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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends? (General)

Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 5:28PM (555 days ago)- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

IW, 11/1/2022, 6:07PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999- 3 people liked this[O]

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:11PM (555 days ago) @IW

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.

That's true. I've been waiting for him to have some kind of conversation with Steffy about this from the moment the SL started Especially since they were so close during that whole "My sweet husband" SL, which I have yet to understand why transpired. It's really strange that these two are not having one word to say to each other about their family plights. Have they even had a scene together? Notably absent of course is him going to see Kelly.

The writers missed a chance to add layers to this story by having Steffy and Liam at least discuss it. When have we ever seen Liam and steffy on opposing sides of something? Could have been interesting. And it might have given Finn something to do.

Instead, the writers seemed to have conveniently forgotten this "Bff" ship.

Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Dreamgirl, 11/1/2022, 6:30PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


That's true. I've been waiting for him to have some kind of conversation with Steffy about this from the moment the SL started Especially since they were so close during that whole "My sweet husband" SL, which I have yet to understand why transpired. It's really strange that these two are not having one word to say to each other about their family plights. Have they even had a scene together? Notably absent of course is him going to see Kelly.

The writers missed a chance to add layers to this story by having Steffy and Liam at least discuss it. When have we ever seen Liam and steffy on opposing sides of something? Could have been interesting. And it might have given Finn something to do.

Instead, the writers seemed to have conveniently forgotten this "Bff" ship.

Probably so that they can dust off Leffy and bring it out once again when needed:oops If they show them at odds now they won't be able to use this farce of a couple again in the future. Although with all the rewrites currently happening that should not really be an issue.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 10:03PM (555 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


That's true. I've been waiting for him to have some kind of conversation with Steffy about this from the moment the SL started Especially since they were so close during that whole "My sweet husband" SL, which I have yet to understand why transpired. It's really strange that these two are not having one word to say to each other about their family plights. Have they even had a scene together? Notably absent of course is him going to see Kelly.

The writers missed a chance to add layers to this story by having Steffy and Liam at least discuss it. When have we ever seen Liam and steffy on opposing sides of something? Could have been interesting. And it might have given Finn something to do.

Instead, the writers seemed to have conveniently forgotten this "Bff" ship.


Probably so that they can dust off Leffy and bring it out once again when needed:oops If they show them at odds now they won't be able to use this farce of a couple again in the future. Although with all the rewrites currently happening that should not really be an issue.

You could be right. I think being on opposite sides can bring the passion though.

I just really feel like something is missing to have them in this SL and we don't even know how or if it's affecting Steffy and Liam's relationship or Liam's with Kelly, either. For me, it's really weird to see how much support Liam gave Steffy over the summer, but she's absent for him now.

Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Debra, 11/1/2022, 6:19PM (555 days ago) @IW

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.

Where did he insult Steffy?

Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

IW, 11/1/2022, 6:26PM (555 days ago) @Debra- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?

I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Debra, 11/1/2022, 6:32PM (555 days ago) @IW

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.

You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.

Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

hopeyougogirl, 11/1/2022, 6:45PM (555 days ago) @Debra- 2 people liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.

No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Drangonfly @, 11/1/2022, 7:36PM (555 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- 2 people liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.

I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

hopeyougogirl, 11/1/2022, 10:26PM (555 days ago) @Drangonfly

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.

Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 10:29PM (555 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.


Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.

I guess with all of this, I can see why Liam and Steffy might not be BFFs anymore. I mean, his wife's family loaned him out to play "my sweet husband" and Steffy repayed them by declaring war and scheming to get Ridge away from Brooke. That plus being aced out of family dinners when he is Douglas' cousin and Kelly's father, could be enough to strain a BFFship.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Drangonfly @, 11/2/2022, 2:08PM (554 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.


Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.


I guess with all of this, I can see why Liam and Steffy might not be BFFs anymore. I mean, his wife's family loaned him out to play "my sweet husband" and Steffy repayed them by declaring war and scheming to get Ridge away from Brooke. That plus being aced out of family dinners when he is Douglas' cousin and Kelly's father, could be enough to strain a BFFship.

