Things will never be the same (General)

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Thank you. Excellent post. I feel the same.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Nah..Lope won’t be dead for long. Look at Bridge? Soon to be undead.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I really hope Liam walks straight away from hope. And I hope she sits there and cries and drags herself behind him like that picture I have of Steffy in the corner over there. Because that's what hope deserves.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

But that's to be expected. Thomas never made any claim about not being in love with her. He has been very honest about that. That's what steff is worried about. And his progress will be impeded by hope and her stupid feelings.

Recently, he said to Taylor that his feelings were platonic. And I hope that's true. I hope he turns her down and she's just left on the floor crying by herself for her stupid childish behavior.

Now that would be different...

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

My guess is they are resuscitating Bridge to balance the show. Thope for Tridge fans and Bridge for Bridge fans. Even if Thope doesn’t happen I love how they are portraying the new Thomas

She’s acting like she has a teen crush. She’s not acting like an adult woman.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

Well, snake Steffy had no issues keeping her obsessed brother's secret from Liam..if she was going to be 100% truthful with Liam, then why not tell him EVERYTHING including Thomas initiated that first hand holding?!

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

Well, Steffy had no issues keeping her obsessed brother's secret from Liam..if she was going to be 100% truthful with Liam, then why not tell him EVERYTHING including Thomas initiated that first hand holding?!

Too bad she didn't see Thomas give Hope that big bear hug in SF.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

Well, Steffy had no issues keeping her obsessed brother's secret from Liam..if she was going to be 100% truthful with Liam, then why not tell him EVERYTHING including Thomas initiated that first hand holding?!

Too bad she didn't see Thomas give Hope that big bear hug in SF.

Yeah, and why hasn't Thomas telling Taylor and Steffy that he still constantly has flashbacks of Hope, Douglas and him?! If Hope is suppose to be truthful with Liam about her supposed feelings for that monster, then shouldn't obsessed Thomas do the same?! Come clean about his constant thoughts/flashbacks of a MARRIED Hope.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

Well, Steffy had no issues keeping her obsessed brother's secret from Liam..if she was going to be 100% truthful with Liam, then why not tell him EVERYTHING including Thomas initiated that first hand holding?!

Too bad she didn't see Thomas give Hope that big bear hug in SF.

Yeah, and why hasn't Thomas telling Taylor and Steffy that he still constantly has flashbacks of Hope, Douglas and him?! If Hope is suppose to be truthful with Liam about her supposed feelings for that monster, then shouldn't obsessed Thomas do the same?! Come clean about his constant thoughts/flashbacks.

The flashbacks don't contain Beth. Thomas couldn't come clean if they put him through a car wash.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

There's always going to be angst as long as there are couples. And angst is exactly what couples need in order to be front and center on a soap. Example...Sinn are blissfully happy...and where is Finn? Off screen while his wife has tons of scenes alone with her ex.

Some claimed things were never going to be the same after Hope married Thomas, and look what happened.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

Well, Steffy had no issues keeping her obsessed brother's secret from Liam..if she was going to be 100% truthful with Liam, then why not tell him EVERYTHING including Thomas initiated that first hand holding?!

Too bad she didn't see Thomas give Hope that big bear hug in SF.

Yeah, and why hasn't Thomas telling Taylor and Steffy that he still constantly has flashbacks of Hope, Douglas and him?! If Hope is suppose to be truthful with Liam about her supposed feelings for that monster, then shouldn't obsessed Thomas do the same?! Come clean about his constant thoughts/flashbacks.

The flashbacks don't contain Beth. Thomas couldn't come clean if they put him through a car wash.

LOL. Yep..and Hope will never fully be happy with that monster who cared nothing about Beth.

His constant flashbacks..his constant talk about HOPE HOPE HOPE..his lving breathing everything HOPE and her line..all proved to me that he hasn't changed at all. The only way I'll buy that he's over his Hope obsession is if he actually moves on and has a healthy dating life. He is just better at hiding his obsession now is all. Taylor/Steffy have no idea that he's constantly having these flashbacks.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

Well, snake Steffy had no issues keeping her obsessed brother's secret from Liam..if she was going to be 100% truthful with Liam, then why not tell him EVERYTHING including Thomas initiated that first hand holding?!

I honestly don’t know if Steffy saw the first hand hold or not, but tbh I don’t think much of hugging or holding hands for a short time with a member of the opposite sex in a supportive or congratulatory way. I do think something of caressing their hands, making goo goo eyes at them, gazing into their eyes, and looking back and forth at their eyes and their lips the way Hope did. As Steffy said to both Finn and Liam she knows when a woman wants a man. Hope looks like she wants Thomas. The premise is Thomas has worked on himself and he’s trying to do his best but people are still wary of him. Steffy is worried about Hope derailing his progress and that’s exactly what the mixed signals Hope is sending him (“I love my husband” juxtaposed with looking at him like she wants to jump all over him) is going to do. Today was the first Thomas flashback that involved Douglas, so I’d say derailment may have begun. At the very least it’s starting to dawn on Thomas that Hope has “feelings” for him.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

Of course, it's true..I saw it with my own two eyes on my tv he indeed initiated that FIRST hand holding..there were 2 in that episode. And he INITIATED the first one. Smh. He's the one with many years of Hope obsession and he knows Hope is still a married woman, so IMO, that was totally inappropriate to INITIATE hand holding on his part. Of course, Steffy just overlooked what he did and only wants to bash Hope for the 2nd hand holding to Liam. Typical snake Steffy.

