The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope (General)

Sammy @, 6/8/2023, 6:32PM (330 days ago)- one person liked this

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Barbybo, 6/8/2023, 6:36PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

Is anyone sane ?

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Fickledseptum @, 6/8/2023, 7:05PM (330 days ago) @Sammy- 2 people liked this

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

It's a complex situation for everyone but frankly, it's hard to dismiss Liam's concerns. Thomas is a threat to his marriage since 2019. He has done some very questionable things. A few months ago, he tried to kiss his wife after the fashion show. How does Liam trust Thomas and Hope alone in another country together after this? On one hand I think Liam is wrong this time, Thomas won't do anything. I think Thomas has genuinely changed, or at least he is trying. But do I blame Liam for not trusting him? No way. I don't see him as unreasonable here. Thomas going to Rome with Hope is one thing, but spending hours together to prepare a huge fashion show, that's a problem for Liam. And given what Thomas did after the last fashion show, his concerns are conceivable.

I agree about the other characters, though. No one has a right to say anything if Hope wants to be with Thomas. I was still team Brooke until she decided to go after Ridge again this week. Thomas is a saint next to Ridge, for this viewer. If Brooke still wants Ridge after almost 4 decades of abusive behavior, then Hope wanting Thomas shouldn't be a problem for Brooke. As long as Hope doesn't sleep with him while she is still married no one except Liam has a right to judge her. Especially not Steffy Ridge and Taylor. Taylor still wants Ridge. Steffy wanted Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber in front of her. None of them can judge Hope for her feelings.

--
[img=thumbnail][/img]

Avatar

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Tiqui1999 @, 6/8/2023, 8:21PM (330 days ago) @Fickledseptum

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything


It's a complex situation for everyone but frankly, it's hard to dismiss Liam's concerns. Thomas is a threat to his marriage since 2019. He has done some very questionable things. A few months ago, he tried to kiss his wife after the fashion show. How does Liam trust Thomas and Hope alone in another country together after this? On one hand I think Liam is wrong this time, Thomas won't do anything. I think Thomas has genuinely changed, or at least he is trying. But do I blame Liam for not trusting him? No way. I don't see him as unreasonable here. Thomas going to Rome with Hope is one thing, but spending hours together to prepare a huge fashion show, that's a problem for Liam. And given what Thomas did after the last fashion show, his concerns are conceivable.

I agree about the other characters, though. No one has a right to say anything if Hope wants to be with Thomas. I was still team Brooke until she decided to go after Ridge again this week. Thomas is a saint next to Ridge, for this viewer. If Brooke still wants Ridge after almost 4 decades of abusive behavior, then Hope wanting Thomas shouldn't be a problem for Brooke. As long as Hope doesn't sleep with him while she is still married no one except Liam has a right to judge her. Especially not Steffy Ridge and Taylor. Taylor still wants Ridge. Steffy wanted Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber in front of her. None of them can judge Hope for her feelings.

Sayig people don't have the right to judge on this soap is cliche.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

SonOfMan ⌂, VT, 6/8/2023, 7:54PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

Something already started. An emotional affair shouldn't be taken lightly. And if something more happens between Thomas and Hope, it will be on Thomas and Hope. Not even Sheila can be blamed for Thomas and Hope's feelings and actions!!!

Thomas tried to kiss Hope against her will before she pushed him into the vat. And he had sex with his cousin Caroline when she was drugged. I wouldn't put anything past him!!

Avatar

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Tiqui1999 @, 6/8/2023, 8:19PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

A world where a husband doesn't have the "right" to discuss something with his wife.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Sammy @, 6/8/2023, 9:49PM (330 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Discussing? That is what Liam doing? Demanding more like it. As much as he “discusses” the more he looks demanding

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Liz @, 6/8/2023, 10:01PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Discussing? That is what Liam doing? Demanding more like it. As much as he “discusses” the more he looks demanding

Perhaps if Hope listened and followed through on her promises, Liam wouldn't "demand" as you call it. Thing is, Hope doesn't have a leg to stand on. She's crossing a dangerous line with Thomas and is doing so with her eyes wide open. Liam knows something is going on and he's right.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Sammy @, 6/8/2023, 11:04PM (330 days ago) @Liz

Discussing? That is what Liam doing? Demanding more like it. As much as he “discusses” the more he looks demanding


Perhaps if Hope listened and followed through on her promises, Liam wouldn't "demand" as you call it. Thing is, Hope doesn't have a leg to stand on. She's crossing a dangerous line with Thomas and is doing so with her eyes wide open. Liam knows something is going on and he's right.

What is she not following through on? HFTF is about to go to Paris. This is big time for Hope and FC. Lot of time and money has gone into this. Is she suppose to give it because Liam has issues. Time and time again Liam went back to Steffy when there really something between them
HFTF is a lot bigger now than just Thomas and Hope

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Kammie @, 6/8/2023, 8:26PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

Exactly... That is the point I have been trying to make... Everyone is making Hope defend herself against their lies, attacks and accusations. Hope feels defensive because at this moment she knows Thomas has not crossed a line. Hope as of this moment has not crossed any lines, but the attacks keep coming from everyone. Those attacks are causing Hope to become more sympathetic towards Thomas. When Hope blew up and Brooke and said those things about Thomas, they were her true feelings, but at the same time she feels for Thomas because the other side is attacking Thomas to her the same way they are attacking her.