Agree. I think Liam is seeing now how manipulative Steffy is. Who would know better than him? I like how he is taking Brooke's side against the Tridge mafia in their dumb war against the Logans.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/2/2022, 2:25PM (554 days ago) @Drangonfly

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.


Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.


I guess with all of this, I can see why Liam and Steffy might not be BFFs anymore. I mean, his wife's family loaned him out to play "my sweet husband" and Steffy repayed them by declaring war and scheming to get Ridge away from Brooke. That plus being aced out of family dinners when he is Douglas' cousin and Kelly's father, could be enough to strain a BFFship.


Agree. I think Liam is seeing now how manipulative Steffy is. Who would know better than him? I like how he is taking Brooke's side against the Tridge mafia in their dumb war against the Logans.

It's gotta be hard for Liam on all fronts. You know I will tell Liam about himself when I don't like what he's doing, but I think he has been used by the Tridge Mafia, and I think he does see that now. I would like him to see how he's not only being frozen out as Douglas' stepdad, but as his own daughter's father. Maybe he does. Maybe that's why he doesn't confide in, talk to, or get drunk with Steffy anymore.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Drangonfly @, 11/2/2022, 2:31PM (554 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.


Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.


Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.


I guess with all of this, I can see why Liam and Steffy might not be BFFs anymore. I mean, his wife's family loaned him out to play "my sweet husband" and Steffy repayed them by declaring war and scheming to get Ridge away from Brooke. That plus being aced out of family dinners when he is Douglas' cousin and Kelly's father, could be enough to strain a BFFship.


Agree. I think Liam is seeing now how manipulative Steffy is. Who would know better than him? I like how he is taking Brooke's side against the Tridge mafia in their dumb war against the Logans.


It's gotta be hard for Liam on all fronts. You know I will tell Liam about himself when I don't like what he's doing, but I think he has been used by the Tridge Mafia, and I think he does see that now. I would like him to see how he's not only being frozen out as Douglas' stepdad, but as his own daughter's father. Maybe he does. Maybe that's why he doesn't confide in, talk to, or get drunk with Steffy anymore.

He sure was used. Remember when Taylor demanded that the sweet husband charade go on? He sacrificed HIS family time to help Steffy and did any of them stand up for him when Thomas was icing him out of their little Forrester dinners? Nope. They were too busy icing Brooke out to even notice.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/2/2022, 3:07PM (554 days ago) @Drangonfly

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.

Where did he insult Steffy?


I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.


Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.


I guess with all of this, I can see why Liam and Steffy might not be BFFs anymore. I mean, his wife's family loaned him out to play "my sweet husband" and Steffy repayed them by declaring war and scheming to get Ridge away from Brooke. That plus being aced out of family dinners when he is Douglas' cousin and Kelly's father, could be enough to strain a BFFship.


Agree. I think Liam is seeing now how manipulative Steffy is. Who would know better than him? I like how he is taking Brooke's side against the Tridge mafia in their dumb war against the Logans.


It's gotta be hard for Liam on all fronts. You know I will tell Liam about himself when I don't like what he's doing, but I think he has been used by the Tridge Mafia, and I think he does see that now. I would like him to see how he's not only being frozen out as Douglas' stepdad, but as his own daughter's father. Maybe he does. Maybe that's why he doesn't confide in, talk to, or get drunk with Steffy anymore.


He sure was used. Remember when Taylor demanded that the sweet husband charade go on? He sacrificed HIS family time to help Steffy and did any of them stand up for him when Thomas was icing him out of their little Forrester dinners? Nope. They were too busy icing Brooke out to even notice.

Yeah, and that's what I mean. It sent all of Steffy's promises to co-parent in harmony straight out the window, and Liam can't trust her anymore.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Drangonfly @, 11/2/2022, 3:12PM (554 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.

Where did he insult Steffy?

I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.


You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.


Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.


I guess with all of this, I can see why Liam and Steffy might not be BFFs anymore. I mean, his wife's family loaned him out to play "my sweet husband" and Steffy repayed them by declaring war and scheming to get Ridge away from Brooke. That plus being aced out of family dinners when he is Douglas' cousin and Kelly's father, could be enough to strain a BFFship.