So snake Steffy should keep thirsty Hope’s secret? I’m pretty sure Hope’s hands work and she could have pulled them away in either scene. Instead, in the second one she was caressing Thomas’s hands.

Well, snake Steffy had no issues keeping her obsessed brother's secret from Liam..if she was going to be 100% truthful with Liam, then why not tell him EVERYTHING including Thomas initiated that first hand holding?!

I honestly don’t know if Steffy saw the first hand hold or not, but tbh I don’t think much of hugging or holding hands for a short time with a member of the opposite sex in a supportive or congratulatory way. I do think something of caressing their hands, making goo goo eyes at them, gazing into their eyes, and looking back and forth at their eyes and their lips the way Hope did. As Steffy said to both Finn and Liam she knows when a woman wants a man. Thomas is not the point here, Hope is. The premise is he’s worked on himself and he’s trying to do his best but people are still wary of him. Steffy is worried about Hope derailing his progress and that’s exactly what the mixed signals Hope is sending him (“I love my husband” juxtaposed with looking at him like she wants to jump all over him) is going to do.

Steffy was in the room and she witnessed him initiating the first hand holding! But she conviently left out this part when talking to Liam. That IMO is being a sneaky snake.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I don’t think she would ! She would run straight in Thomas arms

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

It passes time that’s about it…y and r is better..I can’t stomach nag
Brooke and can not stomach Liam but am enjoying this new revamped Hope

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Nah..Lope won’t be dead for long. Look at Bridge? Soon to be undead.

Disgusting rehash

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

So far tom is not out of line it’s all Hope

Great post

I really hope Liam walks straight away from hope. And I hope she sits there and cries and drags herself behind him like that picture I have of Steffy in the corner over there. Because that's what hope deserves.

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As if Hope would care at this point
She’d be relieved to be rid of that controlling husband of hers. She’d jump at the chance to go start a life with the man she’s actually in love with.
No more Liam and no more guilt to weight her down.

I really hope Liam walks straight away from hope. And I hope she sits there and cries and drags herself behind him like that picture I have of Steffy in the corner over there. Because that's what hope deserves.

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As if Hope would care at this point
She’d be relieved to be rid of that controlling husband of hers. She’d jump at the chance to go start a life with the man she’s actually in love with.
No more Liam and no more guilt to weight her down.

And when did Hope bang that abusive monster, got knocked up and didn't know who's her baby daddy? Not even close! I doubt she would be down on her hands and knees like cheater Steffy did.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

I cheered for Steffy who I dislike and booed Hope whom I historically rooted for. Why? Steffy described in detailed what she saw and when Liam said that he’s been telling everyone how much time Hope has invested in their relationship, Steffy gave him that look. Now you know why! Liam got it right away. Yes Lope is dead and I’m happy for Liam as long as he never goes back to Steffy. Neither woman is good for him. This back and forth has destroyed Liam as a character especially with fans. If the show could guarantee me which they will not that they will bring back Ivy or someone new for Liam, I will watch. I need a couple to root for, just one. No couple to root for, why watch!

Steffy did see Hope looking into Thomas's eyes and holding his hands. What she didn't see because his back was to her, Thomas looking into Hope's eyes and also caressing her hands.

Not to mention, Steffy saw her brother INITIATED the first hand holding, yet she said nothing about that to Liam. What a snake. And since when is Steffy such an expert on being so sure that her brother is 100% over his Hope obsession?! Just because he claimed so, doesn't make it true. He spent YEARS obsessing over Hope and I'm suppose to believe that he's over it overnight? Doubt it. Even today, he's still flashback on Thope and Douglas. And until I actually see him move on and get a healthy dating life, he IS still obsessed with a married Hope.

Now you know that’s not true. Thomas opened his hands as he made a comment about them designing, when Hope grabs his hands after placing her hands on top of his. Thomas have Not made any romantic gestures toward Hope, and has been professional.

He is fighting his feelings just like Hope. It makes them both very unhappy because they have to deny their mutual love for the good cause. But each day, both are having more troubles to control their emotions.

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I really hope Liam walks straight away from hope. And I hope she sits there and cries and drags herself behind him like that picture I have of Steffy in the corner over there. Because that's what hope deserves.

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As if Hope would care at this point
She’d be relieved to be rid of that controlling husband of hers. She’d jump at the chance to go start a life with the man she’s actually in love with.
No more Liam and no more guilt to weight her down.

And when did Hope bang that abusive monster, got knocked up and didn't know who's her baby daddy? Not even close! I doubt she would be down on her hands and knees like cheater Steffy did.

Liam abused two gals for years by being a waffel

He sure did.

I hope she wouldnt. She had fantasies and anancastic thoughts of Tom and her but she did not act on them. She didn´t "derail" Tom, she didn´t kiss him or tell him that she wants him...but already the "thought police" is after her, in the shape of Steffy...