So many possible scenarios (General)

Viola, 5/16/2023, 6:10PM (356 days ago)

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?

So many possible scenarios

matisse, 5/16/2023, 6:23PM (356 days ago) @Viola

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?

I think we are going to get #1 in Italy. I think the part Liam won't see in Italy is #2. Then I think Hope will be angry that Liam won't listen to her, right after he promised that nothing would ever change his love for her, then #3 will happen. I also think she will find out she is pregnant by Liam after he leaves her and she and Tom are starting to connect, so that is #4. I don't think they will do a paternity test, but maybe, just to knock her off her sanctimonious high horse about being nothing like her mother or Steffy. I read today at a video spoiler site, that Hope is medically sick and it is causing this situation....so maybe #6 too. I think they might do all the scenarios you mention. But, the scenario I do not think is going to happen is Thope, for longer than a few months.

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So many possible scenarios

Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 6:24PM (356 days ago) @Viola

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?

I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

So many possible scenarios

matisse, 5/16/2023, 6:27PM (356 days ago) @Drangonfly
edited by matisse, 5/16/2023, 6:32PM

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.

Now it would be really soapy and devious and really have fooled all of us if, Tom has been giving her some sort of drug, and he is all in on trying to get her to think she is in love with him, and to leave Liam. That Tom has not changed at all, he just upped his game and Bell has written it so not even the audience knew. LOL. She always has that bottle of water around, and she comes and goes in the office, it would be plausible. I remember when Pierce hypnotized Taylor and then she had sexual feelings for him, I think his assistant did something to her to make that happen.

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So many possible scenarios

Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 6:37PM (356 days ago) @matisse

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.


Now it would be really soapy and devious and really have fooled all of us if, Tom has been giving her some sort of drug, and he is all in on trying to get her to think she is in love with him, and to leave Liam. That Tom has not changed at all, he just upped his game and Bell has written it so not even the audience knew. LOL. She always has that bottle of water around, and she comes and goes in the office, it would be plausible. I remember when Pierce hypnotized Taylor and then she had sexual feelings for him, I think his assistant did something to her to make that happen.

I vote for this!

What's with the water bottle dropping? It's the second time that's happened.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

So many possible scenarios

hopeyougogirl, 5/16/2023, 6:44PM (356 days ago) @matisse

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.


Now it would be really soapy and devious and really have fooled all of us if, Tom has been giving her some sort of drug, and he is all in on trying to get her to think she is in love with him, and to leave Liam. That Tom has not changed at all, he just upped his game and Bell has written it so not even the audience knew. LOL. She always has that bottle of water around, and she comes and goes in the office, it would be plausible. I remember when Pierce hypnotized Taylor and then she had sexual feelings for him, I think his assistant did something to her to make that happen.

He drugged Liam into sexy time with Steffy, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's been drugging Hope. It would be a huge twist for sure. LOL.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

So many possible scenarios

GLFan, 5/16/2023, 7:38PM (356 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.


Now it would be really soapy and devious and really have fooled all of us if, Tom has been giving her some sort of drug, and he is all in on trying to get her to think she is in love with him, and to leave Liam. That Tom has not changed at all, he just upped his game and Bell has written it so not even the audience knew. LOL. She always has that bottle of water around, and she comes and goes in the office, it would be plausible. I remember when Pierce hypnotized Taylor and then she had sexual feelings for him, I think his assistant did something to her to make that happen.


He drugged Liam into sexy time with Steffy, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's been drugging Hope. It would be a huge twist for sure. LOL.

:lol His drug supplier is dead.

So many possible scenarios

Barbybo, 5/16/2023, 6:28PM (356 days ago) @Drangonfly

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.

Whatever’s in the pen ….I don’t see mental problems I see a gal who’s fallen for tom….she doesn’t have stress except for Liam nagging her and Tom are on a success high

So many possible scenarios

GLFan, 5/16/2023, 7:39PM (356 days ago) @Barbybo

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.