Agree. I think Liam is seeing now how manipulative Steffy is. Who would know better than him? I like how he is taking Brooke's side against the Tridge mafia in their dumb war against the Logans.


It's gotta be hard for Liam on all fronts. You know I will tell Liam about himself when I don't like what he's doing, but I think he has been used by the Tridge Mafia, and I think he does see that now. I would like him to see how he's not only being frozen out as Douglas' stepdad, but as his own daughter's father. Maybe he does. Maybe that's why he doesn't confide in, talk to, or get drunk with Steffy anymore.


He sure was used. Remember when Taylor demanded that the sweet husband charade go on? He sacrificed HIS family time to help Steffy and did any of them stand up for him when Thomas was icing him out of their little Forrester dinners? Nope. They were too busy icing Brooke out to even notice.


Yeah, and that's what I mean. It sent all of Steffy's promises to co-parent in harmony straight out the window, and Liam can't trust her anymore.

He never should have trusted her. That's the one thing I always hated about Liam. That he could be nice to the witch that deliberately hurt Hope so much.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/2/2022, 3:15PM (554 days ago) @Drangonfly

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

I think Steffy has lost her halo with Liam, by now. He has been making a lot of negative comments about her, lately. He and Brooke include her when they talk about Thomas and Taylor ganging up on them.

Where did he insult Steffy?

I don't think he has specifically "insulted" and singled out Steffy. But it's clear he and Brooke think Taylor, Thomas and Steffy have been targetting Brooke's marriage and pulling the strings with Douglas. Liam doesn't approve Steffy interfering in Brooke and Ridge's marriage and brainwashing Thomas about Douglas and the Logans.

You said he’s been making a lot of negative comments about Steffy lately, but he hasn’t. Not one. Brooke has complained about Steffys influence on Ridge. Liam has been a listening ear for Brooke but his negativity has been about Thomas. Liam and Steffy will always love each other. Not as lovers but as the dearest of friends who share a child. That will never change.


No, his negativity hasn't been just about Thomas. When he and Brooke have conversations, he included Steffy and Taylor too..he has mentioned ALL three of them (Taylor and both her brats) that they targeted Brooke's marriage etc. Liam has been on Brooke side about Bridge..he's definitely not on Steffy's side of pushing Tridge.


I agree with this. Liam has made it clear that he thinks the Tridge mafia schemed to break up Brooke's marriage. And that includes Steffy. When I watched it I was very happy about how he was on Brooke and Hope's side on this issue.


Exactly. I was also happy to see that he included Steffy as part of the nasty trio that did damage to Brooke’s marriage.


I guess with all of this, I can see why Liam and Steffy might not be BFFs anymore. I mean, his wife's family loaned him out to play "my sweet husband" and Steffy repayed them by declaring war and scheming to get Ridge away from Brooke. That plus being aced out of family dinners when he is Douglas' cousin and Kelly's father, could be enough to strain a BFFship.


Agree. I think Liam is seeing now how manipulative Steffy is. Who would know better than him? I like how he is taking Brooke's side against the Tridge mafia in their dumb war against the Logans.


It's gotta be hard for Liam on all fronts. You know I will tell Liam about himself when I don't like what he's doing, but I think he has been used by the Tridge Mafia, and I think he does see that now. I would like him to see how he's not only being frozen out as Douglas' stepdad, but as his own daughter's father. Maybe he does. Maybe that's why he doesn't confide in, talk to, or get drunk with Steffy anymore.


He sure was used. Remember when Taylor demanded that the sweet husband charade go on? He sacrificed HIS family time to help Steffy and did any of them stand up for him when Thomas was icing him out of their little Forrester dinners? Nope. They were too busy icing Brooke out to even notice.


Yeah, and that's what I mean. It sent all of Steffy's promises to co-parent in harmony straight out the window, and Liam can't trust her anymore.


He never should have trusted her. That's the one thing I always hated about Liam. That he could be nice to the witch that deliberately hurt Hope so much.

Yes and keeps doing it.

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howeveryouknow, 11/1/2022, 6:08PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

How are they best friends?

Liam bashes Steffy with Brooke all the time, when they talk about Bridge's marital issues. He's a terrible friend if that is the case. Liam confides in Brooke now, and Steffy does not need Liam at all to speak on her problems, because she has Finn.

