Why drag steffy into this Hope drama? (General)

Barbybo, 5/16/2023, 11:34AM (358 days ago)- one person liked this

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/16/2023, 12:08PM (358 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

Steffy dragged herself into this drama...by deciding that Hope had to accept Tom back as her designer, no matter what.
She practically forced Hope to either take Tom back or lose her line. And now she is watching her like a hawk and always telling her not to dare derail her poor little brother.
Steffy feels totally at home in this drama situation.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 12:10PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54

Steffy dragged herself into this drama...by deciding that Hope had to accept Tom back as her designer, no matter what.
She practically forced Hope to either take Tom back or lose her line. And now she is watching her like a hawk and always telling her not to dare derail her poor little brother.
Steffy feels totally at home in this drama situation.

Exactly! To me, Steffy has ulterior motives. She really wants Hope to go to Thomas so she can maybe "win" her Liam sweet husband back! :rofl

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/16/2023, 12:15PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 1:34PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

And she is seriously lying right now to Finn! But I will also note the creepy music played today with Hope and Thomas. That is NOT romantic music!

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 1:44PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


And she is seriously lying right now to Finn! But I will also note the creepy music played today with Hope and Thomas. That is NOT romantic music!

Right? This story is dark. Doesn't feel like a romantic story at all. Or even a cheating kind of story. Something is going on with Hope.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 1:48PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


And she is seriously lying right now to Finn! But I will also note the creepy music played today with Hope and Thomas. That is NOT romantic music!


Right? This story is dark. Doesn't feel like a romantic story at all. Or even a cheating kind of story. Something is going on with Hope.

Not sure if you saw it, but AN pretty much called Thomas the "wrong man" in an interview in Italy. I think something will be misunderstood that happens. I don't see some great love happening.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 2:30PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


And she is seriously lying right now to Finn! But I will also note the creepy music played today with Hope and Thomas. That is NOT romantic music!


Right? This story is dark. Doesn't feel like a romantic story at all. Or even a cheating kind of story. Something is going on with Hope.


Not sure if you saw it, but AN pretty much called Thomas the "wrong man" in an interview in Italy. I think something will be misunderstood that happens. I don't see some great love happening.

I didn't see that. Was it on Twitter?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 2:30PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


And she is seriously lying right now to Finn! But I will also note the creepy music played today with Hope and Thomas. That is NOT romantic music!


Right? This story is dark. Doesn't feel like a romantic story at all. Or even a cheating kind of story. Something is going on with Hope.


Not sure if you saw it, but AN pretty much called Thomas the "wrong man" in an interview in Italy. I think something will be misunderstood that happens. I don't see some great love happening.


I didn't see that. Was it on Twitter?

Yes.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/16/2023, 1:53PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

Most of the time Hope is in a panic...a romantic love story would certainly look differently.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 2:32PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54

Most of the time Hope is in a panic...a romantic love story would certainly look differently.

That's exactly what I see. She's having thoughts that she doesn't want to be having. That's it. I don't see her sneaking around and trying to be with Thomas. She's not even fantasizing about sleeping with him. She's just having feelings she can't control and it's stressing her out.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Bhamgirl, 5/16/2023, 2:01PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 2:03PM (358 days ago) @Bhamgirl- 2 people liked this

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

Why would Hope be blamed if Thomas gets "derailed"? If Thomas is so fragile, he shouldn't be working with Hope, and it is Steffy who forced it.

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Barbybo, 5/16/2023, 4:00PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


Why would Hope be blamed if Thomas gets "derailed"? If Thomas is so fragile, he shouldn't be working with Hope, and it is Steffy who forced it.

All Hope had to do is quit…someone would hire her

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

q, 5/16/2023, 5:45PM (358 days ago) @Barbybo

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


Why would Hope be blamed if Thomas gets "derailed"? If Thomas is so fragile, he shouldn't be working with Hope, and it is Steffy who forced it.


All Hope had to do is quit…someone would hire her

Why should Hope quit? Thomas should not have been hired back to work with Hope if he is still sick and fragile. It's Hope's line not Thomas's.

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Barbybo, 5/17/2023, 8:27AM (357 days ago) @q

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


Why would Hope be blamed if Thomas gets "derailed"? If Thomas is so fragile, he shouldn't be working with Hope, and it is Steffy who forced it.


