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moonlightof1982, 5/25/2023, 3:01AM (352 days ago)

A clip of Hope and Liam arguing about Thomas!

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GLFan, 5/25/2023, 7:16AM (352 days ago) @moonlightof1982
edited by GLFan, 5/25/2023, 7:27AM

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.

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Barbybo, 5/25/2023, 7:53AM (352 days ago) @GLFan

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.

Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty

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matisse, 5/25/2023, 7:55AM (352 days ago) @Barbybo

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty

That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.

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Barbybo, 5/25/2023, 7:57AM (352 days ago) @matisse

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty


That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.

Sure it’s about him nit wanting Tom on her line..pretty soon he may want to give the kid back to Tom to cut more ties

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matisse, 5/25/2023, 8:14AM (352 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty


That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.


Sure it’s about him nit wanting Tom on her line..pretty soon he may want to give the kid back to Tom to cut more ties

That is not what he is saying in that clip....he is saying this has nothing to do with her career and everything to do with their marriage. She is trying to pretend this is about him not wanting her to have a career, so she does not have to admit the truth to him and show that SHE is the bad guy that has cheating in her heart. He is also saying that SHE is the one that TOLD him that she wanted Tom out of their lives after his lies and crimes, Liam did not DEMAND that she throw Tom out of their lives and his job, he just told her how he felt about Tom and what he did to her mother, them and his own son. Hope told Liam it is what she wanted and she meant it. Now she has reneged on that and expects Liam to just "accept" that Tom is OK now.....I call BS on it. Hope put herself in this mess, all by herself, and now she is trying to throw her dirt on Liam and cry to everyone that HE is making her choose....again....BS.

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Barbybo, 5/25/2023, 8:30AM (352 days ago) @matisse

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty


That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.


Sure it’s about him nit wanting Tom on her line..pretty soon he may want to give the kid back to Tom to cut more ties


That is not what he is saying in that clip....he is saying this has nothing to do with her career and everything to do with their marriage. She is trying to pretend this is about him not wanting her to have a career, so she does not have to admit the truth to him and show that SHE is the bad guy that has cheating in her heart. He is also saying that SHE is the one that TOLD him that she wanted Tom out of their lives after his lies and crimes, Liam did not DEMAND that she throw Tom out of their lives and his job, he just told her how he felt about Tom and what he did to her mother, them and his own son. Hope told Liam it is what she wanted and she meant it. Now she has reneged on that and expects Liam to just "accept" that Tom is OK now.....I call BS on it. Hope put herself in this mess, all by herself, and now she is trying to throw her dirt on Liam and cry to everyone that HE is making her choose....again....BS.

If her career requires long hours he kinda is obstructing her success…Liam will never stop nagging and Hopes falling for tom, he’s such a weirdo a dump for him is good…Liam ain’t ambitious so he don’t understand it

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 9:33AM (352 days ago) @Barbybo

I have not seen any of the rest of the people at that company working such "long hours" that it interrupts their entire household and family.

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GLFan, 5/25/2023, 10:16AM (352 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this
edited by GLFan, 5/25/2023, 10:41AM

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty


That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.


Sure it’s about him nit wanting Tom on her line..pretty soon he may want to give the kid back to Tom to cut more ties


That is not what he is saying in that clip....he is saying this has nothing to do with her career and everything to do with their marriage. She is trying to pretend this is about him not wanting her to have a career, so she does not have to admit the truth to him and show that SHE is the bad guy that has cheating in her heart. He is also saying that SHE is the one that TOLD him that she wanted Tom out of their lives after his lies and crimes, Liam did not DEMAND that she throw Tom out of their lives and his job, he just told her how he felt about Tom and what he did to her mother, them and his own son. Hope told Liam it is what she wanted and she meant it. Now she has reneged on that and expects Liam to just "accept" that Tom is OK now.....I call BS on it. Hope put herself in this mess, all by herself, and now she is trying to throw her dirt on Liam and cry to everyone that HE is making her choose....again....BS.


