Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas (General)
takerkid 
, 10/1/2022, 5:04AM (584 days ago)
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas. 
That's the only way I can see that happening as she would never knowingly cheat on Liam. It's certainly juicy drama.
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I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
At least with Tom maybe Hope won’t be a dull character maybe she will move from mommy and be a independent gal that has umpf
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
At least with Tom maybe Hope won’t be a dull character maybe she will move from mommy and be a independent gal that has umpf
Be with Thomas, move from mommy to be an independent gal? How does that make her independent? Being with Thomas who is mooching off his grandfather. Thomas needs to grow up, stop mooching and learn to be independent. Maybe after he gets the much needed mental help from a real psychiatrist. And she gets to be with the Forrestors who hate her.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/1/2022, 8:37AM (584 days ago) @SINNful
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/1/2022, 9:44AM (584 days ago) @SINNful
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas would never do something like that. He is also safe with his legal mother, Hope. Douglas loves Brooke and wanted her to hang out, yet Tomas said no about them going bowling together or whatever it was. His Grandma from the mob isnt any better, he barely knows her. Tomas or Steffy did it, IMO No one else on the show is that pathetic to want Daddy with Mommy even though its not working with temper tantrums, they gotta lie. Poor Tomas expected Ridge to fly to back up plan, yet Ridge still wants to talk to his Logan. TRIDGE will never last if Ridge doesnt choose her BY HIS OWN CHOICE, not some set up by his spawn.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/1/2022, 10:14AM (584 days ago) @SINNful
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas would never do something like that. He is also safe with his legal mother, Hope. Douglas loves Brooke and wanted her to hang out, yet Tomas said no about them going bowling together or whatever it was. His Grandma from the mob isnt any better, he barely knows her. Tomas or Steffy did it, IMO No one else on the show is that pathetic to want Daddy with Mommy even though its not working with temper tantrums, they gotta lie. Poor Tomas expected Ridge to fly to back up plan, yet Ridge still wants to talk to his Logan. TRIDGE will never last if Ridge doesnt choose her BY HIS OWN CHOICE, not some set up by his spawn.
You never know with kids. If he heard Brooke saying that stuff to Thomas it would be devastating to him. I think they are putting too much emphasis on Thomas to make him look guilty. And if he’s the one then the show goes back to the way it was before and nothing has changed. Just months of wasted time.
Maybe it will be Donna trying to help her sister. Or maybe there’s too many people in the house for her comfort. She isn’t free to do her honey licking anywhere she likes in the house. lol
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas would never do something like that. He is also safe with his legal mother, Hope. Douglas loves Brooke and wanted her to hang out, yet Tomas said no about them going bowling together or whatever it was. His Grandma from the mob isnt any better, he barely knows her. Tomas or Steffy did it, IMO No one else on the show is that pathetic to want Daddy with Mommy even though its not working with temper tantrums, they gotta lie. Poor Tomas expected Ridge to fly to back up plan, yet Ridge still wants to talk to his Logan. TRIDGE will never last if Ridge doesnt choose her BY HIS OWN CHOICE, not some set up by his spawn.
You never know with kids. If he heard Brooke saying that stuff to Thomas it would be devastating to him. I think they are putting too much emphasis on Thomas to make him look guilty. And if he’s the one then the show goes back to the way it was before and nothing has changed. Just months of wasted time.
Maybe it will be Donna trying to help her sister. Or maybe there’s too many people in the house for her comfort. She isn’t free to do her honey licking anywhere she likes in the house. lol
Well, what has changed, really? Thomas never stopped scheming. The one and only thing that might suggest he changed was when he told Liam that he didn't kill Vinny. But he's also conspired with psycho Sheila, hid Ridge's phone so Brooke couldn't call him, and has been actively trying to break up a marriage. He's also been trashing Brooke and saying nasty things to and about her. Thomas still seems like a sicko to me.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas would never do something like that. He is also safe with his legal mother, Hope. Douglas loves Brooke and wanted her to hang out, yet Tomas said no about them going bowling together or whatever it was. His Grandma from the mob isnt any better, he barely knows her. Tomas or Steffy did it, IMO No one else on the show is that pathetic to want Daddy with Mommy even though its not working with temper tantrums, they gotta lie. Poor Tomas expected Ridge to fly to back up plan, yet Ridge still wants to talk to his Logan. TRIDGE will never last if Ridge doesnt choose her BY HIS OWN CHOICE, not some set up by his spawn.
