Doesn’t Liam realize (General)
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
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Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Sammy 
, 6/11/2023, 6:05PM (324 days ago) @Drangonfly
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
That would be the smart thing to do. Maybe he doesn't get there until later and it's only Steffy that sees something.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Sammy , 6/11/2023, 6:08PM (324 days ago) @Drangonfly
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
That would be the smart thing to do. Maybe he doesn't get there until later and it's only Steffy that sees something.
I doubt Steffy sees much of anything. Just them laughing together, joking around whatever. Steffy will still make a big deal about it
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
That would be the smart thing to do. Maybe he doesn't get there until later and it's only Steffy that sees something.
I doubt Steffy sees much of anything. Just them laughing together, joking around whatever. Steffy will still make a big deal about it
Steffy loves projecting!
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Sammy , 6/11/2023, 6:12PM (324 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
That would be the smart thing to do. Maybe he doesn't get there until later and it's only Steffy that sees something.
I doubt Steffy sees much of anything. Just them laughing together, joking around whatever. Steffy will still make a big deal about it
Steffy loves projecting!
Oh yeah
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
That would be the smart thing to do. Maybe he doesn't get there until later and it's only Steffy that sees something.
I doubt Steffy sees much of anything. Just them laughing together, joking around whatever. Steffy will still make a big deal about it
I'm sure she'll make a bee line to her sweet husband. 
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Sammy , 6/11/2023, 6:15PM (324 days ago) @Drangonfly
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
That would be the smart thing to do. Maybe he doesn't get there until later and it's only Steffy that sees something.
I doubt Steffy sees much of anything. Just them laughing together, joking around whatever. Steffy will still make a big deal about it
I'm sure she'll make a bee line to her sweet husband.
Exactly
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
IA, unless he gets there and has another conk to the head and loses his memory again. LOL
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Following them around seems stupid to me. He should just let Hope know he is there
Maybe on his way to tell Hope he's there he sees something or maybe Steffy spots him first and tells him he saw Hope touch Thomas's arm.
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
Doesn’t Liam realize
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
But how many times has she been wrong about that monster? So has his crazy family all been wrong about him every time!
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
I'm leaning towards Thomas really has changed but I can't say I blame Liam for being suspicious.
--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Doesn’t Liam realize
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
I'm leaning towards Thomas really has changed but I can't say I blame Liam for being suspicious.
But why is Thomas still thinks and talks about Hope all the time? Why the constant flashbacks and looking at her pic? Why doesn't he have any desire to move on and get a healthy dating life? Why is he always at FC 24/7 working on her line? Seemed so weird to me if he really has changed.
--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
I'm leaning towards Thomas really has changed but I can't say I blame Liam for being suspicious.
But why is Thomas still thinks and talks about Hope all the time? Why the constant flashbacks and looking at her pic? Why doesn't he have any desire to move on and get a healthy dating life? Why is he always at FC 24/7 working on her line? Seemed so weird to me if he really has changed.
I think it would be a great twist if we find out that he hasn't changed and did something awful but I don't trust Bell to give us a twist like that.
--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Doesn’t Liam realize
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
I'm leaning towards Thomas really has changed but I can't say I blame Liam for being suspicious.
But why is Thomas still thinks and talks about Hope all the time? Why the constant flashbacks and looking at her pic? Why doesn't he have any desire to move on and get a healthy dating life? Why is he always at FC 24/7 working on her line? Seemed so weird to me if he really has changed.
I think it would be a great twist if we find out that he hasn't changed and did something awful but I don't trust Bell to give us a twist like that.
Maybe he’s behind that one bad review? Certainly wouldn’t be the first time he faked something! After all, he faked a letter from dead Caroline and made fake cards from Douglas to Hope. LOL.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
I'm leaning towards Thomas really has changed but I can't say I blame Liam for being suspicious.
