If Hope says she loves Thomas (General)

GracieGirl, 5/14/2023, 10:05PM (355 days ago)

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

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Hit-Girl, 5/14/2023, 10:17PM (355 days ago) @GracieGirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

Every characters should be SINGLE forever using thig logic! Brooke and Taylor will always love Ridge just like Steffy and Hope will always love Liam! Does this mean these 4 women should be nuns forever? :rules

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GracieGirl, 5/14/2023, 10:20PM (355 days ago) @Hit-Girl

There’s a difference between having warm feelings for someone and still being in love with someone. I think Liam cares deeply for Steffy. I do not believe he’s in love with her. Do you really believe that Hope can say she is no longer in love with Liam. You believe that Hope is in love with two men?

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BBDownunder, 5/14/2023, 10:21PM (355 days ago) @GracieGirl

There’s a difference between having warm feelings for someone and still being in love with someone. I think Liam cares deeply for Steffy. I do not believe he’s in love with her. Do you really believe that Hope can say she is no longer in love with Liam. You believe that Hope is in love with two men?

MAYBE lIAM IS JUST a habit for Hope now

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GracieGirl, 5/14/2023, 10:28PM (355 days ago) @BBDownunder

That would be a dramatic change. Not only is she lusting for Thomas, she stopped loving Liam. He’s a mere habit. What a rewrite from just a few weeks ago. Heck maybe she stopped loving Liam ages ago and has been lying about it. If that’s true that’s even worse. Lope is dead if that’s the story. It is 100% unrealistic to write a story where Hope has been pretending to love Liam it may be unintentional gaslighting but it is gaslighting nonetheless. Did Hope stay married to Liam because she didn’t want Steffy to have him? Now that Steffy is happy she’s willing to dump Liam. Would the show undermine Hope like that. That’s a huge character change.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/15/2023, 1:20AM (355 days ago) @GracieGirl

Why should Hope be willing to dump Liam? At the monent she seems confused by her feelings for Tom and it may even be a case of divided heart, like Liam has for years now, but I am convinced she still loves Liam and always will...just like Liam told Steffy not too long ago that he "never not loved her".
Even if Hope in her confusion should taste the forbidden fruit Tom she will be well aware that Liam is the love of her life. And even if Liam should crawl back to Steffy for some time he will still know that Hope is IT for him.

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GracieGirl, 5/15/2023, 7:45AM (354 days ago) @Lizzy54

Makes no sense to me. I’m not sure how making out with a man who victimized your family over a decade proves you love your husband.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 5/15/2023, 12:13PM (354 days ago) @GracieGirl

Liam too made out with Steffy a lot of times, even cheated on Hope with her, and still he told Hope she is the center of his universe and that he loves Steffy but is IN LOVE with Hope...it can happen, to Liam but also to Hope...I suppose Liam will recognize his own pattern that he used so often.
In the end, whenever it comes, Lope will be together again and fine, I´d take any bet!

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Barbybo, 5/15/2023, 5:18PM (354 days ago) @Lizzy54

Liam too made out with Steffy a lot of times, even cheated on Hope with her, and still he told Hope she is the center of his universe and that he loves Steffy but is IN LOVE with Hope...it can happen, to Liam but also to Hope...I suppose Liam will recognize his own pattern that he used so often.
In the end, whenever it comes, Lope will be together again and fine, I´d take any be

Disgusting way to live….toxic couple

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Hit-Girl, 5/14/2023, 10:32PM (355 days ago) @GracieGirl

There’s a difference between having warm feelings for someone and still being in love with someone. I think Liam cares deeply for Steffy. I do not believe he’s in love with her. Do you really believe that Hope can say she is no longer in love with Liam. You believe that Hope is in love with two men?

She will always love Liam, they share a child, they have 10 years of history! But honestly, she has looked bored for a while now! At the moment she looks miserable and her happiness and Liam's happiness should come first, they both look very unhappy! Her heart is beating faster for Thomas, she lights up around him and thinks about Thomas when she is with Liam but not about Liam when she is around Thomas!
Difference between the 2 guys (in Hope's mind) is Thomas is only interested and in love with one woman and that is Hope! If Liam and Thomas care about Hope's happiness as much as they claim, they will both agree that she should try something new with Thomas! Liam should take himself out and give Hope's heart what she wants! Douglas will be the happiest kid in the world too! This is how I am seeing it! ;-)

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matisse, 5/14/2023, 10:46PM (355 days ago) @Hit-Girl

There’s a difference between having warm feelings for someone and still being in love with someone. I think Liam cares deeply for Steffy. I do not believe he’s in love with her. Do you really believe that Hope can say she is no longer in love with Liam. You believe that Hope is in love with two men?