Whatever’s in the pen ….I don’t see mental problems I see a gal who’s fallen for tom….she doesn’t have stress except for Liam nagging her and Tom are on a success high

Yep. Dropping the water bottle = being around the boy she likes makes her nervous, like a high school girl.

So many possible scenarios

hopeyougogirl, 5/16/2023, 6:38PM (356 days ago) @Drangonfly

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.

Yep..it's clear to me that she's lost the CORE of who she is.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

So many possible scenarios

Barbybo, 5/17/2023, 8:18AM (355 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


I think it's an identity crisis. Brought on by stress.


Yep..it's clear to me that she's lost the CORE of who she is.

What she is a gal got knocked up by a married guy …..and actualy married Liam’s brother on a whim…she’s no saint

So many possible scenarios

rain4 @, 5/16/2023, 8:06PM (355 days ago) @Drangonfly

Sorry but "stress" cannot cause any of these actions. Stressed about what? Her life was perfect 3 months ago, she has brought all these issues on herself. I want Lope to be done. Every day it becomes more and more obvious they need to end things. They are my 2 fav characters but it has become a nightmare to watch them together. They have grown apart too much, it's not sustainable

I don't even get how some people see it as Lope's angst. What angst? Nobody is making Hope having these thoughts. As much as I hate to say it, Steffy and Thomas aren't scheming, lying or keeping any informations from them. I still don't like them, but they aren't doing anything. The only responsible for this mess is Hope. She needs to come clean and set Liam free. He deserves better and she deserves better as well. This storyline is unfair to both. I am still rooting for Liam and Hope, but no longer for Lope.

So many possible scenarios

hopeyougogirl, 5/16/2023, 10:26PM (355 days ago) @rain4

Sorry but "stress" cannot cause any of these actions. Stressed about what? Her life was perfect 3 months ago, she has brought all these issues on herself. I want Lope to be done. Every day it becomes more and more obvious they need to end things. They are my 2 fav characters but it has become a nightmare to watch them together. They have grown apart too much, it's not sustainable

I don't even get how some people see it as Lope's angst. What angst? Nobody is making Hope having these thoughts. As much as I hate to say it, Steffy and Thomas aren't scheming, lying or keeping any informations from them. I still don't like them, but they aren't doing anything. The only responsible for this mess is Hope. She needs to come clean and set Liam free. He deserves better and she deserves better as well. This storyline is unfair to both. I am still rooting for Liam and Hope, but no longer for Lope.

Stress about her line in trouble. Let's not forget Steffy blindsided Hope with her "unreasonable" ultimatum..either Thomas coming back or the line is paused/gone..how was that not stress for her given that HFTF is her professional baby for many years. Smh.

Lope is a long established romantic couple..they are the endgame couple no different than Bridge. So anyone that came between them or being inserted by the writers..IS an angst. Thomas is a Lope angst no different than Steffy/Wyatt. I'm still not convinced Bell will actually "go there", but even if it happens, Thope will only be temporary. Hope and Liam will always find ways back to each other..no different than Brooke and Ridge IMO.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Drangonfly @, 5/17/2023, 11:13AM (355 days ago) @rain4
edited by Drangonfly, 5/17/2023, 11:39AM

Sorry but "stress" cannot cause any of these actions. Stressed about what? Her life was perfect 3 months ago, she has brought all these issues on herself. I want Lope to be done. Every day it becomes more and more obvious they need to end things. They are my 2 fav characters but it has become a nightmare to watch them together. They have grown apart too much, it's not sustainable

I don't even get how some people see it as Lope's angst. What angst? Nobody is making Hope having these thoughts. As much as I hate to say it, Steffy and Thomas aren't scheming, lying or keeping any informations from them. I still don't like them, but they aren't doing anything. The only responsible for this mess is Hope. She needs to come clean and set Liam free. He deserves better and she deserves better as well. This storyline is unfair to both. I am still rooting for Liam and Hope, but no longer for Lope.

Hope should set Liam free when this story is just getting started? Seems to me that Hope is still trying to figure out what's going on. She hasn't even done anything wrong. She hasn't cheated on Liam. A marriage should end over someone's thoughts? I gotta disagree with that.