All Hope had to do is quit…someone would hire her


Why should Hope quit? Thomas should not have been hired back to work with Hope if he is still sick and fragile. It's Hope's line not Thomas's.

Liam would love her to quit but she seems to put a job ahead of his angst….Tom designs no designs no line and Hopes sooo thrilled with success she glows but then goes home Liam starts up hissie again talking about Tom, Hopes not a forrester but maybe she will be ….

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GLFan, 5/16/2023, 2:11PM (358 days ago) @Bhamgirl

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

Exactly. Steffy has zero romantic interest in Liam at this time, she has nothing to do with Hope wanting Thomas, and she didn’t lie to Finn today. In fact she took the words she said to Finn right out of my mouth.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 2:33PM (358 days ago) @Bhamgirl

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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GLFan, 5/16/2023, 2:45PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.

Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.

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Steffyfanatic, 5/16/2023, 2:52PM (358 days ago) @GLFan

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.

I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol

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Finn: It was those prayers and the thought of you that willed my heart to take another beat and my lungs to take another breath. Because the truth is, Steffy, you saved my life.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 2:54PM (358 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol

The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Steffyfanatic, 5/16/2023, 2:58PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.

Right.

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Finn: It was those prayers and the thought of you that willed my heart to take another beat and my lungs to take another breath. Because the truth is, Steffy, you saved my life.

Team SINN! Team Thope!

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Rena @, Landover, MD, 5/16/2023, 3:46PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.

The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 3:50PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?

Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Rena @, Landover, MD, 5/16/2023, 3:57PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.

If her parents felt they were being manipulated, I would expect them to say so, in no uncertain terms. They did not.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 4:05PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


If her parents felt they were being manipulated, I would expect them to say so, in no uncertain terms. They did not.

Ridge told them to stop. Multiple times. Why do adults need to be told to behave? Are they that stupid?

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Rena @, Landover, MD, 5/16/2023, 4:15PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


If her parents felt they were being manipulated, I would expect them to say so, in no uncertain terms. They did not.


Ridge told them to stop. Multiple times. Why do adults need to be told to behave? Are they that stupid?

Not stupid. But persistent. Steffy told Ridge that she would stop if you told her that he did not love her mother. That was his opportunity to shut her up and tell her that he loved her mother but was in love with Brooke. He did not do that so she continued pushing them together because he gave her hope. She is entitled to state her opinion and her parents are entitled to not entertain it. But they did so I'm not sure what blame she should receive.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 4:23PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


If her parents felt they were being manipulated, I would expect them to say so, in no uncertain terms. They did not.


Ridge told them to stop. Multiple times. Why do adults need to be told to behave? Are they that stupid?


Not stupid. But persistent. Steffy told Ridge that she would stop if you told her that he did not love her mother. That was his opportunity to shut her up and tell her that he loved her mother but was in love with Brooke. He did not do that so she continued pushing them together because he gave her hope. She is entitled to state her opinion and her parents are entitled to not entertain it. But they did so I'm not sure what blame she should receive.

She should be adult enough to let her parents live their lives. No one needs her crappy input. Obviously Ridge is sorely missing his lovely Brooke, so will they be back to parent trapping when Ridge gets back with Brooke? Yes, if they do continue, they are stupid. That is my opinion.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 4:18PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


If her parents felt they were being manipulated, I would expect them to say so, in no uncertain terms. They did not.


Ridge told them to stop. Multiple times. Why do adults need to be told to behave? Are they that stupid?

Yes. Stupid and juvenile. And it's hilarious that their plan backfired and Taylor was left at the altar. The sidepiece left standing there, wearing her wedding dress for hours, praying Ridge would come back and marry her. :-D

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 4:10PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


If her parents felt they were being manipulated, I would expect them to say so, in no uncertain terms. They did not.

Ridge did get angry at her for hijacking his phone when Brooke tried to call him. As for Taylor, why would she say anything? She was the beneficiary of it.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Dreamgirl, 5/16/2023, 8:53PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


If her parents felt they were being manipulated, I would expect them to say so, in no uncertain terms. They did not.