If her career requires long hours he kinda is obstructing her success…Liam will never stop nagging and Hopes falling for tom, he’s such a weirdo a dump for him is good…Liam ain’t ambitious so he don’t understand it

The thing is we know Hope is full of it, i.e. she has “feelings” for Thomas, but let’s see how it plays out because Bell’s favorite hobby for the past few years has been teasing Thope. If neither of them ever act on it what’s the big deal? Yet it could still create a mess.

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q, 5/25/2023, 11:42AM (352 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty


That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.


Sure it’s about him nit wanting Tom on her line..pretty soon he may want to give the kid back to Tom to cut more ties


That is not what he is saying in that clip....he is saying this has nothing to do with her career and everything to do with their marriage. She is trying to pretend this is about him not wanting her to have a career, so she does not have to admit the truth to him and show that SHE is the bad guy that has cheating in her heart. He is also saying that SHE is the one that TOLD him that she wanted Tom out of their lives after his lies and crimes, Liam did not DEMAND that she throw Tom out of their lives and his job, he just told her how he felt about Tom and what he did to her mother, them and his own son. Hope told Liam it is what she wanted and she meant it. Now she has reneged on that and expects Liam to just "accept" that Tom is OK now.....I call BS on it. Hope put herself in this mess, all by herself, and now she is trying to throw her dirt on Liam and cry to everyone that HE is making her choose....again....BS.


If her career requires long hours he kinda is obstructing her success…Liam will never stop nagging and Hopes falling for tom, he’s such a weirdo a dump for him is good…Liam ain’t ambitious so he don’t understand it

Liam isn't ambitious? Did you see or at least listen to the scene between Liam and Bill? How Bill was praising the job Liam is doing? How he and Wyatt are starting up a new business for SP?

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 12:13PM (352 days ago) @q

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty


That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.


Sure it’s about him nit wanting Tom on her line..pretty soon he may want to give the kid back to Tom to cut more ties


That is not what he is saying in that clip....he is saying this has nothing to do with her career and everything to do with their marriage. She is trying to pretend this is about him not wanting her to have a career, so she does not have to admit the truth to him and show that SHE is the bad guy that has cheating in her heart. He is also saying that SHE is the one that TOLD him that she wanted Tom out of their lives after his lies and crimes, Liam did not DEMAND that she throw Tom out of their lives and his job, he just told her how he felt about Tom and what he did to her mother, them and his own son. Hope told Liam it is what she wanted and she meant it. Now she has reneged on that and expects Liam to just "accept" that Tom is OK now.....I call BS on it. Hope put herself in this mess, all by herself, and now she is trying to throw her dirt on Liam and cry to everyone that HE is making her choose....again....BS.


If her career requires long hours he kinda is obstructing her success…Liam will never stop nagging and Hopes falling for tom, he’s such a weirdo a dump for him is good…Liam ain’t ambitious so he don’t understand it


Liam isn't ambitious? Did you see or at least listen to the scene between Liam and Bill? How Bill was praising the job Liam is doing? How he and Wyatt are starting up a new business for SP?

Liam aspires to be like Bill. That's a ton of ambition.

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 9:32AM (352 days ago) @matisse

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Right boy Liam interfering like Hopes a moron is nasty


That is not at all what this clip is showing...not at all.


Sure it’s about him nit wanting Tom on her line..pretty soon he may want to give the kid back to Tom to cut more ties


That is not what he is saying in that clip....he is saying this has nothing to do with her career and everything to do with their marriage. She is trying to pretend this is about him not wanting her to have a career, so she does not have to admit the truth to him and show that SHE is the bad guy that has cheating in her heart. He is also saying that SHE is the one that TOLD him that she wanted Tom out of their lives after his lies and crimes, Liam did not DEMAND that she throw Tom out of their lives and his job, he just told her how he felt about Tom and what he did to her mother, them and his own son. Hope told Liam it is what she wanted and she meant it. Now she has reneged on that and expects Liam to just "accept" that Tom is OK now.....I call BS on it. Hope put herself in this mess, all by herself, and now she is trying to throw her dirt on Liam and cry to everyone that HE is making her choose....again....BS.

