Hope's daydreaming (General)

Viola, 4/6/2023, 4:21PM (388 days ago)- one person liked this

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 4:32PM (388 days ago) @Viola

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Viola, 4/6/2023, 4:36PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.

She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 5:01PM (388 days ago) @Viola

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.

Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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B&Bfan1980, 4/6/2023, 6:16PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.

Hmmm Maybe. I don't think she is a cheater so that could be it. Also, there is still the Sheila & Deacon stuff that I believe will come out. So

It seems silly because there are far worse things than being like Brooke but hearing her mom share her regrets about her choices could play into that thinking.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 7:24PM (388 days ago) @B&Bfan1980

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


Hmmm Maybe. I don't think she is a cheater so that could be it. Also, there is still the Sheila & Deacon stuff that I believe will come out. So

It seems silly because there are far worse things than being like Brooke but hearing her mom share her regrets about her choices could play into that thinking.

But it was silly the first time she got into the anxiety pills too..because Steffy bullied a virgin Hope that if Hope won’t have sex with her fiancé Liam, easy Steffy would sex him. So, Hope went against her values and did the deed with fiancé Liam, but got ridiculed because of her HFTF message plus the paparazzis were onto her..she felt a lot pressure.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Drangonfly @, 4/6/2023, 6:24PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.

It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 7:29PM (388 days ago) @Drangonfly

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".

Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Drangonfly @, 4/6/2023, 7:44PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.

Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Vik., 4/6/2023, 7:54PM (388 days ago) @Drangonfly

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.

But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.

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Drangonfly @, 4/6/2023, 8:11PM (388 days ago) @Vik.

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.

Meh. She wanted to work with Thomas because he's the best designer for her line and so she is. She can make the decision on whether or not she believes Thomas has changed. Liam can be as upset about it as he wants, and I don't really blame him, but he can't dictate to her.

I don't really worry about something being "on her". If she messes up, she messes up. What would that mean? That she's suddenly being written as a villain? Highly doubt it. #TeamHope #TeamLope

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Hope's daydreaming

Vik., 4/6/2023, 8:30PM (388 days ago) @Drangonfly

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Meh. She wanted to work with Thomas because he's the best designer for her line and so she is. She can make the decision on whether or not she believes Thomas has changed. Liam can be as upset about it as he wants, and I don't really blame him, but he can't dictate to her.

I don't really worry about something being "on her". If she messes up, she messes up. What would that mean? That she's suddenly being written as a villain? Highly doubt it. #TeamHope #TeamLope

She wants to work with Thomas because she wants to be close to him. Why did she make Liam promise in the first place? Only to do the opposite 1h later. Hard to buy that their relationship is "strickly professional" like she claims, after those last 2 episodes. If this was prfessionnal, she would have considered another option. Why can't she start her own line? She hasn't even TRIED to look for another designer. She hasn't even considered asking Bill or Brooke to fund a new line. She rehired Thomas in the blink of an eye, without giving Liam's feelings any consideration. As usual I should say.

She isn't going to mess up if she does the right thing now. The cards are still in her hands. She can fire him like she said she would. Or at least ask other models to design. Just because they work together doesn't mean they have to spend hours and hours alone together behind closed doors. I work in a large company with over 10,000K employees, I don't interact with them. Having Douglas together doesn't mean they have to spend so much time together. My sister and her ex-husband have 2 sons together. They only see each other every 2 weekends, for 5 minutes. If Hope feels attracted to Thomas, she can do just that. Send the nanny to pick up Douglas and send models when Thomas needs one. It's not more complicated.

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Drangonfly @, 4/6/2023, 8:41PM (388 days ago) @Vik.

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Meh. She wanted to work with Thomas because he's the best designer for her line and so she is. She can make the decision on whether or not she believes Thomas has changed. Liam can be as upset about it as he wants, and I don't really blame him, but he can't dictate to her.