Hope has been under tons of stress. Steffy giving her the ultimatum to hire Thomas back or lose her line. Liam not being okay with it. Brooke putting the "bad boy" idea in her head. Steffy throwing the "You think Thomas is hot" thing in her face. And the "I'm not like my mother" thing comes up every episode now. That can't be ignored, IMO. I think it's going to factor into whatever is going on with Hope.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

So many possible scenarios

hopeyougogirl, 5/17/2023, 1:27PM (355 days ago) @Drangonfly

Sorry but "stress" cannot cause any of these actions. Stressed about what? Her life was perfect 3 months ago, she has brought all these issues on herself. I want Lope to be done. Every day it becomes more and more obvious they need to end things. They are my 2 fav characters but it has become a nightmare to watch them together. They have grown apart too much, it's not sustainable

I don't even get how some people see it as Lope's angst. What angst? Nobody is making Hope having these thoughts. As much as I hate to say it, Steffy and Thomas aren't scheming, lying or keeping any informations from them. I still don't like them, but they aren't doing anything. The only responsible for this mess is Hope. She needs to come clean and set Liam free. He deserves better and she deserves better as well. This storyline is unfair to both. I am still rooting for Liam and Hope, but no longer for Lope.


Hope should set Liam free when this story is just getting started? Seems to me that Hope is still trying to figure out what's going on. She hasn't even done anything wrong. She hasn't cheated on Liam. A marriage should end over someone's thoughts? I gotta disagree with that.

Hope has been under tons of stress. Steffy giving her the ultimatum to hire Thomas back or lose her line. Liam not being okay with it. Brooke putting the "bad boy" idea in her head. Steffy throwing the "You think Thomas is hot" thing in her face. And the "I'm not like my mother" thing comes up every episode now. That can't be ignored, IMO. I think it's going to factor into whatever is going on with Hope.

Many characters are now constantly bringing up Hope is or isn't like her mother blah blah....it's not subtle by the show's repeated dialogue by all these characters. The show is doing this for a reason.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

So many possible scenarios

Torval, 5/16/2023, 6:29PM (356 days ago) @Viola

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?

1) Would have been more realistic if Thomas and Hope kissed weeks ago, in a moment of weakness, because of some misunderstanding between her and Liam. The fact that Thomas hasn't kissed her yet despite the temptation tells me this story will be more complex than a simple "mistake kiss" that can never happen again (done again and again on this soap).
2) is possible, but then what? Where is the drama once he rejects her? Thomas is redeemed and moved on, and Hope is humiliated in the worst possible way and loses everything? I doubt it.
3) Would be OOC for Liam. I could be wrong, but I don't think Liam will hate Thomas anymore once he knows the truth. He may (should) never forgive him for some of his manipulations, but I can't see him throwing accusations at Thomas about Hope forever if he knows about Hope's feelings. Anyway, he has no ground to take Beth. The only person on his side would be Bill. Who else would support him?
4) is possible. I would be ok with this one but I doubt it about the baby...
5) Definitely no. These SL are for Steffy. I am all for a Thomas-Hope-Liam triangle, but no WTD. Frankly, I don't think Hope is having a baby anytime soon. She already has a child with both guys, this is unlikely she gets a 2nd child with one of them
6) Not if it means Lope happy in the backburner again for the next couple of years. And no because it doesn't make sense... If Hope was talking to a Thomas mannequin, hearing voices and seeing ghosts of Thomas, I would see the tumor or illness as a possibility, but it's not what's happening.

Why can't they have real angst? Even if I like the couple, I don't see anything catastrophic if they get a divorce and they both move on for a while. And I don't mind if Hope is truly torn between the 2 guys and bounces back and forth at least once. Bridge is the ultimate supercouple of B&B yet they were away from each other for years more than once (between 1992 and 1994, between 1998 and 2002, between 2012 and 2017). Even if Lope are endgame, they shouldn't be together indefinitely. I would like Lope to have a long adult, honest, rational talk and realize they need a break. And they try again in 1 year or 2.