Exactly and she is knowingly doing this. That's what's nasty. She ain't even fighting it. Wedding vows matter even if made to a former waffler.

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matisse, 5/25/2023, 7:54AM (352 days ago) @GLFan- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.

Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.

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Judx, 5/25/2023, 8:14AM (352 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.

:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.

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matisse, 5/25/2023, 8:22AM (352 days ago) @Judx

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.

No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL

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Judx, 5/25/2023, 8:31AM (352 days ago) @matisse

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL

When she said, let it go, I thought she was going to say, if Liam can’t accept it then end this marriage.
Yes, please do Liam.

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Barbybo, 5/25/2023, 8:36AM (352 days ago) @Judx- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL


When she said, let it go, I thought she was going to say, if Liam can’t accept it then end this marriage.
Yes, please do Liam.

Liam was a waffel for years now we should pity him jmo heck no

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Judx, 5/25/2023, 8:41AM (352 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL


When she said, let it go, I thought she was going to say, if Liam can’t accept it then end this marriage.
Yes, please do Liam.


Liam was a waffel for years now we should pity him jmo heck no

There have been many posts in this board showing Hope’s actions with Wyatt, and I think also Oliver. But, her actions are never relevant, only Liam’s. Unfortunate.

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 10:10AM (352 days ago) @Judx

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL


When she said, let it go, I thought she was going to say, if Liam can’t accept it then end this marriage.
Yes, please do Liam.


Liam was a waffel for years now we should pity him jmo heck no


There have been many posts in this board showing Hope’s actions with Wyatt, and I think also Oliver. But, her actions are never relevant, only Liam’s. Unfortunate.

Hope pulled this same crap when she was going back and forth between Liam and wyatt. Hftf so important. Must work with wyatt. Liam must put up with it. We've been doing this plot for years and years and years.

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 10:07AM (352 days ago) @Judx

I wish he would. We have had to witness them arguing about Thomas for the last 5 years. I am so tired of it.

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Judx, 5/25/2023, 1:37PM (352 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Yep. I, too, am sick of it over and over and over…it has always been there for years.
Liam, please ruuuuuunnnnnn.

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GLFan, 5/25/2023, 10:21AM (352 days ago) @Judx

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL


When she said, let it go, I thought she was going to say, if Liam can’t accept it then end this marriage.
Yes, please do Liam.

I thought she might say that too. She acted ridiculously in the past when she married Wyatt because Liam was late and when she left Liam to “marry” Thomas for Douglas, so I wouldn’t put it past her.

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Barbybo, 5/25/2023, 8:35AM (352 days ago) @matisse- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL

Eh lopes now ending just keep him from running to steffy leave her be she’s happy maybe he can cry to paris

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matisse, 5/25/2023, 9:01AM (352 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


:cool

She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL


Eh lopes now ending just keep him from running to steffy leave her be she’s happy maybe he can cry to paris

I got news for Sinn fans and Steffy fans that do not want her with Liam....if Lope breaks up, Sinn is toast and Steffy and Liam are going to be together. There is no way that is not happening if Hope blows up her marriage. Poor Finn is either going to not know what hit him, OR he is going to be sent to the Amazon River on some special humanitarian aid crisis, and that will be the end of Finn....we will find out they got divorced because his work was more important than his wife and Hayes....kind of like HFTF and her obsession with Tom is more important to Hope, then her husband and her biological child. Then there will be a health issue and Liam will turn out to be Hayes' daddy after all, and it will be......"Huh? Finn? I was never married to anyone named Finn" LOL

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Joy, 5/25/2023, 9:40AM (352 days ago) @matisse

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.


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She didn’t show any reaction at all when Liam said that Thomas kept Beth from them.


