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takerkid @, 9/27/2022, 6:07PM (588 days ago)- 2 people liked this

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

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krort @, 9/27/2022, 6:16PM (588 days ago) @takerkid- one person liked this

Not a lawyer, do not even play one on TV, but I thought you could share custody but only one partner had physical custody and then they worked it out when the other wanted more time as long as they could work that out.

Wanda

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Bhamgirl, 9/27/2022, 6:27PM (588 days ago) @krort- one person liked this

Not a lawyer, do not even play one on TV, but I thought you could share custody but only one partner had physical custody and then they worked it out when the other wanted more time as long as they could work that out.

Wanda

And Thomas and Hope seemed to be trying to work on a peaceful arrangement but everybody keeps butting in.

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Barbybo, 9/28/2022, 11:35AM (588 days ago) @Bhamgirl

Not a lawyer, do not even play one on TV, but I thought you could share custody but only one partner had physical custody and then they worked it out when the other wanted more time as long as they could work that out.

Wanda


And Thomas and Hope seemed to be trying to work on a peaceful arrangement but everybody keeps butting in.

Especially Brooke she’s allways got the mug on

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Debra, 9/27/2022, 6:49PM (588 days ago) @krort

Shared custody means just that. They should have a schedule in place where Douglas spends equal time in both homes. Hope does not have primary or sole custody.

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Barbybo, 9/28/2022, 11:35AM (588 days ago) @Debra

Shared custody means just that. They should have a schedule in place where Douglas spends equal time in both homes. Hope does not have primary or sole custody.

I think Liam thinks differently ….the kids toms not his

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:12PM (588 days ago) @Debra

Shared custody means just that. They should have a schedule in place where Douglas spends equal time in both homes. Hope does not have primary or sole custody.

She is the physical custodial parent. Not sure about California, but in Indiana that means she has final say-so on extra visiting time for the non-custodial parent.

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Debra, 9/28/2022, 4:29PM (587 days ago) @matisse

Shared custody means just that. They should have a schedule in place where Douglas spends equal time in both homes. Hope does not have primary or sole custody.


She is the physical custodial parent. Not sure about California, but in Indiana that means she has final say-so on extra visiting time for the non-custodial parent.

Only because Thomas has allowed that. They have legal joint custody. Hope does not have sole custody nor does she have the final say so on anything. Joint means joint.

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 4:49PM (587 days ago) @Debra

Shared custody means just that. They should have a schedule in place where Douglas spends equal time in both homes. Hope does not have primary or sole custody.


She is the physical custodial parent. Not sure about California, but in Indiana that means she has final say-so on extra visiting time for the non-custodial parent.


Only because Thomas has allowed that. They have legal joint custody. Hope does not have sole custody nor does she have the final say so on anything. Joint means joint.

No it does not. And on this I am positive. If one parent has been designated the physical custodial parent, while sharing joint custody with the other parent, the PCP has final say on anything done outside the normal custody guidelines, per the state. Meaning. If Hope has PCP, which I think she does, then she can go to Eric's, pack up Douglas, and take him to his other home, which would be his LEGAL address. Tom has had him for quite a while, so Hope would not be out of line, taking him home. It was up to Hope and Tom to decide how they want to split their 50/50 time. But, if they do not have a plan in place, than the PCP makes the final call, unless the other parent want to drag them back to court. They should just split the time and be done with it. The kid can schlep between their homes every other week. It is pretty simple. He can spend one week hearing about how he is a real Forrester and all the BS that goes along with it. Listen to his aunt and old granny Hayes bad mouth his other grandmother. And he can spend the next week with his Spencer family, of which he IS half Spencer, and from them he can learn about his mother and how he is a REAL Spencer and all that BS on their side. Should be great for the kid.

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Debra, 9/28/2022, 6:13PM (587 days ago) @matisse

Shared custody means just that. They should have a schedule in place where Douglas spends equal time in both homes. Hope does not have primary or sole custody.


She is the physical custodial parent. Not sure about California, but in Indiana that means she has final say-so on extra visiting time for the non-custodial parent.


Only because Thomas has allowed that. They have legal joint custody. Hope does not have sole custody nor does she have the final say so on anything. Joint means joint.


