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Today Finn was ushered out... (General)

Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:06PM (374 days ago)- one person liked this

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Barbybo, 4/25/2023, 6:09PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

I don’t think steffy wants Liam …that’s done…notice Liam just walked in…

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:14PM (374 days ago) @Barbybo

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I don’t think steffy wants Liam …that’s done…notice Liam just walked in…

I think Steffy will always want Liam. But, I'm not saying I think she and Liam will get back together. They certainly could. But she is going to be involved in the Lope story, if you ask me.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Barbybo, 4/25/2023, 6:15PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I don’t think steffy wants Liam …that’s done…notice Liam just walked in…


I think Steffy will always want Liam. But, I'm not saying I think she and Liam will get back together. They certainly could. But she is going to be involved in the Lope story, if you ask me.

Oh you mean if Hope and Tom hook up

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:27PM (374 days ago) @Barbybo

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I don’t think steffy wants Liam …that’s done…notice Liam just walked in…


I think Steffy will always want Liam. But, I'm not saying I think she and Liam will get back together. They certainly could. But she is going to be involved in the Lope story, if you ask me.


Oh you mean if Hope and Tom hook up

Or whatever happens.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

SonOfMan ⌂, VT, 4/25/2023, 6:46PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I don’t think steffy wants Liam …that’s done…notice Liam just walked in…


I think Steffy will always want Liam. But, I'm not saying I think she and Liam will get back together. They certainly could. But she is going to be involved in the Lope story, if you ask me.

I bet she overhears something between Thomas and Hope in Rome. A love confession or some moment of closeness. She runs to Liam and blabs it to him.

She doesn't want Liam at the moment but I think she will enjoy watching their marriage fall apart!!! How she will react if he is free is another big question. Remember it took her nearly 1 year to divorce Wyatt for Liam after she learnt the truth about Quinn, so I doubt she would divorce Finn right away

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:49PM (374 days ago) @SonOfMan

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I don’t think steffy wants Liam …that’s done…notice Liam just walked in…


I think Steffy will always want Liam. But, I'm not saying I think she and Liam will get back together. They certainly could. But she is going to be involved in the Lope story, if you ask me.


I bet she overhears something between Thomas and Hope in Rome. A love confession or some moment of closeness. She runs to Liam and blabs it to him.

She doesn't want Liam at the moment but I think she will enjoy watching their marriage fall apart!!! How she will react if he is free is another big question. Remember it took her nearly 1 year to divorce Wyatt for Liam after she learnt the truth about Quinn, so I doubt she would divorce Finn right away

Now THIS is what I'm talking about. It very well could be something like this.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 4/26/2023, 1:15AM (374 days ago) @SonOfMan

But she already slept with Liam while she was still married to Wyatt.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/26/2023, 2:18AM (374 days ago) @SonOfMan

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I don’t think steffy wants Liam …that’s done…notice Liam just walked in…


I think Steffy will always want Liam. But, I'm not saying I think she and Liam will get back together. They certainly could. But she is going to be involved in the Lope story, if you ask me.


I bet she overhears something between Thomas and Hope in Rome. A love confession or some moment of closeness. She runs to Liam and blabs it to him.

She doesn't want Liam at the moment but I think she will enjoy watching their marriage fall apart!!! How she will react if he is free is another big question. Remember it took her nearly 1 year to divorce Wyatt for Liam after she learnt the truth about Quinn, so I doubt she would divorce Finn right away

Steffy wasted no time cheating on her new hubby Wyatt with Liam. Statt were only married like one day..when she wrapped her married legs around Liam and kissed him passionately at the beach. She also slept with her BIL while still married to Wyatt AND still wearing Wyatt's ring. LOL.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

Today Finn was ushered out...

SINNful, 4/25/2023, 6:11PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason

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Barbybo, 4/25/2023, 6:13PM (374 days ago) @SINNful- one person liked this

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason

I could not take another waffel by Liam or steffy…yuck…..