So many possible scenarios

theduchess, 5/16/2023, 6:34PM (356 days ago) @Viola

i think they will do any of the 5 or something else (not 6), what i don't think it is is anything mental - no split personalities or anything like that, hope has feelings for thomas, it's a matter of when (not if) liam will find out, and then what happens in the aftermath is anyone's guess

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Fickledseptum @, 5/16/2023, 6:58PM (356 days ago) @Viola

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?

The one thing I don't want to see is Hope sleeping with Thomas and trying to cover it up (paternity test or not). Been there, done that with Brooke, Steffy, Bridget, Margot, Amber. We just had 2 similar stories in a short time with Steffy.
The other thing is I hope they don't make Thomas obsessed or manipulative again, especially if they are really going there with Thope. I can't overlook some of the things he did, but I always liked him more than Steffy, Ridge and Taylor. He is way more likable the way he is now. Never thought MA should have played a villain. I don't mind Hope being in love with him if he is sane, healthy and treats her well (his past will always be a problem, but the present is more important).

I am with Torval regarding the back burner argument. This is exactly what's gonna happen if Lope kiss and make up in the end. I will be disappointed if all this drama leads to 2 months of separation and then Lope living HEA in the backburner. Even the best supercouples should take breaks and explore other things. SC said what he learns will change everything. AN said this stroyline is about Hope realizing she is flawed and human. I prefer to watch Hope making mistakes and waffling than no Hope at all and the dreadful BRT triangle and Sheila/Sinn hogging my screen until Lope's next big story in 2025. But it's just me...

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matisse, 5/17/2023, 8:10AM (355 days ago) @Fickledseptum

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


The one thing I don't want to see is Hope sleeping with Thomas and trying to cover it up (paternity test or not). Been there, done that with Brooke, Steffy, Bridget, Margot, Amber. We just had 2 similar stories in a short time with Steffy.
The other thing is I hope they don't make Thomas obsessed or manipulative again, especially if they are really going there with Thope. I can't overlook some of the things he did, but I always liked him more than Steffy, Ridge and Taylor. He is way more likable the way he is now. Never thought MA should have played a villain. I don't mind Hope being in love with him if he is sane, healthy and treats her well (his past will always be a problem, but the present is more important).

I am with Torval regarding the back burner argument. This is exactly what's gonna happen if Lope kiss and make up in the end. I will be disappointed if all this drama leads to 2 months of separation and then Lope living HEA in the backburner. Even the best supercouples should take breaks and explore other things. SC said what he learns will change everything. AN said this stroyline is about Hope realizing she is flawed and human. I prefer to watch Hope making mistakes and waffling than no Hope at all and the dreadful BRT triangle and Sheila/Sinn hogging my screen until Lope's next big story in 2025. But it's just me...

I don't think the issue is Hope cheating or not, I think the issue is how gross and disgusting and wrong it would be to cheat with the man that wanted her child to be dead, and stay dead. At least it is for me. I think Bell made a huge mistake to pick Tom as the one Hope gets horny for, they could have done Wyatt and the backlash would be less. IF Bell lets these 2 couple up even for a few days, then what that means for some of us viewers is, Hope is a very very bad and selfish mother. Something no other woman on this show has been. Brooke, Taylor, Steffy, Stephanie, etc. all cheated and did bad things, but never did they take up with a man that wanted their child to stay dead, and hid the baby that they believe did die. Tom doing that puts him in the same wheelhouse as Reese, Morgan, Sheila and others who are thought of as total pieces of scum. If Hope were to allow this to happen, it would be as bad as if she went up to Beth and spit on her. IMHO

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Drangonfly @, 5/17/2023, 11:06AM (355 days ago) @Fickledseptum

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


The one thing I don't want to see is Hope sleeping with Thomas and trying to cover it up (paternity test or not). Been there, done that with Brooke, Steffy, Bridget, Margot, Amber. We just had 2 similar stories in a short time with Steffy.
The other thing is I hope they don't make Thomas obsessed or manipulative again, especially if they are really going there with Thope. I can't overlook some of the things he did, but I always liked him more than Steffy, Ridge and Taylor. He is way more likable the way he is now. Never thought MA should have played a villain. I don't mind Hope being in love with him if he is sane, healthy and treats her well (his past will always be a problem, but the present is more important).