I don't really worry about something being "on her". If she messes up, she messes up. What would that mean? That she's suddenly being written as a villain? Highly doubt it. #TeamHope #TeamLope


She wants to work with Thomas because she wants to be close to him. Why did she make Liam promise in the first place? Only to do the opposite 1h later. Hard to buy that their relationship is "strickly professional" like she claims, after those last 2 episodes. If this was prfessionnal, she would have considered another option. Why can't she start her own line? She hasn't even TRIED to look for another designer. She hasn't even considered asking Bill or Brooke to fund a new line. She rehired Thomas in the blink of an eye, without giving Liam's feelings any consideration. As usual I should say.

She isn't going to mess up if she does the right thing now. The cards are still in her hands. She can fire him like she said she would. Or at least ask other models to design. Just because they work together doesn't mean they have to spend hours and hours alone together behind closed doors. I work in a large company with over 10,000K employees, I don't interact with them. Having Douglas together doesn't mean they have to spend so much time together. My sister and her ex-husband have 2 sons together. They only see each other every 2 weekends, for 5 minutes. If Hope feels attracted to Thomas, she can do just that. Send the nanny to pick up Douglas and send models when Thomas needs one. It's not more complicated.

She made the promise to Liam but then she changed her mind after hearing Brooke and Taylor's opinion. She's allowed to change her mind. I don't see why she should fire Thomas if he really has changed.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Hope's daydreaming

Liz @, 4/6/2023, 9:05PM (388 days ago) @Drangonfly

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Meh. She wanted to work with Thomas because he's the best designer for her line and so she is. She can make the decision on whether or not she believes Thomas has changed. Liam can be as upset about it as he wants, and I don't really blame him, but he can't dictate to her.

I don't really worry about something being "on her". If she messes up, she messes up. What would that mean? That she's suddenly being written as a villain? Highly doubt it. #TeamHope #TeamLope


She wants to work with Thomas because she wants to be close to him. Why did she make Liam promise in the first place? Only to do the opposite 1h later. Hard to buy that their relationship is "strickly professional" like she claims, after those last 2 episodes. If this was prfessionnal, she would have considered another option. Why can't she start her own line? She hasn't even TRIED to look for another designer. She hasn't even considered asking Bill or Brooke to fund a new line. She rehired Thomas in the blink of an eye, without giving Liam's feelings any consideration. As usual I should say.

She isn't going to mess up if she does the right thing now. The cards are still in her hands. She can fire him like she said she would. Or at least ask other models to design. Just because they work together doesn't mean they have to spend hours and hours alone together behind closed doors. I work in a large company with over 10,000K employees, I don't interact with them. Having Douglas together doesn't mean they have to spend so much time together. My sister and her ex-husband have 2 sons together. They only see each other every 2 weekends, for 5 minutes. If Hope feels attracted to Thomas, she can do just that. Send the nanny to pick up Douglas and send models when Thomas needs one. It's not more complicated.


She made the promise to Liam but then she changed her mind after hearing Brooke and Taylor's opinion. She's allowed to change her mind. I don't see why she should fire Thomas if he really has changed.

IMO, when she changed her mind, she should have talked with Liam again before she said anything to Steffy and Thomas. I also feel that what Brooke and Taylor told her should have been irrelevant. She had already made a commitment to her husband and in extension to her family not to work with Thomas.

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Drangonfly @, 4/6/2023, 9:07PM (388 days ago) @Liz

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.

She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Meh. She wanted to work with Thomas because he's the best designer for her line and so she is. She can make the decision on whether or not she believes Thomas has changed. Liam can be as upset about it as he wants, and I don't really blame him, but he can't dictate to her.

I don't really worry about something being "on her". If she messes up, she messes up. What would that mean? That she's suddenly being written as a villain? Highly doubt it. #TeamHope #TeamLope


She wants to work with Thomas because she wants to be close to him. Why did she make Liam promise in the first place? Only to do the opposite 1h later. Hard to buy that their relationship is "strickly professional" like she claims, after those last 2 episodes. If this was prfessionnal, she would have considered another option. Why can't she start her own line? She hasn't even TRIED to look for another designer. She hasn't even considered asking Bill or Brooke to fund a new line. She rehired Thomas in the blink of an eye, without giving Liam's feelings any consideration. As usual I should say.