But why is Thomas still thinks and talks about Hope all the time? Why the constant flashbacks and looking at her pic? Why doesn't he have any desire to move on and get a healthy dating life? Why is he always at FC 24/7 working on her line? Seemed so weird to me if he really has changed.
I think it would be a great twist if we find out that he hasn't changed and did something awful but I don't trust Bell to give us a twist like that.
Maybe he’s behind that one bad review? Certainly wouldn’t be the first time he faked something! After all, he faked a letter from dead Caroline and made fake cards from Douglas to Hope. LOL.
It would be in keeping with his history, that's for sure.
--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Doesn’t Liam realize
I have been saying that since review came out. I remember that Thomas rushed in with his new designs and told them that only he could save HFTF. He was very arrogant about it.
Doesn’t Liam realize
I have been saying that since review came out. I remember that Thomas rushed in with his new designs and told them that only he could save HFTF. He was very arrogant about it.
Yeah, I remember too..then everyone at FC started saying he's the only one that can save her line.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Doesn’t Liam realize
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
I'm leaning towards Thomas really has changed but I can't say I blame Liam for being suspicious.
But why is Thomas still thinks and talks about Hope all the time? Why the constant flashbacks and looking at her pic? Why doesn't he have any desire to move on and get a healthy dating life? Why is he always at FC 24/7 working on her line? Seemed so weird to me if he really has changed.
I think it would be a great twist if we find out that he hasn't changed and did something awful but I don't trust Bell to give us a twist like that.
I have been posting the same thing all week....what a shock and awe moment for BB. We would have the shock of finding out Tom had not changed at all, just upped his game and the audience was kept clueless, and the awe of the Bridge reunion capped off by Andre Bocelli singing to them. It would be great.
Doesn’t Liam realize
He must think Hope is extremely stupid...does he really believe she wouldn't see if he didn't change?
She knows Tom better than Liam does, her problem is only that she has a soft spot for Tom and probably always had and so is forgiving him more than she should. Hope would know if Tom didn't change.
I'm leaning towards Thomas really has changed but I can't say I blame Liam for being suspicious.
But why is Thomas still thinks and talks about Hope all the time? Why the constant flashbacks and looking at her pic? Why doesn't he have any desire to move on and get a healthy dating life? Why is he always at FC 24/7 working on her line? Seemed so weird to me if he really has changed.
I think it would be a great twist if we find out that he hasn't changed and did something awful but I don't trust Bell to give us a twist like that.
I have been posting the same thing all week....what a shock and awe moment for BB. We would have the shock of finding out Tom had not changed at all, just upped his game and the audience was kept clueless, and the awe of the Bridge reunion capped off by Andre Bocelli singing to them. It would be great.
I don’t find any awe in the Bridge reunion (just want it signed, sealed and delivered) and would feel duped for the third or fourth time if Bell does that again with Thomas. It wouldn’t be a shock for me at all because I am expecting some sort of bait and switch, just another SMH at this show moment. Wash, rinse, repeat. If they had better writing they wouldn’t need guest stars.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Liam is the ONLY one that has never been wrong about that monster. It kinda makes you wonder....
--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Sammy , 6/11/2023, 6:13PM (324 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Liam is the ONLY one that has never been wrong about that monster. It kinda makes you wonder....
Liam acts like a little old lady. If something happens why would it be Thomas’ fault?
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Liam is the ONLY one that has never been wrong about that monster. It kinda makes you wonder....
Liam acts like a little old lady. If something happens why would it be Thomas’ fault?
But we don't know what that something is yet. So, it could be Thomas or some other person doing something.
--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Liam is the ONLY one that has never been wrong about that monster. It kinda makes you wonder....
Liam acts like a little old lady. If something happens why would it be Thomas’ fault?
But we don't know what that something is yet. So, it could be Thomas or some other person doing something.