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:13PM (374 days ago) @SINNful

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason

When we had that scene with Li congratulating him on his new promotion it seemed obvious. And here we are.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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lynnsmom, 4/25/2023, 6:19PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason


When we had that scene with Li congratulating him on his new promotion it seemed obvious. And here we are.

Then Steffy was making comments about all of Finn's "late nights", as if she doesn't have people like Amelia to help with house stuff. Steffy is like a shark, she is smelling the chum in the water. She will be oh so available to talk with her "greatest gift".

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Barbybo, 4/25/2023, 6:20PM (374 days ago) @lynnsmom

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason


When we had that scene with Li congratulating him on his new promotion it seemed obvious. And here we are.


Then Steffy was making comments about all of Finn's "late nights", as if she doesn't have people like Amelia to help with house stuff. Steffy is like a shark, she is smelling the chum in the water. She will be oh so available to talk with her "greatest gift".

She was talking about time with hubbie not cleaning

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:29PM (374 days ago) @lynnsmom

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason


When we had that scene with Li congratulating him on his new promotion it seemed obvious. And here we are.


Then Steffy was making comments about all of Finn's "late nights", as if she doesn't have people like Amelia to help with house stuff. Steffy is like a shark, she is smelling the chum in the water. She will be oh so available to talk with her "greatest gift".

Her sweet husband. :-D

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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BabyKelly, 4/25/2023, 7:54PM (374 days ago) @lynnsmom

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason


When we had that scene with Li congratulating him on his new promotion it seemed obvious. And here we are.


Then Steffy was making comments about all of Finn's "late nights", as if she doesn't have people like Amelia to help with house stuff. Steffy is like a shark, she is smelling the chum in the water. She will be oh so available to talk with her "greatest gift".

That's right, they are talking. Like 2 co-parents who still care about each other. Nothing else. Only 1 girl is praising and fantasizing about the supervillain who tortured her and her family for years, and that girl isn't Steffy.

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lynnsmom, 4/26/2023, 7:11AM (374 days ago) @BabyKelly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I agree. They are blowing Finn off for a reason


When we had that scene with Li congratulating him on his new promotion it seemed obvious. And here we are.


Then Steffy was making comments about all of Finn's "late nights", as if she doesn't have people like Amelia to help with house stuff. Steffy is like a shark, she is smelling the chum in the water. She will be oh so available to talk with her "greatest gift".


That's right, they are talking. Like 2 co-parents who still care about each other. Nothing else. Only 1 girl is praising and fantasizing about the supervillain who tortured her and her family for years, and that girl isn't Steffy.

That may be your opinion, it isn't mine.

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Torval, 4/25/2023, 6:19PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

Baring the standalone episode (has no bearing on the development of the storylines), it's totally platonic though. I have seen many inappropriate moments between Leffy over the years, but I don't see it right now. All they talk about is Thomas and whether or not he has changed. If they stark talking about their past or gazing into each other's eyes like Thope, I will start to worry but right now, their scenes are ALL about Thomas. With Hope's encouragements, by the way.

Of course we all know it can change fast. If tomorrow Bell wants Leffy to kiss or start fantasizing about each other, all it takes is the stroke of the pen, I'm aware. It will be interesting to see the development until the Italy episodes.

I'm more clueless about FInn's role in this. I think more and more that he will fault with Sheila. She will get out of prison and he will do something. If they make Steffy waffle, they will give her an excuse.

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:33PM (374 days ago) @Torval

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


Baring the standalone episode (has no bearing on the development of the storylines), it's totally platonic though. I have seen many inappropriate moments between Leffy over the years, but I don't see it right now. All they talk about is Thomas and whether or not he has changed. If they stark talking about their past or gazing into each other's eyes like Thope, I will start to worry but right now, their scenes are ALL about Thomas. With Hope's encouragements, by the way.

Of course we all know it can change fast. If tomorrow Bell wants Leffy to kiss or start fantasizing about each other, all it takes is the stroke of the pen, I'm aware. It will be interesting to see the development until the Italy episodes.

I'm more clueless about FInn's role in this. I think more and more that he will fault with Sheila. She will get out of prison and he will do something. If they make Steffy waffle, they will give her an excuse.