No it does not. And on this I am positive. If one parent has been designated the physical custodial parent, while sharing joint custody with the other parent, the PCP has final say on anything done outside the normal custody guidelines, per the state. Meaning. If Hope has PCP, which I think she does, then she can go to Eric's, pack up Douglas, and take him to his other home, which would be his LEGAL address. Tom has had him for quite a while, so Hope would not be out of line, taking him home. It was up to Hope and Tom to decide how they want to split their 50/50 time. But, if they do not have a plan in place, than the PCP makes the final call, unless the other parent want to drag them back to court. They should just split the time and be done with it. The kid can schlep between their homes every other week. It is pretty simple. He can spend one week hearing about how he is a real Forrester and all the BS that goes along with it. Listen to his aunt and old granny Hayes bad mouth his other grandmother. And he can spend the next week with his Spencer family, of which he IS half Spencer, and from them he can learn about his mother and how he is a REAL Spencer and all that BS on their side. Should be great for the kid.

No. She has NOT been legally designated as primary custodian. . Carter has reiterated this recently. Thomas allowing Douglas to stay there longer does not equate a judge or family mediator designating her as the primary custodian. Joint means joint.

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BellaSole, Beverly Hills, California, 9/27/2022, 8:04PM (588 days ago) @krort

Not a lawyer, do not even play one on TV, but I thought you could share custody but only one partner had physical custody and then they worked it out when the other wanted more time as long as they could work that out.

Wanda

Pretty sure you're right, Wanda. It doesn't mean fifty-fifty.

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Grannysmith, 9/27/2022, 8:56PM (588 days ago) @BellaSole- one person liked this

No it’s not correct. Shared custody generally strives for as close to equal time with each parent in each parent’s home as possible or whatever the parents agree upon. But the child has 2 homes. Legal parental rights are determined in joint custody arrangements which are usually part of shared custody agreements so that both parents participate in decisions about the child’s care and welfare…such as schools, health matters, etc. But under shared custody, Douglas does have 2 homes. Brooke’s cabin where Mommy Hope lives is not his only home. Eric’s home is his home, too, since Thomas lives there.

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BellaSole, Beverly Hills, California, 9/27/2022, 9:00PM (588 days ago) @Grannysmith

No it’s not correct. Shared custody generally strives for as close to equal time with each parent in each parent’s home as possible or whatever the parents agree upon. But the child has 2 homes. Legal parental rights are determined in joint custody arrangements which are usually part of shared custody agreements so that both parents participate in decisions about the child’s care and welfare…such as schools, health matters, etc. But under shared custody, Douglas does have 2 homes. Brooke’s cabin where Mommy Hope lives is not his only home. Eric’s home is his home, too, since Thomas lives there.

Oh, I agree with that and agree that Douglas has two homes. I just don't think it always has to be fifty-fifty.

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:19PM (588 days ago) @Grannysmith

No it’s not correct. Shared custody generally strives for as close to equal time with each parent in each parent’s home as possible or whatever the parents agree upon. But the child has 2 homes. Legal parental rights are determined in joint custody arrangements which are usually part of shared custody agreements so that both parents participate in decisions about the child’s care and welfare…such as schools, health matters, etc. But under shared custody, Douglas does have 2 homes. Brooke’s cabin where Mommy Hope lives is not his only home. Eric’s home is his home, too, since Thomas lives there.

A child can have one legal residence, not two, and right now that is Hope's address, not Tom's I think Hope is the legal physical custodial parent at this time. This gives her a few more rights than Tom. They could change it to joint, and then work it all out. But, that would mean 1 week at Hope's, the next week at Tom's. People do it all the time. That way neither has to even seen the other, during their week with their kid.

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Grannysmith, 9/27/2022, 8:47PM (588 days ago) @krort

No ..physical custody is shared…as equally as suitable and possible…the child effectively has two homes. So when they..the Forresters…say Eric’s home is also Douglas’s home (since Thomas is living there), they are correct. Brooke’s cabin where Mommy Hope resides is not “Douglas’s home” meaning his only home as Hope, Brooke and Liam say. They’re wrong.

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Liz @, 9/27/2022, 8:57PM (588 days ago) @Grannysmith

No ..physical custody is shared…as equally as suitable and possible…the child effectively has two homes. So when they..the Forresters…say Eric’s home is also Douglas’s home (since Thomas is living there), they are correct. Brooke’s cabin where Mommy Hope resides is not “Douglas’s home” meaning his only home as Hope, Brooke and Liam say. They’re wrong.

