Taylor & Steffy are the good girls - The World of the Bold & the Beautiful Fan Forum

Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

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They're good.....Good for nothing.

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They're good.....Good for nothing.

Only good for making mischief and creating mayhem, then sitting back and watching the pot they stirred boil over. That is Taylor and Steffy. The apple didn't fall far from Taylor's poisonous tree at all.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

There's NOTHING pure, kind, good and terrifc about two faux Forrester women that lie and cheat as well as killing, blackmailing, scheming, stalking, chasing someone else's husband/fiance/man. And let's not forget nasty bully Steffy went after Hope's fiance first and NOT the other around. Let's not forget stupid Taylor's the one that came up with the idea of Liam's wife as Douglas' replacement mommy when Caroline was barely six feet under. It was NEVER Hope's idea to begin with. It was Taylor's idea because she wanted Thomas to go after Liam's wife Hope, so it would free up Hope's husband Liam for her precious Steffy. Too bad it never worked out for the unhinged quack. :rofl Taylor and Steffy are sick IMO..and they don't respect others' marriages/relationships either. I'll take flawed Logan women anytime!

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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They're not pure but they sure have more heart, kindness,..in their little finger than the toxic trio

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Hahahaha :lol

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint.. But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.

I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is the biggest hypocrite on the show.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is the biggest hypocrite on the show.

She really is. Imagine someone with Steffy's past getting in anyone's face about cheating?

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is the biggest hypocrite on the show.

She really is. Imagine someone with Steffy's past getting in anyone's face about cheating?

Someone with Brooke’s past gets to everyone s face about targeting marriage
NOONE tops Brooke is the hypocrite department

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is the biggest hypocrite on the show.

She really is. Imagine someone with Steffy's past getting in anyone's face about cheating?

Someone with Brooke’s past gets to everyone s face about targeting marriage
NOONE tops Brooke is the hypocrite department

Brooke can be a hypocrite at times. That doesn't make Steffy and Taylor any less of one.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is the biggest hypocrite on the show.

How so ? Did she promote abstinence while banging secretly a married man ?
Was she professing her love to the wife while banging her husband like Brooke did to Bridget and Katie ?

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case. And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

A prosecutor would use that as motive in a case against her. It's not a defense.

I couldn't disagree more that Hope chased after Liam. Liam left Steffy because she had sex with his father. Even AFTER that Hope encouraged him to go back to her.

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

A prosecutor would use that as motive in a case against her. It's not a defense.
I couldn't disagree more that Hope chased after Liam. Liam left Steffy because she had sex with his father. Even AFTER that Hope encouraged him to go back to her.

She said she wanted to be there as a friend but when he told her he was ready to forgive his wife she showed her true motive. Hope told Brooke she was pining for Liam the whole time she left didn’t she ?
Basically Hope did what Taylor is doing now …
The only difference is Ridge told Taylor he wanted to be back home and kissed her while Hope pursued Lim when he didn’t want her there

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago
Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

A prosecutor would use that as motive in a case against her. It's not a defense.
I couldn't disagree more that Hope chased after Liam. Liam left Steffy because she had sex with his father. Even AFTER that Hope encouraged him to go back to her.

She said she wanted to be there as a friend but when he told her he was ready to forgive his wife she showed her true motive. Hope told Brooke she was pining for Liam the whole time she left didn’t she ?
Basically Hope did what Taylor is doing now …
The only difference is Ridge told Taylor he wanted to be back home and kissed her while Hope pursued Lim when he didn’t want her there

You're leaving out an important part. Hope told Liam that he should forgive Steffy for what she did with Bill.

Hope: I mean, part of me would like to pick up again where we once were, but... that's not gonna happen. I mean, it's impossible now.

Liam: Because of the baby?

Hope: Well, because of a million reasons, but, yes, the baby is one. A very big one.

Liam: Yeah.

Hope: You know, steffy swore it was a terrible mistake, one regrettable night that would never happen again, and if for any reason I had any doubt, if i ever thought she would ever do that to you again, you know, maybe I'd be thinking differently, but... I believe she's sincere. Look, it's hard to believe that forgiveness could ever be an option, but if you could ever trust her again, trust steffy to honor and respect you and give you and your child the life you deserve -- I mean, don't you think that's worth a try?

Liam: I -- [ Sighs ]

Hope: It's, um, for you. From steffy.