No, she did not....Beth means nothing to her at all. And, when she was crowing her little speech about Tom has changed, and Liam should accept that, and if he cannot then he.....needs to just let it go... I thought she was going to say "....then too bad"....Bell has totally made Hope just another witch with an itch and no regard or feelings about her own child. Instead she is more focused on the man that abused her child and wanted her to be dead forever. I wish Liam would just keep saying that to her every single day when she comes home. "Hey honey, how was your day? Did the man that wanted our child to stay dead forever draw you a couple of new pretty dresses today?" And say it with a smile on his face, in a kind voice. Maybe Liam should get into a pissing match with her to see which one is going to leave first, force her to be the bad guy she has become and to stop trying to make him do it. LOL


Eh lopes now ending just keep him from running to steffy leave her be she’s happy maybe he can cry to paris


I got news for Sinn fans and Steffy fans that do not want her with Liam....if Lope breaks up, Sinn is toast and Steffy and Liam are going to be together. There is no way that is not happening if Hope blows up her marriage. Poor Finn is either going to not know what hit him, OR he is going to be sent to the Amazon River on some special humanitarian aid crisis, and that will be the end of Finn....we will find out they got divorced because his work was more important than his wife and Hayes....kind of like HFTF and her obsession with Tom is more important to Hope, then her husband and her biological child. Then there will be a health issue and Liam will turn out to be Hayes' daddy after all, and it will be......"Huh? Finn? I was never married to anyone named Finn" LOL

I think Finn is just a filler character because everyone was sick of the Steffy/Liam/Hope triangle and needed a break. People were asking for a new man for Steffy and got one for a while. Since Hope has had Liam for a little while, I also think the writers are headed to a Liam/Steffy reunion. I think once Liam leaves Hope, Hope will find out that she had a crush on Thomas instead of loving him and will want Liam back. We will have the dreaded triangle all over again.

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 9:34AM (352 days ago) @matisse

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


Yes, it would be interesting, if only Hope had not been acting like such an idiot the last 2 months, and gaslighting her husband...and that is exactly what she is doing, gaslighting her husband trying to get HIM to be the bad guy, instead of owning that SHE is the bad guy. Does not matter if Tom is not crossing any lines, Hope is crossing all sorts of lines in her head and being a total ass to her mother and her husband and her kid. This clip just showed, she does not care about her husband or her own biological child, she only cares about her other "baby" HFTF and somehow in her immature little head she has conflated HFTF with Tom.

Yep. :rules

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 9:25AM (352 days ago) @GLFan

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.

But it would have to be Steffy and Brooke's insecurities, too, and Thomas id picking up on it. And what about whatever we are privy to in Hope's mind? Hope is being a queen gaslighter.

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GLFan, 5/25/2023, 10:33AM (352 days ago) @Tiqui1999

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


But it would have to be Steffy and Brooke's insecurities, too, and Thomas id picking up on it. And what about whatever we are privy to in Hope's mind? Hope is being a queen gaslighter.

Yes, if this is what Bell is doing it has already (thankfully) put a chink in the BFF relationship and will affect Liam and Steffy’s relationship (not sure exactly how yet). It’ll be interesting to see how Thomas reacts when he finally “gets it”. I do agree with you about the whole thing so far, but I’m starting to question how much farther they are really going to take Thope. I’m just starting to doubt how far Bell will really let Hope’s character go with this.

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 11:00AM (352 days ago) @GLFan

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.


But it would have to be Steffy and Brooke's insecurities, too, and Thomas id picking up on it. And what about whatever we are privy to in Hope's mind? Hope is being a queen gaslighter.


Yes, if this is what Bell is doing it has already (thankfully) put a chink in the BFF relationship and will affect Liam and Steffy’s relationship (not sure exactly how yet). It’ll be interesting to see how Thomas reacts when he finally “gets it”. I do agree with you about the whole thing so far, but I’m starting to question how much farther they are really going to take Thope. I’m just starting to doubt how far Bell will really let Hope’s character go with this.

Yeah, it's probably going to be the same old same old.