You never know with kids. If he heard Brooke saying that stuff to Thomas it would be devastating to him. I think they are putting too much emphasis on Thomas to make him look guilty. And if he’s the one then the show goes back to the way it was before and nothing has changed. Just months of wasted time.
Maybe it will be Donna trying to help her sister. Or maybe there’s too many people in the house for her comfort. She isn’t free to do her honey licking anywhere she likes in the house. lol
Well, what has changed, really? Thomas never stopped scheming. The one and only thing that might suggest he changed was when he told Liam that he didn't kill Vinny. But he's also conspired with psycho Sheila, hid Ridge's phone so Brooke couldn't call him, and has been actively trying to break up a marriage. He's also been trashing Brooke and saying nasty things to and about her. Thomas still seems like a sicko to me.
Hiding the phone was bad but when he physically stood in front of Brooke and would not let her in to see her husband I wondered if he would have stopped her by force and hurting her if she had tried to get pass him. Thomas has been threatening to Brooke.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas would never do something like that. He is also safe with his legal mother, Hope. Douglas loves Brooke and wanted her to hang out, yet Tomas said no about them going bowling together or whatever it was. His Grandma from the mob isnt any better, he barely knows her. Tomas or Steffy did it, IMO No one else on the show is that pathetic to want Daddy with Mommy even though its not working with temper tantrums, they gotta lie. Poor Tomas expected Ridge to fly to back up plan, yet Ridge still wants to talk to his Logan. TRIDGE will never last if Ridge doesnt choose her BY HIS OWN CHOICE, not some set up by his spawn.
You never know with kids. If he heard Brooke saying that stuff to Thomas it would be devastating to him. I think they are putting too much emphasis on Thomas to make him look guilty. And if he’s the one then the show goes back to the way it was before and nothing has changed. Just months of wasted time.
Maybe it will be Donna trying to help her sister. Or maybe there’s too many people in the house for her comfort. She isn’t free to do her honey licking anywhere she likes in the house. lol
They could be fooling us and it is Steffy. I will be shocked if it is Douglas. He loves Hope and Brooke. Donna is also not one to call CPS without talking to Eric. IMO, it has to be one of the Tridge kids. They are the only ones in desperation mode for the last 7 months.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas would never do something like that. He is also safe with his legal mother, Hope. Douglas loves Brooke and wanted her to hang out, yet Tomas said no about them going bowling together or whatever it was. His Grandma from the mob isnt any better, he barely knows her. Tomas or Steffy did it, IMO No one else on the show is that pathetic to want Daddy with Mommy even though its not working with temper tantrums, they gotta lie. Poor Tomas expected Ridge to fly to back up plan, yet Ridge still wants to talk to his Logan. TRIDGE will never last if Ridge doesnt choose her BY HIS OWN CHOICE, not some set up by his spawn.
Ridge and Taylor never last even when he does freely choose her.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Liz , 10/1/2022, 10:55AM (584 days ago) @PatriotGirl
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/1/2022, 11:17AM (584 days ago) @Liz
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
Who isnt yammering lately?
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Liz , 10/1/2022, 11:28AM (584 days ago) @SINNful
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
Who isnt yammering lately?
Exactly. The Forrester are the worst of the yammerers.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Liz , 10/1/2022, 11:27AM (584 days ago) @PatriotGirl
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
I do agree with you. Douglas would have said that he feels uncomfortable with his dad. While I wish that Brooke would stop getting in the middle of this situation, I do understand why she's doing it. After all, Thomas has Steffy, Taylor, Finn, Eric and Ridge on his side and Hope has Brooke and Liam. IMO, you can't fault Brooke for her interference and not fault all the others. What is comes down to is this is a matter for Thomas and Hope and everyone needs to butt out, Brooke included.
The only thing that keeps rubbing me the wrong way is the way Douglas answers the question about living with his dad. It seems that the swimming pool, the basketball court and the movie theatre are his top 3 reasons. It's weird.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
I do agree with you. Douglas would have said that he feels uncomfortable with his dad. While I wish that Brooke would stop getting in the middle of this situation, I do understand why she's doing it. After all, Thomas has Steffy, Taylor, Finn, Eric and Ridge on his side and Hope has Brooke and Liam. IMO, you can't fault Brooke for her interference and not fault all the others. What is comes down to is this is a matter for Thomas and Hope and everyone needs to butt out, Brooke included.The only thing that keeps rubbing me the wrong way is the way Douglas answers the question about living with his dad. It seems that the swimming pool, the basketball court and the movie theatre are his top 3 reasons. It's weird.