Am I mistaken or wasn't there a mention in SOD or by an official spoiler, that there would be a mysterious stranger watching Thope? Or is that suppose to now be Liam? I don't think Liam would be called a mysterious stranger. LOL
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Liam is the ONLY one that has never been wrong about that monster. It kinda makes you wonder....
Liam acts like a little old lady. If something happens why would it be Thomas’ fault?
But we don't know what that something is yet. So, it could be Thomas or some other person doing something.
Am I mistaken or wasn't there a mention in SOD or by an official spoiler, that there would be a mysterious stranger watching Thope? Or is that suppose to now be Liam? I don't think Liam would be called a mysterious stranger. LOL
I don't know anything about this mysterious stranger spoiler. But I remember in the May sweeps, Bell mentioned that once Thomas and Steffy figured out about Hope's "feelings" for him..that there will be "exciting twists". At this point, a Thope kiss seemed expected to happen, so I don't consider it as an "exciting twist". LOL.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Sneeky …he’s so weird ….
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Sneeky …he’s so weird ….
Yes, Thomas is so weird.
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?
That's not what he's doing. He doesn't believe that Thomas has changed so he's going to follow them to make sure Thomas isn't up to his old tricks.
Sneeky …he’s so weird ….
Yes, very weird that he and his sidekick Steffy will be sneaking around, spying on Hope and Thomas.
--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Hope could have sex with tom at home doesn’t have to be in Rome …is he that stupid? What’s he going to do follow her around daily?'
We don't know exactly why he goes to Rome yet. Maybe something happens that triggers that decision. I hope so because if not, you're right he is dumb,
Doesn’t Liam realize
Liam isn’t worried about Hope. I don’t think he’s worried about sex. He is worried that Thomas will wreak havoc in Hopes life. In the past that had less to do about sex than it did manipulation. In spite of what Steffy accused Hope of, Liam says he trusts Hope.
Liam has never trusted in Hope and repeatedly treats her like a child unable to think for herself…
I can’t wait until Lope blow up. Watching paint dry is way more exciting then those two!
Doesn’t Liam realize
Liam has never trusted in Hope and repeatedly treats her like a child unable to think for herself…
I can’t wait until Lope blow up. Watching paint dry is way more exciting then those two!
Liam has never trusted or believed in Hope. As much as he protests that he does, his actions say something else altogether. He jumped to the wrong conclusion during the Mannequin story line, and he did the same thing again when Hope stumbled off of the riser with Thomas. Totally thought the worst of her without knowing all the facts. Yes, Hope is harboring feelings, and ardent desire for Thomas, but I also see her fighting against it as well. I feel like maybe Hope could overcome it, but with Liam, Steffy and Brooke breathing down her neck, it would be next to impossible. I admit to enjoying the chemistry between Hope and Thomas, but I don't want Hope to cheat, especially when she is putting forth a real effort to fight the feelings and showing signs of regret.
The "Vision" of Hope and Thomas making love is certainly a possibility for Rome, but I don't think that Hope would go so far on her own. I feel like she would have to be pushed somehow into that act. She is too remorseful about having the dream itself, just to jump right into being with Thomas. But with the constant badgering from Steffy, Brooke and Liam, it's even more plausible to happen. If Liam is caught spying on Hope or scheming with Brooke and/or Steffy, that maybe could be the tipping point which would drive Hope into Thomas' arms for good.
I'm not trying to lay blame on Liam, Brooke, and Steffy, but they are certainly picking at the scabs for sure. We shall see!
I agree there would have to be a situation where Hope feels pushed by the combined meddling of Steffy, Liam and maybe Brooke, all three of them trying some kind of "intervention", to run into Tom´s direction.
Or maybe a situation including Liam and Steffy, either Liam running to Steffy again because he watches something he will interprete the wrong way or Hope witnessing a scene with Liam telling Steffy how much he loves her and talking about their wonderful past (like he did on Steffy´s birthday)...I don´t think Hope would go and sleep with Tom "just like that", just because she has an itch...it would take much more.