She isn't going to mess up if she does the right thing now. The cards are still in her hands. She can fire him like she said she would. Or at least ask other models to design. Just because they work together doesn't mean they have to spend hours and hours alone together behind closed doors. I work in a large company with over 10,000K employees, I don't interact with them. Having Douglas together doesn't mean they have to spend so much time together. My sister and her ex-husband have 2 sons together. They only see each other every 2 weekends, for 5 minutes. If Hope feels attracted to Thomas, she can do just that. Send the nanny to pick up Douglas and send models when Thomas needs one. It's not more complicated.


She made the promise to Liam but then she changed her mind after hearing Brooke and Taylor's opinion. She's allowed to change her mind. I don't see why she should fire Thomas if he really has changed.


IMO, when she changed her mind, she should have talked with Liam again before she said anything to Steffy and Thomas. I also feel that what Brooke and Taylor told her should have been irrelevant. She had already made a commitment to her husband and in extension to her family not to work with Thomas.

Well, Liam is her husband, not her keeper. She apologized to him for changing her mind and not telling him and they were fine after that.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Liz @, 4/6/2023, 9:56PM (388 days ago) @Drangonfly

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.

She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.

Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Meh. She wanted to work with Thomas because he's the best designer for her line and so she is. She can make the decision on whether or not she believes Thomas has changed. Liam can be as upset about it as he wants, and I don't really blame him, but he can't dictate to her.

I don't really worry about something being "on her". If she messes up, she messes up. What would that mean? That she's suddenly being written as a villain? Highly doubt it. #TeamHope #TeamLope


She wants to work with Thomas because she wants to be close to him. Why did she make Liam promise in the first place? Only to do the opposite 1h later. Hard to buy that their relationship is "strickly professional" like she claims, after those last 2 episodes. If this was prfessionnal, she would have considered another option. Why can't she start her own line? She hasn't even TRIED to look for another designer. She hasn't even considered asking Bill or Brooke to fund a new line. She rehired Thomas in the blink of an eye, without giving Liam's feelings any consideration. As usual I should say.

She isn't going to mess up if she does the right thing now. The cards are still in her hands. She can fire him like she said she would. Or at least ask other models to design. Just because they work together doesn't mean they have to spend hours and hours alone together behind closed doors. I work in a large company with over 10,000K employees, I don't interact with them. Having Douglas together doesn't mean they have to spend so much time together. My sister and her ex-husband have 2 sons together. They only see each other every 2 weekends, for 5 minutes. If Hope feels attracted to Thomas, she can do just that. Send the nanny to pick up Douglas and send models when Thomas needs one. It's not more complicated.


She made the promise to Liam but then she changed her mind after hearing Brooke and Taylor's opinion. She's allowed to change her mind. I don't see why she should fire Thomas if he really has changed.


IMO, when she changed her mind, she should have talked with Liam again before she said anything to Steffy and Thomas. I also feel that what Brooke and Taylor told her should have been irrelevant. She had already made a commitment to her husband and in extension to her family not to work with Thomas.


Well, Liam is her husband, not her keeper. She apologized to him for changing her mind and not telling him and they were fine after that.

That's right. Liam IS her husband. Unfortunately, she forgets that time and again.

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krort @, 4/6/2023, 9:04PM (388 days ago) @Vik.

Vik said"<<<<<<She isn't going to mess up if she does the right thing now. The cards are still in her hands. She can fire him like she said she would. Or at least ask other models to design. Just because they work together doesn't mean they have to spend hours and hours alone together behind closed doors. I work in a large company with over 10,000K employees, I don't interact with them. Having Douglas together doesn't mean they have to spend so much time together. My sister and her ex-husband have 2 sons together. They only see each other every 2 weekends, for 5 minutes. If Hope feels attracted to Thomas, she can do just that. Send the nanny to pick up Douglas and send models when Thomas needs one. It's not more complicated.>>>>

I agree. Even before I read your comments, I always thought Forrester is big enough for both of them without living together. For me, I would have let Thomas go and found another designer, but she thinks she can trust him now, he is the best she thinks so she kept him.