Liam: From steffy.

Hope: She knew I was coming over to see you.

Liam: Well, imagine that, hope logan playing matchmaker for steffy forrester.

Later, when Liam thought he shot Bill and was spiraling, Hope saw that being with Steffy was not good for him. That's when she changed her mind about supporting their marriage.

Of course Hope was pining for Liam. He's the love of her life. They would have been married if Steffy hadn't manipulated them. Doesn't that actually prove that she's a good person? She encouraged him to go back to his wife for the sake of their family even though she was still in love with him.

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago
Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.
At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

A prosecutor would use that as motive in a case against her. It's not a defense.
I couldn't disagree more that Hope chased after Liam. Liam left Steffy because she had sex with his father. Even AFTER that Hope encouraged him to go back to her.

She said she wanted to be there as a friend but when he told her he was ready to forgive his wife she showed her true motive. Hope told Brooke she was pining for Liam the whole time she left didn’t she ?
Basically Hope did what Taylor is doing now …
The only difference is Ridge told Taylor he wanted to be back home and kissed her while Hope pursued Lim when he didn’t want her there

You're leaving out an important part. Hope told Liam that he should forgive Steffy for what she did with Bill.
Hope: I mean, part of me would like to pick up again where we once were, but... that's not gonna happen. I mean, it's impossible now.
Liam: Because of the baby
Hope: Well, because of a million reasons, but, yes, the baby isone. A very big one.
Liam: Yeah.
Hope: You know, steffy swore it was a terrible mistake, one regrettable night that would never happen again, and if for any reason I had any doubt, if i ever thought she would ever do that to you again, you know, maybe I'd be thinking differently, but... I believe she's sincere. Look, it's hard to believe that forgiveness could ever be an option, but if you could ever trust her again, trust steffy to honor and respect you and give you and your child the life you deserve -- I mean, don't you think that's worth a try?
Liam: I -- [ Sighs ]
Hope: It's, um, for you. From steffy.
Liam: From steffy.
Hope: She knew I was coming over to see you.
Liam: Well, imagine that, hope logan playing matchmaker for steffy forrester.
Later, when Liam thought he shot Bill and was spiraling, Hope saw that being with Steffy was not good for him. That's when she changed her mind about supporting their marriage.

So suddenly wrecking a family was fine ?

Of course Hope was pining for Liam. He's the love of her life. They would have been married if Steffy hadn't manipulated them. Doesn't that actually prove that she's a good person? She encouraged him to go back to his wife for the sake of their family even though she was still in love with him.

Hope pretended she wanted to do the right thing but ultimately did the self serving thing
Reminds me of Brooke planning to marry Nick to put the baby first … but ultimately choosing herself before knowing the baby was Ridge and letting Nick in prison .
Intention vs ACTS

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago
Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.
At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life
Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

A prosecutor would use that as motive in a case against her. It's not a defense.
I couldn't disagree more that Hope chased after Liam. Liam left Steffy because she had sex with his father. Even AFTER that Hope encouraged him to go back to her.

She said she wanted to be there as a friend but when he told her he was ready to forgive his wife she showed her true motive. Hope told Brooke she was pining for Liam the whole time she left didn’t she ?
Basically Hope did what Taylor is doing now …
The only difference is Ridge told Taylor he wanted to be back home and kissed her while Hope pursued Lim when he didn’t want her there

You're leaving out an important part. Hope told Liam that he should forgive Steffy for what she did with Bill.
Hope: I mean, part of me would like to pick up again where we once were, but... that's not gonna happen. I mean, it's impossible now.
Liam: Because of the baby
Hope: Well, because of a million reasons, but, yes, the baby isone. A very big one.
Liam: Yeah.
Hope: You know, steffy swore it was a terrible mistake, one regrettable night that would never happen again, and if for any reason I had any doubt, if i ever thought she would ever do that to you again, you know, maybe I'd be thinking differently, but... I believe she's sincere. Look, it's hard to believe that forgiveness could ever be an option, but if you could ever trust her again, trust steffy to honor and respect you and give you and your child the life you deserve -- I mean, don't you think that's worth a try?
Liam: I -- [ Sighs ]
Hope: It's, um, for you. From steffy.
Liam: From steffy.
Hope: She knew I was coming over to see you.
Liam: Well, imagine that, hope logan playing matchmaker for steffy forrester.
Later, when Liam thought he shot Bill and was spiraling, Hope saw that being with Steffy was not good for him. That's when she changed her mind about supporting their marriage.

