Steffy is full of it. (General)

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

I have to agree with you it was Steffy was not Steffy’s place to tell even if I understand her frustration to hear Liam accusing Thomas again and again. The one person she should be talking to is Thomas to encourage him not to see anything romantic about Hope’s friendship and appreciation. To remind him Hope is married and committed.

I have to agree with you it was Steffy was not Steffy’s place to tell even if I understand her frustration to hear Liam accusing Thomas again and again. The one person she should be talking to is Thomas to encourage him not to see anything romantic about Hope’s friendship and appreciation. To remind him Hope is married and committed.

Agree. And it was nice to hear Finn point out to her that she dropped a bomb on their marriage. She would have every right to make a move at the company if she's worried about Thomas, but that's it. She should stay out of their marriage business.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

Steffy did Hope a favor but she’s too blind to see it. Hope needs to stop lying to everyone, perhaps starting with herself. Finn should probably be reminded, if he knew in the first place, that Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam on her behalf.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I don't agree with that. Hope put staffing right in the middle when Hope told staffy to go to land and vouch for hope. So stevia every right to come back and say something when it turns out that she's getting gaslighted by hope. Stephanie is also Liam's profess best friend. That also gives her every right to warn him about what she is seeing in his wife. Ask for taking Thomas off the line, I hope she does come to that. I hope hope loses her line for this.

I have to agree with you it was Steffy was not Steffy’s place to tell even if I understand her frustration to hear Liam accusing Thomas again and again. The one person she should be talking to is Thomas to encourage him not to see anything romantic about Hope’s friendship and appreciation. To remind him Hope is married and committed.

It wasn't steffy's place to go to Liam and vouch for hope, then. That's exactly what hope asked Stephie to do. And that is not right that if stephy sees something that contradicts what Hope was trying to get her to tell liam, that steffy he can't tell it to him. No that doesn't work like that. Hope ask Stephanie to get involved and now hope is getting what she asked for.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

Hope asked Steffy to get involved. Hope asked her to convince Liam of Hope's point of view. When Liam said stuff he had defended thomas, Hope was all about that. But the minute Liam said Steffy came back talking about hope, all of a sudden hope you got a problem with Steffy. no I don't like that.

And besides, hope it's lying. Hope is denying and lying. She is in the wrong.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I don't agree with that. Hope put staffing right in the middle when Hope told staffy to go to land and vouch for hope. So stevia every right to come back and say something when it turns out that she's getting gaslighted by hope. Stephanie is also Liam's profess best friend. That also gives her every right to warn him about what she is seeing in his wife. Ask for taking Thomas off the line, I hope she does come to that. I hope hope loses her line for this.

Hope asked Steffy to convince Liam that Thomas had changed and was not a threat. She specifically asked her NOT to tell him anything about her suspicions about Hope. And IIRC, Steffy agreed to that and even said that she may have overreacted.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

Steffy did Hope a favor but she’s too blind to see it. Hope needs to stop lying to everyone, perhaps starting with herself. Finn should probably be reminded, if he knew in the first place, that Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam on her behalf.

Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam to convince him that Thomas had changed. This was before the hand holding accusation. When that happened Hope asked Steffy not to tell Liam about it. Steffy agreed.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I don't agree with that. Hope put staffing right in the middle when Hope told staffy to go to land and vouch for hope. So stevia every right to come back and say something when it turns out that she's getting gaslighted by hope. Stephanie is also Liam's profess best friend. That also gives her every right to warn him about what she is seeing in his wife. Ask for taking Thomas off the line, I hope she does come to that. I hope hope loses her line for this.

Hope asked Steffy to convince Liam that Thomas had changed and was not a threat. She specifically asked her NOT to tell anything about her suspicions about Hope. And IIRC, Steffy agreed to that and even said that she may have overreacted.

And steffy was glad to do it until she saw that hope was the one who was the problem. And still she decided to be silent until her best friend was at his wit's end. Stephie had every right to say that too liam. It was not an overreaction hope should have told Liam about it months ago. Steffy doesn't have to keep any secrets for hope. hope should have gone right to her husband and told him the damn truth.

This is not on steffy. Stephie wouldn't even be involved if hope knew how to be honest.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I don't agree with that. Hope put staffing right in the middle when Hope told staffy to go to land and vouch for hope. So stevia every right to come back and say something when it turns out that she's getting gaslighted by hope. Stephanie is also Liam's profess best friend. That also gives her every right to warn him about what she is seeing in his wife. Ask for taking Thomas off the line, I hope she does come to that. I hope hope loses her line for this.