I wouldn't expect Liam and Steffy to be making googly eyes at each other at this time in the story. I'm not even suggesting that they'll get back together. What I'm saying is that the groundwork may be being laid for a story that involves all of them. Minus Finn. It feels like Finn is being neutralized.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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IW, 4/25/2023, 6:31PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly- one person liked this

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:34PM (374 days ago) @IW

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.

Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

IW, 4/25/2023, 6:37PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.

I saw more sparks in his few scenes with Paris and I don't even like Paris much. Steffy drags him down. He should walk away from this mess.

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 6:44PM (374 days ago) @IW

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


I saw more sparks in his few scenes with Paris and I don't even like Paris much. Steffy drags him down. He should walk away from this mess.

He really needs a story that is more than making out with her and someone walks in.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Rena @, Landover, MD, 4/25/2023, 7:29PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.

Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.

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Today Finn was ushered out...

Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 8:05PM (374 days ago) @Rena

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.

I don't remember it that way.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Rena @, Landover, MD, 4/26/2023, 8:23AM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.

I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.

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Today Finn was ushered out...

Drangonfly @, 4/26/2023, 9:04AM (374 days ago) @Rena

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.


I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.

I gotta disagree.

Finn: But why do you wanna be with me, steffy?

Steffy: I can think of a million reasons why.

Finn: It can't be because liam's not available.

Steffy: It's--it's not. I like who I am when I'm with you. Like when you hold me as I fall asleep, how gentle and kind you are with your patients knowing that you will drop anything to take care of someone. I feel safe with you. I love the way you listen to my daughter and you make her feel like the most important person in the world. You make me feel that way, too. I want that for this child, for our child.

Wouldn't a more satisfying answer have been for her to say, "It's you I want and you I love. Not Liam. I got caught up in something because I was drinking but I'm over him for good."? Not, "I like who I am when I'm with you."

Instead she talked about how he holds her when she falls asleep and how gentle and kind he is. How safe he makes her feel and how good he is for her child. That was no where close to being convincing that she was over Liam.

And then he gave her a pass and blamed it all on Liam. I mean, she was going to ditch Finn and get back with Liam until she learned he wasn't going to leave Hope. I wonder what he would have thought if he knew that.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Rena @, Landover, MD, 4/26/2023, 9:20AM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.


I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.


I gotta disagree.

Finn: But why do you wanna be with me, steffy?

Steffy: I can think of a million reasons why.

Finn: It can't be because liam's not available.

Steffy: It's--it's not. I like who I am when I'm with you. Like when you hold me as I fall asleep, how gentle and kind you are with your patients knowing that you will drop anything to take care of someone. I feel safe with you. I love the way you listen to my daughter and you make her feel like the most important person in the world. You make me feel that way, too. I want that for this child, for our child.

Wouldn't a more satisfying answer have been for her to say, "It's you I want and you I love. Not Liam. I got caught up in something because I was drinking but I'm over him for good."? Not, "I like who I am when I'm with you."

Instead she talked about how he holds her when she falls asleep and how gentle and kind he is. How safe he makes her feel and how good he is for her child. That was no where close to being convincing that she was over Liam.

And then he gave her a pass and blamed it all on Liam. I mean, she was going to ditch Finn and get back with Liam until she learned he wasn't going to leave Hope. I wonder what he would have thought if he knew that.

You can absolutely disagree with what she said. You can not believe her. My issue is with the idea that Finn just said I forgive you 2 seconds after she confessed and never brought it up again. That is not what happened.

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Today Finn was ushered out...

Drangonfly @, 4/26/2023, 9:35AM (374 days ago) @Rena

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.


I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.


I gotta disagree.

Finn: But why do you wanna be with me, steffy?

Steffy: I can think of a million reasons why.

Finn: It can't be because liam's not available.

Steffy: It's--it's not. I like who I am when I'm with you. Like when you hold me as I fall asleep, how gentle and kind you are with your patients knowing that you will drop anything to take care of someone. I feel safe with you. I love the way you listen to my daughter and you make her feel like the most important person in the world. You make me feel that way, too. I want that for this child, for our child.