So, when the Forresters say Eric's home is also Douglas's home and his only home they are correct. However, when Brooke, Hope and Liam say Hope and Liam's home is Douglas's home they are wrong? Something doesn't sound right.

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CBS03-12, 9/27/2022, 6:45PM (588 days ago) @takerkid- 5 people liked this[OO]

Carter said JOINT custody when the papers were validated in 2019. If now it's shared then it's just another rewrite.
As for how much time Douglas spends with Thomas, this on on him. Between 2019 and recently, Hope never stopped Thomas if he wanted more time. It's his own fault if he disappeared for weeks after he got caught for Beth. His own fault if he was ashamed of himself and disappeared for months after the Zoe wedding fiasco. His own fault if he chooses not to spend enough time with him. Now all of a sudden he wants 50-50? If Taylor hadn't come back this idea wouldn't even cross his mind. He wants to rip Douglas away from his home, when Douglas needs a smooth, slow transition. One more proof of what a worthless father he is.
When Hope lets him take Douglas, he always leaves him with the nanny or at Steffy's. And when Douglas is with him there is always an agenda. Reunite with Hope, reunite his parents, stir the pot...

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takerkid @, 9/27/2022, 7:30PM (588 days ago) @CBS03-12

As far as we've heard Douglas has been having a blast at Eric's house, drawing and playing chess in with everyone.

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:25PM (588 days ago) @takerkid

As far as we've heard Douglas has been having a blast at Eric's house, drawing and playing chess in with everyone.

Yup, it is all fun and games and very little structure that we have seen. What kid wouldn't want to stuff themselves with ice cream all day and play video games all night, over sitting down at a table with family and eating their vegetables and reading a book before they go to sleep. Hell, I want to go live at Eric's house too. But, I am an adult, not a child who needs structure.

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q, 9/28/2022, 12:52PM (588 days ago) @matisse

As far as we've heard Douglas has been having a blast at Eric's house, drawing and playing chess in with everyone.


Yup, it is all fun and games and very little structure that we have seen. What kid wouldn't want to stuff themselves with ice cream all day and play video games all night, over sitting down at a table with family and eating their vegetables and reading a book before they go to sleep. Hell, I want to go live at Eric's house too. But, I am an adult, not a child who needs structure.

For wanting to get rid of the Logans, Thomas doesn't have a problem pushing Douglas off on Donna. And BTW Douglas seems to like Aunt Donna.

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GracieGirl, 9/27/2022, 7:01PM (588 days ago) @takerkid- 2 people liked this
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It’s how it happened. Thomas was supposed to get one night and now Douglas has not returned home. Thomas initially hung up phone on Hope, twice. There is no such thing as a peaceful agreement with Thomas, not until he wants someone other than Hope. There’s nothing wrong with being a one woman man. There is something wrong with being willing to do anything to get her. I would not be working anything out with someone who kept the whereabouts of my kidnapped daughter a secret because he was trying to get into my pants. you can forgive but not forget.

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takerkid @, 9/27/2022, 7:31PM (588 days ago) @GracieGirl

She can't keep Douglas away from his father. That doesn't she has to be friends with Thomas.

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BellaSole, Beverly Hills, California, 9/27/2022, 8:08PM (588 days ago) @takerkid- 2 people liked this

She can't keep Douglas away from his father. That doesn't she has to be friends with Thomas.

She never tried to keep Douglas from his father, but he also needs to be truthful. When he asks to take him for one night, he needs to keep his word.

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:26PM (588 days ago) @takerkid

She can't keep Douglas away from his father. That doesn't she has to be friends with Thomas.

She has never tried to keep Douglas from Tom, there is not even a bit if evidence to back that up. He is the one that did not come to see his kid. And, for a while, the kid was terrified of him because he physically abused him.

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SINNful, 9/27/2022, 7:11PM (588 days ago) @takerkid- 3 people liked this[O]

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

True. And Thomas can't either. It could be so simple.

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takerkid @, 9/27/2022, 7:33PM (588 days ago) @SINNful

100%. I think he's just afraid if he takes Douglas back to the cabin he will only to see him on Brooke's term since she seems to be trying to control everything

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SINNful, 9/28/2022, 6:46AM (588 days ago) @takerkid

100%. I think he's just afraid if he takes Douglas back to the cabin he will only to see him on Brooke's term since she seems to be trying to control everything

Yes, she is, but only because everyone else just thinks it is fine for Thomas and His family to control everything. it is no one's business except Hope and Thomas, imo

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LadyMac @, 9/27/2022, 7:53PM (588 days ago) @takerkid- 3 people liked this[O]

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

Seems to me Thomas currently has Douglas 100% of the time so that is hardly "shared" custody. So it's not just Liam and Brooke that don't understand the concept.