She will always love Liam, they share a child, they have 10 years of history! But honestly, she has looked bored for a while now! At the moment she looks miserable and her happiness and Liam's happiness should come first, they both look very unhappy! Her heart is beating faster for Thomas, she lights up around him and thinks about Thomas when she is with Liam but not about Liam when she is around Thomas!
Difference between the 2 guys (in Hope's mind) is Thomas is only interested and in love with one woman and that is Hope! If Liam and Thomas care about Hope's happiness as much as they claim, they will both agree that she should try something new with Thomas! Liam should take himself out and give Hope's heart what she wants! Douglas will be the happiest kid in the world too! This is how I am seeing it! ;-)

Wrong....their happiness and well-being should not come first at all....Beth's happiness should absolutely be the priority. And since Beth is just a little kid her happiness rests with her two parents living together with HER, they way she has always known it. Liam and Hope do not hate each other, they can actually stand each other and seem to be able to have hot sex together....so they have a DUTY to their biological child to make it work. Maybe when this comes out Liam should just ask her if she wants the same deal Quinn had with Eric when she was screwing Carter....that should be the cold water than might wake Hope up from her Thomas stupor of stupidity. I am sure if he asked her that question with the right amount of disgust in his voice, she would be horrified that this is how low she has gotten. She is already pretty low right now, allowing Liam to THINK Tom is the one with the fantasy going on....she is a bad life partner and a bad mother in this SL. IMO

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Barbybo, 5/15/2023, 7:05AM (354 days ago) @GracieGirl

There’s a difference between having warm feelings for someone and still being in love with someone. I think Liam cares deeply for Steffy. I do not believe he’s in love with her. Do you really believe that Hope can say she is no longer in love with Liam. You believe that Hope is in love with two men?

I think Hope is enjoying her career and has out grown Liam along the way

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GracieGirl, 5/15/2023, 10:28AM (354 days ago) @Barbybo

I can believe she’s bored. I cannot believe she wants Tom. Illogical to me.

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Joy, 5/14/2023, 10:22PM (355 days ago) @GracieGirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.

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GracieGirl, 5/14/2023, 10:32PM (355 days ago) @Joy

I get that Brooke’s National Enquirer life thanks to tips from Stephanie was embarrassing and damaging. I thought Hope dealt with it a while ago. If it’s unresolved, Hope should have dealt with it when her mother told her she was absolutely ashamed that she slept with Deacon. Hope was acting wacky then about Deacon. This all seems out of the blue.

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matisse, 5/14/2023, 10:53PM (355 days ago) @Joy

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.

I am right there with you. It is icky on many levels....from 17 year old Thomas babysitting 5 year old Hope....to his trying to murder her older brother twice to his ruining her marriage to Ridge, twice, to his wishing Beth would stay dead forever. Wishing Beth dead was the worst of it, and for that reason alone....Thope if together would be nothing but sick and trashy.

I know if Bell does Thope in any manner other than the junk that has happened already. I will be rooting for a new exciting woman for Liam or even that he and Steffy reunite...just to stick it to Hope. Steam raising Beth and Kelly together. I would LMAO. SC is one of the main stars of this show, and has won more Emmy's than anyone but Htom.....so I am sure he is not going to be back burned for Thope. LOL

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Barbybo, 5/15/2023, 7:07AM (354 days ago) @matisse

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.


I am right there with you. It is icky on many levels....from 17 year old Thomas babysitting 5 year old Hope....to his trying to murder her older brother twice to his ruining her marriage to Ridge, twice, to his wishing Beth would stay dead forever. Wishing Beth dead was the worst of it, and for that reason alone....Thope if together would be nothing but sick and trashy.