I am with Torval regarding the back burner argument. This is exactly what's gonna happen if Lope kiss and make up in the end. I will be disappointed if all this drama leads to 2 months of separation and then Lope living HEA in the backburner. Even the best supercouples should take breaks and explore other things. SC said what he learns will change everything. AN said this stroyline is about Hope realizing she is flawed and human. I prefer to watch Hope making mistakes and waffling than no Hope at all and the dreadful BRT triangle and Sheila/Sinn hogging my screen until Lope's next big story in 2025. But it's just me...

Lope reuniting doesn't mean they automatically get backburnered. They did last time because, once their big story ended, Sheila took over the show. Bell could come up with another story for them at any time.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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So many possible scenarios

lynnsmom, 5/17/2023, 11:18AM (355 days ago) @Drangonfly

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


The one thing I don't want to see is Hope sleeping with Thomas and trying to cover it up (paternity test or not). Been there, done that with Brooke, Steffy, Bridget, Margot, Amber. We just had 2 similar stories in a short time with Steffy.
The other thing is I hope they don't make Thomas obsessed or manipulative again, especially if they are really going there with Thope. I can't overlook some of the things he did, but I always liked him more than Steffy, Ridge and Taylor. He is way more likable the way he is now. Never thought MA should have played a villain. I don't mind Hope being in love with him if he is sane, healthy and treats her well (his past will always be a problem, but the present is more important).

I am with Torval regarding the back burner argument. This is exactly what's gonna happen if Lope kiss and make up in the end. I will be disappointed if all this drama leads to 2 months of separation and then Lope living HEA in the backburner. Even the best supercouples should take breaks and explore other things. SC said what he learns will change everything. AN said this stroyline is about Hope realizing she is flawed and human. I prefer to watch Hope making mistakes and waffling than no Hope at all and the dreadful BRT triangle and Sheila/Sinn hogging my screen until Lope's next big story in 2025. But it's just me...


Lope reuniting doesn't mean they automatically get backburnered. They did last time because, once their big story ended, Sheila took over the show. Bell could come up with another story for them at any time.

It is kind of cyclical for all characters. Leffy haven't had much other than yapping about Hope, Hope, Hope, or Hope and Thomas, Hope and Thomas, Hope and Thomas. They aren't exactly setting the screen on fire...:lol

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So many possible scenarios

Drangonfly @, 5/17/2023, 11:40AM (355 days ago) @lynnsmom

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


The one thing I don't want to see is Hope sleeping with Thomas and trying to cover it up (paternity test or not). Been there, done that with Brooke, Steffy, Bridget, Margot, Amber. We just had 2 similar stories in a short time with Steffy.
The other thing is I hope they don't make Thomas obsessed or manipulative again, especially if they are really going there with Thope. I can't overlook some of the things he did, but I always liked him more than Steffy, Ridge and Taylor. He is way more likable the way he is now. Never thought MA should have played a villain. I don't mind Hope being in love with him if he is sane, healthy and treats her well (his past will always be a problem, but the present is more important).

I am with Torval regarding the back burner argument. This is exactly what's gonna happen if Lope kiss and make up in the end. I will be disappointed if all this drama leads to 2 months of separation and then Lope living HEA in the backburner. Even the best supercouples should take breaks and explore other things. SC said what he learns will change everything. AN said this stroyline is about Hope realizing she is flawed and human. I prefer to watch Hope making mistakes and waffling than no Hope at all and the dreadful BRT triangle and Sheila/Sinn hogging my screen until Lope's next big story in 2025. But it's just me...


Lope reuniting doesn't mean they automatically get backburnered. They did last time because, once their big story ended, Sheila took over the show. Bell could come up with another story for them at any time.