Hope asked Steffy to convince Liam that Thomas had changed and was not a threat. She specifically asked her NOT to tell anything about her suspicions about Hope. And IIRC, Steffy agreed to that and even said that she may have overreacted.

And steffy was glad to do it until she saw that hope was the one who was the problem. And still she decided to be silent until her best friend was at his wit's end. Stephie had every right to say that too liam. It was not an overreaction hope should have told Liam about it months ago. Steffy doesn't have to keep any secrets for hope. hope should have gone right to her husband and told him the damn truth.

This is not on steffy. Stephie wouldn't even be involved if hope knew how to be honest.

We don't even know yet what is going on with Hope. Seems to me she doesn't want to be having these feelings for Thomas. And she hasn't acted on them and probably has no intention to ever do so. Maybe she wanted time to work it out. She may even have gone to a therapist. But everything is so complicated now. I agree with Finn. Steffy never should have inserted herself into this. I believe it's personal for her. When has it ever not been?

Liam never should have brought the subject up with his "best friend". In fact, he even apologized for that today.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I don't agree with that. Hope put staffing right in the middle when Hope told staffy to go to land and vouch for hope. So stevia every right to come back and say something when it turns out that she's getting gaslighted by hope. Stephanie is also Liam's profess best friend. That also gives her every right to warn him about what she is seeing in his wife. Ask for taking Thomas off the line, I hope she does come to that. I hope hope loses her line for this.

Hope asked Steffy to convince Liam that Thomas had changed and was not a threat. She specifically asked her NOT to tell anything about her suspicions about Hope. And IIRC, Steffy agreed to that and even said that she may have overreacted.

And steffy was glad to do it until she saw that hope was the one who was the problem. And still she decided to be silent until her best friend was at his wit's end. Stephie had every right to say that too liam. It was not an overreaction hope should have told Liam about it months ago. Steffy doesn't have to keep any secrets for hope. hope should have gone right to her husband and told him the damn truth.

This is not on steffy. Stephie wouldn't even be involved if hope knew how to be honest.

We don't even know yet what is going on with Hope. Seems to me she doesn't want to be having these feelings for Thomas. And she hasn't acted on them and probably has no intention to ever do so. Maybe she wanted time to work it out. She may even have gone to a therapist. But everything is so complicated now. I agree with Finn. Steffy never should have inserted herself into this. I believe it's personal for her. When has it ever not been?

Not we. You don't know what's going on with hope. I have my opinion of what's going on with her.

And whatever is going on with her she is dead wrong not to talk to her husband about it. She is dead wrong not to tell her husband that this man has been touching her. She is dead wrong not to tell her husband she's having these conflicting feelings. Hope is wrong. Hope is wrong to throw steffy under the bus about it. Hope is wrong to throw Brooke under the bus about it. Hope is wrong to blame Liam and deflected Liam's feelings so she doesn't have to tell him her own.

No matter what's wrong with her in the end, she's wrong for the way she's treating everybody else around her.

She behaved the same selfish way when she thought Beth was dead. And she treated Liam any kind of way. I gave her some slack for that because she thought her child was dead but I'm tired of how she treats liam. I'm tired of it.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I don't agree with that. Hope put staffing right in the middle when Hope told staffy to go to land and vouch for hope. So stevia every right to come back and say something when it turns out that she's getting gaslighted by hope. Stephanie is also Liam's profess best friend. That also gives her every right to warn him about what she is seeing in his wife. Ask for taking Thomas off the line, I hope she does come to that. I hope hope loses her line for this.

Hope asked Steffy to convince Liam that Thomas had changed and was not a threat. She specifically asked her NOT to tell anything about her suspicions about Hope. And IIRC, Steffy agreed to that and even said that she may have overreacted.

And steffy was glad to do it until she saw that hope was the one who was the problem. And still she decided to be silent until her best friend was at his wit's end. Stephie had every right to say that too liam. It was not an overreaction hope should have told Liam about it months ago. Steffy doesn't have to keep any secrets for hope. hope should have gone right to her husband and told him the damn truth.

This is not on steffy. Stephie wouldn't even be involved if hope knew how to be honest.

We don't even know yet what is going on with Hope. Seems to me she doesn't want to be having these feelings for Thomas. And she hasn't acted on them and probably has no intention to ever do so. Maybe she wanted time to work it out. She may even have gone to a therapist. But everything is so complicated now. I agree with Finn. Steffy never should have inserted herself into this. I believe it's personal for her. When has it ever not been?

Not we. You don't know what's going on with hope. I have my opinion of what's going on with her.