I know if Bell does Thope in any manner other than the junk that has happened already. I will be rooting for a new exciting woman for Liam or even that he and Steffy reunite...just to stick it to Hope. Steam raising Beth and Kelly together. I would LMAO. SC is one of the main stars of this show, and has won more Emmy's than anyone but Htom.....so I am sure he is not going to be back burned for Thope. LOL

Soaps are trashy not little house

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hopeyougogirl, 5/15/2023, 10:15AM (354 days ago) @matisse

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.


I am right there with you. It is icky on many levels....from 17 year old Thomas babysitting 5 year old Hope....to his trying to murder her older brother twice to his ruining her marriage to Ridge, twice, to his wishing Beth would stay dead forever. Wishing Beth dead was the worst of it, and for that reason alone....Thope if together would be nothing but sick and trashy.

I know if Bell does Thope in any manner other than the junk that has happened already. I will be rooting for a new exciting woman for Liam or even that he and Steffy reunite...just to stick it to Hope. Steam raising Beth and Kelly together. I would LMAO. SC is one of the main stars of this show, and has won more Emmy's than anyone but Htom.....so I am sure he is not going to be back burned for Thope. LOL

Nah..Leffy is dead. And bully Steffy has done her shares of evil tormenting Hope AND Brooke. So why reward this sanctimonious cheater/Logan hater with raising Hope’s daughter?! Smh.

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lynnsmom, 5/15/2023, 3:25PM (354 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.


I am right there with you. It is icky on many levels....from 17 year old Thomas babysitting 5 year old Hope....to his trying to murder her older brother twice to his ruining her marriage to Ridge, twice, to his wishing Beth would stay dead forever. Wishing Beth dead was the worst of it, and for that reason alone....Thope if together would be nothing but sick and trashy.

I know if Bell does Thope in any manner other than the junk that has happened already. I will be rooting for a new exciting woman for Liam or even that he and Steffy reunite...just to stick it to Hope. Steam raising Beth and Kelly together. I would LMAO. SC is one of the main stars of this show, and has won more Emmy's than anyone but Htom.....so I am sure he is not going to be back burned for Thope. LOL


Nah..Leffy is dead. And bully Steffy has done her shares of evil tormenting Hope AND Brooke. So why reward this sanctimonious cheater/Logan hater with raising Hope’s daughter?! Smh.

Won't matter. Even if Thope happens, Liam has ZERO grounds to take a child away from her mother. If Steffy, miss paternity test queen, can keep her kids, Hope certainly can.

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GLFan, 5/15/2023, 10:29AM (354 days ago) @matisse

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.


I am right there with you. It is icky on many levels....from 17 year old Thomas babysitting 5 year old Hope....to his trying to murder her older brother twice to his ruining her marriage to Ridge, twice, to his wishing Beth would stay dead forever. Wishing Beth dead was the worst of it, and for that reason alone....Thope if together would be nothing but sick and trashy.

I know if Bell does Thope in any manner other than the junk that has happened already. I will be rooting for a new exciting woman for Liam or even that he and Steffy reunite...just to stick it to Hope. Steam raising Beth and Kelly together. I would LMAO. SC is one of the main stars of this show, and has won more Emmy's than anyone but Htom.....so I am sure he is not going to be back burned for Thope. LOL

I’d rather see Thope raising Douglas and Beth together, with Liam having to coparent with both Thope and Sinn. It’s kind of the mess he made.

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GracieGirl, 5/15/2023, 10:31AM (354 days ago) @GLFan

Tom never deserves ever to be a father figure Beth, not ever and that’s the mess Tom created.

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PatriotGirl @, 5/15/2023, 11:00AM (354 days ago) @GLFan

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.


I am right there with you. It is icky on many levels....from 17 year old Thomas babysitting 5 year old Hope....to his trying to murder her older brother twice to his ruining her marriage to Ridge, twice, to his wishing Beth would stay dead forever. Wishing Beth dead was the worst of it, and for that reason alone....Thope if together would be nothing but sick and trashy.

I know if Bell does Thope in any manner other than the junk that has happened already. I will be rooting for a new exciting woman for Liam or even that he and Steffy reunite...just to stick it to Hope. Steam raising Beth and Kelly together. I would LMAO. SC is one of the main stars of this show, and has won more Emmy's than anyone but Htom.....so I am sure he is not going to be back burned for Thope. LOL


I’d rather see Thope raising Douglas and Beth together, with Liam having to coparent with both Thope and Sinn. It’s kind of the mess he made.

