steffy bullied Hope. Just look at the old scripts. Steffy taunted and teased Hope about sex. On the one hand, Steffy kept throwing up Brooke’s sins in her face and on the other hand, Steffy teased Hope about being a virgin. Steffy pursued all of Hope’s boyfriends just to show her who was the boss. Sure that was a long time ago, but if this were really world, Steffy’s actions were terrible bad girl bullying. Also, while Thomas hated Rick for understandable reasons, he and Hope were always close. That’s why some of us have icky feelings about that brotherly—sisterly like relationship with a shared brother and stalking mixed in. So, yes Hope is a waffler, and unfortunately, she will take a beating because a woman falling for her stalker is not relatable and as Bell reportedly said, not root worthy.

Oh don’t misunderstand me, I hate the thought of Hope wanting Thomas, I’m just afraid it’s where we are.

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longtimerfan, 6/15/2023, 11:55AM (323 days ago) @fan87

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.

Not new. She waffled between Liam and Wyatt for as long as she could. Almost 2 years of back and forth. The waffling only ended when KM left the show and Bell was forced to end this triangle and send the brothers in a new direction.
She also waffled for a long time between Liam and Oliver. The waffling started when she met Liam and was struggling with Oliver and Brooke's wall sex. It ended when the truth about Amber's father came out. Oliver finally had enough and removed himself but there was 1 long year of waffling until she finally chose between them.
The triangle with Thomas started in March 2019. According to Bell, Hope had repressed feelings for Thomas for years. If her heart didn't waffle, her mind sure did. How many times has she PROMISED Liam that she would never give Thomas the benefit of the doubt again, only to befriend, forget and forgive him. In 2020 Liam accused her of always having feelings for Thomas, I don't think he was wrong.

When she has 2 men battling for her, Hope always waffles. Nothing new here, in my opinion.

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fan87, 6/15/2023, 12:11PM (323 days ago) @longtimerfan

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Not new. She waffled between Liam and Wyatt for as long as she could. Almost 2 years of back and forth. The waffling only ended when KM left the show and Bell was forced to end this triangle and send the brothers in a new direction.
She also waffled for a long time between Liam and Oliver. The waffling started when she met Liam and was struggling with Oliver and Brooke's wall sex. It ended when the truth about Amber's father came out. Oliver finally had enough and removed himself but there was 1 long year of waffling until she finally chose between them.
The triangle with Thomas started in March 2019. According to Bell, Hope had repressed feelings for Thomas for years. If her heart didn't waffle, her mind sure did. How many times has she PROMISED Liam that she would never give Thomas the benefit of the doubt again, only to befriend, forget and forgive him. In 2020 Liam accused her of always having feelings for Thomas, I don't think he was wrong.

When she has 2 men battling for her, Hope always waffles. Nothing new here, in my opinion.

I’ve watched the show since the first episode so I’m well aware of Hope’s past and her struggles when she was very young. I’m referring to her now as a grown woman.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/15/2023, 1:15PM (323 days ago) @fan87- one person liked this

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.

Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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fan87, 6/15/2023, 1:46PM (323 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.

Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/15/2023, 2:08PM (323 days ago) @fan87

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.

I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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dxdobson, 6/15/2023, 2:19PM (323 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.

I agree! This Hope having the hots for Thomas came out of nowhere. I think something messed up story scheduling last year because they teased them getting along, we heard Lope would have issues last summer and it never happened.
Hope has always been level headed. This is for people who wanted a chance for Thope but it is a terrible pairing. I would rather it come close some fallout with Lope then a new woman comes to town who doesn’t like Hope or the Logan’s and binds with Thomas!
I am Hope/Brooke fan but it would create rivalry without the same old thing!

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GracieGirl, 6/15/2023, 2:38PM (323 days ago) @dxdobson

The show didn’t bring along the fans for sure. ThT makes me wonder knowing that they are not root worthy to many people why the show sprung that story on us. Up until now, Thomas has been portrayed as crazy. It was just back in December that Hope chewed him out. So this feels very knee jerk and sudden. Maybe something is going on behind the scenes we don’t know about.

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hopeyougogirl, 6/15/2023, 3:08PM (323 days ago) @dxdobson

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.


I agree! This Hope having the hots for Thomas came out of nowhere. I think something messed up story scheduling last year because they teased them getting along, we heard Lope would have issues last summer and it never happened.
Hope has always been level headed. This is for people who wanted a chance for Thope but it is a terrible pairing. I would rather it come close some fallout with Lope then a new woman comes to town who doesn’t like Hope or the Logan’s and binds with Thomas!
I am Hope/Brooke fan but it would create rivalry without the same old thing!

And that creep won't stop touching her..and she kept going to her wild side in her head but then came back to reality not looking happy at all. If she genuinely is in love with him, she would be all happy with big smiles everytime she go to wild mind, but that's so not the case. I think she's gonna feel trapped in her own craziness because she knows he's being inappropriate but she can't piss him off either because she still needs him to save her line.:puke

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

Hope…the new waffler ???

fan87, 6/15/2023, 3:16PM (323 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.

He’s still Thomas can’t change that quickly, just better at covering it.

Hope…the new waffler ???

hopeyougogirl, 6/15/2023, 3:25PM (323 days ago) @fan87- one person liked this

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.


He’s still Thomas can’t change that quickly, just better at covering it.

He's sneaky and smooth..and he just up his game. I think Liam will be proven right again..and he will tell Hope that manipulative Thomas has successfully fooled her.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

Hope…the new waffler ???

fan87, 6/15/2023, 3:36PM (323 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.


He’s still Thomas can’t change that quickly, just better at covering it.