Oh they did. More precisely, she did. Laughingly, while throwing grapes, and bad-mouthing Brooke out of the other side of her mouth.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Barbybo, 5/16/2023, 4:07PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.

And Hope needs 24/ 7 babysitter they treat her like amoron

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 4:09PM (358 days ago) @Barbybo

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


And Hope needs 24/ 7 babysitter they treat her like amoron

The only person who seems to need a babysitter is Thomas. His mommy checks on him every day, some times multiple times a day. Steffy thinks he can be easily "derailed" if Hope looks at him. Poor Thomas, can't be a man.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Annie, 5/16/2023, 8:35PM (358 days ago) @lynnsmom

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Steffy is big girl. Her parents shouldn't have to tell her to not manipulate and badmouth others.


And Hope needs 24/ 7 babysitter they treat her like amoron


The only person who seems to need a babysitter is Thomas. His mommy checks on him every day, some times multiple times a day. Steffy thinks he can be easily "derailed" if Hope looks at him. Poor Thomas, can't be a man.

And yet she didn't even think it necessary to come see her son when he had brain bleed and was interacting with a mannequin. It's not just Thomas she is interested in.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 3:59PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?

Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Rena @, Landover, MD, 5/16/2023, 4:08PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.

Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 4:15PM (358 days ago) @Rena
edited by Drangonfly, 5/16/2023, 4:22PM

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.


Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.

The point is, the CPS call was the only thing anyone cared about after it was exposed. Everyone conveniently forgot all the things Steffy did. Illegally hacking into Brooke's home security system, hijacking Brooke's phone, setting up the Forrester only dinners to which Brooke was excluded, browbeating Ridge to get him to leave Brooke, charging over to Brooke's house and throwing her past in her face, and let's not forget, declaring war on the Logans because Brooke supposedly stole Ridge and Hope supposedly stole Liam.

After everything Steffy did to hurt her, the writers actually had Brooke THANK her. What a joke.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Rena @, Landover, MD, 5/16/2023, 4:25PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.


Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.


The point is, the CPS call was the only thing anyone cared about after it was exposed. Everyone conveniently forgot all the things Steffy did. Illegally hacking into Brooke's home security system, hijacking Brooke's phone, setting up the Forrester only dinners to which Brooke was excluded, browbeating Ridge to get him to leave Brooke, charging over to Brooke's house and throwing her past in her face, and let's not forget, declaring war on the Logans because Brooke supposedly stole Ridge and Hope supposedly stole Liam.

All of that was done out in the open and people had plenty of time to blame Steffy if that's what they wanted to do. The bone of contention with EVERYBODY was the call to CPS, setting up his father to find out it was Brooke through their friend from CPS and dragging Douglas into the mess. All of that falls on Thomas.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 4:29PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.


Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.


The point is, the CPS call was the only thing anyone cared about after it was exposed. Everyone conveniently forgot all the things Steffy did. Illegally hacking into Brooke's home security system, hijacking Brooke's phone, setting up the Forrester only dinners to which Brooke was excluded, browbeating Ridge to get him to leave Brooke, charging over to Brooke's house and throwing her past in her face, and let's not forget, declaring war on the Logans because Brooke supposedly stole Ridge and Hope supposedly stole Liam.


All of that was done out in the open and people had plenty of time to blame Steffy if that's what they wanted to do. The bone of contention with EVERYBODY was the call to CPS, setting up his father to find out it was Brooke through their friend from CPS and dragging Douglas into the mess. All of that falls on Thomas.

And all the stuff Steffy did should fall on her. But, no one even mentioned any of it. The wrote it so that, by stopping the wedding, she was the "hero" of the story when we all saw her acting like a witch for months and months. Trashing Brooke like it was nobody's business. Trying to destroy her marriage. Acting like a teeny bopper trying to get her parents together. Brooke thanking her was too much. Like I said, the writers will never let Steffy be blamed for anything.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

Rena @, Landover, MD, 5/16/2023, 4:50PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.


Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.


The point is, the CPS call was the only thing anyone cared about after it was exposed. Everyone conveniently forgot all the things Steffy did. Illegally hacking into Brooke's home security system, hijacking Brooke's phone, setting up the Forrester only dinners to which Brooke was excluded, browbeating Ridge to get him to leave Brooke, charging over to Brooke's house and throwing her past in her face, and let's not forget, declaring war on the Logans because Brooke supposedly stole Ridge and Hope supposedly stole Liam.