And whatever is going on with her she is dead wrong not to talk to her husband about it. She is dead wrong not to tell her husband that this man has been touching her. She is dead wrong not to tell her husband she's having these conflicting feelings. Hope is wrong. Hope is wrong to throw steffy under the bus about it. Hope is wrong to throw Brooke under the bus about it. Hope is wrong to blame Liam and deflected Liam's feelings so she doesn't have to tell him her own.

No matter what's wrong with her in the end, she's wrong for the way she's treating everybody else around her.

I have a different interpretation, so I'll leave it at that, rather than go back and forth.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

That’s all I need Finn to do. Under his breath he was calling her catty. He didn’t say it but that’s all we need from Finn. He loves his wife. He’s tuned in to her needs but he told her you dropped a bomb.

That’s all I need Finn to do. Under his breath he was calling her catty. He didn’t say it but that’s all we need from Finn. He loves his wife. He’s tuned in to her needs but he told her you dropped a bomb.

Agree. And he had no problem telling her. Good for him.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

Steffy did Hope a favor but she’s too blind to see it. Hope needs to stop lying to everyone, perhaps starting with herself. Finn should probably be reminded, if he knew in the first place, that Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam on her behalf.

Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam to convince him that Thomas had changed. This was before the hand holding accusation. When that happened Hope asked Steffy not to tell Liam about it. Steffy agreed.

Yes, and Steffy reassured Liam he had nothing to worry about concerning his marriage with Thope working together. When Steffy saw the hand caressing and back and forth eye and lip gazing she realized that was wrong and she was shocked that the weirdness was coming from Hope. She did tell Hope she wouldn’t say anything to Liam, and she did tell Finn she was going to give Hope the benefit of the doubt, but what is she supposed to do when Liam won’t take no for an answer and then says he gets a vibe that something is going on between Thope but can’t put his finger on what it is? Talk about snakes, sitting there in silence and letting a friend’s marriage implode when it could still be fixed would have been really low of Steffy. I can just see it now…Steffy knew but she wanted Thope to happen so she could steal Liam. She used her brother too!

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

She did Hope a favor. Hope needed to hear the things Liam said to her.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

Steffy did Hope a favor but she’s too blind to see it. Hope needs to stop lying to everyone, perhaps starting with herself. Finn should probably be reminded, if he knew in the first place, that Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam on her behalf.

Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam to convince him that Thomas had changed. This was before the hand holding accusation. When that happened Hope asked Steffy not to tell Liam about it. Steffy agreed.

Yes, and Steffy reassured Liam he had nothing to worry about concerning his marriage with Thope working together. When Steffy saw the hand caressing and back and forth eye and lip gazing she realized that was wrong and she was shocked that the weirdness was coming from Hope. She did tell Hope she wouldn’t say anything to Liam, and she did tell Finn she was going to give Hope the benefit of the doubt, but what is she supposed to do when Liam won’t take no for an answer and then says he gets a vibe that something is going on between Thope but can’t put his finger on what it is? Talk about snakes, sitting there in silence and letting a friend’s marriage implode when it could still be fixed would have been really low of Steffy. I can just see it now…Steffy knew but she wanted Thope to happen so she could steal Liam. She used her brother too!

What she's supposed to do is to tell Liam to go home and talk to his wife. In fact, Liam should not even have been discussing this issue with her. And he knows it, too. That's why he apologized to Hope for it today.

All I know is, whenever Steffy gets involved, it never turns out well for Hope. She just made this whole situation 1000x worse.

*I actually don't think Steffy is going after Liam...this time. But, I think she will always take the opportunity to hurt Hope. It was just a year or so ago that she declared war on the Logans and wanted revenge because Brooke "stole" Ridge from Taylor and Hope "stole" Liam from her.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

Exactly. Keep the work stuff at work and keep out of the personal/marriage stuff.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

She did Hope a favor. Hope needed to hear the things Liam said to her.

I didn't think so. Liam acts and talks like Hope's line is her hobby and something he put up with instead of her professional business. Steffy needs to stay out of their marriage and talk to Hope again if she is still having issues with it. I also think Liam needs to stop venting to Steffy about it.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Right now she is more worried about Hope. With good reasons.

I don’t think I’ve seen the word wrong used so much

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

Steffy did Hope a favor but she’s too blind to see it. Hope needs to stop lying to everyone, perhaps starting with herself. Finn should probably be reminded, if he knew in the first place, that Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam on her behalf.

Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam to convince him that Thomas had changed. This was before the hand holding accusation. When that happened Hope asked Steffy not to tell Liam about it. Steffy agreed.