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naintednancy, 5/25/2023, 1:12PM (352 days ago) @GLFan

It would be kind of interesting if it turns out that Hope never crosses any lines, Thomas continues to behave himself, and this is more about Liam’s insecurities than it is about Thope. Thomas “making trouble” while not making any trouble at all.

Hope has already crossed thousands of lines as far as I'm concerned... She was crossing lines before she even rehired him...

I love Thope and I hope the writers will go all the way with them, but it doesn't mean I'll defend her decisions...

I just want her to own her feelings and stop blaming Liam, Brooke and everyone for them... If/when she gets caught in Rome, She needs to come clean and free Liam... If he still wants her then ok, but he has a right to make his own decisions based on truthful informations...

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Joy, 5/25/2023, 8:55AM (352 days ago) @moonlightof1982- one person liked this

In real life, I have seen so many people, both men and women, that were so career driven that their marriage fell apart. I worked in an office on second shift in the 90's and I often wondered how some of the professionals at work had a home life at all. They came into the office early (according to first shift) and stayed into late into the evening and sometimes the night. According to people that worked on the weekend shift, these professionals were there on most Saturdays. We joked that they were married to their work and some of them were caught up in affairs. Hope is acting like that kind of person and reminding me of them. I still don't see why one of them, either Thomas or Hope, couldn't work from home and be together only when necessary, with a third party in the room with them. Move Zende in the office with Thomas since they both design for HFTF. Those two could work together on the designs and then both together, run them by Hope for any changes. Why does Hope not work with Zende as much as she is working with Thomas? Hope cannot help the feelings she is feeling, but she can help how she responds to them. One way Hope can respond to them is to admit that she has the feelings and remove herself from the temptation.

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matisse, 5/25/2023, 9:08AM (352 days ago) @Joy

In real life, I have seen so many people, both men and women, that were so career driven that their marriage fell apart. I worked in an office on second shift in the 90's and I often wondered how some of the professionals at work had a home life at all. They came into the office early (according to first shift) and stayed into late into the evening and sometimes the night. According to people that worked on the weekend shift, these professionals were there on most Saturdays. We joked that they were married to their work and some of them were caught up in affairs. Hope is acting like that kind of person and reminding me of them. I still don't see why one of them, either Thomas or Hope, couldn't work from home and be together only when necessary, with a third party in the room with them. Move Zende in the office with Thomas since they both design for HFTF. Those two could work together on the designs and then both together, run them by Hope for any changes. Why does Hope not work with Zende as much as she is working with Thomas? Hope cannot help the feelings she is feeling, but she can help how she responds to them. One way Hope can respond to them is to admit that she has the feelings and remove herself from the temptation.

Steffy could make them have a 3rd party in the room...and she should. She should tell Hope privately that she is going to require it, and that they can tell Tom why, or not, it is up to Hope. BUT, there will be a 3rd person there and Steffy could even tell Hope she wants that person to take extensive notes of all the work that is being done on the line.....that is not unheard of in a creative business. This would force Hope to pooh or get off the pot. If this is really "just about HFTF" then there would be no issue. If it is about her feelings for Tom, then she would have to make arrangements to see Tom outside the office. If Hope does not like it, she can quit FC. The new concept in offices now is loft space and everyone's desk or work area is seen by everyone else. Steffy could even go that route. That way the designers are all in the same area, and can bounce things off each other.

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Joy, 5/25/2023, 9:21AM (352 days ago) @matisse

In real life, I have seen so many people, both men and women, that were so career driven that their marriage fell apart. I worked in an office on second shift in the 90's and I often wondered how some of the professionals at work had a home life at all. They came into the office early (according to first shift) and stayed into late into the evening and sometimes the night. According to people that worked on the weekend shift, these professionals were there on most Saturdays. We joked that they were married to their work and some of them were caught up in affairs. Hope is acting like that kind of person and reminding me of them. I still don't see why one of them, either Thomas or Hope, couldn't work from home and be together only when necessary, with a third party in the room with them. Move Zende in the office with Thomas since they both design for HFTF. Those two could work together on the designs and then both together, run them by Hope for any changes. Why does Hope not work with Zende as much as she is working with Thomas? Hope cannot help the feelings she is feeling, but she can help how she responds to them. One way Hope can respond to them is to admit that she has the feelings and remove herself from the temptation.