I keep waiting for somebody, anybody to ask Douglas if he's ready to go home yet. They keep telling him he's living with his dad and maybe wondering if this is what his mommy Hope wants for him instead of living with her.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/1/2022, 1:20PM (584 days ago) @Liz
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
I do agree with you. Douglas would have said that he feels uncomfortable with his dad. While I wish that Brooke would stop getting in the middle of this situation, I do understand why she's doing it. After all, Thomas has Steffy, Taylor, Finn, Eric and Ridge on his side and Hope has Brooke and Liam. IMO, you can't fault Brooke for her interference and not fault all the others. What is comes down to is this is a matter for Thomas and Hope and everyone needs to butt out, Brooke included.The only thing that keeps rubbing me the wrong way is the way Douglas answers the question about living with his dad. It seems that the swimming pool, the basketball court and the movie theatre are his top 3 reasons. It's weird.
He has tennis courts and a pool at Brooke’s house. I think the kid is just happy to be in a home that has room to move around inside. IMO he’s getting too big for that little cabin. Stairs to run up and down. A bedroom that is probably close to the size of the cabin itself. It may have been fine when he was five but now he’s at least 10 and not so little. But Lope seem to be stuck on the staying in the cabin. At Eric’s he gets more room to breathe and more time with his father. If I were him I wouldn’t want to go back to that cramped cabin.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Liz , 10/1/2022, 1:27PM (584 days ago) @PatriotGirl
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
I do agree with you. Douglas would have said that he feels uncomfortable with his dad. While I wish that Brooke would stop getting in the middle of this situation, I do understand why she's doing it. After all, Thomas has Steffy, Taylor, Finn, Eric and Ridge on his side and Hope has Brooke and Liam. IMO, you can't fault Brooke for her interference and not fault all the others. What is comes down to is this is a matter for Thomas and Hope and everyone needs to butt out, Brooke included.The only thing that keeps rubbing me the wrong way is the way Douglas answers the question about living with his dad. It seems that the swimming pool, the basketball court and the movie theatre are his top 3 reasons. It's weird.
He has tennis courts and a pool at Brooke’s house. I think the kid is just happy to be in a home that has room to move around inside. IMO he’s getting too big for that little cabin. Stairs to run up and down. A bedroom that is probably close to the size of the cabin itself. It may have been fine when he was five but now he’s at least 10 and not so little. But Lope seem to be stuck on the staying in the cabin. At Eric’s he gets more room to breathe and more time with his father. If I were him I wouldn’t want to go back to that cramped cabin.
Well, if that's the case, then Douglas has successfully transformed from a loving and secure young man to an entitled Forrester snob. That's a shame that he considers the size of his room and home more important than the love of Hope, Liam and Beth. Best Douglas stays with with his psycho dad and the movie theatre, swimming pool and basketball court. Problem solved and good riddance.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/1/2022, 2:10PM (584 days ago) @Liz
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
I do agree with you. Douglas would have said that he feels uncomfortable with his dad. While I wish that Brooke would stop getting in the middle of this situation, I do understand why she's doing it. After all, Thomas has Steffy, Taylor, Finn, Eric and Ridge on his side and Hope has Brooke and Liam. IMO, you can't fault Brooke for her interference and not fault all the others. What is comes down to is this is a matter for Thomas and Hope and everyone needs to butt out, Brooke included.The only thing that keeps rubbing me the wrong way is the way Douglas answers the question about living with his dad. It seems that the swimming pool, the basketball court and the movie theatre are his top 3 reasons. It's weird.
He has tennis courts and a pool at Brooke’s house. I think the kid is just happy to be in a home that has room to move around inside. IMO he’s getting too big for that little cabin. Stairs to run up and down. A bedroom that is probably close to the size of the cabin itself. It may have been fine when he was five but now he’s at least 10 and not so little. But Lope seem to be stuck on the staying in the cabin. At Eric’s he gets more room to breathe and more time with his father. If I were him I wouldn’t want to go back to that cramped cabin.
Well, if that's the case, then Douglas has successfully transformed from a loving and secure young man to an entitled Forrester snob. That's a shame that he considers the size of his room and home more important than the love of Hope, Liam and Beth. Best Douglas stays with with his psycho dad and the movie theatre, swimming pool and basketball court. Problem solved and good riddance.