All of that was done out in the open and people had plenty of time to blame Steffy if that's what they wanted to do. The bone of contention with EVERYBODY was the call to CPS, setting up his father to find out it was Brooke through their friend from CPS and dragging Douglas into the mess. All of that falls on Thomas.


And all the stuff Steffy did should fall on her. But, no one even mentioned any of it. The wrote it so that, by stopping the wedding, she was the "hero" of the story when we all saw her acting like a witch for months and months. Trashing Brooke like it was nobody's business. Trying to destroy her marriage. Acting like a teeny bopper trying to get her parents together. Brooke thanking her was too much. Like I said, the writers will never let Steffy be blamed for anything.

Thomas was right there with her doing the same thing. No one blamed him either. The crap hit the fan when Thomas took it too far.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 5:35PM (358 days ago) @Rena

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.

Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.


Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.


The point is, the CPS call was the only thing anyone cared about after it was exposed. Everyone conveniently forgot all the things Steffy did. Illegally hacking into Brooke's home security system, hijacking Brooke's phone, setting up the Forrester only dinners to which Brooke was excluded, browbeating Ridge to get him to leave Brooke, charging over to Brooke's house and throwing her past in her face, and let's not forget, declaring war on the Logans because Brooke supposedly stole Ridge and Hope supposedly stole Liam.


All of that was done out in the open and people had plenty of time to blame Steffy if that's what they wanted to do. The bone of contention with EVERYBODY was the call to CPS, setting up his father to find out it was Brooke through their friend from CPS and dragging Douglas into the mess. All of that falls on Thomas.


And all the stuff Steffy did should fall on her. But, no one even mentioned any of it. The wrote it so that, by stopping the wedding, she was the "hero" of the story when we all saw her acting like a witch for months and months. Trashing Brooke like it was nobody's business. Trying to destroy her marriage. Acting like a teeny bopper trying to get her parents together. Brooke thanking her was too much. Like I said, the writers will never let Steffy be blamed for anything.


Thomas was right there with her doing the same thing. No one blamed him either. The crap hit the fan when Thomas took it too far.

The CPS call was the only thing mentioned. Which proves my point.

Remember that scene when Brooke went to Aspen and she was sitting on the bench after Ridge rejected her? Remember when Steffy saw her and was so cruel to her? She said the most awful, mean things to her when she KNEW she was at a low point. Do you think it's realistic that Brooke would THANK her, after that? And after all the other stuff she did?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Why drag steffy into this Hope drama?

TeamSheila2.0, 5/16/2023, 9:56PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.

Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.

I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol


The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.


Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.


The point is, the CPS call was the only thing anyone cared about after it was exposed. Everyone conveniently forgot all the things Steffy did. Illegally hacking into Brooke's home security system, hijacking Brooke's phone, setting up the Forrester only dinners to which Brooke was excluded, browbeating Ridge to get him to leave Brooke, charging over to Brooke's house and throwing her past in her face, and let's not forget, declaring war on the Logans because Brooke supposedly stole Ridge and Hope supposedly stole Liam.


All of that was done out in the open and people had plenty of time to blame Steffy if that's what they wanted to do. The bone of contention with EVERYBODY was the call to CPS, setting up his father to find out it was Brooke through their friend from CPS and dragging Douglas into the mess. All of that falls on Thomas.


And all the stuff Steffy did should fall on her. But, no one even mentioned any of it. The wrote it so that, by stopping the wedding, she was the "hero" of the story when we all saw her acting like a witch for months and months. Trashing Brooke like it was nobody's business. Trying to destroy her marriage. Acting like a teeny bopper trying to get her parents together. Brooke thanking her was too much. Like I said, the writers will never let Steffy be blamed for anything.


Thomas was right there with her doing the same thing. No one blamed him either. The crap hit the fan when Thomas took it too far.


The CPS call was the only thing mentioned. Which proves my point.