Doesn’t Liam realize
I agree there would have to be a situation where Hope feels pushed by the combined meddling of Steffy, Liam and maybe Brooke, all three of them trying some kind of "intervention", to run into Tom´s direction.
Or maybe a situation including Liam and Steffy, either Liam running to Steffy again because he watches something he will interprete the wrong way or Hope witnessing a scene with Liam telling Steffy how much he loves her and talking about their wonderful past (like he did on Steffy´s birthday)...I don´t think Hope would go and sleep with Tom "just like that", just because she has an itch...it would take much more.
Maybe the twist is Hope sees Liam and Steffy "touching" each other and she gets the wrong idea.
Doesn’t Liam realize
I agree there would have to be a situation where Hope feels pushed by the combined meddling of Steffy, Liam and maybe Brooke, all three of them trying some kind of "intervention", to run into Tom´s direction.
Or maybe a situation including Liam and Steffy, either Liam running to Steffy again because he watches something he will interprete the wrong way or Hope witnessing a scene with Liam telling Steffy how much he loves her and talking about their wonderful past (like he did on Steffy´s birthday)...I don´t think Hope would go and sleep with Tom "just like that", just because she has an itch...it would take much more.
Maybe the twist is Hope sees Liam and Steffy "touching" each other and she gets the wrong idea.
I could easily see this happening.
Doesn’t Liam realize
Sammy , 6/12/2023, 10:52AM (323 days ago) @moonlightof1982- one person liked this
Liam has never trusted in Hope and repeatedly treats her like a child unable to think for herself…
I can’t wait until Lope blow up. Watching paint dry is way more exciting then those two!
Liam has never trusted or believed in Hope. As much as he protests that he does, his actions say something else altogether. He jumped to the wrong conclusion during the Mannequin story line, and he did the same thing again when Hope stumbled off of the riser with Thomas. Totally thought the worst of her without knowing all the facts. Yes, Hope is harboring feelings, and ardent desire for Thomas, but I also see her fighting against it as well. I feel like maybe Hope could overcome it, but with Liam, Steffy and Brooke breathing down her neck, it would be next to impossible. I admit to enjoying the chemistry between Hope and Thomas, but I don't want Hope to cheat, especially when she is putting forth a real effort to fight the feelings and showing signs of regret.The "Vision" of Hope and Thomas making love is certainly a possibility for Rome, but I don't think that Hope would go so far on her own. I feel like she would have to be pushed somehow into that act. She is too remorseful about having the dream itself, just to jump right into being with Thomas. But with the constant badgering from Steffy, Brooke and Liam, it's even more plausible to happen. If Liam is caught spying on Hope or scheming with Brooke and/or Steffy, that maybe could be the tipping point which would drive Hope into Thomas' arms for good.
I'm not trying to lay blame on Liam, Brooke, and Steffy, but they are certainly picking at the scabs for sure. We shall see!
Oh I agree. When you push hard enough, which at least Liam and Steffy are, things can happen that wouldn’t if they stay out of it. I have always said Liam has little to say. Even when Hope saw Liam and Steffy in the car while Hope was waiting for him. Hope was hurt and put the engagement ring on the table. What did Liam do? Ran off to Colorado and married Steffy! Same with the mannequin thing. Ran to Steffy instead of confronting Thomas How can Liam be trusted? He even had sex with Steffy.
Liam is weak and Steffy is a bully
Doesn’t Liam realize
Sammy , 6/12/2023, 10:53AM (323 days ago) @JX
Liam has never trusted in Hope and repeatedly treats her like a child unable to think for herself…
I can’t wait until Lope blow up. Watching paint dry is way more exciting then those two!
LOL couldn’t have said it better myself
Doesn’t Liam realize
Liam has never trusted in Hope and repeatedly treats her like a child unable to think for herself…
I can’t wait until Lope blow up. Watching paint dry is way more exciting then those two!
LOL couldn’t have said it better myself
I third this.