Steffy could make them have a 3rd party in the room...and she should. She should tell Hope privately that she is going to require it, and that they can tell Tom why, or not, it is up to Hope. BUT, there will be a 3rd person there and Steffy could even tell Hope she wants that person to take extensive notes of all the work that is being done on the line.....that is not unheard of in a creative business. This would force Hope to pooh or get off the pot. If this is really "just about HFTF" then there would be no issue. If it is about her feelings for Tom, then she would have to make arrangements to see Tom outside the office. If Hope does not like it, she can quit FC. The new concept in offices now is loft space and everyone's desk or work area is seen by everyone else. Steffy could even go that route. That way the designers are all in the same area, and can bounce things off each other.

Yes, Steffy as CEO would have every right to do that, and she should. It would solve the problem of Hope and Thomas working together and I think it would even put Liam's mind at ease.

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 10:05AM (352 days ago) @Joy

In real life, I have seen so many people, both men and women, that were so career driven that their marriage fell apart. I worked in an office on second shift in the 90's and I often wondered how some of the professionals at work had a home life at all. They came into the office early (according to first shift) and stayed into late into the evening and sometimes the night. According to people that worked on the weekend shift, these professionals were there on most Saturdays. We joked that they were married to their work and some of them were caught up in affairs. Hope is acting like that kind of person and reminding me of them. I still don't see why one of them, either Thomas or Hope, couldn't work from home and be together only when necessary, with a third party in the room with them. Move Zende in the office with Thomas since they both design for HFTF. Those two could work together on the designs and then both together, run them by Hope for any changes. Why does Hope not work with Zende as much as she is working with Thomas? Hope cannot help the feelings she is feeling, but she can help how she responds to them. One way Hope can respond to them is to admit that she has the feelings and remove herself from the temptation.


Steffy could make them have a 3rd party in the room...and she should. She should tell Hope privately that she is going to require it, and that they can tell Tom why, or not, it is up to Hope. BUT, there will be a 3rd person there and Steffy could even tell Hope she wants that person to take extensive notes of all the work that is being done on the line.....that is not unheard of in a creative business. This would force Hope to pooh or get off the pot. If this is really "just about HFTF" then there would be no issue. If it is about her feelings for Tom, then she would have to make arrangements to see Tom outside the office. If Hope does not like it, she can quit FC. The new concept in offices now is loft space and everyone's desk or work area is seen by everyone else. Steffy could even go that route. That way the designers are all in the same area, and can bounce things off each other.


Yes, Steffy as CEO would have every right to do that, and she should. It would solve the problem of Hope and Thomas working together and I think it would even put Liam's mind at ease.

Forced or just needs to find something else. It's time for a new line. They can't tell me that after how successful at jewelry line was and how successful Brooks bedroom was, that they can't come up with something else. It's time to come up with something else. Hopefully the future is worn out. At least in this viewer's mind for this viewer's purposes.

I'm sick of h FTF.

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JX @, 5/25/2023, 7:21PM (351 days ago) @matisse

That is crazy:lol :lol

Steffy was the fool who gave Hope the ultimatum in the first place:lol

Steffy and Liam - well history shows they need the supervisor :lol

I can’t believe people think THOPE need supervision :rofl

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 10:03AM (352 days ago) @Joy

Correct. But instead of putting distance between her and Thomas for the sake of her marriage and family, hope is now arguing with her husband about why she must spend time with the man she's actively having feelings for. That is ridiculous. Hope is being re-damn-diculous.

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Tiqui1999 @, 5/25/2023, 9:23AM (352 days ago) @moonlightof1982

Na. I'm done with Hope if that's her view of it. Did Liam e er tell her to let it go about Steffy? Seems to me, Hope would be understanding of she went thru this with him and Steffy but no...she uses it as an excuse.

