Hope must have dissociative identity disorder (Spoilers)

GracieGirl, 5/26/2023, 1:56PM (346 days ago)

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

fan87, 5/26/2023, 2:03PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.

Yes I was happy to see Finn finally show some backbone!!

Yes, Hope is either a liar or just very, very manipulative if it’s not some kind of mental issue. I was so happy to see Liam say what I’ve felt all along, no mom would ever want a man who let her believe for months her child was dead. Liam is spot onto it be able to forgive that. Hope has a choice to make, it’s either her family with Liam or the one with Thomas, no more straddling the fence. Even Liam has to eventually choose a family.

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Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

Tiqui1999 @, 5/26/2023, 2:50PM (346 days ago) @fan87

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.


Yes I was happy to see Finn finally show some backbone!!

Yes, Hope is either a liar or just very, very manipulative if it’s not some kind of mental issue. I was so happy to see Liam say what I’ve felt all along, no mom would ever want a man who let her believe for months her child was dead. Liam is spot onto it be able to forgive that. Hope has a choice to make, it’s either her family with Liam or the one with Thomas, no more straddling the fence. Even Liam has to eventually choose a family.

Right and Liam also brought her ass back from gaslight land when he told her that it is not about her damn career. She always wants to use that as an excuse.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

fan87, 5/26/2023, 5:15PM (346 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.


Yes I was happy to see Finn finally show some backbone!!

Yes, Hope is either a liar or just very, very manipulative if it’s not some kind of mental issue. I was so happy to see Liam say what I’ve felt all along, no mom would ever want a man who let her believe for months her child was dead. Liam is spot onto it be able to forgive that. Hope has a choice to make, it’s either her family with Liam or the one with Thomas, no more straddling the fence. Even Liam has to eventually choose a family.


Right and Liam also brought her ass back from gaslight land when he told her that it is not about her damn career. She always wants to use that as an excuse.

The career thing is just Hope’s way to deflect. She’s conflicted and wants to find a way to change the narrative. Liam’s instincts are exactly right, he’s gotta take a stand.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

takerkid @, 5/26/2023, 2:06PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

Liam said it himself. Hope is in denial. She hasn't accepted her own feelings for Thomas and so her reflex is to lie and deny they exist.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

krort @, 5/26/2023, 2:09PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

Hope is still not answering Liam's ONE question when asked pointblank, yes or no does she have feelings for Thomas.

Of course Liam always comes around to mentioning this is an old problem and he has asked her many times before to let Thomas go as her head designer. She lets him know that she is a professional just like Lam is and now he is not trusting her to know what she needs to run her line.

But in the end it is Hope who refuses to let Tom go or even consider that he could stay on but just not work side by side in the same vicinity. One could be there at office, one could be at home or at least another office there at Forrester but seems that does not meet with her approval.

So on those terms I say all of this and their marriage is on Hope, whether she is fully aware of it or not.and if not, perhaps it is time to listen to those around her that she needs to seek help to figure this out.

Otherwise everyone is just treading water getting nowhere but more frustrated. How can either one crawl into bed (or couch) at night with all of this on their mind?


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Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

matisse, 5/26/2023, 2:33PM (346 days ago) @krort

Hope is still not answering Liam's ONE question when asked pointblank, yes or no does she have feelings for Thomas.

Of course Liam always comes around to mentioning this is an old problem and he has asked her many times before to let Thomas go as her head designer. She lets him know that she is a professional just like Lam is and now he is not trusting her to know what she needs to run her line.

But in the end it is Hope who refuses to let Tom go or even consider that he could stay on but just not work side by side in the same vicinity. One could be there at office, one could be at home or at least another office there at Forrester but seems that does not meet with her approval.

So on those terms I say all of this and their marriage is on Hope, whether she is fully aware of it or not.and if not, perhaps it is time to listen to those around her that she needs to seek help to figure this out.

Otherwise everyone is just treading water getting nowhere but more frustrated. How can either one crawl into bed (or couch) at night with all of this on their mind?


Wanda

Se told him NO, she did not have feelings for Tom other than their business dealings....and Hope was in despair and desperate, that woman does not want to lose Liam, and she now knows, it could happen if she keeps up this nonsense. At least that is what I saw on the show today....it was great. She knows she is causing Liam's angst, she knows that she is possibly harming Tom too, she knows that she is lying, but most importantly, as she said today....Liam is her heart. She is going to be in total panic mode now.