Yes, and Steffy reassured Liam he had nothing to worry about concerning his marriage with Thope working together. When Steffy saw the hand caressing and back and forth eye and lip gazing she realized that was wrong and she was shocked that the weirdness was coming from Hope. She did tell Hope she wouldn’t say anything to Liam, and she did tell Finn she was going to give Hope the benefit of the doubt, but what is she supposed to do when Liam won’t take no for an answer and then says he gets a vibe that something is going on between Thope but can’t put his finger on what it is? Talk about snakes, sitting there in silence and letting a friend’s marriage implode when it could still be fixed would have been really low of Steffy. I can just see it now…Steffy knew but she wanted Thope to happen so she could steal Liam. She used her brother too!

What she's supposed to do is to tell Liam to go home and talk to his wife. In fact, Liam should not even have been discussing this issue with her. And he knows it, too. That's why he apologized to Hope for it today.

All I know is, whenever Steffy gets involved, it never turns out well for Hope. She just made this whole situation 1000x worse.

*I actually don't think Steffy is going after Liam...this time. But, I think she will always take the opportunity to hurt Hope. It was just a year or so ago that she declared war on the Logans and wanted revenge because Brooke "stole" Ridge from Taylor and Hope "stole" Liam from her.

Even though I am disappointed in the way Hope has been acting, I can't help remembering the way the Steffy and Taylor were smug and giddy about how Hope working with Thomas was going to affect Liam and Hope's marriage. I think if Liam leaves Hope, it won't be long until Steffy starts putting the moves on him. Finn may get tired of Steffy being so involved in Liam's marriage if she keeps putting herself in it. If Lope breaks up, of course Steffy will be the one that Liam runs to so she can console him since she is his back pocket gal. Finn was looking at her like she was nuts today while she was sitting there with her Steffy smug look on her face.

I don’t think I’ve seen the word wrong used so much

Apparently, like they say, hope "don't want to be right."

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

She did Hope a favor. Hope needed to hear the things Liam said to her.

I didn't think so. Liam acts and talks like Hope's line is her hobby and something he put up with instead of her professional business. Steffy needs to stay out of their marriage and talk to Hope again if she is still having issues with it. I also think Liam needs to stop venting to Steffy about it.

I haven't thought about that before, but Liam does treat Hope's line like a hobby instead of seeing Hope as a professional. If Liam really wants Hope away from Thomas, I don't see why Liam doesn't ask Bill to help sponsor a line for Hope. They don't have to call it HFTF since Forrester owns the right to that name, but they could call it Forever Hope or Hope Forever. They could change the message to saving the environment and have clothing made from environmentally friendly fabrics. They could even expand to other environmentally friendly products. In fact, Hope and Liam could start the company together and work together has co-presidents.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

Completely disagree. Liam asks her about it practically daily and at this point it would have a lie of omission not to tell him what she knew. It would be like letting Liam walk into a lions’ den. It might not feel like it to Hope right now but that conversation with Liam gave her several opportunities to get herself out of this whole mess and she didn’t take them. Maybe she’ll think about their talk later on and make some changes, or maybe she’ll continue on the path she was on. We’ll have to see. Either way I’m sure before Hope reflects on her own behavior, and what she could do differently, she’ll be making a beeline to Steffy to tell her off. Boo hoo Hope. I am glad Finn objected though so I don’t have to read about him always agreeing with Steffy.

Finn was great today. He took issue with her getting involved in their marriage business, and he was right. Like I was saying above, Steffy should do something that falls under her CEO title. There would be nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But she shouldn't get involved with personal stuff. I knew she was going to get involved and make everything worse. Hope is right about her. Liam is blind to how much she hates Hope and wants to hurt her. We've seen it over and over and over, for more than a decade.

Steffy did Hope a favor but she’s too blind to see it. Hope needs to stop lying to everyone, perhaps starting with herself. Finn should probably be reminded, if he knew in the first place, that Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam on her behalf.

Hope asked Steffy to talk to Liam to convince him that Thomas had changed. This was before the hand holding accusation. When that happened Hope asked Steffy not to tell Liam about it. Steffy agreed.

Yes, and Steffy reassured Liam he had nothing to worry about concerning his marriage with Thope working together. When Steffy saw the hand caressing and back and forth eye and lip gazing she realized that was wrong and she was shocked that the weirdness was coming from Hope. She did tell Hope she wouldn’t say anything to Liam, and she did tell Finn she was going to give Hope the benefit of the doubt, but what is she supposed to do when Liam won’t take no for an answer and then says he gets a vibe that something is going on between Thope but can’t put his finger on what it is? Talk about snakes, sitting there in silence and letting a friend’s marriage implode when it could still be fixed would have been really low of Steffy. I can just see it now…Steffy knew but she wanted Thope to happen so she could steal Liam. She used her brother too!