That’s not what I said at all. Enjoying the perks at Eric’s doesn’t mean he loves Lope and Beth any less or is becoming a snob. If space isn’t important why has Brooke been living in a mansion that size with just Ridge or sometimes by herself? Does that make her a snob? Eric? Bill? They all live in huge mansions and enjoy the luxuries in life. IMO Lope seems stuck on their romantic notion of what the cabin means to them personally and not about what their growing family needs are. And I think they need more space.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Maybe….maybe not.
Brooke, if she did it, would never use Brooke Logan. IMO, there is no other reason to show the voice app. Tomas was too calm. He should have been freaking, but no, he just keeps saying Brooke did it, and has the look on his face like when he lied about Beth and killed Emma. I believe it is him or Steffy. Brooke never called the police on Taylor for attempted murder, I just dont think she would do it and lie. She would be admitting it. JMO
It’s probably Douglas who did it because he overhead his grandma from the Coven telling his father he was not fit to raise him. It was his way of showing her he is safe and happy there and that cutting an apple with a knife is not child abuse. lol
Douglas lived the abuse and the mental instability of Thomas. In other words, what Brooke said Douglas already knows. And the Douglas we know has always been up front. If he wanted to live with Thomas, he would have told walked into the room if he was eavesdropping and told Brooke or at the very least Hope that the Forrester mansion is where he wants to be permanently.
Then according to that belief, Douglas would have been upfront by now if there was a problem with his father or living there, but he hasn’t. He has only said that he is happy living with his dad. Yet Brooke is over there yammering away.
I do agree with you. Douglas would have said that he feels uncomfortable with his dad. While I wish that Brooke would stop getting in the middle of this situation, I do understand why she's doing it. After all, Thomas has Steffy, Taylor, Finn, Eric and Ridge on his side and Hope has Brooke and Liam. IMO, you can't fault Brooke for her interference and not fault all the others. What is comes down to is this is a matter for Thomas and Hope and everyone needs to butt out, Brooke included.The only thing that keeps rubbing me the wrong way is the way Douglas answers the question about living with his dad. It seems that the swimming pool, the basketball court and the movie theatre are his top 3 reasons. It's weird.
The swimming pool, the basketball court, and the movie theater are the reasons Douglas loves it at Eric's. Thomas is not a reason, or maybe he's fourth.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Drangonfly , 10/1/2022, 8:41AM (584 days ago) @SINNful- 5 people liked this![[OO]](themes/modern/images/score_2.svg "Popular Comment")
Not going to happen. Tom set the whole thing up. Now, Hope has all she needs for full custody
Yup. There's no way the writers would pair Hope up with a psycho. And if Thomas used a voice app to frame Brooke then that's what he is. Still the same psycho he's been for years.
Brooke and Liam isn't going to happen either. I know that would make it easier for Ridge to stay with Taylor, but there hasn't been a single hint that the writers would go there.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.
Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/1/2022, 9:39AM (584 days ago) @BellaSole
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
Why wouldn’t she? I don’t think KKL writes the stories. She just acts what is written.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
Why wouldn’t she? I don’t think KKL writes the stories. She just acts what is written.
Because it's so tasteless. She's told BB she would never do a SL like that again. It's probably in her contract.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/2/2022, 9:51AM (583 days ago) @BellaSole
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
Why wouldn’t she? I don’t think KKL writes the stories. She just acts what is written.
Because it's so tasteless. She's told BB she would never do a SL like that again. It's probably in her contract.
She did Oliver against a wall at Hope’s party. Sleeping with her BIL and getting knocked up was tasteless too. She did both of those after banging Deacon. So if TBTB decide to change things up they can write Briam.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
Why wouldn’t she? I don’t think KKL writes the stories. She just acts what is written.
Because it's so tasteless. She's told BB she would never do a SL like that again. It's probably in her contract.
She did Oliver against a wall at Hope’s party. Sleeping with her BIL and getting knocked up was tasteless too. She did both of those after banging Deacon. So if TBTB decide to change things up they can write Briam.
