Not With Hope On This (General)
Liz 
, 10/26/2022, 2:49PM (556 days ago)- one person liked this
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
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if this were her first go around it would be one thing, but this is literally the 3rd or 4th time the exact thing is happening, she looks more and more ridiculous as the story progresses and you're right, she will land herself in a mess and she'll have no one to blame but herself
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Liz , 10/26/2022, 3:00PM (556 days ago) @theduchess
if this were her first go around it would be one thing, but this is literally the 3rd or 4th time the exact thing is happening, she looks more and more ridiculous as the story progresses and you're right, she will land herself in a mess and she'll have no one to blame but herself
Exactly. She's been here multiple times and has learned nothing. I'm really miffed that she's so darn gullible and blind.
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if this were her first go around it would be one thing, but this is literally the 3rd or 4th time the exact thing is happening, she looks more and more ridiculous as the story progresses and you're right, she will land herself in a mess and she'll have no one to blame but herself
Exactly. She's been here multiple times and has learned nothing. I'm really miffed that she's so darn gullible and blind.
Hey she took cheaten dog Liam back she really is a dummy
And I really don´t understand this story...I could maybe Hope see a bit tempted if she and Liam were in trouble, for a longer time now perhaps, Liam again straying, perhaps even cheating...this could maybe make Hope susceptible to Tom´s advances or wanting to pay her husband back in his own coin...but so out of the blue? What were the writers thinking?
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Liz , 10/26/2022, 3:03PM (556 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this
And I really don´t understand this story...I could maybe Hope see a bit tempted if she and Liam were in trouble, for a longer time now perhaps, Liam again straying, perhaps even cheating...this could maybe make Hope susceptible to Tom´s advances or wanting to pay her husband back in his own coin...but so out of the blue? What were the writers thinking?
So out of the blue indeed. I get that she doesn't want a court battle over Douglas but ignoring Thomas' actions and behaviour towards her mother is so unHope.
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Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
IA with you....but....there was something about the way she was looking at him today that said she is on to him and is playing him for some reason. I am wondering if Hope, unbeknownst to anyone at all, has decided to play Steffy and Tom's game against Tom, and is manipulating him to get Douglas back full time with her. Or, something else. Not sure, but the looks she gives him are ones of distrust. Steffy was prying today, and Hope was very careful with her. Hope is up to something IMO.
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Liz , 10/26/2022, 3:06PM (556 days ago) @matisse
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
IA with you....but....there was something about the way she was looking at him today that said she is on to him and is playing him for some reason. I am wondering if Hope, unbeknownst to anyone at all, has decided to play Steffy and Tom's game against Tom, and is manipulating him to get Douglas back full time with her. Or, something else. Not sure, but the looks she gives him are ones of distrust. Steffy was prying today, and Hope was very careful with her. Hope is up to something IMO.
One can only Hope. But, if it's true and she is plotting, she is hurting her husband and her mother by not telling them. I'd like the surprise but not her methods.
Not With Hope On This
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
IA with you....but....there was something about the way she was looking at him today that said she is on to him and is playing him for some reason. I am wondering if Hope, unbeknownst to anyone at all, has decided to play Steffy and Tom's game against Tom, and is manipulating him to get Douglas back full time with her. Or, something else. Not sure, but the looks she gives him are ones of distrust. Steffy was prying today, and Hope was very careful with her. Hope is up to something IMO.
One can only Hope. But, if it's true and she is plotting, she is hurting her husband and her mother by not telling them. I'd like the surprise but not her methods.
Remember how she and Douglas kept from everyone how they were going to stop Thomas wedding to Zoe to show everyone Thomas had not changed.
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Liz , 10/26/2022, 3:16PM (556 days ago) @q
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
IA with you....but....there was something about the way she was looking at him today that said she is on to him and is playing him for some reason. I am wondering if Hope, unbeknownst to anyone at all, has decided to play Steffy and Tom's game against Tom, and is manipulating him to get Douglas back full time with her. Or, something else. Not sure, but the looks she gives him are ones of distrust. Steffy was prying today, and Hope was very careful with her. Hope is up to something IMO.
One can only Hope. But, if it's true and she is plotting, she is hurting her husband and her mother by not telling them. I'd like the surprise but not her methods.
Remember how she and Douglas kept from everyone how they were going to stop Thomas wedding to Zoe to show everyone Thomas had not changed.
But weren't Liam and Steffy were in the know?