Wouldn't a more satisfying answer have been for her to say, "It's you I want and you I love. Not Liam. I got caught up in something because I was drinking but I'm over him for good."? Not, "I like who I am when I'm with you."

Instead she talked about how he holds her when she falls asleep and how gentle and kind he is. How safe he makes her feel and how good he is for her child. That was no where close to being convincing that she was over Liam.

And then he gave her a pass and blamed it all on Liam. I mean, she was going to ditch Finn and get back with Liam until she learned he wasn't going to leave Hope. I wonder what he would have thought if he knew that.


You can absolutely disagree with what she said. You can not believe her. My issue is with the idea that Finn just said I forgive you 2 seconds after she confessed and never brought it up again. That is not what happened.

He did forgive her pretty easily, though. And he put 99% of the blame on Liam.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Rena @, Landover, MD, 4/26/2023, 9:52AM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.


I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.


I gotta disagree.

Finn: But why do you wanna be with me, steffy?

Steffy: I can think of a million reasons why.

Finn: It can't be because liam's not available.

Steffy: It's--it's not. I like who I am when I'm with you. Like when you hold me as I fall asleep, how gentle and kind you are with your patients knowing that you will drop anything to take care of someone. I feel safe with you. I love the way you listen to my daughter and you make her feel like the most important person in the world. You make me feel that way, too. I want that for this child, for our child.

Wouldn't a more satisfying answer have been for her to say, "It's you I want and you I love. Not Liam. I got caught up in something because I was drinking but I'm over him for good."? Not, "I like who I am when I'm with you."

Instead she talked about how he holds her when she falls asleep and how gentle and kind he is. How safe he makes her feel and how good he is for her child. That was no where close to being convincing that she was over Liam.

And then he gave her a pass and blamed it all on Liam. I mean, she was going to ditch Finn and get back with Liam until she learned he wasn't going to leave Hope. I wonder what he would have thought if he knew that.


You can absolutely disagree with what she said. You can not believe her. My issue is with the idea that Finn just said I forgive you 2 seconds after she confessed and never brought it up again. That is not what happened.


He did forgive her pretty easily, though. And he put 99% of the blame on Liam.

He did. I would have liked him to have made her sweat a little more. But that is not who Finn is. And of course, he put the blame on Liam. He loves Steffy, flaws and all. Liam, not so much lol He knows the history of Steffy, LIam and Hope and he felt that Liam took advantage of Steffy's residual feelings for him and pulled her into his delusion about Hope and Thomas. Nearly every woman has had a man that she was dumb as rock over. Liam is that man for Steffy.

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Today Finn was ushered out...

Drangonfly @, 4/26/2023, 9:59AM (374 days ago) @Rena

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.


I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.


I gotta disagree.

Finn: But why do you wanna be with me, steffy?

Steffy: I can think of a million reasons why.

Finn: It can't be because liam's not available.

Steffy: It's--it's not. I like who I am when I'm with you. Like when you hold me as I fall asleep, how gentle and kind you are with your patients knowing that you will drop anything to take care of someone. I feel safe with you. I love the way you listen to my daughter and you make her feel like the most important person in the world. You make me feel that way, too. I want that for this child, for our child.

Wouldn't a more satisfying answer have been for her to say, "It's you I want and you I love. Not Liam. I got caught up in something because I was drinking but I'm over him for good."? Not, "I like who I am when I'm with you."

Instead she talked about how he holds her when she falls asleep and how gentle and kind he is. How safe he makes her feel and how good he is for her child. That was no where close to being convincing that she was over Liam.

And then he gave her a pass and blamed it all on Liam. I mean, she was going to ditch Finn and get back with Liam until she learned he wasn't going to leave Hope. I wonder what he would have thought if he knew that.


You can absolutely disagree with what she said. You can not believe her. My issue is with the idea that Finn just said I forgive you 2 seconds after she confessed and never brought it up again. That is not what happened.


He did forgive her pretty easily, though. And he put 99% of the blame on Liam.