Both of these examples are very different from what the OP is suggesting here. She didn't decide to bed Oliver. That wasn't a choice they made. Not how it was written. And with Bill, they were already in love when they slept together. She was single and Katie left a letter and told Bill her marriage was over. When they finally slept together, Katie had taken off her ring and made it crystal clear her marriage was officially over. Not that it excuses how quickly they gave in (I agree, it was tasteless), but still totally not comparable to what the OP predicts. According to him, Liam and Brooke are going to make a choice and sleep together while she is still married to Ridge and he is still married to Hope. This is what the OP is predicting.
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Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
PatriotGirl , 10/2/2022, 10:33AM (583 days ago) @IW
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
Why wouldn’t she? I don’t think KKL writes the stories. She just acts what is written.
Because it's so tasteless. She's told BB she would never do a SL like that again. It's probably in her contract.
She did Oliver against a wall at Hope’s party. Sleeping with her BIL and getting knocked up was tasteless too. She did both of those after banging Deacon. So if TBTB decide to change things up they can write Briam.
Both of these examples are very different from what the OP is suggesting here. She didn't decide to bed Oliver. That wasn't a choice they made. Not how it was written. And with Bill, they were already in love when they slept together. She was single and Katie left a letter and told Bill her marriage was over. When they finally slept together, Katie had taken off her ring and made it crystal clear her marriage was officially over. Not that it excuses how quickly they gave in (I agree, it was tasteless), but still totally not comparable to what the OP predicts. According to him, Liam and Brooke are going to make a choice and sleep together while she is still married to Ridge and he is still married to Hope. This is what the OP is predicting.
She didn’t know it was Oliver but it was a tasteless thing to do to have sex against a wall at your daughter’s high school graduation party where any of the kids could have seen them. Katie left the letter because she was suffering from PPD and thought she was going to die. Which she almost did giving birth. Batie . got back together after she was found and got on meds. Brill carried on an emotional affair for months after that. Katie took off her rings after finding Bill in Brooke’s bed after spending the night there. She was angry and had every reason to be. She had called Brooke the night before and Brooke refused to let her talk to her husband. Brooke was banging Bill before Katie was barely out the front door. Tasteless behavior again. Then there was the pregnancy and trying to get Eric to dump Taylor and pretend to be the baby’s father. Marriage hasn’t stopped Liam from cheating before and if he is upset with Hope about Thomas, look out. Ridge will be angry with Brooke and she will be devastated when Ridge leaves her. It’s a perfect storm. lol. It could happen.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
Why wouldn’t she? I don’t think KKL writes the stories. She just acts what is written.
Because it's so tasteless. She's told BB she would never do a SL like that again. It's probably in her contract.
She did Oliver against a wall at Hope’s party. Sleeping with her BIL and getting knocked up was tasteless too. She did both of those after banging Deacon. So if TBTB decide to change things up they can write Briam.
Pretty sure none of the actors have a say in the writing. I would think KKL would welcome a salacious s/l with SC. Brooke's been boring for a very long time IMO.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
But the actors and actresses don't get to decide the storylines. I doubt MA wanted Thomas to be the villain again in this storyline. I doubt SC wanted Liam to mistake his wife with a mannequin and sleep with Steffy. I doubt TK wants to play a jerk with a divided heart for the umpteenth time. I doubt JMW wants to play a bitter character who plots to reunite her parents and whines non-stop. I doubt KKL and KA would pick Ridge for Brooke and Taylor if they could choose a love interest. If Bell decides Brooke and Liam will have an affair, there is nothing they can do against it. They can always leave like RS, but I doubt they would do that.
I still don't think these Briam theories are happening, though. Even if they have a lot of scenes together, I don't see any romantic vibes between them. I'll be shocked if something like that happens.
I'm not so sure about Thomas and Hope on the other hand. MA still never had a story without Hope in 3 years and a half. They have a child together and the 2 actors are here to stay. Maybe one day Bell will decide to write a story for them after all. Maybe, maybe not, but there is a true possibility.
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
None of that will happen. Hope would not betray Liam and she's not interested in Thomas anyway.Liam and Brooke? KKL would never do a SL like that again.
But the actors and actresses don't get to decide the storylines. I doubt MA wanted Thomas to be the villain again in this storyline. I doubt SC wanted Liam to mistake his wife with a mannequin and sleep with Steffy. I doubt TK wants to play a jerk with a divided heart for the umpteenth time. I doubt JMW wants to play a bitter character who plots to reunite her parents and whines non-stop. I doubt KKL and KA would pick Ridge for Brooke and Taylor if they could choose a love interest. If Bell decides Brooke and Liam will have an affair, there is nothing they can do against it. They can always leave like RS, but I doubt they would do that.I still don't think these Briam theories are happening, though. Even if they have a lot of scenes together, I don't see any romantic vibes between them. I'll be shocked if something like that happens.