Not With Hope On This
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
IA with you....but....there was something about the way she was looking at him today that said she is on to him and is playing him for some reason. I am wondering if Hope, unbeknownst to anyone at all, has decided to play Steffy and Tom's game against Tom, and is manipulating him to get Douglas back full time with her. Or, something else. Not sure, but the looks she gives him are ones of distrust. Steffy was prying today, and Hope was very careful with her. Hope is up to something IMO.
One can only Hope. But, if it's true and she is plotting, she is hurting her husband and her mother by not telling them. I'd like the surprise but not her methods.
Remember how she and Douglas kept from everyone how they were going to stop Thomas wedding to Zoe to show everyone Thomas had not changed.
But weren't Liam and Steffy were in the know?
Don't think so. I just remember how shocked everyone looked when they saw Hope in that ugly wedding dress with Douglas next to her. Steffy and Liam tried to convince Zoe that Thomas was using her. Shevwentnalong with it to get her job back bug decided that Thomas really wanted her.
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A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
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Liz , 10/26/2022, 3:08PM (556 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this
A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
Another poster asked if Thomas would rape Hope? I think it's possible. But, if they go there, that would be the end of Thomas for quite some time.
A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
Another poster asked if Thomas would rape Hope? I think it's possible. But, if they go there, that would be the end of Thomas for quite some time.
They'd have to write him out for good. Most rapists on this how end up dead.
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"What Pine Cone has brought together...let no one put asunder."
Not With Hope On This
A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
Another poster asked if Thomas would rape Hope? I think it's possible. But, if they go there, that would be the end of Thomas for quite some time.
They'd have to write him out for good. Most rapists on this how end up dead.
Unless for some strange far out reason she doesn't tell.
A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
Another poster asked if Thomas would rape Hope? I think it's possible. But, if they go there, that would be the end of Thomas for quite some time.
They'd have to write him out for good. Most rapists on this how end up dead.
Unless for some strange far out reason she doesn't tell.
Even if Hope didn't tell...the audience will know...and Bell would face the worst backlash he ever has if he let's a rapist walk.
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"What Pine Cone has brought together...let no one put asunder."
Not With Hope On This
A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
Another poster asked if Thomas would rape Hope? I think it's possible. But, if they go there, that would be the end of Thomas for quite some time.
They'd have to write him out for good. Most rapists on this how end up dead.
Unless for some strange far out reason she doesn't tell.
Did Ridge rape anyone? I seem to remember in ancient days someone mentioned he did
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A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
IA, I was thinking he might accidentally "kill" her and she is gone for a bit. That would open the door to a lot of drama. Brooke tearing into Ridge and Taylor for not listening to her about their psycho son. The Hamilton Witches and Ridge begging Liam to not let Tom go to prison. Liam and Bill going for revenge on all of them. Steffy thinking this might be her chance to get back Liam, thus destroying her marriage to Finn. Or, Tom kidnaps her and holds her hostage and rapes her, for weeks until she is rescued by Liam and she is pregnant. Then it could come out that Tom has a disassociated disorder from his head injury and it was his other personality that did all the bad things. He gets real help and his evil personality is destroyed by his good one. Something has to redeem this guy, or the character is toast. He is bordering on being the male Sheila of this show.
A while back, someone here posted that Bell believed he could give AN a storyline that would get her an Emmy. My fear is that it’s not going to be a romantic story. It’s gonna be a very difficult story. Thomas is crazy and I’m not so sure Hope is safe.
IA, I was thinking he might accidentally "kill" her and she is gone for a bit. That would open the door to a lot of drama. Brooke tearing into Ridge and Taylor for not listening to her about their psycho son. The Hamilton Witches and Ridge begging Liam to not let Tom go to prison. Liam and Bill going for revenge on all of them. Steffy thinking this might be her chance to get back Liam, thus destroying her marriage to Finn. Or, Tom kidnaps her and holds her hostage and rapes her, for weeks until she is rescued by Liam and she is pregnant. Then it could come out that Tom has a disassociated disorder from his head injury and it was his other personality that did all the bad things. He gets real help and his evil personality is destroyed by his good one. Something has to redeem this guy, or the character is toast. He is bordering on being the male Sheila of this show.
He reached the level of male Sheila when he killed Emma. Honestly...it's time for Bell to pull the plug on this character.
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"What Pine Cone has brought together...let no one put asunder."
Not With Hope On This
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
I don't want her to set Thomas up. I didn't like it when she and Liam did it at Zoe's wedding. That would mean she is playing with his feelings and therefore putting the children in danger. Please no. If she is playing Thomas and he finds out, he may snap and kidnap her... or worse. I'm disappoinred she isn't more suspicious of Thomas too, but I don't see the outrage about today's episode. So what if she thinks he is attractive? Thomas is my least favorite guys on the show but I also find MA hot... big deal. Brooke found Thomas very attractive too, but she never crossed any line with him.