But they do NOT have to work that closely all day long together and in the SAME office.
He needs an office alone so he can concentrate and design. Her contribution comes in elsewhere to
promote her line, her message to her fans etc. The models can try on and Thomas make changes if he needs to, he does not need Hope for that.

And I think it goes without saying that other people outside of Forrester, like Liam, the husband for instance should not be barging in and coming upon what he saw today.


Wanda

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 8:22PM (388 days ago) @Vik.

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.

Steffy’s ultimatum was Thomas ONLY or no line..there’s no other options for her line..only 2 choices for her line.

And she told Deacon if anything weird happened, Thomas is gone. She meant if Thomas actually act out something inappropriate..and the accidental fall is not it..neither is her 1 non kiss fantasy it either.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Vik., 4/6/2023, 10:28PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Steffy’s ultimatum was Thomas ONLY or no line..there’s no other options for her line..only 2 choices for her line.

And she told Deacon if anything weird happened, Thomas is gone. She meant if Thomas actually act out something inappropriate..and the accidental fall is not it..neither is her 1 non kiss fantasy it either.

That long longing look Thomas gave her after she fell wasn't inappropriate? He had enough time to pull away before Liam walked in, he didn't. Bad-mouthing her mom when he's responsible for the end of her marriage isn't inappropriate? Wow. Seems like Hope is making up excuses for him :lol

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 10:38PM (388 days ago) @Vik.

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.


She could have him since 2012... But she constantly rejected him. Even when she was married to him she couldn't force herself to sleep with him and now all of a sudden she has a fantasy about kissing him? The writers are so weak.


Agree..first, out of nowhere Brooke made that bad boy comment. Then out of nowhere, Hope suddenly has this G rated fantasy. I’m starting to wonder if Lope’s unique story is that Hope becomes anxious again and starts to take those anxiety pills again? Because she’s afraid to turned into her mother plus all these pressure from Liam about Thomas. Then Liam has to help her overcome her anxiety issues? Just my guess.


It's going to be something like that. That was obvious to me when at the end of the show Hope looked over at the pic of her and Brooke and remembered Brooke's words to her about "bad boys".


Yeah, and she said at the very end scene..what’s happening to me? She’s stressed! So, if the story is going this direction, then it’s not really about Thomas. It would be more about how Lope deal with her anxiety issues. JMO.


Yeah, I highly doubt we're going to get a big Thope romance. It's just more angst for Lope. And if Hope finds that she's fighting feelings for Thomas, so what? She looked horrified at the thought of it. Brooke put the suggestion in her head about the "bad boy" thing and then Liam put pressure on her to get rid of Thomas. Wouldn't shock me if this story will be about Hope being in turmoil. Maybe she's sick of being pressured and wants to break out a little. Good for her.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Steffy’s ultimatum was Thomas ONLY or no line..there’s no other options for her line..only 2 choices for her line.

And she told Deacon if anything weird happened, Thomas is gone. She meant if Thomas actually act out something inappropriate..and the accidental fall is not it..neither is her 1 non kiss fantasy it either.


That long longing look Thomas gave her after she fell wasn't inappropriate? He had enough time to pull away before Liam walked in, he didn't. Bad-mouthing her mom when he's responsible for the end of her marriage isn't inappropriate? Wow. Seems like Hope is making up excuses for him :lol

The fall wasn’t planned and caught them both by surprise. And since he’s been back to design, I haven’t seen Thomas bad mouth to Hope about her mother. Hope wasn’t around when he bad mouth Brooke to his own family. LOL.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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moonlightof1982, 4/6/2023, 10:12PM (388 days ago) @Vik.


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.

Why should Thomas get fired for this? Since he's been back at FC, he's acted with respect and kindness toward Hope, and everyone else there. He hasn't pursued Hope in a romantic manner and showed restraint against Liam's insults and physical attacks. His designs have been well-received, appreciated, and complimented. Hope is catching feelings for Thomas, but that is not his fault. He shouldn't be fired for Hope's desires.