Remember that scene when Brooke went to Aspen and she was sitting on the bench after Ridge rejected her? Remember when Steffy saw her and was so cruel to her? She said the most awful, mean things to her when she KNEW she was at a low point. Do you think it's realistic that Brooke would THANK her, after that? And after all the other stuff she did?

I blame Steffy more than Thomas for this whole mess. She harassed him for like 1 year to DO SOMETHING (her words) to reunite mommy and daddy. Thomas just obeyed his sister. But he took all the blame in the end. :lol

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Drangonfly @, 5/17/2023, 12:15AM (358 days ago) @TeamSheila2.0

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.

Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.

I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.

Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.

I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol

The writers don't allow Steffy to be blamed for anything. The entire parent trap, which Steffy started, was blamed on Thomas.


The CPS call was what was blamed on Thomas. Rightfully so. Steffy has upfront about her desire to see her parents together. And not very subtle about it. Neither of her parents told her to stop it with bass in their voice. What kind of blame should be assigned to her?


Lol, even Thomas called her out for starting the whole thing but not getting the blame.


Of course Thomas was trying to shift blame because he took it too far. That is not on Steffy. He only got blamed for the CPS call. No one blamed him for not shutting up about his parents needing to be together. That's his opinion and he is entitled to it. He is not entitled to lie on Brooke to ensure he gets what he wants.


The point is, the CPS call was the only thing anyone cared about after it was exposed. Everyone conveniently forgot all the things Steffy did. Illegally hacking into Brooke's home security system, hijacking Brooke's phone, setting up the Forrester only dinners to which Brooke was excluded, browbeating Ridge to get him to leave Brooke, charging over to Brooke's house and throwing her past in her face, and let's not forget, declaring war on the Logans because Brooke supposedly stole Ridge and Hope supposedly stole Liam.


All of that was done out in the open and people had plenty of time to blame Steffy if that's what they wanted to do. The bone of contention with EVERYBODY was the call to CPS, setting up his father to find out it was Brooke through their friend from CPS and dragging Douglas into the mess. All of that falls on Thomas.


And all the stuff Steffy did should fall on her. But, no one even mentioned any of it. The wrote it so that, by stopping the wedding, she was the "hero" of the story when we all saw her acting like a witch for months and months. Trashing Brooke like it was nobody's business. Trying to destroy her marriage. Acting like a teeny bopper trying to get her parents together. Brooke thanking her was too much. Like I said, the writers will never let Steffy be blamed for anything.


Thomas was right there with her doing the same thing. No one blamed him either. The crap hit the fan when Thomas took it too far.


The CPS call was the only thing mentioned. Which proves my point.

Remember that scene when Brooke went to Aspen and she was sitting on the bench after Ridge rejected her? Remember when Steffy saw her and was so cruel to her? She said the most awful, mean things to her when she KNEW she was at a low point. Do you think it's realistic that Brooke would THANK her, after that? And after all the other stuff she did?


I blame Steffy more than Thomas for this whole mess. She harassed him for like 1 year to DO SOMETHING (her words) to reunite mommy and daddy. Thomas just obeyed his sister. But he took all the blame in the end. :lol

Exactly. IIRC, her words were...We have to do whatever it takes. And somehow she is the hero of the story. What a joke.

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GLFan, 5/16/2023, 4:07PM (358 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I wonder if Liam will be mad at Steffy too. He’s been asking her if he should be worried and she’s not telling him what she saw. I think she shouldn’t but Liam may see it as a betrayal of his trust cause he trusted her to be honest with him. :lol

I think he will, yes, and I think Steffy will feel guilty about it.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 2:53PM (358 days ago) @GLFan

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.

I don't think any of it is intentional. Seems to me that she doesn't WANT to be having these feelings. Whatever this issue is, her thinking she's like Brooke and wanting a "bad boy" is causing all of this, IMO.

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"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Barbybo, 5/16/2023, 4:08PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

I agree, planned or perhaps only subconsciously, Steffy wants to be with Liam.


Why is Steffy being blamed for Hope's desires? Just because she's looking out for her brother? Steffy seems to be completely satisfied with letting go of bland for her hot Dr. husband.


I don't think Steffy is going after Liam. Not at the moment, anyway. But whatever it is that is going on with Hope, Steffy is going to make it worse.