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Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
As far as the last part about Paris, I agree, but I think Hope probably thought she could say what she did and Paris would understand what she meant and wouldn't go blabbing it all over the place with the wrong connotation.
Not With Hope On This
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
I don't agree with that. Lot's of married women will say some guy is "hot" say at a beach, but it doesn't make it inappropriate unless she goes after him and cheats on her husband. Not to mention, Hope only said it because Paris was so pushy about Thomas' "hotness". Besides, Hope actually said that she loves her husband Liam and thinks that HE'S the hottest guy in the world. Funny, sneaky Paris conveniently left out this part when she spoke to Thomas. Paris is a liar trying to stir trouble. 
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Not With Hope On This
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
She was never the brightest bulb …she would be interesting morphing into a sleez like her mom and just follow her heart into toms bed
Not With Hope On This
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
But didn't you love MA's reaction when Paris told him what Hope said? I was hysterical.
"HOPE THINKS I'M HOT; WHOOOOOOOO!!!!... BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!" Someone could have informed him he won the super Mega Millions jackpot in that specific moment, he wouldn't have heard it. 
One of the best scenes I've seen in a while.
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
But didn't you love MA's reaction when Paris told him what Hope said? I was hysterical."HOPE THINKS I'M HOT; WHOOOOOOOO!!!!... BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!" Someone could have informed him he won the super Mega Millions jackpot in that specific moment, he wouldn't have heard it.
One of the best scenes I've seen in a while.
You remind me of the claymation Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer when he goes: "She said I'm cute!"
Not With Hope On This
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
But didn't you love MA's reaction when Paris told him what Hope said? I was hysterical."HOPE THINKS I'M HOT; WHOOOOOOOO!!!!... BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!" Someone could have informed him he won the super Mega Millions jackpot in that specific moment, he wouldn't have heard it.
One of the best scenes I've seen in a while.
You remind me of the claymation Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer when he goes: "She said I'm cute!"
Aww, I loved the musical film. I've watched it 10 times with my niblings, if not more. 
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Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
But didn't you love MA's reaction when Paris told him what Hope said? I was hysterical."HOPE THINKS I'M HOT; WHOOOOOOOO!!!!... BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!" Someone could have informed him he won the super Mega Millions jackpot in that specific moment, he wouldn't have heard it.
One of the best scenes I've seen in a while.
You remind me of the claymation Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer when he goes: "She said I'm cute!"
Aww, I loved the musical film. I've watched it 10 times with my niblings, if not more.
Thomas is kind of like Rudolph. She thought he was cute and then the truth came out when they saw his red nose. Right now they think he's hot (cute) but when the truth comes out he would look that attractive.
BTW I too loved watching that movie with my grandkids.
Hope is disappointing and it's going to land her in a mess. It's amazing to me that she isn't suspicious of Thomas considering she knows exactly what Thomas is capable of. On top of that, Thomas has been messing with Hope's mother for almost a year and Hope knows all of the crap that Thomas has been spewing. Maybe it's just me, but Beth and Liam should be Hope's priority. She should listen to Liam and Brooke's concerns and stop putting Thomas' needs ahead of everything else. And talking to Paris about Thomas and him being hot was inappropriate. Doesn't matter to me if Paris hounded her. She should not have said anything especially considering how Liam is feeling right now. The only thing that can save Hope from looking like a complete idiot is if she's out to set Thomas up.
But didn't you love MA's reaction when Paris told him what Hope said? I was hysterical."HOPE THINKS I'M HOT; WHOOOOOOOO!!!!... BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!" Someone could have informed him he won the super Mega Millions jackpot in that specific moment, he wouldn't have heard it.
One of the best scenes I've seen in a while.
You remind me of the claymation Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer when he goes: "She said I'm cute!"
Aww, I loved the musical film. I've watched it 10 times with my niblings, if not more.
Thomas is kind of like Rudolph. She thought he was cute and then the truth came out when they saw his red nose. Right now they think he's hot (cute) but when the truth comes out he would look that attractive.
BTW I too loved watching that movie with my grandkids.
True. Only Rudolph uses his abnormality for good, not evil. 
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Oh Liz I agree.
I'm hoping she's the one who finds out about Thomas with their sons help. I'm hoping she will pull what she did with Zoe during that I'll father wedding but with PUBLIC witnesses like the press. Now that I would tune in for.