He did. I would have liked him to have made her sweat a little more. But that is not who Finn is. And of course, he put the blame on Liam. He loves Steffy, flaws and all. Liam, not so much lol He knows the history of Steffy, LIam and Hope and he felt that Liam took advantage of Steffy's residual feelings for him and pulled her into his delusion about Hope and Thomas. Nearly every woman has had a man that she was dumb as rock over. Liam is that man for Steffy.

That makes sense. I have another theory. One that involves the writing. I think Bell will always leave that door open, just a little bit, for the triangle to return. It's why he teases the viewers with the sweet husband and suppressed true love lines. And it's why Liam never speaks harshly to Steffy to her face for all the times she hurt his wife. I think that triangle will be hanging over our heads till the end of time. :-D

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Rena @, Landover, MD, 4/26/2023, 10:14AM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.


I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.


I gotta disagree.

Finn: But why do you wanna be with me, steffy?

Steffy: I can think of a million reasons why.

Finn: It can't be because liam's not available.

Steffy: It's--it's not. I like who I am when I'm with you. Like when you hold me as I fall asleep, how gentle and kind you are with your patients knowing that you will drop anything to take care of someone. I feel safe with you. I love the way you listen to my daughter and you make her feel like the most important person in the world. You make me feel that way, too. I want that for this child, for our child.

Wouldn't a more satisfying answer have been for her to say, "It's you I want and you I love. Not Liam. I got caught up in something because I was drinking but I'm over him for good."? Not, "I like who I am when I'm with you."

Instead she talked about how he holds her when she falls asleep and how gentle and kind he is. How safe he makes her feel and how good he is for her child. That was no where close to being convincing that she was over Liam.

And then he gave her a pass and blamed it all on Liam. I mean, she was going to ditch Finn and get back with Liam until she learned he wasn't going to leave Hope. I wonder what he would have thought if he knew that.


You can absolutely disagree with what she said. You can not believe her. My issue is with the idea that Finn just said I forgive you 2 seconds after she confessed and never brought it up again. That is not what happened.


He did forgive her pretty easily, though. And he put 99% of the blame on Liam.


He did. I would have liked him to have made her sweat a little more. But that is not who Finn is. And of course, he put the blame on Liam. He loves Steffy, flaws and all. Liam, not so much lol He knows the history of Steffy, LIam and Hope and he felt that Liam took advantage of Steffy's residual feelings for him and pulled her into his delusion about Hope and Thomas. Nearly every woman has had a man that she was dumb as rock over. Liam is that man for Steffy.


That makes sense. I have another theory. One that involves the writing. I think Bell will always leave that door open, just a little bit, for the triangle to return. It's why he teases the viewers with the sweet husband and suppressed true love lines. And it's why Liam never speaks harshly to Steffy to her face for all the times she hurt his wife. I think that triangle will be hanging over our heads till the end of time. :-D

The horror!!!!!! :lol

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Today Finn was ushered out...

Drangonfly @, 4/26/2023, 10:17AM (374 days ago) @Rena

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.

Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.


I don't remember it that way.


I looked up the transcripts. That's the way it happened.


I gotta disagree.

Finn: But why do you wanna be with me, steffy?

Steffy: I can think of a million reasons why.

Finn: It can't be because liam's not available.

Steffy: It's--it's not. I like who I am when I'm with you. Like when you hold me as I fall asleep, how gentle and kind you are with your patients knowing that you will drop anything to take care of someone. I feel safe with you. I love the way you listen to my daughter and you make her feel like the most important person in the world. You make me feel that way, too. I want that for this child, for our child.

Wouldn't a more satisfying answer have been for her to say, "It's you I want and you I love. Not Liam. I got caught up in something because I was drinking but I'm over him for good."? Not, "I like who I am when I'm with you."

Instead she talked about how he holds her when she falls asleep and how gentle and kind he is. How safe he makes her feel and how good he is for her child. That was no where close to being convincing that she was over Liam.