Right now Hope is making fools out of both Liam and Steffy by lying to both of them and they are both going to be angry. Not that I think she should sit them both down and tell them she’s lusting after Thomas but she should have taken the confrontation with Steffy as a wake up call and just stopped with the longing looks.


I don't think any of it is intentional. Seems to me that she doesn't WANT to be having these feelings. Whatever this issue is, her thinking she's like Brooke and wanting a "bad boy" is causing all of this, IMO.

She certainly knocks mommy daily

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 1:05PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this

Steffy dragged herself into this drama...by deciding that Hope had to accept Tom back as her designer, no matter what.
She practically forced Hope to either take Tom back or lose her line. And now she is watching her like a hawk and always telling her not to dare derail her poor little brother.
Steffy feels totally at home in this drama situation.

Exactly. There was no reason for her to go see Liam at FC. She had Finn at home, making her dinner and wanting to spend time with her, and what does she do? She goes to see her sweet ex husband.

The truth is, Sinn have no story outside of Sheila, and since the Sheila story is in a holding pattern, there is nothing for Finn and Steffy to do, except make out. We had an episode last week where making out was literally all they did the entire episode, except for when they were talking about Hope and Liam.

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"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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GLFan, 5/16/2023, 12:13PM (358 days ago) @Barbybo

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat

So people can blame Steffy for whatever happens as usual.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 12:14PM (358 days ago) @GLFan

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat


So people can blame Steffy for whatever happens as usual.

What people?

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GracieGirl, 5/16/2023, 12:23PM (358 days ago) @Barbybo

Because Steffy and Finn need the drama. It’s a soap. Whose side would Steffy be on in a custody battle? Her brother’s or would she use this as an opportunity to stick it to Hope. I’m starting to like this story. I had to give up being a Hope fan to do it. It might be worth it.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/16/2023, 1:01PM (358 days ago) @GracieGirl

I will never stop liking Hope...actually I like AN a lot so will like Hope too even if she will sometimes make mistakes or silly decisions.

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lynnsmom, 5/16/2023, 1:05PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this

I will never stop liking Hope...actually I like AN a lot so will like Hope too even if she will sometimes make mistakes or silly decisions.

Agreed. I mean, even Thomas has fans, and look at how awful he is! I love Hope and I love Brooke. I don't like Hope talking down about or to Brooke, and that is terrible to me. But I won't stop liking Hope because she does something dumb. It happens to all characters.

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GracieGirl, 5/16/2023, 1:06PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54

I have supported Hope from Day 1, but Thomas is a step too far. I strongly believe in supporting help for the mentally ill. If I sound harsh it’s because I think the show should not play loose with mental illness or violence when kids are involved. They took Thomas too far too many times. It makes Hope look creepy for having desires for him.

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 1:07PM (358 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this

I have supported Hope from Day 1, but Thomas is a step too far. I strongly believe supporting the mentally ill. If I sound harsh it’s because I think the show should not play loose with mental illness or violence. They took Thomas too far too many times. It makes Hope look creepy for having desires for him.

I think Bell will write Hope out of this corner he's written her into. When this story is over Hope will be just fine and we'll be on to the next terribly written story. :-D

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"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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GracieGirl, 5/16/2023, 1:13PM (358 days ago) @Drangonfly

You win the quote of the day. Mic drop!!!!

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Drangonfly @, 5/16/2023, 1:37PM (358 days ago) @GracieGirl

You win the quote of the day. Mic drop!!!!

:lol

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"You're the love of my life."

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/16/2023, 1:10PM (358 days ago) @GracieGirl

I wouldn´t call it creepy, rather a bit naive...and actually, if Hope were a real person, I would ask myself what she is missing in her life or her relationship with Liam that makes her vulnerable to Tom´s compliments and, at the moment, silent way to love her. The hurt over what happened some years ago might sit deeper than we or Liam think.
And Liam again is running to Steffy as his confidant...wouldn´t brother Wyatt be enough?

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GracieGirl, 5/16/2023, 1:15PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54

I can agree with that. It doesn’t bother me Hope is confused or naive. It’s the Thomas factor.

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GLFan, 5/16/2023, 1:08PM (358 days ago) @Lizzy54

I will never stop liking Hope...actually I like AN a lot so will like Hope too even if she will sometimes make mistakes or silly decisions.