I agree if Hope willingly crosses a line, it is on her... Just like the line that Steffy and Liam have crossed many other times has been on them. I have been in a similar situation as Hope being forced by my boss to work with someone who causes trouble and sexually harassed me, so maybe that is why I understand what is going on with her. I am sick of this story. I am sick of Thomas... I am sick of Steffy... I am sick of Taylor... I am sick of Liam.... And I am sick of Hope, Thope, and this incestuous leaning story.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Vik., 6/8/2023, 8:50PM (330 days ago) @Kammie
edited by Vik., 6/8/2023, 8:53PM

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything


Exactly... That is the point I have been trying to make... Everyone is making Hope defend herself against their lies, attacks and accusations. Hope feels defensive because at this moment she knows Thomas has not crossed a line. Hope as of this moment has not crossed any lines, but the attacks keep coming from everyone. Those attacks are causing Hope to become more sympathetic towards Thomas. When Hope blew up and Brooke and said those things about Thomas, they were her true feelings, but at the same time she feels for Thomas because the other side is attacking Thomas to her the same way they are attacking her.

I agree if Hope willingly crosses a line, it is on her... Just like the line that Steffy and Liam have crossed many other times has been on them. I have been in a similar situation as Hope being forced by my boss to work with someone who causes trouble and sexually harassed me, so maybe that is why I understand what is going on with her. I am sick of this story. I am sick of Thomas... I am sick of Steffy... I am sick of Taylor... I am sick of Liam.... And I am sick of Hope, Thope, and this incestuous leaning story.


I think modelling dresses for Thomas and getting massages (and getting turned on by his touch) is crossing a line. Staring at his lips and leaning towards them for a kiss before her cellphone rang is crossing a line. Staying on top of him on a couch and gazing into his eyes for more than 15 seconds is crossing a line. Vowing to not rehire Thomas and then rehiring him the same day behind her husband's back is crossing a line. Imagining Thomas to give her husband passionate sex is crossing a line. Caressing his hands and lusting after him in a work office is crossing a line. Confiding in Thomas about her problems with Brooke and Liam is crossing a line. Blaming Steffy, Liam and Brooke for her fantasies is crossing a line. Admitting she has feelings for Thomas and then looking at her husband in the eyes and lying is crossing a line. Sharing a meal with him in San Francisco is crossing a line. Crying and begging him for forgiveness (when he overheard her and Brooke) is crossing a line.

Hope hasn't been "forced" to work with Thomas. She rehired him over and over and over again since the Beth lie, this is the first time there was an ultimatum and Hope has made it clear this is what she wants. She told Thomas she is happy he is back and she was excited to work with him. These moments with him have been magical (her words). She thanked him for seeing her and told him she wants to have him around her for a very long time. She has been given other options and she didn't take them. Liam has offered her to open a new fashion house and she refused. The large majority of her interactions with Thomas are not work related. They spend most of their time praising each other and confiding in each other. Not so much talk about the designs. Their scenes yesterday (for instance) were totally useless. Hope left her lunch with Deacon to see Thomas at FC. They spent the entire time praising each other and talking about Ridge Brooke and Taylor. Definitely not HFTF related.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

hopeyougogirl, 6/8/2023, 10:06PM (330 days ago) @Vik.

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything


Exactly... That is the point I have been trying to make... Everyone is making Hope defend herself against their lies, attacks and accusations. Hope feels defensive because at this moment she knows Thomas has not crossed a line. Hope as of this moment has not crossed any lines, but the attacks keep coming from everyone. Those attacks are causing Hope to become more sympathetic towards Thomas. When Hope blew up and Brooke and said those things about Thomas, they were her true feelings, but at the same time she feels for Thomas because the other side is attacking Thomas to her the same way they are attacking her.

I agree if Hope willingly crosses a line, it is on her... Just like the line that Steffy and Liam have crossed many other times has been on them. I have been in a similar situation as Hope being forced by my boss to work with someone who causes trouble and sexually harassed me, so maybe that is why I understand what is going on with her. I am sick of this story. I am sick of Thomas... I am sick of Steffy... I am sick of Taylor... I am sick of Liam.... And I am sick of Hope, Thope, and this incestuous leaning story.

I think modelling dresses for Thomas and getting massages (and getting turned on by his touch) is crossing a line. Staring at his lips and leaning towards them for a kiss before her cellphone rang is crossing a line. Staying on top of him on a couch and gazing into his eyes for more than 15 seconds is crossing a line. Vowing to not rehire Thomas and then rehiring him the same day behind her husband's back is crossing a line. Imagining Thomas to give her husband passionate sex is crossing a line. Caressing his hands and lusting after him in a work office is crossing a line. Confiding in Thomas about her problems with Brooke and Liam is crossing a line. Blaming Steffy, Liam and Brooke for her fantasies is crossing a line. Admitting she has feelings for Thomas and then looking at her husband in the eyes and lying is crossing a line. Sharing a meal with him in San Francisco is crossing a line. Crying and begging him for forgiveness (when he overheard her and Brooke) is crossing a line.