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Barbybo, 9/28/2022, 12:17PM (588 days ago) @LadyMac

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


Seems to me Thomas currently has Douglas 100% of the time so that is hardly "shared" custody. So it's not just Liam and Brooke that don't understand the concept.

It’s been three or four days no big whoop..kid will be shipped to boarding school soon I bet

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:27PM (588 days ago) @Barbybo

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


Seems to me Thomas currently has Douglas 100% of the time so that is hardly "shared" custody. So it's not just Liam and Brooke that don't understand the concept.


It’s been three or four days no big whoop..kid will be shipped to boarding school soon I bet

It has been 3 weeks on the show.

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BellaSole, Beverly Hills, California, 9/27/2022, 8:03PM (588 days ago) @takerkid

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

I agree that Hope can't expect to monopolize time With Douglas, but shared custody doesn't always mean splitting time equally. A lot of parents have primary custody, then the other parent has the children every weekend or every other weekend. Separated parents often alternate who has the kids for holidays and vacations. Really, shared custody can mean just about anything.

I love the Hope character, but I have to admit, she's being a little inflexible about the time Douglas spends with Thomas, though Thomas isn't being the great dad he's trying to sell himself as being.

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Grannysmith, 9/27/2022, 8:59PM (588 days ago) @BellaSole

Agree about primary custody but I’ve never heard that Hope has primary custody. All I’ve ever heard anyone say is they have shared custody. And in shared custody they try to split the time as equally as possible but they can work it out however they agree. If they cannot agree then a judge well may assign primary custody to one parent. I never heard that that’s the case with Douglas, though.

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BellaSole, Beverly Hills, California, 9/27/2022, 9:01PM (588 days ago) @Grannysmith

Agree about primary custody but I’ve never heard that Hope has primary custody. All I’ve ever heard anyone say is they have shared custody. And in shared custody they try to split the time as equally as possible but they can work it out however they agree. If they cannot agree then a judge well may assign primary custody to one parent. I never heard that that’s the case with Douglas, though.

I agree with that.

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:31PM (588 days ago) @BellaSole

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


I agree that Hope can't expect to monopolize time With Douglas, but shared custody doesn't always mean splitting time equally. A lot of parents have primary custody, then the other parent has the children every weekend or every other weekend. Separated parents often alternate who has the kids for holidays and vacations. Really, shared custody can mean just about anything.

I love the Hope character, but I have to admit, she's being a little inflexible about the time Douglas spends with Thomas, though Thomas isn't being the great dad he's trying to sell himself as being.

Not seeing how Hope was inflexible. She didn't care when Tom kept coming by the cabin. She never told him he could not spend time with him. I think this stuff is stupid. Why didn't Tom just ask his dad and Brooke if he could move into their big house, then Douglas would have both parents on the same property. Brooke would have said yes, because then she would know Douglas was safe and she could see for herself if Tom has really changed. It was a win-win for everyone. That house is huge and it has a wing that is never used. Brooke even said it not too long ago. It is the wing where Maya and Rick lived, and I think it has s separate entrance. Tom could be living there, and not even have to see Brooke very much, if he did not want to.

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q, 9/27/2022, 8:04PM (588 days ago) @takerkid- 3 people liked this[O]

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

Apparently Thomas, Steffy, Taylor and Ridge don't understand either. Everytime Hope, Brooke or Liam say it's time for Douglas to come home they get the response "Douglas is home. He belongs in the Forrestor home.".
Thomas can't monopolize him either.

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Barbybo, 9/28/2022, 11:36AM (588 days ago) @q

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


Apparently Thomas, Steffy, Taylor and Ridge don't understand either. Everytime Hope, Brooke or Liam say it's time for Douglas to come home they get the response "Douglas is home. He belongs in the Forrestor home.".
Thomas can't monopolize him either.

Why can’t they just work out a schedule

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Liz @, 9/28/2022, 8:34AM (588 days ago) @takerkid

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

I didn't realize with shared custody that one person could take him for an overnight adventure and then keep him permanently. That's so weird that that can happen in shared custody.