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Drangonfly @, 5/26/2023, 2:44PM (346 days ago) @matisse

Hope is still not answering Liam's ONE question when asked pointblank, yes or no does she have feelings for Thomas.

Of course Liam always comes around to mentioning this is an old problem and he has asked her many times before to let Thomas go as her head designer. She lets him know that she is a professional just like Lam is and now he is not trusting her to know what she needs to run her line.

But in the end it is Hope who refuses to let Tom go or even consider that he could stay on but just not work side by side in the same vicinity. One could be there at office, one could be at home or at least another office there at Forrester but seems that does not meet with her approval.

So on those terms I say all of this and their marriage is on Hope, whether she is fully aware of it or not.and if not, perhaps it is time to listen to those around her that she needs to seek help to figure this out.

Otherwise everyone is just treading water getting nowhere but more frustrated. How can either one crawl into bed (or couch) at night with all of this on their mind?


Wanda


Se told him NO, she did not have feelings for Tom other than their business dealings....and Hope was in despair and desperate, that woman does not want to lose Liam, and she now knows, it could happen if she keeps up this nonsense. At least that is what I saw on the show today....it was great. She knows she is causing Liam's angst, she knows that she is possibly harming Tom too, she knows that she is lying, but most importantly, as she said today....Liam is her heart. She is going to be in total panic mode now.

I believe that Hope does not want to be having these feelings for Thomas. And I don't think she has any plans to act on them. She probably believes she can work through this and have things get back to normal. But now that Steffy dropped the bomb on Liam it's going to be a lot harder. Liam is not going to trust Hope and will be on high alert. Steffy will probably insert herself even more. Things are about to get a whole lot worse. Maybe even to the point where Lope break up and Hope turns to Thomas. :puke

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

DC, 5/26/2023, 2:40PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.

Hope needs to talk to a professional, obviously, she doesn't know what she is doing or what she truly wants, all that crying and defending herself was a dead give away, that girl needs help.

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Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

Tiqui1999 @, 5/26/2023, 2:47PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.

She told Liam that if he can't put up with thomas, then Liam needs to let it go. I strongly advise Lynn to go to carter, get some divorce papers, and let it go.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

SonOfMan ⌂, VT, 5/26/2023, 5:20PM (346 days ago) @Tiqui1999

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.


She told Liam that if he can't put up with thomas, then Liam needs to let it go. I strongly advise Lynn to go to carter, get some divorce papers, and let it go.

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Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

JX @, 5/26/2023, 5:30PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

Or 3 - Bell is messing with everyone :lol
Also Liam is no man! He is a whiny little boy who treats Hope like a child and her job like a hobby:puke
The very last person on earth Waffle Boy should be talking to about his marriage is the woman who needed to get TWO paternity tests to see if he was the father :lol

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

Soapyfun41, 5/26/2023, 6:50PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.

Do you know what DID looks like? What causes it? We would see things like Hope waking up in someone else bed with no memories, or finding things in her closet she doesn’t recall buying, and running into people that think they know her well, but she has no memory. DID is being a completely different person but not remembering it, and it is almost exclusively seen in someone that has suffered severe abuse, usually sexual.

Hope is in denial. She is lying because she is afraid to admit the truth for fear it will destroy her life. It isn’t about cruelty to Liam. It is about being afraid of disappointing people and blowing up her life. People lie to themselves all of the time and don’t have DID. And over the years, I have certainly seen Brooke easily lie to the men in her life.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

GracieGirl, 5/26/2023, 8:41PM (346 days ago) @Soapyfun41

I am not a psychiatrist. I’ve only seen how it plays out in the movies. All I know is that Hope is acting like at least two people to me. Far be it for this show to portray DID correctly. My point is it’s easier for me to believe Hope is two different people than what I’m seeing on screen. I did not recognize Hope today. This goes beyond denial. There is a psychological element to this, I don’t know that it is. No one acts this way.

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Drangonfly @, 5/26/2023, 8:51PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

I am not a psychiatrist. I’ve only seen how it plays out in the movies. All I know is that Hope is acting like at least two people to me. Far be it for this show to portray DID correctly. My point is it’s easier for me to believe Hope is two different people than what I’m seeing on screen. I did not recognize Hope today. This goes beyond denial. There is a psychological element to this, I don’t know that it is. No one acts this way.

