Bill, ruined (General)

QueenSteph, 12/29/2022, 6:32AM (491 days ago)

First he tampers with evidence regarding the Vinny accident. Then commits a hit & run. Bullies Liam and lands them both in jail. But still, everyone forgave him and Thomas saved his butt from jail.

Then he professes his undying love first to Brooke and then to Katie. Just minutes apart.

Next he does a 180 regarding Sheila and protects her from jail. After she tried to kill the mother of his granddaughter Kelly.

How is this character now not a joke? Feeling sorry for himself is pathetic. It was Bill who dumped Katie for Brooke. Twice or even more. It was Bill who bullied Liam and almost blew him up in that building. It was Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber thinking she was carrying his grandbaby. It was Bill that ruthlessly stole Forrester Creations. It was Bill who tried his best to ruin Liam & Steffy to get Steffy for himself. Yet people forgave him. Bill's pity party is the biggest joke. He's lucky he's not been sent to prison and lost contact with everyone.

Now he thinks Sheila deserves a "second" chance. How many second chances does a person get? Sheila should be around her nintieth chance by now. Last chance she got was a year ago when Taylor invited her for Christmas. It didn't take her long to blow it. First with the champagne label and then double shootings.

Bill is one pathetic & ruined character.

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Barbybo, 12/29/2022, 6:41AM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph

First he tampers with evidence regarding the Vinny accident. Then commits a hit & run. Bullies Liam and lands them both in jail. But still, everyone forgave him and Thomas saved his butt from jail.

Then he professes his undying love first to Brooke and then to Katie. Just minutes apart.

Next he does a 180 regarding Sheila and protects her from jail. After she tried to kill the mother of his granddaughter Kelly.

How is this character now not a joke? Feeling sorry for himself is pathetic. It was Bill who dumped Katie for Brooke. Twice or even more. It was Bill who bullied Liam and almost blew him up in that building. It was Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber thinking she was carrying his grandbaby. It was Bill that ruthlessly stole Forrester Creations. It was Bill who tried his best to ruin Liam & Steffy to get Steffy for himself. Yet people forgave him. Bill's pity party is the biggest joke. He's lucky he's not been sent to prison and lost contact with everyone.

Now he thinks Sheila deserves a "second" chance. How many second chances does a person get? Sheila should be around her nintieth chance by now. Last chance she got was a year ago when Taylor invited her for Christmas. It didn't take her long to blow it. First with the champagne label and then double shootings.

Bill is one pathetic & ruined character.

Just his turn under the bus

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brill1, 12/29/2022, 7:33AM (491 days ago) @Barbybo- one person liked this

Bill has always been a little on the shady side.
He tried to kill Amber year's Ago, he went to the prison to get Deacon out, locked Katie in a room to keep her quiet and used people to manipulate things his way. He became a little softer but deep down he is more on the evil side.

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Barbybo, 12/29/2022, 7:42AM (491 days ago) @brill1

Bill has always been a little on the shady side.
He tried to kill Amber year's Ago, he went to the prison to get Deacon out, locked Katie in a room to keep her quiet and used people to manipulate things his way. He became a little softer but deep down he is more on the evil side.

I liked bill ruthless but this is just nuts

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longtimerfan, 12/29/2022, 10:18AM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph- one person liked this

First he tampers with evidence regarding the Vinny accident. Then commits a hit & run. Bullies Liam and lands them both in jail. But still, everyone forgave him and Thomas saved his butt from jail.

Then he professes his undying love first to Brooke and then to Katie. Just minutes apart.

Next he does a 180 regarding Sheila and protects her from jail. After she tried to kill the mother of his granddaughter Kelly.

How is this character now not a joke? Feeling sorry for himself is pathetic. It was Bill who dumped Katie for Brooke. Twice or even more. It was Bill who bullied Liam and almost blew him up in that building. It was Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber thinking she was carrying his grandbaby. It was Bill that ruthlessly stole Forrester Creations. It was Bill who tried his best to ruin Liam & Steffy to get Steffy for himself. Yet people forgave him. Bill's pity party is the biggest joke. He's lucky he's not been sent to prison and lost contact with everyone.

Now he thinks Sheila deserves a "second" chance. How many second chances does a person get? Sheila should be around her nintieth chance by now. Last chance she got was a year ago when Taylor invited her for Christmas. It didn't take her long to blow it. First with the champagne label and then double shootings.