She only recently leaned on Liam when Finn "died" but the whole time, all she needed, wanted and was thinking of, was Finn. She barely talked about Liam in months, didn't even invite him to any of the Forrester family gatherings. There is no friendship there, and that's a good thing. Boundaries need to be set.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:12PM (555 days ago) @howeveryouknow

How are they best friends?

Liam bashes Steffy with Brooke all the time, when they talk about Bridge's marital issues. He's a terrible friend if that is the case. Liam confides in Brooke now, and Steffy does not need Liam at all to speak on her problems, because she has Finn.

She only recently leaned on Liam when Finn "died" but the whole time, all she needed, wanted and was thinking of, was Finn. She barely talked about Liam in months, didn't even invite him to any of the Forrester family gatherings. There is no friendship there, and that's a good thing. Boundaries need to be set.

They are best friends because they said it.

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howeveryouknow, 11/1/2022, 6:20PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

I don't remember them saying that.

Either way, Finn is her best friend, husband, soulmate, and lover, all wrapped into one. Liam who?

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:28PM (555 days ago) @howeveryouknow

I don't remember them saying that.

Either way, Finn is her best friend, husband, soulmate, and lover, all wrapped into one. Liam who?

Liam, the father of her daughter and man she once called her best friend.

Agree to disagree if you don't recall it.

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Dreamgirl, 11/1/2022, 6:31PM (555 days ago) @howeveryouknow- one person liked this

I don't remember them saying that.

Either way, Finn is her best friend, husband, soulmate, and lover, all wrapped into one. Liam who?

I don't know about Liam but Steffy has called him her best friend more than once.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:33PM (555 days ago) @Dreamgirl

I don't remember them saying that.

Either way, Finn is her best friend, husband, soulmate, and lover, all wrapped into one. Liam who?


I don't know about Liam but Steffy has called him her best friend more than once.

You could be right that it was only Steffy. I have to find time to go back and see what he said in response. :cool

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hopeyougogirl, 11/1/2022, 7:06PM (555 days ago) @howeveryouknow- one person liked this

I don't remember them saying that.

Either way, Finn is her best friend, husband, soulmate, and lover, all wrapped into one. Liam who?

Actually, per the dialogue, Steffy has said before that Liam is her best friend.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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SonOfMan ⌂, VT, 11/1/2022, 6:20PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


Maybe they have learnt the lesson? The last time they started confiding things and spending time together, they ended up half naked on the couch. It doesn't mean they don't have feelings anymore, but they've realized it's better if they don't spend too much time together. Steffy knows Liam would be there for her if she needs him and vice versa, but they don't need it right now. They are co-parenting the girl and that's it. I don't think there is any tensions between them.

Taylor and Ridge should have done the same. Same for Hope and Thomas.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:26PM (555 days ago) @SonOfMan

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

Maybe they have learnt the lesson? The last time they started confiding things and spending time together, they ended up half naked on the couch. It doesn't mean they don't have feelings anymore, but they've realized it's better if they don't spend too much time together. Steffy knows Liam would be there for her if she needs him and vice versa, but they don't need it right now. They are co-parenting the girl and that's it. I don't think there is any tensions between them.

Taylor and Ridge should have done the same. Same for Hope and Thomas.

I agree with your sentiment, but I disagree that Liam doesn't need a friend right now. But I can see why you say his friendship with Steffy isn't the kind of friendship he might need.

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GLFan, 11/1/2022, 6:38PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Liam now whines about Hope to Brooke instead of whining to Steffy. Good riddance. Both Steffy and Finn strongly cautioned Thomas about not getting obsessed with Hope again today.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:40PM (555 days ago) @GLFan

Liam now whines about Hope to Brooke instead of Steffy. Good riddance.

You mean to Brooke about Hope, right?

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GLFan, 11/1/2022, 6:42PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Liam now whines about Hope to Brooke instead of Steffy. Good riddance.


You mean to Brooke about Hope, right?

Yes, I edited to clarify.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:43PM (555 days ago) @GLFan

Liam now whines about Hope to Brooke instead of Steffy. Good riddance.