And then he gave her a pass and blamed it all on Liam. I mean, she was going to ditch Finn and get back with Liam until she learned he wasn't going to leave Hope. I wonder what he would have thought if he knew that.


You can absolutely disagree with what she said. You can not believe her. My issue is with the idea that Finn just said I forgive you 2 seconds after she confessed and never brought it up again. That is not what happened.


He did forgive her pretty easily, though. And he put 99% of the blame on Liam.


He did. I would have liked him to have made her sweat a little more. But that is not who Finn is. And of course, he put the blame on Liam. He loves Steffy, flaws and all. Liam, not so much lol He knows the history of Steffy, LIam and Hope and he felt that Liam took advantage of Steffy's residual feelings for him and pulled her into his delusion about Hope and Thomas. Nearly every woman has had a man that she was dumb as rock over. Liam is that man for Steffy.


That makes sense. I have another theory. One that involves the writing. I think Bell will always leave that door open, just a little bit, for the triangle to return. It's why he teases the viewers with the sweet husband and suppressed true love lines. And it's why Liam never speaks harshly to Steffy to her face for all the times she hurt his wife. I think that triangle will be hanging over our heads till the end of time. :-D


The horror!!!!!! :lol

Right??? :gasp

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Fickledseptum @, 4/25/2023, 11:55PM (374 days ago) @Rena

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


It probably won't happen, but I'd like Finn to get out of this mess. Fiffy never really addressed the ONS thing. We know Liam slept with Steffy because he thought Hope spent the night with Thomas, but they never discussed why Steffy slept with him, let alone why she was so quick to believe she and Liam were going to reunite. She didn't think Finn was cheating on her so there can only be one explanation. I will never take Finn seriously as long as he is with Steffy. But I like the actor. If only he could ditch Steffy and find true love with a woman who doesn't settle for him and control him, I would enjoy his character a lot more.


Agree 100% on that point. Finn even point blank asked her if she would still be with him if Liam was available and she never answered him.


Yes she did. He told her that he would not be just a distraction from her complicated feelings regarding Hope and Liam. He point blank asked her WHY she wanted to be with him and pressed her for an answer. She said there were a million reasons and he in no uncertain terms said that it could not be just because Liam was unavailable. I don't know where this narrative is that he just folded like a souffle. He did not. They talked it out like adults. He asked the questions that needed to be asked and he accepted her answers.

She said what Finn wanted to hear because she knew she couldn't have Liam. If she was brutally honest with Finn and repeated all the things she told Liam, she knew she would have no one. So she lied.

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Tiqui1999 @, 4/25/2023, 7:23PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly- one person liked this

Finn is a prop like the mannequin.

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 8:04PM (374 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Finn is a prop like the mannequin.

Yup. A nice looking one, but a prop.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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GracieGirl, 4/25/2023, 7:28PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

It’s obvious something will happen but with this show we never know. Some things build on plot. Some things are for shock value.

Today Finn was ushered out...

BabyKelly, 4/25/2023, 8:16PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

Huge exaggeration, imo. This is only Steffy and Liam's second conversation in months, if I don't count the special episode 9000. They aren't working together nor spending nights together with the children (unlike a certain married woman). Just quick talks here and there. I enjoy their friendship. And happy to know Liam is spending time with Kelly.

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 9:10PM (374 days ago) @BabyKelly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


Huge exaggeration, imo. This is only Steffy and Liam's second conversation in months, if I don't count the special episode 9000. They aren't working together nor spending nights together with the children (unlike a certain married woman). Just quick talks here and there. I enjoy their friendship. And happy to know Liam is spending time with Kelly.

Not exaggerating. Just speculation.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

hopeyougogirl, 4/25/2023, 8:19PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

Fiffy just had their grand reunion in Monaco, so I don’t think Bell will want to mock their love story by having Leffy hook up in this story.

I think Steffy’s involvement will be that somehow she finds out that Hope’s fantasizing about her monster brother, and that witch will have no issues running her mouth to Liam. It’s none of her damn business, but deep down she would love nothing more to see Hope losing Liam and suffers heartbreak. Just my guess.