Bill is one pathetic & ruined character.

For Vinny he made the wrong decisions, but at the end of the day he didn't do anything illegal. There was nothing to forgive. Vinny committed suicide, therefore there was no evidence to tamper. No hit and run. You can't tamper and cover up a crime you didn't commit. Vinny threw himself under the car. He and Liam were in jail for a crime they didn't commit. Ironically that's the only time major characters spent a significant amount of time behind bars, and that's for something they didn't do... while at the same time other characters have committed major crimes and gotten away with it.

For the rest I agree. He is being ruined. He has been on his best behavior since 2018 but he is a walking disaster since Katie turned him down. Not sure what's Bell's goal behind this. If this is supposed to make us see Carter as "the better man for Katie", and ship Karter, this isn't working at all. Carter also professed his undying love to 4 different women in a very short time. He fell in love with Quinn who is not much better than Sheila. No matter how much they throw Bill under the bus, I still won't like Carter.
Maybe the goal is to whitewash Deacon's actions? Deacon hid Sheila and slept with her... given that he has a parole officer, this would easily land him back in jail if it comes out. So let's throw Bill under the bus even more than Deacon. Not working either. Deacon is still a monster for me, no matter what Bill does. He still hid Sheila in his closet and lied to everyone for months. I will never have an ounce of sympathy for Deacon.

But at the same time nice Bill was kinda boring. This storyline has potential. Maybe Still's past will be revisited. I wasn't a big fan of Still (Bill and Steffy) but anything's better than Sinn for me, so... I can see Steffy seducing Bill if she thinks he has feelings for Sheila. I wonder how Finn would feel about it. I also look forward to seeing Liam and Wyatt's reactions. Maybe it will lead to a Spencer take over. Will Liam kick his father to the curb? Will he and Wyatt try to help him? Or will they just make dumb excuses for him just like Hope does with Deacon. It'll be interesting to see how his relationship with his sons play out. Li's reaction is also going to be interesting. Bill saved her from Sheila, and she thinks he is such a wonderful man. She considered having a relationship with him. Let's see how she reacts if she finds him with Sheila. Like I said, this Bill assassination opens a lot of storyline possibilities.

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QueenSteph, 12/29/2022, 11:29AM (491 days ago) @longtimerfan

Well, ithe did do some illegal things regarding the Vinny fiasco. No matter what happened, you have to report an incident to the police and let them investigate. Bill threw phones away and left the scene without calling 911. Doesn't matter if Vinny committed suicide. Bill's actions after the collision were criminal. Not enough for lifetime in jail, but certainly longer than he did sit there. He was lucky to be a filthy rich white man with lots of good contacts.

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hopeyougogirl, 12/29/2022, 12:59PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph- 2 people liked this

Well, ithe did do some illegal things regarding the Vinny fiasco. No matter what happened, you have to report an incident to the police and let them investigate. Bill threw phones away and left the scene without calling 911. Doesn't matter if Vinny committed suicide. Bill's actions after the collision were criminal. Not enough for lifetime in jail, but certainly longer than he did sit there. He was lucky to be a filthy rich white man with lots of good contacts.

No different than the rich faux Forresters including criminal Taylor..they are rich and get away with their crimes too.

Steffy has blackmailed plenty of people in her life including Bill, so if Bill uses the same trick on her..he's giving her a taste of her own medicine. And I love it.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Juliah, 12/29/2022, 2:53PM (491 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

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prime ⌂, Knoxville Tenn., 12/29/2022, 3:11PM (491 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Well, ithe did do some illegal things regarding the Vinny fiasco. No matter what happened, you have to report an incident to the police and let them investigate. Bill threw phones away and left the scene without calling 911. Doesn't matter if Vinny committed suicide. Bill's actions after the collision were criminal. Not enough for lifetime in jail, but certainly longer than he did sit there. He was lucky to be a filthy rich white man with lots of good contacts.


No different than the rich faux Forresters including criminal Taylor..they are rich and get away with their crimes too.

Steffy has blackmailed plenty of people in her life including Bill, so if Bill uses the same trick on her..he's giving her a taste of her own medicine. And I love it.

Yep. Does Thomas getting off scott free for Emma's murder even need to be mentioned?