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TeamSheila2.0, 5/25/2023, 11:05AM (352 days ago) @moonlightof1982

A clip of Hope and Liam arguing about Thomas!

WOW, this is getting uglies by the day for these 2. The way Hope defends Thomas, if Liam can't see the real issue behind it... :roll

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KKLBAB12, 5/25/2023, 11:32AM (352 days ago) @TeamSheila2.0

Hope is a professional WHAT?

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pbfan123, 5/25/2023, 12:39PM (352 days ago) @moonlightof1982

hope is so done with liam whining about thomas

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takerkid @, 5/25/2023, 2:47PM (352 days ago) @moonlightof1982

Tomorrow is gonna be good! That said Hope defending Thomas with her whole being is quite the sight.

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hopeyougogirl, 5/25/2023, 4:16PM (351 days ago) @moonlightof1982

A clip of Hope and Liam arguing about Thomas!

The acting here is far better than boring Thope scenes of creepy praising each other and obsessing over HFTF. IMO.

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hopeyougogirl, 5/25/2023, 4:21PM (351 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

A clip of Hope and Liam arguing about Thomas!


The acting here is far better than boring Thope scenes of creepy praising each other and obsessing over HFTF. IMO.

And there's nothing wrong with being a professional..but there comes a time to realize that obsessing over your professional baby to a point of developing "feelings" for a monster turned savior..it's UNHEALTHY. If she refuses to have a good work/home life balance, then she will have to accept losing her marriage/family. Liam should walk away and that will be the wake up call she needs.

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Hit-Girl, 5/25/2023, 6:06PM (351 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

A clip of Hope and Liam arguing about Thomas!


The acting here is far better than boring Thope scenes of creepy praising each other and obsessing over HFTF. IMO.


And there's nothing wrong with being a professional..but there comes a time to realize that obsessing over your professional baby to a point of developing "feelings" for a monster turned savior..it's UNHEALTHY. If she refuses to have a good work/home life balance, then she will have to accept losing her marriage/family. Liam should walk away and that will be the wake up call she needs.

Thing is, a major part of THOPE scenes are very little to do with her professional baby! She isn't thinking about Hftf when they hold hands and she loses herself into his beautiful eyes! Hope just loves spending time with Thomas, confiding intimate things in him! She loves his touch! She is more relaxed, open and honest with him than she is with Liam! Her heart is talking!
And Liam will be fine with or without Hope, I wouldn't worry about him too much! He will bounce back like he always does! Bet next year at this time, he will be handing Hope a glass of champagne at THOPE's wedding! :-D

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A clip of Hope and Liam arguing about Thomas!


The acting here is far better than boring Thope scenes of creepy praising each other and obsessing over HFTF. IMO.


And there's nothing wrong with being a professional..but there comes a time to realize that obsessing over your professional baby to a point of developing "feelings" for a monster turned savior..it's UNHEALTHY. If she refuses to have a good work/home life balance, then she will have to accept losing her marriage/family. Liam should walk away and that will be the wake up call she needs.


Thing is, a major part of THOPE scenes are very little to do with her professional baby! She isn't thinking about Hftf when they hold hands and she loses herself into his beautiful eyes! Hope just loves spending time with Thomas, confiding intimate things in him! She loves his touch! She is more relaxed, open and honest with him than she is with Liam! Her heart is talking!
And Liam will be fine with or without Hope, I wouldn't worry about him too much! He will bounce back like he always does! Bet next year at this time, he will be handing Hope a glass of champagne at THOPE's wedding! :-D

It has everything to do with her professional baby! When her line was doing fine, it was Thomas who? LOL. NO fatasizing whatsoever! It wasn't until her line was in trouble and the only savior Thomas that came back to save her professional baby..only then that she suddenly started her creepy thoughts about him.

And by next year this time, Bell will pretend Hope's creepy thoughts of Thomas never happened just like Hott never happened. Given this show is all plot driven. It'll be Thope who? Just like Hott who? :rules

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