I agree it's a psychological issue, too. But, maybe more like a nervous breakdown or identity crisis. Something along those lines. Also, there's the very strong possibility that Thomas really has changed. Maybe Hope finds that she admires him now and that's playing with her head. Maybe it's something like..."I know I shouldn't admire him...so, why do I? What's wrong with me? I must be bad. I must be like my mother." Just spitballing here. ;-)

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

Liz @, 5/26/2023, 9:06PM (346 days ago) @Drangonfly

I am not a psychiatrist. I’ve only seen how it plays out in the movies. All I know is that Hope is acting like at least two people to me. Far be it for this show to portray DID correctly. My point is it’s easier for me to believe Hope is two different people than what I’m seeing on screen. I did not recognize Hope today. This goes beyond denial. There is a psychological element to this, I don’t know that it is. No one acts this way.


I agree it's a psychological issue, too. But, maybe more like a nervous breakdown or identity crisis. Something along those lines. Also, there's the very strong possibility that Thomas really has changed. Maybe Hope finds that she admires him now and that's playing with her head. Maybe it's something like..."I know I shouldn't admire him...so, why do I? What's wrong with me? I must be bad. I must be like my mother." Just spitballing here. ;-)

For years, Brooke and Liam have been against Thomas while Hope has skipped along singing his praises. Every time she's stood by Thomas, he's pretty much made her look like a fool. Must be so defeating and demoralizing to be hoodwinked by a man again and again and again. And worse, it must be so humiliating to realize that you've been putting your faith in a person who is mentally deranged. Liam and Brooke were right on the money. Hope was dead wrong. That has to take a serious toll on your psyche. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Hope has convinced herself that she has feelings for Thomas because she's been emotionally abused by him.

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Drangonfly @, 5/26/2023, 10:12PM (346 days ago) @Liz

I am not a psychiatrist. I’ve only seen how it plays out in the movies. All I know is that Hope is acting like at least two people to me. Far be it for this show to portray DID correctly. My point is it’s easier for me to believe Hope is two different people than what I’m seeing on screen. I did not recognize Hope today. This goes beyond denial. There is a psychological element to this, I don’t know that it is. No one acts this way.


I agree it's a psychological issue, too. But, maybe more like a nervous breakdown or identity crisis. Something along those lines. Also, there's the very strong possibility that Thomas really has changed. Maybe Hope finds that she admires him now and that's playing with her head. Maybe it's something like..."I know I shouldn't admire him...so, why do I? What's wrong with me? I must be bad. I must be like my mother." Just spitballing here. ;-)


For years, Brooke and Liam have been against Thomas while Hope has skipped along singing his praises. Every time she's stood by Thomas, he's pretty much made her look like a fool. Must be so defeating and demoralizing to be hoodwinked by a man again and again and again. And worse, it must be so humiliating to realize that you've been putting your faith in a person who is mentally deranged. Liam and Brooke were right on the money. Hope was dead wrong. That has to take a serious toll on your psyche. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Hope has convinced herself that she has feelings for Thomas because she's been emotionally abused by him.

Could be something like that. It's either that or Bell is going to put Hope with the guy who sexually stalked her. In the age of the Me Too movement. Crazy times on B&B. :oh

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

hopeyougogirl, 5/26/2023, 7:19PM (346 days ago) @GracieGirl

There is no other explanation. When Brooke is confronted, she finds it difficult to lie. Sorry folks we have two choices. Either Hope is intentionally gaslighting her family or she has no idea what’s going on with her. Sorry. Today was absolutely cruel to me. Is Hope really that cruel? Now Liam is the bad guy. What’s a man supposed to do in this situation? By the way Finn, thanks for standing up to Steffy.

This mess started when she found out her line's in trouble. When her line was fine, she was fine with NO fantasizing at all! It was Thomas who? LOL.

So, her professional baby is her identity. IMO, Hope is acting like if she ever loses her line, she would die. That's why she's desperately hanging on to the only savior....she's defending him, prasing him..because she needs him to continue to save her professional baby. Her supposed feelings for him is unhealthy..that's why creepy music played during Thope scenes.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

Hope must have dissociative identity disorder

GracieGirl, 5/27/2023, 12:32AM (346 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

That’s how it looks. I keep saying there is no real romance here.

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