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hopeyougogirl, 12/29/2022, 3:22PM (491 days ago) @prime- one person liked this

Well, ithe did do some illegal things regarding the Vinny fiasco. No matter what happened, you have to report an incident to the police and let them investigate. Bill threw phones away and left the scene without calling 911. Doesn't matter if Vinny committed suicide. Bill's actions after the collision were criminal. Not enough for lifetime in jail, but certainly longer than he did sit there. He was lucky to be a filthy rich white man with lots of good contacts.


No different than the rich faux Forresters including criminal Taylor..they are rich and get away with their crimes too.

Steffy has blackmailed plenty of people in her life including Bill, so if Bill uses the same trick on her..he's giving her a taste of her own medicine. And I love it.


Yep. Does Thomas getting off scott free for Emma's murder even need to be mentioned?

Yeah, but it's okay for the Tridge mafia to shoot others and commit crimes, just not Bill or Sheila.:drunk

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

Bill, ruined

cranberryboy, 12/30/2022, 11:05PM (490 days ago) @prime

Well, ithe did do some illegal things regarding the Vinny fiasco. No matter what happened, you have to report an incident to the police and let them investigate. Bill threw phones away and left the scene without calling 911. Doesn't matter if Vinny committed suicide. Bill's actions after the collision were criminal. Not enough for lifetime in jail, but certainly longer than he did sit there. He was lucky to be a filthy rich white man with lots of good contacts.


No different than the rich faux Forresters including criminal Taylor..they are rich and get away with their crimes too.

Steffy has blackmailed plenty of people in her life including Bill, so if Bill uses the same trick on her..he's giving her a taste of her own medicine. And I love it.


Yep. Does Thomas getting off scott free for Emma's murder even need to be mentioned?

Thomas needs to pay for that as well.

Bill, ruined

cranberryboy, 1/1/2023, 5:54PM (488 days ago) @prime

Well, ithe did do some illegal things regarding the Vinny fiasco. No matter what happened, you have to report an incident to the police and let them investigate. Bill threw phones away and left the scene without calling 911. Doesn't matter if Vinny committed suicide. Bill's actions after the collision were criminal. Not enough for lifetime in jail, but certainly longer than he did sit there. He was lucky to be a filthy rich white man with lots of good contacts.


No different than the rich faux Forresters including criminal Taylor..they are rich and get away with their crimes too.

Steffy has blackmailed plenty of people in her life including Bill, so if Bill uses the same trick on her..he's giving her a taste of her own medicine. And I love it.


Yep. Does Thomas getting off scott free for Emma's murder even need to be mentioned?

I’m surprised Justin didnt take that out on Thomas when he had him locked up.

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q, 1/1/2023, 6:11PM (488 days ago) @cranberryboy

Well, ithe did do some illegal things regarding the Vinny fiasco. No matter what happened, you have to report an incident to the police and let them investigate. Bill threw phones away and left the scene without calling 911. Doesn't matter if Vinny committed suicide. Bill's actions after the collision were criminal. Not enough for lifetime in jail, but certainly longer than he did sit there. He was lucky to be a filthy rich white man with lots of good contacts.


No different than the rich faux Forresters including criminal Taylor..they are rich and get away with their crimes too.

Steffy has blackmailed plenty of people in her life including Bill, so if Bill uses the same trick on her..he's giving her a taste of her own medicine. And I love it.


Yep. Does Thomas getting off scott free for Emma's murder even need to be mentioned?


I’m surprised Justin didnt take that out on Thomas when he had him locked up.

Because Justin didn't know about it.

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Kammie @, 12/29/2022, 3:31PM (491 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

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Foreverbeauty, 12/29/2022, 10:38AM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph- 2 people liked this

I disagree. Bill is giving this show action along with Sheila. Looking forward to seeing more of Sheila and Bill.

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Juliah, 12/29/2022, 2:54PM (491 days ago) @Foreverbeauty

I agree. I’m interested to where this is going. The super (evil) couple.

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partyprincess1, 12/29/2022, 12:02PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph

Bill teaming up with sheila is a big mistake for bill. Sheila is dangerous and is going to hurt someone bill love's next.

It could be lots of people, brooke(sheila wanted ridge with taylor when she was talking to deacon about it), katie, liam or wyatt or etc.