So suddenly wrecking a family was fine ?

Of course Hope was pining for Liam. He's the love of her life. They would have been married if Steffy hadn't manipulated them. Doesn't that actually prove that she's a good person? She encouraged him to go back to his wife for the sake of their family even though she was still in love with him.

Hope pretended she wanted to do the right thing but ultimately did the self serving thing
Reminds me of Brooke planning to marry Nick to put the baby first … but ultimately choosing herself before knowing the baby was Ridge and letting Nick in prison .
Intention vs ACTS

It was shown that Hope changed her thinking. It was when she saw Liam spiraling and realized that Steffy was toxic for him. I didn't see anything to indicate she was pretending.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago
Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

A prosecutor would use that as motive in a case against her. It's not a defense.
I couldn't disagree more that Hope chased after Liam. Liam left Steffy because she had sex with his father. Even AFTER that Hope encouraged him to go back to her.

She said she wanted to be there as a friend but when he told her he was ready to forgive his wife she showed her true motive. Hope told Brooke she was pining for Liam the whole time she left didn’t she ?
Basically Hope did what Taylor is doing now …
The only difference is Ridge told Taylor he wanted to be back home and kissed her while Hope pursued Lim when he didn’t want her there

So, since its ok for Tay, its ok for Hope. Steff is the one Liam didnt want around because she banged his father :lol

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The only difference is Ridge told Taylor he wanted to be back home and kissed her while Hope pursued Lim when he didn’t want her there

Liam didn't want her there? I remember him being pretty happy that Hope was back in LA and very grateful for her support, especially when he thought he had shot his father.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

OLD? Brooke's super old ancient history gets brought up everyday, so can Steffy's nasty history be brought up. And it wasn't all that long ago that Steffy kissed Liam in her staged kiss stunt..not to mention, she slept with Hope's husband while cheated on her own loyal boyfriend in the process. Hope simply doesn't have Steffy's long cha cha cha history.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

OLD? Brooke's super old ancient history gets brought up everyday, so can Steffy's nasty history be brought up.

Brooke kissed Bill and Deacon recently

And it wasn't all that long ago that Steffy kissed Liam in her staged kiss stunt..not to mention, she slept with Hope's husband while cheated on her own loyal boyfriend in the process. Hope simply doesn't have Steffy's long cha cha cha history.

That’s older than Brooke kissing Deacon and Bill
Steffy didn’t pursue married Liam. HE came to her.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago
Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

OLD? Brooke's super old ancient history gets brought up everyday, so can Steffy's nasty history be brought up.

Brooke kissed Bill and Deacon recently

And it wasn't all that long ago that Steffy kissed Liam in her staged kiss stunt..not to mention, she slept with Hope's husband while cheated on her own loyal boyfriend in the process. Hope simply doesn't have Steffy's long cha cha cha history.

That’s older than Brooke kissing Deacon and Bill
Steffy didn’t pursue married Liam. HE came to her.

Point was if Brooke's ancient history can be brought up, so can Steffy's nasty history..regardless how recent or old.
And doesn't matter if Liam came to her or not, SHE still cheated on her loyal boyfriend Finn by banging Hope's husband.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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And it wasn't all that long ago that Steffy kissed Liam in her staged kiss stunt..not to mention, she slept with Hope's husband while cheated on her own loyal boyfriend in the process. Hope simply doesn't have Steffy's long cha cha cha history.

That’s older than Brooke kissing Deacon and Bill

No, it isn't older than Brooke kissing Bill. That happened in March 2020. Steffy slept with a married Liam in November 2020.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is a HUGE hypocrite. She has the audacity to throw Brooke's kiss with Bill in her face. BILL! who Steffy let crawl all over her when she was married to his son.

Bill was mentionned among SO MANY others
Steffy PAID for her affair with Bill. Brooke NEVER pays

Why do Steffy and Taylor always have excuses but Brooke must pay till the end of time?

Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

I disagree that Steffy and Taylor's past was excused on the show. For the most part it's just ignored...which is what makes them look like giant hypocrites when they get in other people's faces. I mean, we're talking about attempted murder in Taylor's case.

I agree about that although her motives were understandable. Taylor’s crimes were always motivated by her concern for her children not selfish or self serving acts like Brooke’s for exemple

And Steffy went after taken men like it was her job.