It is kind of cyclical for all characters. Leffy haven't had much other than yapping about Hope, Hope, Hope, or Hope and Thomas, Hope and Thomas, Hope and Thomas. They aren't exactly setting the screen on fire...:lol

Exactly. Their story right now is to make out and to talk about Hope and Liam.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

So many possible scenarios

hopeyougogirl, 5/17/2023, 1:42PM (355 days ago) @Fickledseptum

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


The one thing I don't want to see is Hope sleeping with Thomas and trying to cover it up (paternity test or not). Been there, done that with Brooke, Steffy, Bridget, Margot, Amber. We just had 2 similar stories in a short time with Steffy.
The other thing is I hope they don't make Thomas obsessed or manipulative again, especially if they are really going there with Thope. I can't overlook some of the things he did, but I always liked him more than Steffy, Ridge and Taylor. He is way more likable the way he is now. Never thought MA should have played a villain. I don't mind Hope being in love with him if he is sane, healthy and treats her well (his past will always be a problem, but the present is more important).

I am with Torval regarding the back burner argument. This is exactly what's gonna happen if Lope kiss and make up in the end. I will be disappointed if all this drama leads to 2 months of separation and then Lope living HEA in the backburner. Even the best supercouples should take breaks and explore other things. SC said what he learns will change everything. AN said this stroyline is about Hope realizing she is flawed and human. I prefer to watch Hope making mistakes and waffling than no Hope at all and the dreadful BRT triangle and Sheila/Sinn hogging my screen until Lope's next big story in 2025. But it's just me...

Even IF Lope breaks up and Thope hook up..this trio ain't gonna remain front and center for years and years. As much as I love Hope, it's not reasonable to believe she will be front and center for many years. That's not how this show works. Regardless how this trio ends, once this major story is over..it's over. Especially since Bell already said that after Rome, he's focusing on RJ and the next gen. I don't think Hope will be backburnered given that RJ is her brother.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

So many possible scenarios

GracieGirl, 5/16/2023, 7:02PM (356 days ago) @Viola

Another possible idea

Thomas paid the fashion critic to write negatively about HFTF which caused sales to drop. Tom was desperate to get back to Forrester. Hope overhears the conversation and in confronting Thomas she acknowledges she thought she was falling in love with him and she will never forgive him not ever. Liam hears the whole thing.

So many possible scenarios

BabyKelly, 5/16/2023, 7:15PM (356 days ago) @Viola

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?

7. Liam reminds her of her promise to never forgive and forget what Thomas did, and points out that she broke that promise in every possible way since 2019. He tells her it took everything in him to accept that she is friend and co-worker with Thomas after all his crimes against him, but that he will never accept that she had the hots for him for months and didn't inform him. He tells her in the most polite, calm way that they will remain friends but their marriage is over. He tells Thomas that he can have Hope if he wants, and decides to be a single father for a while. I would like him and Wyatt to take over SP and have a great business SL, then he gets his own love interest like Steffy did.

So many possible scenarios

Barbybo, 5/17/2023, 8:20AM (355 days ago) @BabyKelly- one person liked this

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


7. Liam reminds her of her promise to never forgive and forget what Thomas did, and points out that she broke that promise in every possible way since 2019. He tells her it took everything in him to accept that she is friend and co-worker with Thomas after all his crimes against him, but that he will never accept that she had the hots for him for months and didn't inform him. He tells her in the most polite, calm way that they will remain friends but their marriage is over. He tells Thomas that he can have Hope if he wants, and decides to be a single father for a while. I would like him and Wyatt to take over SP and have a great business SL, then he gets his own love interest like Steffy did.

Liam treated Hope and steff interchangeable for years he’s a cad I hope he gets dumped he deserves dump

So many possible scenarios

Viola, 5/17/2023, 9:13AM (355 days ago) @BabyKelly

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


7. Liam reminds her of her promise to never forgive and forget what Thomas did, and points out that she broke that promise in every possible way since 2019. He tells her it took everything in him to accept that she is friend and co-worker with Thomas after all his crimes against him, but that he will never accept that she had the hots for him for months and didn't inform him. He tells her in the most polite, calm way that they will remain friends but their marriage is over. He tells Thomas that he can have Hope if he wants, and decides to be a single father for a while. I would like him and Wyatt to take over SP and have a great business SL, then he gets his own love interest like Steffy did.