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Vik., 4/6/2023, 10:24PM (388 days ago) @moonlightof1982


But she put herself in this position. Time and time again. She had other options for her line (look for another designer, start a new line... her BIL is a billionnaire, she has all the funds she needs). Kind of hard to feel sorry for her or see her as a victim if she has some turnoil or mental breakdown. All she had to do is keep her distance with Thomas and put her family first, like she repeatedly vowed. It wasn't more complicated. I felt a bit sorry for her the first time she forgave Thomas and he disappointed her again... but not anymore. Not after this 4th, 5th, 6th time Liam and Brooke proved her wrong. It was only a few weeks ago that Thomas torpedooed her mom's marriage and abused her son yet again. Probably less than a few weeks in daytime. And now she's praising him and acting like they've always been best friends. This is on her. She just told Deacon that if anything weird happens, Thomas will be gone for good. Something weird happened today. She had 2 fantasies. Will she fire Thomas like she said she would? If she doesn't, then that's on her. You don't work with someone who is madly in love with you, let alone if you realize you also have some feelings for him. It's in her hands now. No more victim Hope.


Why should Thomas get fired for this? Since he's been back at FC, he's acted with respect and kindness toward Hope, and everyone else there. He hasn't pursued Hope in a romantic manner and showed restraint against Liam's insults and physical attacks. His designs have been well-received, appreciated, and complimented. Hope is catching feelings for Thomas, but that is not his fault. He shouldn't be fired for Hope's desires.

Respect? He just lied to her face. Told his psy that he still loves Hope but when she asked him yesterday, he lied. Why? Because the reason why she rehired him was based on a lie. She did because he told her he doesn't have feelings anymore. It's obviously another lie.
He just had more Thope flashbacks a few episodes ago.
He is still bad-mouthing Brooke even if he's the one who ruined her marriage
Still worrying Ridge might go back to Brooke.
Encouraged Douglas' wish to see his parent together.
Still keeping so many secrets from Hope, like his recent involment with Sheila. I don't see the respect here. Come clean about all his other crimes and I may buy that he regrets his mistakes.

And there was nothing respectful or kind in that scene today. As soon as Hope fell on him, he should have pulled away and stood up. Both Thomas and Hope were extremely disrespectfful and unkind.

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Barbybo, 4/6/2023, 6:28PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Yeah, it was weird. She's never shown to have any romantic feelings for Thomas, then after her mother makes one "bad boy" comment and suddenly she has this non-kiss fantasy that came out of nowhere. The writing on this show makes no sense most of the times.

She fell into his lap

probably gave her a rush….this Hope is much more interesting minus Liam she has spunk and she ain’t letting Liam ruin her career

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PatriotGirl @, 4/6/2023, 4:57PM (388 days ago) @Viola

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

Probably to show that Hope is getting more of a connection to him than just work now. I'll be curious to see if she has another fantasy tomorrow especially if her romantic night goes awry. :lol

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Viola, 4/6/2023, 4:58PM (388 days ago) @PatriotGirl- one person liked this

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Probably to show that Hope is getting more of a connection to him than just work now. I'll be curious to see if she has another fantasy tomorrow especially if her romantic night goes awry. :lol

Or she's scared that she could end up with a bad guy like her mommy Brooke that ended up with guys like Ridge or Deacon and wasted years of her life.

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IW, 4/6/2023, 5:07PM (388 days ago) @PatriotGirl- 2 people liked this
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Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Probably to show that Hope is getting more of a connection to him than just work now. I'll be curious to see if she has another fantasy tomorrow especially if her romantic night goes awry. :lol

As long as she doesn't end up sexing Thomas on a couch telling him he will always be her greatest gift and wishing they could finally be together, I won't worry about Lope that much. I hate the thought that she may have feelings for Thomas, but at the end of the day I'm pretty sure it's just Lope angst. She fell much harder for Wyatt and I know how it ended, it won't be much different with Thomas. If it means more front burner screen time for Lope and less for Fiffy, I'm all for it. SC and AN were great today. It's about time they're allowed to shine again. Their last big storyline was a big ratings hit and got B&B an Emmy, maybe this one will too. :dance2

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 5:11PM (388 days ago) @IW- one person liked this

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.