That is OLD. In the last decade it was HOPE who chased after Steffy s husband more often

HOW is that old when you bring up stuff Brooke did 30 years ago??

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Brooke never really pays. Eric consoled HER about Breacon and soon after she got rewarded getting her claws on Ridge.
TPTB gave Taylor and Steffy some excuses. There was none for Breacon or Brill IMO

So Katie herself playing matchmaker for Brill and later taking off her ring after Brooke had tried everything to make him stay with his wife isn't an excuse? But Liam sharing an innocent kiss with Sally is an excuse for Steffy to sleep with his father?
Also, if that kiss was so despicable that it gave Steffy a free pass to cheat in an even worse way, then how does Taylor have any excuse for sleeping with James when she was in the same situation as Liam?

And Brooke definitely paid for keeping Thomas' paternity a secret from Ridge. It took her 4 years to get another chance with him, while Taylor got rewarded with a wedding and a happy little family for keeping the same secret. Or in the Taboo storyline Brooke even paid for something she had never done. And losing a baby or learning that the "wrong" man is her baby's father is also a way of paying. Steffy's two paternity tests on the other hand turned out exactly the way she wanted.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

Hope's not perfect, but she's NEVER needed two paternity tests due to cheatings/adultery.
She's NEVER banged her FIL and kept it a secret.
She's NEVER chased/seduced multiple married/engaged/taken men like Steffy did a married Bill/engaged Liam/taken Liam(with Ivy)/taken Oliver(with Hope).
She's NEVER blackmailed multiple people like Steffy had.
She's NEVER been triger happy shooting someone or actually killed anyone either.
I'll take a flawed Hope over witch Steffy anytime.

At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.
Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.
The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

Steffy is most definitely a hypocrite.
She sat on her high horse judged Quinn for her manipulation, judged Ivy/Liam for their blackmails, yet she schemed and blackmailed plenty in her life.
She judged Brooke for her cheatings/adultery, yet Steffy committed adultery too.
She demanded respect for her marriage when she herself never resepcted Batie's marriage/Lope's engagement/Livy's relationship either. Heck, she herself disrespected her very own marriage with Liam by banging his father. LOL.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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At least Steffy isn’t an hypocrite.

So she isn't a hypocrite when she bashes Brooke for kissing someone else while being married?

Steffy goes after what she wants but she shows clearly who she is and doesn’t stab in the back people she claims to love like Brooke.

Really? How about keeping it from Thomas that Caroline's terminal illness was nothing but a lie orchestrated by Bill, so he wouldn't go back to Sally, the woman he truly loved, just because Steffy hated her?
And it's hard for her to stab female family members in the back by falling in love with their men when she only has her mother and the only man her mother wants is Steffy's own father.

The worse snakes on the show are Hope who plays the saint when she isn’t and Brooke who is demanding respect for her marriage when she showed NONE all her life

So being a hypocrite is worse than committing actual crimes? Interesting.

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The one who's good but flawed is Steffy. Hope is the heartless one who pretends to be good.Who claimed to have morals while lying, cheating, manipulating dancing on a baby's grave....Steffy fans don't want her any other way.We just want her free from the proping duty and written in character

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

:lol Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

No worse than pill poppng Steffy trying to stab people

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

No worse than pill poppng Steffy trying to stab people

How was Steffy an hypocrite then ?

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

No worse than pill poppng Steffy trying to stab people

How was Steffy an hypocrite then ?

How long do you have tonight? :lol

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

No worse than pill poppng Steffy trying to stab people

How was Steffy an hypocrite then ?

How long do you have tonight?

I am very curious HOW was she hypocrite bc she took pills after her accident… JUST that

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

No worse than pill poppng Steffy trying to stab people

How was Steffy an hypocrite then ?

How long do you have tonight?

I am very curious HOW was she hypocrite bc she took pills after her accident… JUST that

She didnt take them as prescribed. She took too many and bought them off the street. She left them out for her baby to take. Then, she drove, and then she tried to stab her father, Brooke, Liam and Hope.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.
If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..
Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?
But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.
Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

No worse than pill poppng Steffy trying to stab people

How was Steffy an hypocrite then ?

How long do you have tonight?