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:42PM (588 days ago) @Liz

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


I didn't realize with shared custody that one person could take him for an overnight adventure and then keep him permanently. That's so weird that that can happen in shared custody.

It cannot. Hope could file a contempt of court complaint and take it to court. That would happen fast, and if they found that Tom violated the custody agreement by not returning Douglas in the time prescribed in the agreement, he could be held in contempt and face fines and penalties. Or, if Hope goes to pick up Douglas and she is stopped from doing so, she can call the police to come to Eric's home, show them a certified copy of the custody order, and they would remove Douglas from the home, and possibly arrest Tom or anyone that tried to stop her getting her son.

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Rena @, Landover, MD, 9/28/2022, 1:10PM (588 days ago) @Liz

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


I didn't realize with shared custody that one person could take him for an overnight adventure and then keep him permanently. That's so weird that that can happen in shared custody.

I am under the impression that Hope is on board with this extended stay so yes, that can happen in shared custody if the parents both agree.

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Liz @, 9/28/2022, 4:52PM (587 days ago) @Rena

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


I didn't realize with shared custody that one person could take him for an overnight adventure and then keep him permanently. That's so weird that that can happen in shared custody.


I am under the impression that Hope is on board with this extended stay so yes, that can happen in shared custody if the parents both agree.

Hope at this point is trying to keep the situation from getting out of hand. However, she was definitely not in agreement with Thomas keeping Douglas initially.

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Drangonfly @, 9/28/2022, 9:48AM (588 days ago) @takerkid

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

The writers have not made clear exactly what the terms of the custody agreement are. We don't know what the arrangement is supposed to be. We just know that Thomas said he was taking him for one night and that has turned into weeks.

It sounds to me like Hope could challenge that in court but she doesn't want to because that would be bad for Douglas.

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Barbybo, 9/28/2022, 11:34AM (588 days ago) @takerkid

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

Spot on…

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matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:09PM (588 days ago) @takerkid

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.

And obviously Tom does not understand shared custody either. If he did he would know that he does not have a right to keep Douglas as long as he has, without Hope's permission. They share custody, so he needs to share it. Now Hope has not demanded the kid back, yet. So, this is on her. But, in shared custody with a child under a certain age this is how it would go down. There is usually a physical custodial parent. I think we have been led to believe that the physical custodial parent is Hope, since Douglas was shown to primarily be living with her. That means that Tom gets parenting time. He would have a right to Douglas every other weekend, starting at 5PM Friday until 5PM Sunday. He would have him every Wednesday for overnight. They would trade off holidays, every other year. Each parent would have the child for their respective Mother's or Father's Day. Tom would get him for spring break, and 2 weeks in the summer. If Hope is the custodial parent, she has every right to go to Eric's and pack up Douglas and take him home with her, if it were not Tom's days to have him. This is on Hope. And, it is absolutely none of Brooke or Taylor or Steffy or Ridge's business. This is up to Hope. Not even Tom would have a say in whether or not Douglas can be there 24/7 for weeks. If they share joint physical custody, then Douglas would spend one week with Tom, and one week with Hope. And neither has to allow the other to see him during their week. They cannot refuse to let the child talk to them on the phone, but they do not have to allow the parent to see them on their week. I think Hope is trying to keep things peaceful for Douglas' sake. It might be a mistake given that the Hamilton Coven is trying to turn her into nothing more than a babysitter. She should probably talk to Tom about setting up a proper parenting schedule, be it the every other weekend thing for him, or the every other week thing, between both of them.

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Barbybo, 9/28/2022, 12:11PM (588 days ago) @matisse