What she's supposed to do is to tell Liam to go home and talk to his wife. In fact, Liam should not even have been discussing this issue with her. And he knows it, too. That's why he apologized to Hope for it today.

All I know is, whenever Steffy gets involved, it never turns out well for Hope. She just made this whole situation 1000x worse.

*I actually don't think Steffy is going after Liam...this time. But, I think she will always take the opportunity to hurt Hope. It was just a year or so ago that she declared war on the Logans and wanted revenge because Brooke "stole" Ridge from Taylor and Hope "stole" Liam from her.

Even though I am disappointed in the way Hope has been acting, I can't help remembering the way the Steffy and Taylor were smug and giddy about how Hope working with Thomas was going to affect Liam and Hope's marriage. I think if Liam leaves Hope, it won't be long until Steffy starts putting the moves on him. Finn may get tired of Steffy being so involved in Liam's marriage if she keeps putting herself in it. If Lope breaks up, of course Steffy will be the one that Liam runs to so she can console him since she is his back pocket gal. Finn was looking at her like she was nuts today while she was sitting there with her Steffy smug look on her face.

I thought there was a possibility of it too, at one point. But then it came out that JMW was pregnant and it no longer made sense to me that Steffy would go after Liam, just because the actress would be going on maternity leave. With Steffy, though, there is always the possibility .

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

Steffy clearly said she is protecting her brother. She clearly said she's looking out for his best interest. That's personal, that's not her employee at the moment. That's her brother. She keeps saying that. In a family business, I'm not even sure how you separate family from employees. I don't think you can.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

She did Hope a favor. Hope needed to hear the things Liam said to her.

I didn't think so. Liam acts and talks like Hope's line is her hobby and something he put up with instead of her professional business. Steffy needs to stay out of their marriage and talk to Hope again if she is still having issues with it. I also think Liam needs to stop venting to Steffy about it.

That's not true according to the dialogue.

JMW was pregnant when the mistake sex, happened, when Liam went Hope after she had Kelly.
I don’t think it matters if she is pregnant! She barely takes off! Good that they have a great family building environment at B&B!

SC spoke about it before.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think she wants Hope to stay out of toms life …it’s Hopes that’s fallen hard so now Liam’s got the heads up..I love Liam may get dumped

I have to agree with you it was Steffy was not Steffy’s place to tell even if I understand her frustration to hear Liam accusing Thomas again and again. The one person she should be talking to is Thomas to encourage him not to see anything romantic about Hope’s friendship and appreciation. To remind him Hope is married and committed.

It wasn't steffy's place to go to Liam and vouch for hope, then. That's exactly what hope asked Stephie to do. And that is not right that if stephy sees something that contradicts what Hope was trying to get her to tell liam, that steffy he can't tell it to him. No that doesn't work like that. Hope ask Stephanie to get involved and now hope is getting what she asked for.

Right ..steffy is not the bad guy actualy Liam is a nag I so want him to catch them in bed

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think she wants Hope to stay out of toms life …it’s Hopes that’s fallen hard so now Liam’s got the heads up..I love Liam may get dumped

She could accomplish that in a professional way. Say to hell with the line. Disband it. Or have Thomas work remotely. Have Hope work remotely. What she shouldn't do is get involved in someone's marriage.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

I think Steffy needs to look out for ALL her employees, being the CEO. She had a talk with Hope already, she shouldn't have said anything to Liam.

Steffy clearly said she is protecting her brother. She clearly said she's looking out for his best interest. That's personal, that's not her employee at the moment. That's her brother. She keeps saying that. In a family business, I'm not even sure how you separate family from employees. I don't think you can.

Yep, I rewatched todays episode and Steffy repeated over and over that she’s looking out for Thomas.

She's the CEO of the company. If she's worried about Thomas then all she has to do is pull him off of HFTF. Or cancel the line. Or any number of other solutions. She had no right to say anything to Liam. I'm glad Finn called her out on it.

And why did she blindside Hope with her ultimatum which included Thomas? Knowing his YEARS of Hope obsession takes time to get over it..nobody get over that kind of obsession overnight. Then said to her mother that "Hope has to say yes" to her ultimatum. Steffy is full of it..just a two-faced snake pretending to care about everyone in this situation.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.