I am very curious HOW was she hypocrite bc she took pills after her accident… JUST that

She didnt take them as prescribed. She took too many and bought them off the street. She left them out for her baby to take. Then, she drove, and then she tried to stab her father, Brooke, Liam and Hope.

Still the question stands
How does that make her an hypocrite ?

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

Gee, I wonder why she had to compromise on that? Could it be because her evil step-sister was chewing on her man's ear and telling him he could have sex with her any time he wanted if Hope wasn't ready and then tricked him into a marriage? :whistle

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If you compare the four of them I'd say Taylor was written as the "good girl" to Brooke's "bad girl", at least up until a certain point, although Taylor is a HUGE hypocrite because she ain't no saint..

Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

But Steffy is the good girl to Hope's bad girl? No way. Not in any way, shape, or form. Not on any universe. Hope is a saint compared to that manipulative, mean, vengeful, shrieking, hateful witch.

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

There wouldn't have been any of that stuff happening if Steffy hadn't bumped her head in the tub and decided she wanted Hope's fiance for herself and then used every dirty trick in the book to get him, including virgin shaming her own step-sister.

So Hope s so called morals depends on the circumstances ?
Marriage is marriage.

Hope is the most moral person on this show. Steffy is the least.

Hope s level of moral was shown when she was banging Steffy s husband popping pills while promoting abstinence until marriage
Hope is a FRAUD. She talks about morals but doesn’t practice what she preaches

Gee, I wonder why she had to compromise on that? Could it be because her evil step-sister was chewing on her man's ear and telling him he could have sex with her any time he wanted if Hope wasn't ready and then tricked him into a marriage?

Then thanks you to proove her moral and principles were not real and her trust in Liam and their couple was null

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Steffy didn't virgin shame anyone, She just told Liam that Hope could decide for herself but not for him. Hope on the other hand sure slut shamed Steffy.Steffy didn't need tricks to get Liam.He was salivating over her pictures before she showed him any interest.Had lope been in love and committed, Steffy could have walked naked in front of Liam he wouldn't have cheated.And Steffy left lope alone many times, Liam couldn't let her go, chased her.Something Hope, lope fans choose to ignore completly.

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Steffy didn't virgin shame anyone, She just told Liam that Hope could decide for herself but not for him. Hope on the other hand sure slut shamed Steffy.Steffy didn't need tricks to get Liam.He was salivating over her pictures before she showed him any interest.Had lope been in love and committed, Steffy could have walked naked in front of Liam he wouldn't have cheated.And Steffy left lope alone many times, Liam couldn't let her go, chased her.Something Hope, lope fans choose to ignore completly.

Sorry but Steffy straight up virgin shamed Hope.

Liam: Yes. Yeah. Hope and I are at different places on this, but it doesn't change the way I feel about her. It's three months. It's not an eternity.

Steffy: How are you so confident that a ring and a ceremony is gonna change everything?

Liam: Because it's sacred to her, Steffy. I mean, marriage to her-- that--that means more than just a commitment between the two of us.

Steffy: It's just a piece of paper and a few words. It's not that sacred. I guess it could be, you know, socially acceptable. But what, you're gonna be miserable until she puts on the dress and becomes some virginal bride?

Liam: Yeah, don't know, Steffy. It--it's her dream. I mean, it's her-- this is the way that she's imagined it since she was a little girl.

Steffy: So what happens? You guys get married, and things don't work out. What if she doesn't like it?

Liam: (Chuckles) That's not gonna happen.

Steffy: You don't know that. But you should.

Liam: Look, come on. I mean, waiting for marriage, that's--that's traditional.

Steffy: Yeah, that's kind of more like dark ages.

Liam: O-okay, not for everyone.

Steffy: Mm-hmm.

Liam: I mean, it's--granted, it's not the way that you would do it.

Steffy: Or you, if you had a choice.

Liam: You know, on the phone, Hope told me that I was the only man that she'd ever love. I mean, there you go. That's how I feel.

Steffy: Oh, she's a fairy princess who has her handsome prince. But she doesn't know what it's like to be a woman. And, Liam, you need a woman.

Liam: Steffy, I need Hope. I've never felt this way about anyone I asked her to marry me. She said yes. We're gonna spend the rest of our lives together. I mean, when I think of it that way, three months doesn't seem so long anymore. The girl wants to wait? I wait.

And then there were all the times she told Liam that Hope was torturing him for making him wait till marriage and that she would never do that. That Hope was a girl and she was a woman that would give him what he needed so badly.