I agree with that. He thought he could always have one or the other. I think Liam deserves to end up without either one and be a part time dad to both his daughters.

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Vik., 5/15/2023, 1:17PM (354 days ago) @GLFan

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


I think Hope is still in love with Liam, but is confused about her feelings for Thomas or is trying to suppress them. I think the show is going to try to redeem Thomas by having him turn Hope down and "work on himself". To me, there is no redeeming Thomas after all that he has done. As a Hope fan, I will be disappointed if they put Hope and Thomas together and never accept the relationship. It is too icky after all that Thomas has done to Hope and her family. To me, only a mental illness would cause someone to fall in love with someone that had abused them and their family. I am also disappointed in the way that Hope talks about Brooke who has loved and supported her all of her life. Right now, Hope makes me want to shake her and scream what is wrong with you at her.


I am right there with you. It is icky on many levels....from 17 year old Thomas babysitting 5 year old Hope....to his trying to murder her older brother twice to his ruining her marriage to Ridge, twice, to his wishing Beth would stay dead forever. Wishing Beth dead was the worst of it, and for that reason alone....Thope if together would be nothing but sick and trashy.

I know if Bell does Thope in any manner other than the junk that has happened already. I will be rooting for a new exciting woman for Liam or even that he and Steffy reunite...just to stick it to Hope. Steam raising Beth and Kelly together. I would LMAO. SC is one of the main stars of this show, and has won more Emmy's than anyone but Htom.....so I am sure he is not going to be back burned for Thope. LOL


I’d rather see Thope raising Douglas and Beth together, with Liam having to coparent with both Thope and Sinn. It’s kind of the mess he made.


I would completely agree with this if Hope and Steffy were good, strong women and victims of Liam but it's never been true.

Yeah Liam is a mess, but in my book Hope and Steffy are just as bad if not worse. Steffy cheated on both brothers, slept with his father, dumped him after her miscarriage, lied and manipulated for years for him. Generally, she is just not a good person imo. And Hope is hardly better, I will never get over how she used and treated Oliver and Wyatt. Divorced her 2 husbands after a miscarriage, waffled, lied. She has put Thomas above her marriage for 4 years.

Liam is the exact kind of person they deserve. A waffling cheater juste like them. He is no better or worse. Finn (as boring as I find him) is the one who deserves better and should find a woman with un individed heart. Thomas should move on from Hope as well. The triangle from hell deserves nothing good for me.

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matisse, 5/14/2023, 10:41PM (355 days ago) @GracieGirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

No, she still loves Liam, and is in love with Liam. I think whatever she is feeling about Tom is about her "baby" HFTF....and that he gave her back Douglas without a fight. She is messed up in the head. Will she lose Liam because of her mental state, probably. Will she be sorry when he meets another woman, or hooks back up with Steffy, 1000% she will be depressed and more messed up and not be able to understand how she threw her happiness away with both her hands.

Here is the reason I am turning on Hope completely if she leaves Liam and runs to Tom....that means she does not love Beth more than she wants to scratch and itch for Tom. Beth has not even factored in at all in this SL, she has with Liam, since he seems to be the one raising Beth by himself right now. Hope no longer cares about her child enough to do the right thing.

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GracieGirl, 5/14/2023, 10:47PM (355 days ago) @matisse

Well you explained my angst. I have been mad with Hope since she left Beth and Liam at home to go spend the night with Douglas. It was 100% inappropriate. I have been a Hope fan forever. It doesn’t mean I am a Steffy fan, it means that Hope is a major disappointment and totally fickle. I don’t like the way Hope seems to prefer time with Douglas and Thomas to Liam and Beth. Everything is centered on Douglases needs.

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Judx, 5/15/2023, 6:30AM (354 days ago) @matisse
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No, she still loves Liam, and is in love with Liam. I think whatever she is feeling about Tom is about her "baby" HFTF....and that he gave her back Douglas without a fight. She is messed up in the head. Will she lose Liam because of her mental state, probably. Will she be sorry when he meets another woman, or hooks back up with Steffy, 1000% she will be depressed and more messed up and not be able to understand how she threw her happiness away with both her hands.