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hopeyougogirl, 12/29/2022, 12:53PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph

First he tampers with evidence regarding the Vinny accident. Then commits a hit & run. Bullies Liam and lands them both in jail. But still, everyone forgave him and Thomas saved his butt from jail.

Then he professes his undying love first to Brooke and then to Katie. Just minutes apart.

Next he does a 180 regarding Sheila and protects her from jail. After she tried to kill the mother of his granddaughter Kelly.

How is this character now not a joke? Feeling sorry for himself is pathetic. It was Bill who dumped Katie for Brooke. Twice or even more. It was Bill who bullied Liam and almost blew him up in that building. It was Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber thinking she was carrying his grandbaby. It was Bill that ruthlessly stole Forrester Creations. It was Bill who tried his best to ruin Liam & Steffy to get Steffy for himself. Yet people forgave him. Bill's pity party is the biggest joke. He's lucky he's not been sent to prison and lost contact with everyone.

Now he thinks Sheila deserves a "second" chance. How many second chances does a person get? Sheila should be around her nintieth chance by now. Last chance she got was a year ago when Taylor invited her for Christmas. It didn't take her long to blow it. First with the champagne label and then double shootings.

Bill is one pathetic & ruined character.

Bill was ruined way before the Vinny story! The minute he pimped his ex-mistress Steffy to an engaged Liam just to destroy Lope....he was totally ruined IMO especially given the fact that Hope was the one reunited him and his long lost son. And scheming nonstop to favor his side piece and destroy Hope's happiness..was his evil way of thanking Hope..now that's what I called ruined.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Kammie @, 12/29/2022, 3:33PM (491 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

However bringing Steffy to her knees could be his redemption for hurting Hope and Liam.

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hopeyougogirl, 12/29/2022, 4:14PM (491 days ago) @Kammie

However bringing Steffy to her knees could be his redemption for hurting Hope and Liam.

Exactly!

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Lynn, 12/29/2022, 1:37PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph- 3 people liked this[O]

Taylor shot Kelly’s grandparent too. She is just as evil, even more so than Sheila. Bill is not anywhere near as bad as the Hamilton’s.

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hopeyougogirl, 12/29/2022, 2:38PM (491 days ago) @Lynn
edited by hopeyougogirl, 12/29/2022, 2:42PM

Taylor shot Kelly’s grandparent too. She is just as evil, even more so than Sheila. Bill is not anywhere near as bad as the Hamilton’s.

And in Steffy's twisted logic, it's okay for criminal Taylor to shoot Kelly's granddad and left him for dead, but not criminal Sheila for shooting at Kelly's mother. Her ma gets excused and only Sheila has to go to prison. It's okay for Steffy and Taylor to be trigger happy, but just not Sheila. Too funny.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Tiqui1999 @, 12/29/2022, 2:57PM (491 days ago) @Lynn

Taylor shot Kelly’s grandparent too. She is just as evil, even more so than Sheila. Bill is not anywhere near as bad as the Hamilton’s.

Yes, and Steffy shot Hayes's grandmother.

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cranberryboy, 1/1/2023, 5:59PM (488 days ago) @Lynn

Taylor shot Kelly’s grandparent too. She is just as evil, even more so than Sheila. Bill is not anywhere near as bad as the Hamilton’s.

Not sure what show you’ve been watching. Taylor never has been portrayed as more evil than Sheila. Not ever. Sheila has a history of evil, murder going way back. She mutters to herself evil vile things and threatens to harm whenever someone gets in her way.

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Tiqui1999 @, 12/29/2022, 2:54PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph- one person liked this

First he tampers with evidence regarding the Vinny accident. Then commits a hit & run. Bullies Liam and lands them both in jail. But still, everyone forgave him and Thomas saved his butt from jail.

Then he professes his undying love first to Brooke and then to Katie. Just minutes apart.

Next he does a 180 regarding Sheila and protects her from jail. After she tried to kill the mother of his granddaughter Kelly.

How is this character now not a joke? Feeling sorry for himself is pathetic. It was Bill who dumped Katie for Brooke. Twice or even more. It was Bill who bullied Liam and almost blew him up in that building. It was Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber thinking she was carrying his grandbaby. It was Bill that ruthlessly stole Forrester Creations. It was Bill who tried his best to ruin Liam & Steffy to get Steffy for himself. Yet people forgave him. Bill's pity party is the biggest joke. He's lucky he's not been sent to prison and lost contact with everyone.