You mean to Brooke about Hope, right?


Yes, I edited to clarify.

Cool. :cool

It's true. Liam has gone from Tequila and talk with Steffy to spilling the "tea" with Brooke. And at the same time, Steffy has taken to BFFing her mom, so.......

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Torval, 11/1/2022, 6:40PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999- 2 people liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

I don't know but Steffy is giving me weird vibes about Thomas and Hope. She was always totally disgusted with this idea until now.

She almost sounds like she is secretely hoping Thomas will pursue her and win. Why even tell her brother that Hope sees him differently. Why is she suddenly worrying about how Liam feels? The spoilers made it sound like Steffy would put him in his place and remind him of his lie about Beth and how Hope could never want him. Instead she is marvelling at Hope Thomas getting along and the things Hope has been saying about him. Definitely a new attitude here. Maybe she just wants her brother to be happy, or she has something else in mind. Not saying he has an agenda (not yet) but that's a drastic change of attitude.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 6:42PM (555 days ago) @Torval

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I don't know but Steffy is giving me weird vibes about Thomas and Hope. She was always totally disgusted with this idea until now.

She almost sounds like she is secretely hoping Thomas will pursue her and win. Why even tell her brother that Hope sees him differently. Why is she suddenly worrying about how Liam feels? The spoilers made it sound like Steffy would put him in his place and remind him of his lie about Beth and how Hope could never want him. Instead she is marvelling at Hope Thomas getting along and the things Hope has been saying about him. Definitely a new attitude here. Maybe she just wants her brother to be happy, or she has something else in mind. Not saying he has an agenda (not yet) but that's a drastic change of attitude.

I agree, but I'm of two minds about it.

On the one hand, I was kind of proud of Steffy for the forceful way she tried to snap Thomas out of it. But then, with Finn, I did get those vibes you state above, and it did make me wonder if Steam/Leffy might be on the horizon after all this "happiness" the holiday brings.

Or, as Hopeyougogirl says, it might be just a tease. She's been right so far.

I do think Steffy needs to follow it up by telling her parents, but I don't think the writers have this in mind. Do you?

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Drangonfly @, 11/1/2022, 7:44PM (555 days ago) @Torval

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I don't know but Steffy is giving me weird vibes about Thomas and Hope. She was always totally disgusted with this idea until now.

She almost sounds like she is secretely hoping Thomas will pursue her and win. Why even tell her brother that Hope sees him differently. Why is she suddenly worrying about how Liam feels? The spoilers made it sound like Steffy would put him in his place and remind him of his lie about Beth and how Hope could never want him. Instead she is marvelling at Hope Thomas getting along and the things Hope has been saying about him. Definitely a new attitude here. Maybe she just wants her brother to be happy, or she has something else in mind. Not saying he has an agenda (not yet) but that's a drastic change of attitude.

Yes, and last week, at FC, it seemed like she was pushing hard for Hope to say positive things about Thomas. I'll never be convinced that Steffy wouldn't drop Finn in a NY minute if she thought she had a chance with Liam.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Dreamgirl, 11/1/2022, 7:46PM (555 days ago) @Drangonfly

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I don't know but Steffy is giving me weird vibes about Thomas and Hope. She was always totally disgusted with this idea until now.

She almost sounds like she is secretely hoping Thomas will pursue her and win. Why even tell her brother that Hope sees him differently. Why is she suddenly worrying about how Liam feels? The spoilers made it sound like Steffy would put him in his place and remind him of his lie about Beth and how Hope could never want him. Instead she is marvelling at Hope Thomas getting along and the things Hope has been saying about him. Definitely a new attitude here. Maybe she just wants her brother to be happy, or she has something else in mind. Not saying he has an agenda (not yet) but that's a drastic change of attitude.


Yes, and last week, at FC, it seemed like she was pushing hard for Hope to say positive things about Thomas. I'll never be convinced that Steffy wouldn't drop Finn in a NY minute if she thought she had a chance with Liam.

Same here.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 8:30PM (555 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I don't know but Steffy is giving me weird vibes about Thomas and Hope. She was always totally disgusted with this idea until now.