Here is the reason I am turning on Hope completely if she leaves Liam and runs to Tom....that means she does not love Beth more than she wants to scratch and itch for Tom. Beth has not even factored in at all in this SL, she has with Liam, since he seems to be the one raising Beth by himself right now. Hope no longer cares about her child enough to do the right thing.

Yes, agree with you.

I don’t know what SL the show is selling but they lost me awhile ago with Hope and Thomas. There are too many issues standing against this and it began developing since Douglas entered the picture a few years ago.

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Fickledseptum @, 5/14/2023, 10:52PM (355 days ago) @GracieGirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

Thomas is not much better than Steffy or Taylor when it comes to partners who are still in love with someone. Look at his trackrecord. He went after Amber and Caitlin when they were with Rick. Went after Caroline when she was with Rick. Went after Caroline again when she was married to Ridge. And Ivy, and Nicole and Sasha. Being with a woman who is still in love with another man has never bothered him. Just like his crazy mother and manipulative sister. Why would it change today with Hope?

For Hope, a bigger part of me is hoping she will really be in love with 2 guys. I am one of the few who likes her with both. And This is the only thing that will get her away from that boring backburner cabin, at this point. She and Liam have been practically invisible since Vinny's death. The triangle with Wyatt was nice while it lasted but Hope's heart never really looked divided, she was all about Liam. They need to make it more dramatic this time. As long as Thomas isn't obsessing, stalking and manipulatiing anymore, I am all for Hope being in love 50-50 with both. Between happy in the backburner and this, I'll choose the latter. I already know what happens if Lope break up and make up 2 months later. The triangle from hell BRT and Sinn-Sheila will be hogging my screen again. No thanks.

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KKLBAB12, 5/14/2023, 11:43PM (355 days ago) @Fickledseptum- one person liked this

This isn't love..it's Stockholm Syndrome.
It's a nervous breakdown.

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Barbybo, 5/15/2023, 7:04AM (354 days ago) @GracieGirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

So Liam would be second choice but she’s now in love with Tom…..

If Hope says she loves Thomas

TeamSheila2.0, 5/15/2023, 7:12AM (354 days ago) @GracieGirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

She may still love Liam, but she looks completely stuck and bored in this marriage. When one has fantasies of another man and has to force herself to make love with her husband (first love scene) and daydreams about that other man on the couch (second love scene), it's a strong sign of a profound misery.

The sooner she gets out of this marriage, the better.

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If Hope says she loves Thomas

Barbybo, 5/15/2023, 7:37AM (354 days ago) @TeamSheila2.0

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.


She may still love Liam, but she looks completely stuck and bored in this marriage. When one has fantasies of another man and has to force herself to make love with her husband (first love scene) and daydreams about that other man on the couch (second love scene), it's a strong sign of a profound misery.

The sooner she gets out of this marriage, the better.

And gawd leave that cabin …..move on

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If Hope says she loves Thomas

Soapisfun, 5/15/2023, 8:13AM (354 days ago) @GracieGirl

I think Tom will say Liam is the love of your life he is yhe one who makes you happy. I want Tom to say that after he is aware of Hope’s feelings and then he will be redeemed for me.

If Hope says she loves Thomas

Barbybo, 5/15/2023, 8:19AM (354 days ago) @Soapisfun

I think Tom will say Liam is the love of your life he is yhe one who makes you happy. I want Tom to say that after he is aware of Hope’s feelings and then he will be redeemed for me.

Then we will be back to boreing cabin couple yet again

If Hope says she loves Thomas

naintednancy, 5/15/2023, 8:38AM (354 days ago) @GracieGirl

and he asks so you’re no longer in love with Liam, what do you think her answer would be. Do you believe Hope is no longer in love with Liam? Really? I can imagine show proving Thomas is healthier by having Thomas to say, he is not interested in a divided heart. It’s not that he doesn’t want her. He can’t handle that she’s not done with Liam.

Pretty sure she isn't going to say it to his face, directly. She may try, but something will interrupt it... the phone, a waiter,... Typical soap stuff. How many times has Flo tried to tell about Beth, she was always interrupted by something or someone...

Both Liam and Thomas are going to learn the truth in the most dramatic, unexpected way in Italy. It's going to be pretty :lol

Maybe Hope really won't have a choice when all is done and over... Maybe Liam will decide he is not an option anymore. I wouldn't blame him.

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