Liam was a dog for allowing Steffy to come between him and Hope. There is no defense of him. But that doesn't change what Steffy did.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Steffy didn't virgin shame anyone, She just told Liam that Hope could decide for herself but not for him. Hope on the other hand sure slut shamed Steffy.Steffy didn't need tricks to get Liam.He was salivating over her pictures before she showed him any interest.Had lope been in love and committed, Steffy could have walked naked in front of Liam he wouldn't have cheated.And Steffy left lope alone many times, Liam couldn't let her go, chased her.Something Hope, lope fans choose to ignore completly.

Sorry but Steffy straight up virgin shamed Hope.

Liam: Yes. Yeah. Hope and I are at different places on this, but it doesn't change the way I feel about her. It's three months. It's not an eternity.

Steffy: How are you so confident that a ring and a ceremony is gonna change everything?

Liam: Because it's sacred to her, Steffy. I mean, marriage to her-- that--that means more than just a commitment between the two of us.

Steffy: It's just a piece of paper and a few words. It's not that sacred. I guess it could be, you know, socially acceptable. But what, you're gonna be miserable until she puts on the dress and becomes some virginal bride?

Liam: Yeah, don't know, Steffy. It--it's her dream. I mean, it's her-- this is the way that she's imagined it since she was a little girl.

Steffy: So what happens? You guys get married, and things don't work out. What if she doesn't like it?

Liam: (Chuckles) That's not gonna happen.

Steffy: You don't know that. But you should.

Liam: Look, come on. I mean, waiting for marriage, that's--that's traditional.

Steffy: Yeah, that's kind of more like dark ages.

Liam: O-okay, not for everyone.

Steffy: Mm-hmm.

Liam: I mean, it's--granted, it's not the way that you would do it.

Steffy: Or you, if you had a choice.

Liam: You know, on the phone, Hope told me that I was the only man that she'd ever love. I mean, there you go. That's how I feel.

Steffy: Oh, she's a fairy princess who has her handsome prince. But she doesn't know what it's like to be a woman. And, Liam, you need a woman.

Liam: Steffy, I need Hope. I've never felt this way about anyone I asked her to marry me. She said yes. We're gonna spend the rest of our lives together. I mean, when I think of it that way, three months doesn't seem so long anymore. The girl wants to wait? I wait.

And then there were all the times she told Liam that Hope was torturing him for making him wait till marriage and that she would never do that. That Hope was a girl and she was a woman that would give him what he needed so badly.

Liam was a dog for allowing Steffy to come between him and Hope. There is no defense of him. But that doesn't change what Steffy did.

Steffy was definitely making fun of Hope. Nasty girl that she is

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Steffy didn't virgin shame anyone, She just told Liam that Hope could decide for herself but not for him. Hope on the other hand sure slut shamed Steffy.Steffy didn't need tricks to get Liam.He was salivating over her pictures before she showed him any interest.Had lope been in love and committed, Steffy could have walked naked in front of Liam he wouldn't have cheated.And Steffy left lope alone many times, Liam couldn't let her go, chased her.Something Hope, lope fans choose to ignore completly.

Sorry but Steffy straight up virgin shamed Hope.

Liam: Yes. Yeah. Hope and I are at different places on this, but it doesn't change the way I feel about her. It's three months. It's not an eternity.

Steffy: How are you so confident that a ring and a ceremony is gonna change everything?

Liam: Because it's sacred to her, Steffy. I mean, marriage to her-- that--that means more than just a commitment between the two of us.

Steffy: It's just a piece of paper and a few words. It's not that sacred. I guess it could be, you know, socially acceptable. But what, you're gonna be miserable until she puts on the dress and becomes some virginal bride?

Liam: Yeah, don't know, Steffy. It--it's her dream. I mean, it's her-- this is the way that she's imagined it since she was a little girl.

Steffy: So what happens? You guys get married, and things don't work out. What if she doesn't like it?

Liam: (Chuckles) That's not gonna happen.

Steffy: You don't know that. But you should.

Liam: Look, come on. I mean, waiting for marriage, that's--that's traditional.

Steffy: Yeah, that's kind of more like dark ages.

Liam: O-okay, not for everyone.

Steffy: Mm-hmm.

Liam: I mean, it's--granted, it's not the way that you would do it.

Steffy: Or you, if you had a choice.