I'm not so sure about Thomas and Hope on the other hand. MA still never had a story without Hope in 3 years and a half. They have a child together and the 2 actors are here to stay. Maybe one day Bell will decide to write a story for them after all. Maybe, maybe not, but there is a true possibility.
Bell decides what the actors' stories will be but that doesn't mean the actors can't offer input. Just recently TK said in an article that he told Bell that banning Deacon from her home had to be Brooke's decision. I assume he didn't want his character to look like a bully.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
Brooke isn't going to bed Liam, no matter how much you want it to happen. LOL That is more something Taylor would do, go for the young stuff....wait, she already did, she slept with Brooke's son. LOL
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
takerkid , 10/1/2022, 3:04PM (584 days ago) @matisse
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Maybe Ridge will dump Taylor when he goes back to Brooke and Taylor will shoot him in the back.
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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."
"You're the love of my life."
Liam to Hope. Debate over.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Maybe Ridge will dump Taylor when he goes back to Brooke and Taylor will shoot him in the back.
That's a real possibility. While Steffy prefers knives, Taylor does prefer firearms.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Maybe Ridge will dump Taylor when he goes back to Brooke and Taylor will shoot him in the back.
Now that would be great. And, while he is in the hospital he continually calls out for his "destiny" Brooke, over and over and over until Steffy's ears bleed. LOL
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Liz , 10/1/2022, 3:15PM (584 days ago) @takerkid- 2 people liked this
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Taylor doesn't? Phoebe disagrees.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Kammie , 10/1/2022, 9:55PM (584 days ago) @Liz- one person liked this
And in her own rage over Rick and Taylor she caused her own death.... That is two kids that Taylor has destroyed and indirectly caused their deaths... Aly and Phoebe died because Taylor couldn't control her libdo and trampy revenge seeking self. Taylors need for revenge over Brooke caused her own daughters death and she drove Aly insane because the thought of her father sleeping with the lush her killed mother was too unbearable to her. Taylor knew how she felt and did not care one bit for Aly.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
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, Knoxville Tenn., 10/1/2022, 10:02PM (584 days ago) @Kammie
And in her own rage over Rick and Taylor she caused her own death.... That is two kids that Taylor has destroyed and indirectly caused their deaths... Aly and Phoebe died because Taylor couldn't control her libdo and trampy revenge seeking self. Taylors need for revenge over Brooke caused her own daughters death and she drove Aly insane because the thought of her father sleeping with the lush her killed mother was too unbearable to her. Taylor knew how she felt and did not care one bit for Aly.
Exactly. Say what you will about Brooke...but no one has died due to anything she's done. Thomas,Taylor,and Steffy can't say that. Well...they can and would because they're hypocrites...but the proof is onscreen.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
matisse, 10/2/2022, 12:47AM (583 days ago) @takerkid- 4 people liked this![[O]](themes/modern/images/score_1.svg "Popular Comment")
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Taylor most certainly betrayed her children. She did it to Phoebe when she slept with Rick and got engaged to him. She did it to Tom when she proved to him he was not important to her, when she gave Steffy all her FC stock and not 1 share to him. Taylor is a one child woman, and that child is Steffy. She really does not give a damn about Tom, and I don't think she cared much for Phoebe either. IMHO. And BTW, I am not saying this to be just contrary, I absolutely believe that this character has been written to have very little love for her children, other than Steffy. She carried Jack to term, but could not love him because he came from Brooke's egg. She knew Phoebe had very strong emotions and feelings about Rick, but she slept with him anyway, and even worse, Phoebe caught them in bed. At least Bridget never had to see Deacon on top of her mother. Though what they did was horrible. And Tom, I think most of Tom's issues stem from being betrayed by his mother. She betrayed him when she called INS on his wife. She betrayed him when she gave all her stock to Steffy.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Taylor most certainly betrayed her children. She did it to Phoebe when she slept with Rick and got engaged to him. She did it to Tom when she proved to him he was not important to her, when she gave Steffy all her FC stock and not 1 share to him. Taylor is a one child woman, and that child is Steffy. She really does not give a damn about Tom, and I don't think she cared much for Phoebe either. IMHO. And BTW, I am not saying this to be just contrary, I absolutely believe that this character has been written to have very little love for her children, other than Steffy. She carried Jack to term, but could not love him because he came from Brooke's egg. She knew Phoebe had very strong emotions and feelings about Rick, but she slept with him anyway, and even worse, Phoebe caught them in bed. At least Bridget never had to see Deacon on top of her mother. Though what they did was horrible. And Tom, I think most of Tom's issues stem from being betrayed by his mother. She betrayed him when she called INS on his wife. She betrayed him when she gave all her stock to Steffy.