She almost sounds like she is secretely hoping Thomas will pursue her and win. Why even tell her brother that Hope sees him differently. Why is she suddenly worrying about how Liam feels? The spoilers made it sound like Steffy would put him in his place and remind him of his lie about Beth and how Hope could never want him. Instead she is marvelling at Hope Thomas getting along and the things Hope has been saying about him. Definitely a new attitude here. Maybe she just wants her brother to be happy, or she has something else in mind. Not saying he has an agenda (not yet) but that's a drastic change of attitude.


Yes, and last week, at FC, it seemed like she was pushing hard for Hope to say positive things about Thomas. I'll never be convinced that Steffy wouldn't drop Finn in a NY minute if she thought she had a chance with Liam.


Same here.

Yes, that's why I find her making statements about Liam and his feelings now intriguing. Maybe this "best friendship" will heat back up soon. I hope not. I didn't like the "My sweet husband" reiteration of it over the summer.

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howeveryouknow, 11/1/2022, 8:29PM (555 days ago) @Torval- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I don't know but Steffy is giving me weird vibes about Thomas and Hope. She was always totally disgusted with this idea until now.

She almost sounds like she is secretely hoping Thomas will pursue her and win. Why even tell her brother that Hope sees him differently. Why is she suddenly worrying about how Liam feels? The spoilers made it sound like Steffy would put him in his place and remind him of his lie about Beth and how Hope could never want him. Instead she is marvelling at Hope Thomas getting along and the things Hope has been saying about him. Definitely a new attitude here. Maybe she just wants her brother to be happy, or she has something else in mind. Not saying he has an agenda (not yet) but that's a drastic change of attitude.

I didn't see it that way at all today.

Steffy is against Thope completely.

In fact, Steffy got very angry today and cautioned Thomas to not go down that route again. She told him that Hope is married and in a committed relationship, and that he cannot entertain this and be obsessed with Hope again. Steffy added that he has everything on the line, including Douglas living with him, and he better not ruin that.

She told Finn she is worried that Thomas will black-slide again, and did not want to seem overbearing. Steffy is not secretly hoping; in fact, she opposes Thomas getting Hope and would rather he pursue another girl.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 8:34PM (555 days ago) @howeveryouknow

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I don't know but Steffy is giving me weird vibes about Thomas and Hope. She was always totally disgusted with this idea until now.

She almost sounds like she is secretely hoping Thomas will pursue her and win. Why even tell her brother that Hope sees him differently. Why is she suddenly worrying about how Liam feels? The spoilers made it sound like Steffy would put him in his place and remind him of his lie about Beth and how Hope could never want him. Instead she is marvelling at Hope Thomas getting along and the things Hope has been saying about him. Definitely a new attitude here. Maybe she just wants her brother to be happy, or she has something else in mind. Not saying he has an agenda (not yet) but that's a drastic change of attitude.


I didn't see it that way at all today.

Steffy is against Thope completely.

In fact, Steffy got very angry today and cautioned Thomas to not go down that route again. She told him that Hope is married and in a committed relationship, and that he cannot entertain this and be obsessed with Hope again. Steffy added that he has everything on the line, including Douglas living with him, and he better not ruin that.

She told Finn she is worried that Thomas will black-slide again, and did not want to seem overbearing. Steffy is not secretly hoping; in fact, she opposes Thomas getting Hope and would rather he pursue another girl.

I do not get the impression that Steffy is against Thomas and Hope "completely." I believe that in the past and now, if the circumstances were right, she'd be fine with it. I think she was adamantly against it like you said -- at first -- but I think the more she thinks about Hope changing her attitude, the more Steffy could be for it.

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Steffyfanatic, 11/1/2022, 8:32PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

Yep things have changed. Brooke is now Liam’s confidant and Finn is Steffy’s best friend.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 8:34PM (555 days ago) @Steffyfanatic

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


Yep things have changed. Brooke is now Liam’s confidant and Finn is Steffy’s best friend.

I don't agree that Finn is Steffy's best friend. Taylor maybe, but not Finn.

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Dreamgirl, 11/1/2022, 8:35PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


Yep things have changed. Brooke is now Liam’s confidant and Finn is Steffy’s best friend.