Now he thinks Sheila deserves a "second" chance. How many second chances does a person get? Sheila should be around her nintieth chance by now. Last chance she got was a year ago when Taylor invited her for Christmas. It didn't take her long to blow it. First with the champagne label and then double shootings.

Bill is one pathetic & ruined character.

Some of this is inaccurate. For example, Bill didn't "try" to kill Amber. He stood there, thinking about it, but a tree branch hit her and she flew over the side. He didn't help her up, but in a lot of states, there is no duty to render aid.

Bill didn't dump Katie twice or even more for Brooke. Katie left Bill. Then he went to Brooke. Once, Bill did walk out but it was because Katie had put up spy cameras all around him.

I don't recall Bill "stealing" Forrester Creations. Didn't a bank loan get called in? Bill didn't try his best to ruin liam and Steffy. Steffy ruined Liam and steffy by sleeping with his dad.

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KKLBAB12, 12/29/2022, 3:23PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph

Well it's the writers that ruined him.
NOT going to entertain anyone making silly ideas that the Logan sisters ruined him. I'm sure it's going to out there. Not here most likely.

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tercor123 @, 12/29/2022, 3:39PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph

First he tampers with evidence regarding the Vinny accident. Then commits a hit & run. Bullies Liam and lands them both in jail. But still, everyone forgave him and Thomas saved his butt from jail.

Then he professes his undying love first to Brooke and then to Katie. Just minutes apart.

Next he does a 180 regarding Sheila and protects her from jail. After she tried to kill the mother of his granddaughter Kelly.

How is this character now not a joke? Feeling sorry for himself is pathetic. It was Bill who dumped Katie for Brooke. Twice or even more. It was Bill who bullied Liam and almost blew him up in that building. It was Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber thinking she was carrying his grandbaby. It was Bill that ruthlessly stole Forrester Creations. It was Bill who tried his best to ruin Liam & Steffy to get Steffy for himself. Yet people forgave him. Bill's pity party is the biggest joke. He's lucky he's not been sent to prison and lost contact with everyone.

Now he thinks Sheila deserves a "second" chance. How many second chances does a person get? Sheila should be around her nintieth chance by now. Last chance she got was a year ago when Taylor invited her for Christmas. It didn't take her long to blow it. First with the champagne label and then double shootings.

Bill is one pathetic & ruined character

He was loganized. And downhill since then

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LadyMac @, 12/29/2022, 3:54PM (491 days ago) @tercor123

First he tampers with evidence regarding the Vinny accident. Then commits a hit & run. Bullies Liam and lands them both in jail. But still, everyone forgave him and Thomas saved his butt from jail.

Then he professes his undying love first to Brooke and then to Katie. Just minutes apart.

Next he does a 180 regarding Sheila and protects her from jail. After she tried to kill the mother of his granddaughter Kelly.

How is this character now not a joke? Feeling sorry for himself is pathetic. It was Bill who dumped Katie for Brooke. Twice or even more. It was Bill who bullied Liam and almost blew him up in that building. It was Bill who tried to kill a pregnant Amber thinking she was carrying his grandbaby. It was Bill that ruthlessly stole Forrester Creations. It was Bill who tried his best to ruin Liam & Steffy to get Steffy for himself. Yet people forgave him. Bill's pity party is the biggest joke. He's lucky he's not been sent to prison and lost contact with everyone.

Now he thinks Sheila deserves a "second" chance. How many second chances does a person get? Sheila should be around her nintieth chance by now. Last chance she got was a year ago when Taylor invited her for Christmas. It didn't take her long to blow it. First with the champagne label and then double shootings.

Bill is one pathetic & ruined character


He was loganized. And downhill since then

Actually, according to Bill, it was Steffy was started the downhill spiral.

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Grannysmith, 12/29/2022, 6:41PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph

I said yesterday they’ve ruined Bill. Unless he’s drugged or hypnotized and I think …or hope…he is one of those..the character is shot to hell.

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JX @, 12/29/2022, 6:53PM (491 days ago) @QueenSteph- one person liked this

Bill is Bill and I’m still loving him!!!! Finally he has met his match. This is going to be interesting and REFRESHING!!!!! Good to have something new FINALLY!

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