I think Thomas’ obsession with Hope is also about Steffy (General)

I disagree. I think even if it’s on a subconscious level, Thomas feels that if he could rip Hope away from Liam, he’d be benefiting his sister.

He lost his other sister over her not being able to have the man she wanted, maybe Thomas is afraid the same could happen to his remaining sister if she can’t really have what she wants, or what he believes she wants.

I want to believe in Steffy’s love for Finn but it’s hard to when she seems like she isn’t satisfied with him when she’s so bitter about the Logans.

And if Liam was really available to her?

I don’t know that Finn could compete.

I don’t want or need to believe Steffy wants Liam. But the show’s evidence makes me feel she does.

She said she chose herself but she slept with Liam when Thomas drugged Liam.

She participated in the staged kiss, I don’t know why she would have done that if she didn’t want Liam.

She kept the portrait up even after dating Finn and told Liam that she gazed at it every night and thought of what could be.

She had sex with Liam after dating Finn and she said in a pouty way “so you’re staying with Hope”, as if she had hoped otherwise.

Yes I do believe Liam chose Hope because he could have had Steffy when Hope was pushing him to be with her, when Hope married Thomas, after the staged kiss. He called Hope after the night of drugged sex. He proposed to Hope in front of Steffy and the portrait after the staged kiss. That was Liam’s decision. I think Steffy made it clear she was open to reuniting with him and Liam kept pursuing Hope even when Hope was trying to let Liam go back with Steffy.

Maybe Steffy has lost those feelings for Liam and really did fall in love with Finn, that’s what the show is saying but why I am not convinced is because of her lasting resentment for Hope. She should be thankful that Hope got Liam off her hands since she has a happy life with Finn and wouldn’t if she was still with Liam.

Disgusted? She told Liam that night was amazing and she didn't regret it. That was after she admitted she wished a future with him and Kelly was still possible. Didn't look or sound "disgusted" at all to me. Why call the sex unforgettable and tell him he will always be her greatest gift no matter what, if she was disgusted and didn't want him?
And sorry, but she showed interest in him more than once since she "chose herself.'' Right after Hope and Liam got Beth back, Steffy summonned Liam and asked him for another chance. Liam never had the opportunity to answer because Hope walked in and answered for Liam, and they went home together. Later she agreed to go along with Thomas' plan and threw herself at him after his fight with Hope. She kept her mouth shut for months and only exposed Thomas the day before his fake wedding with Zoe. She also had drugged sex with him the week after Hope signed the annulment papers, and the same day Thomas asked her if she wanted Liam back and she said it'd be fantastic if it happened. I have more examples but I'll stop here.

I hope you’re right. I like Finn and would be sad to see him hurt. I think Sinn makes a prettier couple than Steam.

I think the show is trying to make Finn Steffy’s true love but in order to do that, imo they need to stop having Steffy so resentful of Hope. It raises red flags to me.

And I do wonder if Thomas believes Steffy prefers Finn to Liam.

I disagree. Steffy has called Finn, her soulmate. She had to be put into a mental institution because she couldn't cope with Finn being gone. How does not make Finn, Steffy's "true desire". Finn is Steffy's true love. This was confirmed by the actors.

This has nothing to do with Liam, Steffy does not even talk about him at all or bring him up. He's the last thought on her mind.

Brooke and Ridge have both confirmed that the other is his or her soulmate and destiny, but nevertheless, they get involved with others.

For some reason Hope is the only Logan he doesn’t hate, as shown in that weird fantasy he had that every member of the family was dead but her, and I assume he was fantasizing Beth as part of the dead since she was nowhere in his “Thope family” fantasy…..

I think down deep there’s more to Thomas’ obsession with Hope than Hope herself.

I think part of him as Steffy’s big brother wants to secure Liam for Steffy.

Down deep I think Thomas knows that while Steffy may love Finn, he wasn’t her first choice and I think he wants Steffy to have that. I think he’d turn on Finn in a heartbeat if Steffy could have Liam back because it would certainly benefit Thomas’ own obsession with owning Hope but also I think Thomas believes it’s Steffy’s true desire.

This is why Thope would never work, because Thomas is never going to really love or accept Beth. His dream was for Beth to be raised by someone else or to be deceased. He also hates Beth because she’s a Logan.

That connection of Lope will always bother him and how can Hope be in love with a man that will always resent her daughter?

That ship has sailed. Thomas knows his sister is very happily married to a man who loves only her.
If he hates Beth because she is a Logan then he should hate Hope too since she is a Logan.

agree. i like the fact that Thom appeciates that Finn is in Steffys life

Good points, he is extremely selfish.

What is sad is that if her were to ever get Hope, he would tire of her and toss her aside like he did Sally and Caroline when he is done with her.

I think down deep there’s more to Thomas’ obsession with Hope than Hope herself.

I think part of him as Steffy’s big brother wants to secure Liam for Steffy.

Down deep I think Thomas knows that while Steffy may love Finn, he wasn’t her first choice and I think he wants Steffy to have that. I think he’d turn on Finn in a heartbeat if Steffy could have Liam back because it would certainly benefit Thomas’ own obsession with owning Hope but also I think Thomas believes it’s Steffy’s true desire.

This is why Thope would never work, because Thomas is never going to really love or accept Beth. His dream was for Beth to be raised by someone else or to be deceased. He also hates Beth because she’s a Logan.

That connection of Lope will always bother him and how can Hope be in love with a man that will always resent her daughter?

Jmo, Thomas is too selfish to even think like that. The only reason he would want Liam for Steffy would be to have Hope. Thomas is sick.

Thomas is totally self centered like his parents and sister. A better storyline for him..would be reuniting Steffy and Taylor...because Taylor gave Steffy all of her stock...while he got zip. At least that would be based off of actual history than all this bs they've been spouting day after day for months.

That is true.

I agree with everything you said.

I think down deep there’s more to Thomas’ obsession with Hope than Hope herself.

I think part of him as Steffy’s big brother wants to secure Liam for Steffy.

Down deep I think Thomas knows that while Steffy may love Finn, he wasn’t her first choice and I think he wants Steffy to have that. I think he’d turn on Finn in a heartbeat if Steffy could have Liam back because it would certainly benefit Thomas’ own obsession with owning Hope but also I think Thomas believes it’s Steffy’s true desire.

This is why Thope would never work, because Thomas is never going to really love or accept Beth. His dream was for Beth to be raised by someone else or to be deceased. He also hates Beth because she’s a Logan.

That connection of Lope will always bother him and how can Hope be in love with a man that will always resent her daughter?

Thomas doesn't seem obsessed with Hope now and has not talked about Steffy and Liam forever. He has no interest in what Liam does nor has he said he wants Steffy and Liam to reunite.

Did you miss the scenes with Thomas looking at pictures of Hope on his phone and his Thope flashbacks? Then he told Hope she will always be the woman he wants and he is a one-woman man. I don't know if he is is still obsessed but at the vey least he is still deeply in love and interested in her.

I don't think he wants Steffy and Liam to reunite either. But I kinda agree with the arguments too. He will throw Finn under the bus if Liam wants Steffy back (or vice versa), if he thinks it will benefit him and Hope.