All of them make mistakes and bad decisions at times.

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Barbybo, 5/16/2023, 5:10PM (358 days ago) @GLFan

I will never stop liking Hope...actually I like AN a lot so will like Hope too even if she will sometimes make mistakes or silly decisions.


All of them make mistakes and bad decisions at times.

No morals

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LadyMac @, 5/16/2023, 5:09PM (358 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat

Because she's a buttinski....If indeed Thope is rising, then I imagine Leffy is as well. Think you can't have one without the other. Enjoy!

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Barbybo, 5/16/2023, 5:26PM (358 days ago) @LadyMac

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat


Because she's a buttinski....If indeed Thope is rising, then I imagine Leffy is as well. Think you can't have one without the other. Enjoy!

Steffys happy she ain’t going back to big cry baby

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q, 5/16/2023, 5:38PM (358 days ago) @Barbybo

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat

Steffy has to be in it because tommy by needs his baby sitter.

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Barbybo, 5/17/2023, 8:25AM (357 days ago) @q

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat


Steffy has to be in it because tommy by needs his baby sitter.

I think Hopes getting sick of her sitter….:lol all I know for now I won’t be ff Hope …..she certainly ain’t boreing now….

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q, 5/17/2023, 11:46AM (357 days ago) @Barbybo

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat


Steffy has to be in it because tommy by needs his baby sitter.


I think Hopes getting sick of her sitter….:lol all I know for now I won’t be ff Hope …..she certainly ain’t boreing now….

Hope doesn't have a sitter. She comes and goes the way she wants and makes her own decisions.
Hope was never boring.
Tommy's mommy has admitted going to FC every day just to check on her baby boy and he needs his little baby sister to keep watch on Hope.
Don't know why a wife cheating on her husband with a psycho scum bag like Thomas would make her interesting. We have enough of that.

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Barbybo, 5/17/2023, 5:17PM (357 days ago) @q

Can we have a story just involving Liam Hope Tom…….do we need this steffy Liam yap it up stuff…..I hope they never put steffy back with Liam ….I hope they don’t bond over this …it would be another rerun we get enough reruns…Steffys happy with Finn sure he’s kinda dull but he don’t cheat


Steffy has to be in it because tommy by needs his baby sitter.


I think Hopes getting sick of her sitter….:lol all I know for now I won’t be ff Hope …..she certainly ain’t boreing now….


Hope doesn't have a sitter. She comes and goes the way she wants and makes her own decisions.
Hope was never boring.
Tommy's mommy has admitted going to FC every day just to check on her baby boy and he needs his little baby sister to keep watch on Hope.
Don't know why a wife cheating on her husband with a psycho scum bag like Thomas would make her interesting. We have enough of that.

It’s drama …..I can’t stand Liam yapping about it

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mscherry, 5/17/2023, 5:51PM (357 days ago) @q

The only reason some think it would make interesting is do that they sxxx shame her like they do Brooke...hope would finally be on steffy level...

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q, 5/18/2023, 2:11PM (356 days ago) @mscherry

The only reason some think it would make interesting is do that they sxxx shame her like they do Brooke...hope would finally be on steffy level...

Hope would have to do a whole lot more than Thomas to be on Steffy's level. Can't see Hope having sex with Bill, her father in law like Steffy did.

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PatriotGirl @, 5/18/2023, 2:21PM (356 days ago) @q

The only reason some think it would make interesting is do that they sxxx shame her like they do Brooke...hope would finally be on steffy level...


Hope would have to do a whole lot more than Thomas to be on Steffy's level. Can't see Hope having sex with Bill, her father in law like Steffy did.

That's a non-starter because I can't see Bill ever having interest Hope in that way. . .

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q, 5/18/2023, 2:33PM (356 days ago) @PatriotGirl

The only reason some think it would make interesting is do that they sxxx shame her like they do Brooke...hope would finally be on steffy level...


Hope would have to do a whole lot more than Thomas to be on Steffy's level. Can't see Hope having sex with Bill, her father in law like Steffy did.


That's a non-starter because I can't see Bill ever having interest Hope in that way. . .

I agree. But that is one of the ways that I see Hope reaching Steffy's level.

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