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


And obviously Tom does not understand shared custody either. If he did he would know that he does not have a right to keep Douglas as long as he has, without Hope's permission. They share custody, so he needs to share it. Now Hope has not demanded the kid back, yet. So, this is on her. But, in shared custody with a child under a certain age this is how it would go down. There is usually a physical custodial parent. I think we have been led to believe that the physical custodial parent is Hope, since Douglas was shown to primarily be living with her. That means that Tom gets parenting time. He would have a right to Douglas every other weekend, starting at 5PM Friday until 5PM Sunday. He would have him every Wednesday for overnight. They would trade off holidays, every other year. Each parent would have the child for their respective Mother's or Father's Day. Tom would get him for spring break, and 2 weeks in the summer. If Hope is the custodial parent, she has every right to go to Eric's and pack up Douglas and take him home with her, if it were not Tom's days to have him. This is on Hope. And, it is absolutely none of Brooke or Taylor or Steffy or Ridge's business. This is up to Hope. Not even Tom would have a say in whether or not Douglas can be there 24/7 for weeks. If they share joint physical custody, then Douglas would spend one week with Tom, and one week with Hope. And neither has to allow the other to see him during their week. They cannot refuse to let the child talk to them on the phone, but they do not have to allow the parent to see them on their week. I think Hope is trying to keep things peaceful for Douglas' sake. It might be a mistake given that the Hamilton Coven is trying to turn her into nothing more than a babysitter. She should probably talk to Tom about setting up a proper parenting schedule, be it the every other weekend thing for him, or the every other week thing, between both of them.

Joint custody they are equal….Hope ain’t head honcho dictating

Nobody Understands Shared Custody

matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:46PM (588 days ago) @Barbybo
edited by matisse, 9/28/2022, 12:50PM

Thomas and Hope have shared custody of Douglas. That means they're supposed to be splitting time equal yet Liam and Brooke don't seem to understand that concept. They act like Thomas only has supervised visitation. They both keep referring to Brooke's cabin as his home but in reality he's got two homes and Hope can't monopolize him.


And obviously Tom does not understand shared custody either. If he did he would know that he does not have a right to keep Douglas as long as he has, without Hope's permission. They share custody, so he needs to share it. Now Hope has not demanded the kid back, yet. So, this is on her. But, in shared custody with a child under a certain age this is how it would go down. There is usually a physical custodial parent. I think we have been led to believe that the physical custodial parent is Hope, since Douglas was shown to primarily be living with her. That means that Tom gets parenting time. He would have a right to Douglas every other weekend, starting at 5PM Friday until 5PM Sunday. He would have him every Wednesday for overnight. They would trade off holidays, every other year. Each parent would have the child for their respective Mother's or Father's Day. Tom would get him for spring break, and 2 weeks in the summer. If Hope is the custodial parent, she has every right to go to Eric's and pack up Douglas and take him home with her, if it were not Tom's days to have him. This is on Hope. And, it is absolutely none of Brooke or Taylor or Steffy or Ridge's business. This is up to Hope. Not even Tom would have a say in whether or not Douglas can be there 24/7 for weeks. If they share joint physical custody, then Douglas would spend one week with Tom, and one week with Hope. And neither has to allow the other to see him during their week. They cannot refuse to let the child talk to them on the phone, but they do not have to allow the parent to see them on their week. I think Hope is trying to keep things peaceful for Douglas' sake. It might be a mistake given that the Hamilton Coven is trying to turn her into nothing more than a babysitter. She should probably talk to Tom about setting up a proper parenting schedule, be it the every other weekend thing for him, or the every other week thing, between both of them.


Joint custody they are equal….Hope ain’t head honcho dictating

Actually I think she is the decider in chief on this one. I think, but could be wrong, she has physical custody of the kid. if so, and even if not and they have 50/50 everything, Tom is in violation of their agreement. Hope is letting it slide, which is a big mistake. Hope needs to take her son home to his other home. Then if Tom wants him the week after, he can meet her somewhere and pick him up. AND return him a week from that day.


I am sure people on this board have lived through this stuff, I have not. But, I know the law. And the law says that if there is just one person assigned physical custodial parent, and the other parent wants to have the child past their designated visiting time, they have to clear it with the custodial parent. Meaning, IF Hope is the custodial parent, Tom cannot just tell her he is keeping Douglas longer than he is allowed to for his visitation. He has to ASK her if she minds. And the reverse holds too. Hope cannot step in and declare she is just taking Douglas away during a time when he is suppose to be with Tom.

Nobody Understands Shared Custody

CaptainHook, 9/28/2022, 2:03PM (588 days ago) @takerkid

I wish Karen and her wife had sole custody of that brat, so sick of him and everyone fighting about what's best for him

Nobody Understands Shared Custody

hopeyougogirl, 9/28/2022, 6:54PM (587 days ago) @CaptainHook

I wish Karen and her wife had sole custody of that brat, so sick of him and everyone fighting about what's best for him

Fine by me..let them take him back to NY. And Hope won't have anymore ties to that creep Thomas....minus one psycho for Hope to deal with in that faux Forrester family.

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