He's sneaky and smooth..and he just up his game. I think Liam will be proven right again..and he will tell Hope that manipulative Thomas has successfully fooled her.

I’m hoping that’s what happens, but I think there’ll be lots of drama and misunderstanding before.

Hope…the new waffler ???

hopeyougogirl, 6/15/2023, 3:48PM (323 days ago) @fan87

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.


He’s still Thomas can’t change that quickly, just better at covering it.


He's sneaky and smooth..and he just up his game. I think Liam will be proven right again..and he will tell Hope that manipulative Thomas has successfully fooled her.


I’m hoping that’s what happens, but I think there’ll be lots of drama and misunderstanding before.

She's been taking Liam for granted while going to the wild side in her mind. Liam is already so on the edge, so it won't take much at all for him to blow up..all it'll take is seeing Hope so comfortable with that monster and touching his arms while giggling with him. Liam wil tell her he's done. Then it'll be Thomas who? Hope will realize she needs to get her head/priorities straight.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

Hope…the new waffler ???

fan87, 6/15/2023, 3:54PM (323 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.


He’s still Thomas can’t change that quickly, just better at covering it.


He's sneaky and smooth..and he just up his game. I think Liam will be proven right again..and he will tell Hope that manipulative Thomas has successfully fooled her.


I’m hoping that’s what happens, but I think there’ll be lots of drama and misunderstanding before.


She's been taking Liam for granted while going to the wild side in her mind. Liam is already so on the edge, so it won't take much at all for him to blow up..all it'll take is seeing Hope so comfortable with that monster and touching his arms while giggling with him. Liam wil tell her he's done. Then it'll be Thomas who? Hope will realize she needs to get her head/priorities straight.

Agree! He’s forbidden so it’s making him attractive, then she will regret even fantasizing about him. However, Liam needs to extend Hope the same grace she showed when he slept with Steffy. Liam is a huge overreactor.

Hope…the new waffler ???

hopeyougogirl, 6/15/2023, 4:04PM (323 days ago) @fan87

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.


He’s still Thomas can’t change that quickly, just better at covering it.


He's sneaky and smooth..and he just up his game. I think Liam will be proven right again..and he will tell Hope that manipulative Thomas has successfully fooled her.


I’m hoping that’s what happens, but I think there’ll be lots of drama and misunderstanding before.


She's been taking Liam for granted while going to the wild side in her mind. Liam is already so on the edge, so it won't take much at all for him to blow up..all it'll take is seeing Hope so comfortable with that monster and touching his arms while giggling with him. Liam wil tell her he's done. Then it'll be Thomas who? Hope will realize she needs to get her head/priorities straight.


Agree! He’s forbidden so it’s making him attractive, then she will regret even fantasizing about him. However, Liam needs to extend Hope the same grace she showed when he slept with Steffy. Liam is a huge overreactor.

Her creepy fantasies came out of nowhere, so I suspect it will suddenly disappear too. I see this as a reverse of the mannequin story..where this time it'll be Liam asking for a separation and Hope coming to her senses and begs him for his forgiveness.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

Hope…the new waffler ???

fan87, 6/15/2023, 4:21PM (323 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Since it appears that Ridge may finally stop waffling and Liam seems about Hope ( for the most part), and Thomas is always Hope obsessed, maybe Bell needs a new waffler and it’ll be Hope? She’ll be torn between her passion for Thomas and her years of loving Liam , her two families, and the men have to endure the constant waffling??? Just a thought because we know the writers love that storyline.


Hope's "passion" for Thomas came out of nowhere..it's totally plot driven given the fact she's known Thomas longer than she knows Liam. Yet, she has never ever fantasized about him before..until THIS STORY. Hope actually told Paris that she thinks her husband Liam is the HOTTEST guy in the world, yet now suddenly she's turned on by a bad boy who's NOT as hot as her husband. Too funny. IMO, her fantasies came out nowhere and it will disappear overnight too once this story is over..doubt her fantasies will last her entire lifetime.


Agree the story is forced and I’m certainly not a fan of Thope, just think it may be headed there.


I’m not convinced that Bell is actually “going there”. But I really don’t think creepy Thomas has changed given that he just offered to give a married Hope a back massage KNOWING Brooke/Ridge/Carter/Steffy are right in front of them! WTH? Talk about a very BOLD move..of course, Hope shot him down she knows it’s inappropriate. I honestly won’t be surprised if creepy Thomas initiates a kiss in Rome..given he now has his family in his ears told him that Hope has “feelings” for him.


He’s still Thomas can’t change that quickly, just better at covering it.


He's sneaky and smooth..and he just up his game. I think Liam will be proven right again..and he will tell Hope that manipulative Thomas has successfully fooled her.


I’m hoping that’s what happens, but I think there’ll be lots of drama and misunderstanding before.


She's been taking Liam for granted while going to the wild side in her mind. Liam is already so on the edge, so it won't take much at all for him to blow up..all it'll take is seeing Hope so comfortable with that monster and touching his arms while giggling with him. Liam wil tell her he's done. Then it'll be Thomas who? Hope will realize she needs to get her head/priorities straight.


Agree! He’s forbidden so it’s making him attractive, then she will regret even fantasizing about him. However, Liam needs to extend Hope the same grace she showed when he slept with Steffy. Liam is a huge overreactor.


Her creepy fantasies came out of nowhere, so I suspect it will suddenly disappear too. I see this as a reverse of the mannequin story..where this time it'll be Liam asking for a separation and Hope coming to her senses and begs him for his forgiveness.

She’ll beg him no doubt once she snaps out of this.

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