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Drangonfly @, 4/25/2023, 9:10PM (374 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


Fiffy just had their grand reunion in Monaco, so I don’t think Bell will want to mock their love story by having Leffy hook up in this story.

I think Steffy’s involvement will be that somehow she finds out that Hope’s fantasizing about her monster brother, and that witch will have no issues running her mouth to Liam. It’s none of her damn business, but deep down she would love nothing more to see Hope losing Liam and suffers heartbreak. Just my guess.

That would be my guess too.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Today Finn was ushered out...

matisse, 4/25/2023, 11:33PM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


Fiffy just had their grand reunion in Monaco, so I don’t think Bell will want to mock their love story by having Leffy hook up in this story.

I think Steffy’s involvement will be that somehow she finds out that Hope’s fantasizing about her monster brother, and that witch will have no issues running her mouth to Liam. It’s none of her damn business, but deep down she would love nothing more to see Hope losing Liam and suffers heartbreak. Just my guess.


That would be my guess too.

I think it could be that Steffy runs to Liam with what she overhears or sees, and then they do the deed again. And, Lope may break up, but I also think Hope is not going to sleep with Tom, and Steffy will blow up her marriage to Finn, and then Hope will be pregnant by Liam, and not even need a paternity test, because she never slept with Tom. Then Liam is either going to have to return to his pregnant wife that did not cheat on him, and dump Steffy and she will be all alone again, or he will have to stay with Steffy and then wallow in guilt over Hope. Tom may end up getting with Hope because Steffy and Liam cheat, and he may end up being the live-in father to Lope's new baby. Which will make this one hot soapy mess. Liam has been the live-in step-dad to Tom's son for a long time. Now maybe it will Tom's turn to be the live-in step-dad to Liam's new child. But, this would be one twisted mess. Leffy would have their daughter Kelly, and maybe Lope's daughter Beth. I doubt Finn will just hand over his son Hayes to Liam to raise. Tom and Hope will have Douglas, and maybe Beth (but I hope not because Tom abused her) and they will be raising Lope's new baby together. LOL.

Personally I hope that if Leffy cheats again, Hope runs straight to Finn and tells him, she can be a big old gossip just like Steffy. Then maybe we will be getting Leffy and Hinn. Then Leffy can have Kelly, and Hinn can raise Beth and Hayes.

Today Finn was ushered out...

Dreamgirl, 4/25/2023, 11:41PM (374 days ago) @matisse

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


Fiffy just had their grand reunion in Monaco, so I don’t think Bell will want to mock their love story by having Leffy hook up in this story.

I think Steffy’s involvement will be that somehow she finds out that Hope’s fantasizing about her monster brother, and that witch will have no issues running her mouth to Liam. It’s none of her damn business, but deep down she would love nothing more to see Hope losing Liam and suffers heartbreak. Just my guess.


That would be my guess too.


I think it could be that Steffy runs to Liam with what she overhears or sees, and then they do the deed again. And, Lope may break up, but I also think Hope is not going to sleep with Tom, and Steffy will blow up her marriage to Finn, and then Hope will be pregnant by Liam, and not even need a paternity test, because she never slept with Tom. Then Liam is either going to have to return to his pregnant wife that did not cheat on him, and dump Steffy and she will be all alone again, or he will have to stay with Steffy and then wallow in guilt over Hope. Tom may end up getting with Hope because Steffy and Liam cheat, and he may end up being the live-in father to Lope's new baby. Which will make this one hot soapy mess. Liam has been the live-in step-dad to Tom's son for a long time. Now maybe it will Tom's turn to be the live-in step-dad to Liam's new child. But, this would be one twisted mess. Leffy would have their daughter Kelly, and maybe Lope's daughter Beth. I doubt Finn will just hand over his son Hayes to Liam to raise. Tom and Hope will have Douglas, and maybe Beth (but I hope not because Tom abused her) and they will be raising Lope's new baby together. LOL.

Personally I hope that if Leffy cheats again, Hope runs straight to Finn and tells him, she can be a big old gossip just like Steffy. Then maybe we will be getting Leffy and Hinn. Then Leffy can have Kelly, and Hinn can raise Beth and Hayes.