Liam: You know, on the phone, Hope told me that I was the only man that she'd ever love. I mean, there you go. That's how I feel.

Steffy: Oh, she's a fairy princess who has her handsome prince. But she doesn't know what it's like to be a woman. And, Liam, you need a woman.

Liam: Steffy, I need Hope. I've never felt this way about anyone I asked her to marry me. She said yes. We're gonna spend the rest of our lives together. I mean, when I think of it that way, three months doesn't seem so long anymore. The girl wants to wait? I wait.

And then there were all the times she told Liam that Hope was torturing him for making him wait till marriage and that she would never do that. That Hope was a girl and she was a woman that would give him what he needed so badly.

Liam was a dog for allowing Steffy to come between him and Hope. There is no defense of him. But that doesn't change what Steffy did.

Steffy was definitely making fun of Hope. Nasty girl that she is

Ever since I've been watching the show she's been a nasty person. I don't see anything pure about her. Pure hatred, maybe.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Steffy didn't virgin shame anyone, She just told Liam that Hope could decide for herself but not for him. Hope on the other hand sure slut shamed Steffy.Steffy didn't need tricks to get Liam.He was salivating over her pictures before she showed him any interest.Had lope been in love and committed, Steffy could have walked naked in front of Liam he wouldn't have cheated.And Steffy left lope alone many times, Liam couldn't let her go, chased her.Something Hope, lope fans choose to ignore completly.

Sorry but Steffy straight up virgin shamed Hope.

Liam: Yes. Yeah. Hope and I are at different places on this, but it doesn't change the way I feel about her. It's three months. It's not an eternity.

Steffy: How are you so confident that a ring and a ceremony is gonna change everything?

Liam: Because it's sacred to her, Steffy. I mean, marriage to her-- that--that means more than just a commitment between the two of us.

Steffy: It's just a piece of paper and a few words. It's not that sacred. I guess it could be, you know, socially acceptable. But what, you're gonna be miserable until she puts on the dress and becomes some virginal bride?

Liam: Yeah, don't know, Steffy. It--it's her dream. I mean, it's her-- this is the way that she's imagined it since she was a little girl.

Steffy: So what happens? You guys get married, and things don't work out. What if she doesn't like it?

Liam: (Chuckles) That's not gonna happen.

Steffy: You don't know that. But you should.

Liam: Look, come on. I mean, waiting for marriage, that's--that's traditional.

Steffy: Yeah, that's kind of more like dark ages.

Liam: O-okay, not for everyone.

Steffy: Mm-hmm.

Liam: I mean, it's--granted, it's not the way that you would do it.

Steffy: Or you, if you had a choice.

Liam: You know, on the phone, Hope told me that I was the only man that she'd ever love. I mean, there you go. That's how I feel.

Steffy: Oh, she's a fairy princess who has her handsome prince. But she doesn't know what it's like to be a woman. And, Liam, you need a woman.

Liam: Steffy, I need Hope. I've never felt this way about anyone I asked her to marry me. She said yes. We're gonna spend the rest of our lives together. I mean, when I think of it that way, three months doesn't seem so long anymore. The girl wants to wait? I wait.

And then there were all the times she told Liam that Hope was torturing him for making him wait till marriage and that she would never do that. That Hope was a girl and she was a woman that would give him what he needed so badly.

Liam was a dog for allowing Steffy to come between him and Hope. There is no defense of him. But that doesn't change what Steffy did.

She didn't just put Hope down in front of Liam, Steffy even told her mom and dad that if Hope didn't sleep with Liam she would. What parent doesn't want to hear that.

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Steffy didn't virgin shame anyone, She just told Liam that Hope could decide for herself but not for him. Hope on the other hand sure slut shamed Steffy.Steffy didn't need tricks to get Liam.He was salivating over her pictures before she showed him any interest.Had lope been in love and committed, Steffy could have walked naked in front of Liam he wouldn't have cheated.And Steffy left lope alone many times, Liam couldn't let her go, chased her.Something Hope, lope fans choose to ignore completly.

Sorry but Steffy straight up virgin shamed Hope.

Liam: Yes. Yeah. Hope and I are at different places on this, but it doesn't change the way I feel about her. It's three months. It's not an eternity.

Steffy: How are you so confident that a ring and a ceremony is gonna change everything?