I saw a disappointed Liam many times before. "We can be friends" speech is not going to happen :lol

So many possible scenarios

Chapchick @, 5/16/2023, 7:43PM (356 days ago) @Viola

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?

Well, SC said the reveal will change everything forever for Liam. They're doing this reveal in a location shoot so it should have even more impact than when he found out about Steffy-Bill. I think 3. without the Beth part should be explored. He may forgive Hope, but can they still be happy together if her feelings for Tom are as deep as it seems?

So many possible scenarios

Viola, 5/17/2023, 9:14AM (355 days ago) @Chapchick

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


Well, SC said the reveal will change everything forever for Liam. They're doing this reveal in a location shoot so it should have even more impact than when he found out about Steffy-Bill. I think 3. without the Beth part should be explored. He may forgive Hope, but can they still be happy together if her feelings for Tom are as deep as it seems?

If this will have more impact than Steffy having sex with Liams dad it will be hilarious.

So many possible scenarios

Barbybo, 5/17/2023, 5:51PM (355 days ago) @Viola

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


Well, SC said the reveal will change everything forever for Liam. They're doing this reveal in a location shoot so it should have even more impact than when he found out about Steffy-Bill. I think 3. without the Beth part should be explored. He may forgive Hope, but can they still be happy together if her feelings for Tom are as deep as it seems?


If this will have more impact than Steffy having sex with Liams dad it will be hilarious.

Liam deserves to be dumped waffels deserve to get burnt he played two for years he’s due payback

So many possible scenarios

q, 5/18/2023, 2:14PM (354 days ago) @Barbybo

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


Well, SC said the reveal will change everything forever for Liam. They're doing this reveal in a location shoot so it should have even more impact than when he found out about Steffy-Bill. I think 3. without the Beth part should be explored. He may forgive Hope, but can they still be happy together if her feelings for Tom are as deep as it seems?


If this will have more impact than Steffy having sex with Liams dad it will be hilarious.


Liam deserves to be dumped waffels deserve to get burnt he played two for years he’s due payback

No he doesn't. Should Finn dump Steffy for things she did just recently and in the past?
Liam was forgiven, they moved on and he hasn't waffled in a very long time. Steffy has with Liam when with Finn.

So many possible scenarios

Barbybo, 5/17/2023, 5:48PM (355 days ago) @Chapchick

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


Well, SC said the reveal will change everything forever for Liam. They're doing this reveal in a location shoot so it should have even more impact than when he found out about Steffy-Bill. I think 3. without the Beth part should be explored. He may forgive Hope, but can they still be happy together if her feelings for Tom are as deep as it seems?

I hope Liam catches them in a kiss less cloths like steffy found Liam and Hope in changing room…..payback Liam how’s it feel

So many possible scenarios

q, 5/18/2023, 2:15PM (354 days ago) @Barbybo

1. Hope and Thomas will eventually kiss and she will realize hat she doesn't want him during that kiss, but Liam will see it and it will be too late.
2. Hope will try to kiss Thomas, but he will reject her...
3. Hope and Thomas being a relationship and Liam wants to take Beth away.
4. Liam will find out that Hope has the hots for Thomas, he dumps her and is not able to forgive her. Hope fights for him, but he rejects her, but since they had a lot of sex shortly before Hope finds out that she's pregnant and the happiness of creating new life bonds them.
5. Paternity test SL again.
6. Hope has a brain tumor.
And so many other possibilities.


What do you guys think the writers are going to do with this SL?


Well, SC said the reveal will change everything forever for Liam. They're doing this reveal in a location shoot so it should have even more impact than when he found out about Steffy-Bill. I think 3. without the Beth part should be explored. He may forgive Hope, but can they still be happy together if her feelings for Tom are as deep as it seems?


I hope Liam catches them in a kiss less cloths like steffy found Liam and Hope in changing room…..payback Liam how’s it feel

Not as bad as when Liam found out his wife banged his dad.

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