Great post - I was just about to comment the same re: Thomas, especially the stock which absolutely messed him up even more than he was already.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
takerkid , 10/2/2022, 4:33AM (583 days ago) @matisse
The Phoebe situation was more complex than what Brooke did to Bridget. If I'm not mistaken Rick and Phoebe weren't actually in a relationship so that's not technically a betrayal. As far as Thomas goes I don't think he's ever expressed any sense of betrayal by his mother.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
The Phoebe situation was more complex than what Brooke did to Bridget. If I'm not mistaken Rick and Phoebe weren't actually in a relationship so that's not technically a betrayal. As far as Thomas goes I don't think he's ever expressed any sense of betrayal by his mother.
I'll go look for the transcripts for you later. It was a big deal to Phoebe, and yes they had not been seeing each other because she was on tour. She came back hoping to reconcile and instead literally found him on top of her mother. It is what eventually led to her death.
And, I will find the transcript where Tom talks about how little he means in the family and that his mother thought so little of him, she gave all her stock to Steffy.
These are terrible things to do to your children. I know Brooke did it to Bridget, but we are not talking about Brooke. We are talking about someone who claims to be better, and just this week said, she is nothing like Brooke and would not do things she has done. Well. yes she had, and it is time for the writers to cut the crap and start writing other people throwing it in her and the Brats faces.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
The Phoebe situation was more complex than what Brooke did to Bridget. If I'm not mistaken Rick and Phoebe weren't actually in a relationship so that's not technically a betrayal. As far as Thomas goes I don't think he's ever expressed any sense of betrayal by his mother.
Of course he did, more than once. The below dialogue was straight afterwards but he brought it up a lot over the next few years.
24 August 2010
Taylor: I want to make sure you're okay about the stock, about me giving it to your sister.
Thomas: (Chuckles) You don't want to ask me that. No, Mom, I-I'm not okay.
Taylor: (Sighs) Thomas, you don't think I'm playing favorites, do you?
Thomas: Yeah, you were. You gave her all your stock.
Taylor: Well, she's the one who gave it to me in the first place.
Thomas: No she – no she didn’t, she arranged for you to buy it for millions of dollars.
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27 August
Thomas: (Scoffs) Do you see what you've done here, Mom? You've created a monster. You give Steffy all your stock, and now she thinks she's a dictator.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
The Phoebe situation was more complex than what Brooke did to Bridget. If I'm not mistaken Rick and Phoebe weren't actually in a relationship so that's not technically a betrayal. As far as Thomas goes I don't think he's ever expressed any sense of betrayal by his mother.
Of course he did, more than once. The below dialogue was straight afterwards but he brought it up a lot over the next few years.24 August 2010
Taylor: I want to make sure you're okay about the stock, about me giving it to your sister.Thomas: (Chuckles) You don't want to ask me that. No, Mom, I-I'm not okay.
Taylor: (Sighs) Thomas, you don't think I'm playing favorites, do you?
Thomas: Yeah, you were. You gave her all your stock.
Taylor: Well, she's the one who gave it to me in the first place.
Thomas: No she – no she didn’t, she arranged for you to buy it for millions of dollars.
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27 August
Thomas: (Scoffs) Do you see what you've done here, Mom? You've created a monster. You give Steffy all your stock, and now she thinks she's a dictator.
Thank you, I was going to look for it when I had some down time. He has brought it up several times over the years. In fact, over 3 actors playing him. LOL
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Partly because KKL has said she'd never do a SL like that again.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
Partly because KKL has said she'd never do a SL like that again.
Unless KKL is on the writing team, I don't think she has a say in what is written for her character.
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THREE TIME OUTSTANDING LEAD ACTRESS WINNER: Jacqueline MacInnes Wood as Steffy Forrester
THE Steffy Forrester! 9000 episode!