Probably to show that Hope is getting more of a connection to him than just work now. I'll be curious to see if she has another fantasy tomorrow especially if her romantic night goes awry. :lol


As long as she doesn't end up sexing Thomas on a couch telling him he will always be her greatest gift and wishing they could finally be together, I won't worry about Lope that much. I hate the thought that she may have feelings for Thomas, but at the end of the day I'm pretty sure it's just Lope angst. She fell much harder for Wyatt and I know how it ended, it won't be much different with Thomas. If it means more front burner screen time for Lope and less for Fiffy, I'm all for it. SC and AN were great today. It's about time they're allowed to shine again. Their last big storyline got B&B an Emmy, maybe this one will too. :dance2

Totally agree. AN and SC were fantastic today..loved their dialogue! Personally, I think Bell knows what he can get out of his golden young couple. :dance1 JMO.

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Lizzy54 @, Austria, 4/6/2023, 5:48PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Yes, this was 1st class acting! :cool

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hopeyougogirl, 4/6/2023, 5:52PM (388 days ago) @Lizzy54

Yes, this was 1st class acting! :cool

Lope’s story and Lope’s songs won Bell Emmys! Lope is the only young couple that won Bell Emmys. :dance2

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Barbybo, 4/6/2023, 9:36PM (388 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Yes, this was 1st class acting! :cool


Lope’s story and Lope’s songs won Bell Emmys! Lope is the only young couple that won Bell Emmys. :dance2

Lately they are a drag although Hope could get interesting now if she grows up and tells her watch dogs she’s a grown woman back off…..great love story he cheats she wants him anyway yuck

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Barbybo, 4/6/2023, 6:30PM (388 days ago) @Lizzy54

Yes, this was 1st class acting! :cool

I think she’s falling for tom the more they bond the closer they get..bye bye couch sitter liam

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GracieGirl, 4/6/2023, 10:17PM (388 days ago) @IW

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Hit-Girl, 4/6/2023, 5:34PM (388 days ago) @Viola- one person liked this

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

Havent watched yet but it sucks if true! I'm a big THOPE shipper, and I know there is a good chance I'll never get my wish! So if all I'm gonna get is fantasies, I hope they will write new ones and passionate ones! Not a former fantasy from last year they're using again, please! Give us at least one sexy love scene, even if it's only in Hope's or Thomas' mind!

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B&Bfan1980, 4/6/2023, 6:08PM (388 days ago) @Viola

Why did she think of the scene that was literally Thomas's imagination on the show?! lol It makes no sense. It happened only in Thomas's mind and suddenly it's in Hope's mind? Nice re-write.

They didn't show the kiss though. I think everything really happened except the kiss.

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Crzyideas, 4/6/2023, 7:11PM (388 days ago) @B&Bfan1980

Hope for tge futures message is goodness and empowerment and doing the right thing and making this world a better place. How does this fit with her message. Come on B&B come up with something that makes sense. This isn't it.

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Barbybo, 4/6/2023, 8:11PM (388 days ago) @Crzyideas

Hope for tge futures message is goodness and empowerment and doing the right thing and making this world a better place. How does this fit with her message. Come on B&B come up with something that makes sense. This isn't it.

Change the name simple it was a teen line she’s no teen..maybe Hope new beginnings

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Crzyideas, 4/6/2023, 8:48PM (388 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

Hope and Thomas keep talking about Hope's vision. So that's her message and vision, to be on the fringes of adultery like every other married couple on B&B?

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Barbybo, 4/7/2023, 6:47AM (387 days ago) @Crzyideas- one person liked this

Hope and Thomas keep talking about Hope's vision. So that's her message and vision, to be on the fringes of adultery like every other married couple on B&B?

I don’t know why anyone buying dresses would give a hoot about Hopes vision message ect….you buy what looks good on you

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q, 4/7/2023, 11:40AM (387 days ago) @Barbybo

Hope and Thomas keep talking about Hope's vision. So that's her message and vision, to be on the fringes of adultery like every other married couple on B&B?


I don’t know why anyone buying dresses would give a hoot about Hopes vision message ect….you buy what looks good on you

There are brands that I will not buy because of belifs that some manufacturers have. I know others that don't buy particular brands.

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