But Finn hasn’t minded her cheating twice now. Why would he mind if she cheats again?

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Drangonfly @, 4/26/2023, 6:46AM (374 days ago) @matisse

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


Fiffy just had their grand reunion in Monaco, so I don’t think Bell will want to mock their love story by having Leffy hook up in this story.

I think Steffy’s involvement will be that somehow she finds out that Hope’s fantasizing about her monster brother, and that witch will have no issues running her mouth to Liam. It’s none of her damn business, but deep down she would love nothing more to see Hope losing Liam and suffers heartbreak. Just my guess.


That would be my guess too.


I think it could be that Steffy runs to Liam with what she overhears or sees, and then they do the deed again. And, Lope may break up, but I also think Hope is not going to sleep with Tom, and Steffy will blow up her marriage to Finn, and then Hope will be pregnant by Liam, and not even need a paternity test, because she never slept with Tom. Then Liam is either going to have to return to his pregnant wife that did not cheat on him, and dump Steffy and she will be all alone again, or he will have to stay with Steffy and then wallow in guilt over Hope. Tom may end up getting with Hope because Steffy and Liam cheat, and he may end up being the live-in father to Lope's new baby. Which will make this one hot soapy mess. Liam has been the live-in step-dad to Tom's son for a long time. Now maybe it will Tom's turn to be the live-in step-dad to Liam's new child. But, this would be one twisted mess. Leffy would have their daughter Kelly, and maybe Lope's daughter Beth. I doubt Finn will just hand over his son Hayes to Liam to raise. Tom and Hope will have Douglas, and maybe Beth (but I hope not because Tom abused her) and they will be raising Lope's new baby together. LOL.

Personally I hope that if Leffy cheats again, Hope runs straight to Finn and tells him, she can be a big old gossip just like Steffy. Then maybe we will be getting Leffy and Hinn. Then Leffy can have Kelly, and Hinn can raise Beth and Hayes.

My head is spinning. :-D

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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ClemaxDna @, 4/26/2023, 12:39AM (374 days ago) @Drangonfly

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.

I won't complain. The Sinn moments are fillers at this point. They get a scene here and there but they have no storyline without Sheila. The actors looked bored in this scene. Even the make out looked forced. Zero passion in this kiss.

I don't think Steffy and Liam will cross the line as long as he is married to Hope. But this kind of episode gives a clear picture of what will/would happen if Hope and Thomas end up together. Liam and Steffy spending more time with Kelly, bonding on the couch, remembering the good times while Finn isn't home. She has to set some boundaries, but she won't.

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Drangonfly @, 4/26/2023, 6:49AM (374 days ago) @ClemaxDna

...so Steffy and Liam could have scenes alone together.

They did the obligatory making out stuff and then he was outta there.

There are just too many things foreshadowing Steffy being involved in the Hope/Liam/Thomas story to ignore, IMO. I don't know if there will be cheating, a realignment of the couples, or some kind of manipulation, but there is a reason Finn got a promotion, and a reason why Liam and Steffy have had several conversations about the same topic.

Liam used to talk to Brooke about Thomas. So much so that rumors were swirling that the two of them would hook up. Now it's scene after scene of Liam and Steffy, with Finn being removed from the situation via his new position at work. I don't know what we're getting, but we're getting...something.


I won't complain. The Sinn moments are fillers at this point. They get a scene here and there but they have no storyline without Sheila. The actors looked bored in this scene. Even the make out looked forced. Zero passion in this kiss.

I don't think Steffy and Liam will cross the line as long as he is married to Hope. But this kind of episode gives a clear picture of what will/would happen if Hope and Thomas end up together. Liam and Steffy spending more time with Kelly, bonding on the couch, remembering the good times while Finn isn't home. She has to set some boundaries, but she won't.

I wish we would get more clues as to which way it's going. I'm pretty sure Steffy will be involved, though. Most likely scheming again. I think she would jump at the chance to hurt Hope, whether she winds up back with Liam or not.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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