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Taylor doesn't betray her children. That's a Brooke thing. I'm not sure why people are so certain Brooke would never ever do it again. She had two affairs with her sister's husband. That's not a lot better.
That's right. Taylor enables her children's sociopathic behavior. She beds Brooke's children. Or turns her back on them.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
Brooke isn't going to bed Liam, no matter how much you want it to happen. LOL That is more something Taylor would do, go for the young stuff....wait, she already did, she slept with Brooke's son. LOL
I could see Taylor going for Finn, but not Brooke and Liam. They have conversations because they are both on the same page about Thomas. There has never been a whiff of romance between them.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
Brooke isn't going to bed Liam, no matter how much you want it to happen. LOL That is more something Taylor would do, go for the young stuff....wait, she already did, she slept with Brooke's son. LOL
I could see Taylor going for Finn, but not Brooke and Liam. They have conversations because they are both on the same page about Thomas. There has never been a whiff of romance between them.
One stroke of a pen is all it takes. And those conversations can be a spark to more.
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THREE TIME OUTSTANDING LEAD ACTRESS WINNER: Jacqueline MacInnes Wood as Steffy Forrester
THE Steffy Forrester! 9000 episode!
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Liz , 10/1/2022, 11:36AM (584 days ago) @takerkid
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
Brooke and LIam? Not going to happen. Thomas and Hope? Possibly. And, if that happens, Finn and Steffy are in big trouble because Steffy is going to be sniffing around Liam like a dog looking for her bone.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
I'm sure Finn won't mind. He'll just hold her purse while gazing adoringly at her 
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
I'm sure Finn won't mind. He'll just hold her purse while gazing adoringly at her
I don’t dig Finn but it’s better than waffel Liam so guess he has to stick around but he’s more Hopes speed than steffys
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
I'm sure Finn won't mind. He'll just hold her purse while gazing adoringly at her
I don’t dig Finn but it’s better than waffel Liam so guess he has to stick around but he’s more Hopes speed than steffys
No, Steffy likes men she can boss around..wimpy Finn is totally Steffy's speed. LOL.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
I'm sure Finn won't mind. He'll just hold her purse while gazing adoringly at her
I don’t dig Finn but it’s better than waffel Liam so guess he has to stick around but he’s more Hopes speed than steffys
No, Steffy likes men she can boss around..wimpy Finn is totally Steffy's speed. LOL.
Absolutely. Some people say Steffy needs a strong man like Bill, but that would never last beyond a few rolls in the hay. Steffy needs a man she can boss and bully.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
I'm sure Finn won't mind. He'll just hold her purse while gazing adoringly at her
And he'll reward her cheating with flowers and a vow renewal.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I get the distinct impression that the writers are trying to set up Thomas and Hope as a couple. It makes my skin crawl and stomach turn to think about but Hope has been very understanding with Thomas. It's more than being civil for Douglas. She believes the creep has changed and has taken his side against her husband and mother. I've already stated that Brooke's despair over losing Ridge and Liam's frustration with Hope taking Thomas side will lead to them having an affair or at least a one night stand. Hope will find out about it and turn to Thomas.
Thope ain't happening either because Thomas schemed with his CPS stunt. There's no way Hope would fall for that monster when she learns he's at it again with his evil scheme of framing her own mother. LOL.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I don’t see Liam’s sleeping with Brooke. Would she bed him? Sure! Why not?! That’s how she sees such things. But I don’t see Liam’s being with Brooke unless he was completely despondent over Hope’s leaving him for Thomas. And I don’t see Hope’s leaving Liam unless he did something so horrible like sleeping with her mother. So ‘round and ‘round it goes.
Brooke and Liam and Hope and Thomas
I don’t see Liam’s sleeping with Brooke. Would she bed him? Sure! Why not?! That’s how she sees such things. But I don’t see Liam’s being with Brooke unless he was completely despondent over Hope’s leaving him for Thomas. And I don’t see Hope’s leaving Liam unless he did something so horrible like sleeping with her mother. So ‘round and ‘round it goes.
I honestly think Brooke is past deplorable actions like that, and KKL did say she'd never do another SL like Deacon again. We don't even see Brooke and Ridge in their own bedroom anymore. It really seems to me that BB is writing Brooke as more level-headed and mature now. In this SL, she is the adult in the room, the one who's right about Thomas, and the victim of Steffy and Thomas' manipulations and Taylor's chasing a married man.