I don't agree that Finn is Steffy's best friend. Taylor maybe, but not Finn.

Same. I was just wondering how exactly Finn is her best friend when all he does is say yes to whatever she wants. He's literally her yes man.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 8:37PM (555 days ago) @Dreamgirl

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


Yep things have changed. Brooke is now Liam’s confidant and Finn is Steffy’s best friend.


I don't agree that Finn is Steffy's best friend. Taylor maybe, but not Finn.


Same. I was just wondering how exactly Finn is her best friend when all he does is say yes to whatever she wants. He's literally her yes man.

I agree. He never sets her straight. Taylor, at least, as much as I don't like her, does set Steffy straight at times. That's what a BFF does.

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Dreamgirl, 11/1/2022, 8:39PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


Yep things have changed. Brooke is now Liam’s confidant and Finn is Steffy’s best friend.


I don't agree that Finn is Steffy's best friend. Taylor maybe, but not Finn.


Same. I was just wondering how exactly Finn is her best friend when all he does is say yes to whatever she wants. He's literally her yes man.


I agree. He never sets her straight. Taylor, at least, as much as I don't like her, does set Steffy straight at times. That's what a BFF does.

I have to grudgingly agree to that as well. It galls me to say anything positive about Taylor:oops

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Chapchick @, 11/1/2022, 8:50PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

Well, both fan bases wanted Hope and Steffy in separate stories, no? Now Steffy has drama with Sheila/Finn on 1 side and Brooke/Ridge/Taylor on the other side. Hope has her own big story with Liam/Thomas/Douglas. Liam Steffy aren't in the same story. Their friendship can be revisited later for plots purposes but now it'd be useless... and alienate everyone again.

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/1/2022, 8:52PM (555 days ago) @Chapchick

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


Well, both fan bases wanted Hope and Steffy in separate stories, no? Now Steffy has drama with Sheila/Finn on 1 side and Brooke/Ridge/Taylor on the other side. Hope has her own big story with Liam/Thomas/Douglas. Liam Steffy aren't in the same story. Their friendship can be revisited later for plots purposes but now it'd be useless... and alienate everyone again.

I don't really know what fanbases wanted. I'm just talking about the storyline.

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Zaneygray, 11/1/2022, 10:20PM (555 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

Yes it changed. Finn is now Steffy’s best friend. That’s not surprising since Finn is her soulmate. Liam has moved on to a new best friend also, but it’s not his wife, imo.

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THREE TIME OUTSTANDING LEAD ACTRESS WINNER: Jacqueline MacInnes Wood as Steffy Forrester

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hopeyougogirl, 11/1/2022, 11:09PM (555 days ago) @Zaneygray- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


Yes it changed. Finn is now Steffy’s best friend. That’s not surprising since Finn is her soulmate. Liam has moved on to a new best friend also, but it’s not his wife, imo.

Good to know Leffy’s best friends claim is DEAD.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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tercor123 @, 11/2/2022, 4:44PM (554 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy is with her own man. She doesn't have time for Liam the wafflehead

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Tiqui1999 @, 11/2/2022, 4:45PM (554 days ago) @tercor123

Steffy is with her own man

Finally, but I'm asking about the best friendship she and Liam once had and said they always would have.

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Zaneygray, 11/2/2022, 6:06PM (554 days ago) @tercor123

Steffy is with her own man. She doesn't have time for Liam the wafflehead

Absolutely correct. :cool

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

q, 11/2/2022, 4:48PM (554 days ago) @Tiqui1999

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.

I think they are only best friends when she has no one else to lean on.

Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Dreamgirl, 11/2/2022, 5:33PM (554 days ago) @q- one person liked this

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think they are only best friends when she has no one else to lean on.

Or when she wants something from him.

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Liam and Steffy aren't best friends?

Tiqui1999 @, 11/2/2022, 5:51PM (554 days ago) @q

Steffy asked Finn if Liam had any idea about Thomas and Hope's changing attitudes. I thought Liam and Steffy were BFFs who talked about everything and supported each other through everything? How can she not know how he feels about it?

I guess all that changed.


I think they are only best friends when she has no one else to lean on.

Now that's true. :cool

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