Hope hasn't been "forced" to work with Thomas. She rehired him over and over and over again since the Beth lie, this is the first time there was an ultimatum and Hope has made it clear this is what she wants. She told Thomas she is happy he is back and she was excited to work with him. These moments with him have been magical (her words). She thanked him for seeing her and told him she wants to have him around her for a very long time. She has been given other options and she didn't take them. Liam has offered her to open a new fashion house and she refused. The large majority of her interactions with Thomas are not work related. They spend most of their time praising each other and confiding in each other. Not so much talk about the designs. Their scenes yesterday (for instance) were totally useless. Hope left her lunch with Deacon to see Thomas at FC. They spent the entire time praising each other and talking about Ridge Brooke and Taylor. Definitely not HFTF related.

Yet, when her line was doing fine, it was Thomas who? NO creepy feelings/fantasizing of him whatsoever! None. It wasn't until her line was in trouble and yes she was "forced" to work with Thomas because Steffy indeed gave her an ultimatum..Steffy even said to Taylor "Hope has to say yes" to rehiring Thomas.

All of Thope's interactions are at FC only and even the SF trip was a BUSINESS trip..the only reason they went was because some buyers wanted to meet both of them. So yeah, definitely HFTF related..even yesterday when Thomas told her this Rome trip will be "intense" and Hope told him then we'll "focus on work". LOL.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Sammy @, 6/8/2023, 9:51PM (330 days ago) @Kammie

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything


Exactly... That is the point I have been trying to make... Everyone is making Hope defend herself against their lies, attacks and accusations. Hope feels defensive because at this moment she knows Thomas has not crossed a line. Hope as of this moment has not crossed any lines, but the attacks keep coming from everyone. Those attacks are causing Hope to become more sympathetic towards Thomas. When Hope blew up and Brooke and said those things about Thomas, they were her true feelings, but at the same time she feels for Thomas because the other side is attacking Thomas to her the same way they are attacking her.

I agree if Hope willingly crosses a line, it is on her... Just like the line that Steffy and Liam have crossed many other times has been on them. I have been in a similar situation as Hope being forced by my boss to work with someone who causes trouble and sexually harassed me, so maybe that is why I understand what is going on with her. I am sick of this story. I am sick of Thomas... I am sick of Steffy... I am sick of Taylor... I am sick of Liam.... And I am sick of Hope, Thope, and this incestuous leaning story.

Thank you. Exactly correct

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

q, 6/8/2023, 8:48PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

I thought Taylor was there to tell Thomas that Hope has feelings for him. Although that is just Steffy's opinion.

You're right though, why does everyone (I can understand Liam's concern) keep brining it up. If Hope doesn't have feelings they might all convince her into thinking she does.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Sammy @, 6/8/2023, 9:52PM (330 days ago) @q

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything


I thought Taylor was there to tell Thomas that Hope has feelings for him. Although that is just Steffy's opinion.

You're right though, why does everyone (I can understand Liam's concern) keep brining it up. If Hope doesn't have feelings they might all convince her into thinking she does.

That is exactly what I have been saying.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

BBDownunder, 6/8/2023, 10:14PM (330 days ago) @q

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything


I thought Taylor was there to tell Thomas that Hope has feelings for him. Although that is just Steffy's opinion.

You're right though, why does everyone (I can understand Liam's concern) keep brining it up. If Hope doesn't have feelings they might all convince her into thinking she does.

no convincing needed for Hope :lol

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

GracieGirl, 6/8/2023, 10:24PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Is everyone wrong? Thomas is under psychiatric care. Throughout the years across the different actors, Thomas has issues with women. He’s done questionable things. The writers pen can change anything, but I have this feeling that Hope will learn the hard way not to be so naive.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Liz @, 6/8/2023, 10:28PM (330 days ago) @Sammy

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

Liam just needs to dump Hope and move on.

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Sammy @, 6/8/2023, 11:10PM (330 days ago) @Liz

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything


Liam just needs to dump Hope and move on.

That would be a plus for Hope

The Best Way to Get Something Happening with Thomas and Hope

Barbybo, 6/9/2023, 2:06AM (329 days ago) @Sammy

Everyone needs to keep badgering them. Geeez one right after the over. There is no better way to get it something started. It’s Liam, and he can’t understand why Thomas needs to go to Paris? He is the Lead designer. Why would he not go? His project too. Liam says he trust Hope but not Thomas. So in that case Liam thinks Thomas will have sex with Hope against her will.
Other than showing her shaggy hair, why was Taylor there? Does she have an office at FC?
Steffy considering things she has done, should have nothing to say
Not any of these nuts have the right to say anything

Gawd all these people do is discuss a grown Hope and Tom they are not teens what they do is their own life’s shows turned into busy body city…yap all about Tom and Hope…why are they treat like teens? All the immoral nuts yapping boreing

The World of the Bold and the Beautiful is the largest and longest running B&B fan forum in the world!