Liam: Because it's sacred to her, Steffy. I mean, marriage to her-- that--that means more than just a commitment between the two of us.

Steffy: It's just a piece of paper and a few words. It's not that sacred. I guess it could be, you know, socially acceptable. But what, you're gonna be miserable until she puts on the dress and becomes some virginal bride?

Liam: Yeah, don't know, Steffy. It--it's her dream. I mean, it's her-- this is the way that she's imagined it since she was a little girl.

Steffy: So what happens? You guys get married, and things don't work out. What if she doesn't like it?

Liam: (Chuckles) That's not gonna happen.

Steffy: You don't know that. But you should.

Liam: Look, come on. I mean, waiting for marriage, that's--that's traditional.

Steffy: Yeah, that's kind of more like dark ages.

Liam: O-okay, not for everyone.

Steffy: Mm-hmm.

Liam: I mean, it's--granted, it's not the way that you would do it.

Steffy: Or you, if you had a choice.

Liam: You know, on the phone, Hope told me that I was the only man that she'd ever love. I mean, there you go. That's how I feel.

Steffy: Oh, she's a fairy princess who has her handsome prince. But she doesn't know what it's like to be a woman. And, Liam, you need a woman.

Liam: Steffy, I need Hope. I've never felt this way about anyone I asked her to marry me. She said yes. We're gonna spend the rest of our lives together. I mean, when I think of it that way, three months doesn't seem so long anymore. The girl wants to wait? I wait.

And then there were all the times she told Liam that Hope was torturing him for making him wait till marriage and that she would never do that. That Hope was a girl and she was a woman that would give him what he needed so badly.

Liam was a dog for allowing Steffy to come between him and Hope. There is no defense of him. But that doesn't change what Steffy did.

She didn't just put Hope down in front of Liam, Steffy even told her mom and dad that if Hope didn't sleep with Liam she would. What parent doesn't want to hear that.

I remember that. And all the times she told Liam that she would give him what Hope wasn't ready to. It was so vile.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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I also find this here interesting:

Steffy: It's just a piece of paper and a few words. It's not that sacred.

That explains how Steffy could sleep so easily with Liam while married to Wyatt and with Bill while married to Liam...will Finn have to experience the same?

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I also find this here interesting:

Steffy: It's just a piece of paper and a few words. It's not that sacred.

That explains how Steffy could sleep so easily with Liam while married to Wyatt and with Bill while married to Liam...will Finn have to experience the same?

Well, she's already cheated on him once before marriage so...

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Steffy didn't virgin shame anyone, She just told Liam that Hope could decide for herself but not for him. Hope on the other hand sure slut shamed Steffy.Steffy didn't need tricks to get Liam.He was salivating over her pictures before she showed him any interest.Had lope been in love and committed, Steffy could have walked naked in front of Liam he wouldn't have cheated.And Steffy left lope alone many times, Liam couldn't let her go, chased her.Something Hope, lope fans choose to ignore completly.

Of course she did. On many occasions both to Oliver and Liam. And yes Steffy needed tricks to get Liam. Why did she scheme with Bill and Thomas if she didn't need tricks? :lol I seriously feel like we watched different soaps. When did Steffy leave Lope alone? When she said that she won't tell Liam about her pregnancy because she wanted him to choose her over Hope because he loves her, but she changed her mind the second she realized that Liam will marry Hope if he won't know about the pregnancy? When she went to Paris just to show up on the day Hope and Liam were supposed to get married to offer her uterus to Liam? When she gave Hope her engagement ring and said that she doesn't want to fight for Liam anymore, but asked Liam if they can be together again few weeks later? When Liam and Hope reconnected and she schemed with Thomas to break them up? When she slept with Hope's husband when she was with Finn? She never left them alone for long and she didn't play with her cards open. We all saw and heard her endless lying. Hope never went after Liam by using lies and dirty tricks.

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Brooke is the BEST in the hypocrite department… isn’t she demanding respect for HER marriage NOW after she restlessly chased after MANY married men and wrecked so many marriages, including her owns she disrespected ?

The last time Brooke has ever chased a married man was more than 20 years ago. And the only married men she has ever chased in her life were Ridge and Thorne, that's far from MANY. She never chased Eric, Deacon, Nick or Bill. They were the ones who relentlessly kept showing up at her house or her workplace, telling her they were done with their wives and trying to persuade her to be with them, not the other way round.
And how does complaining about something that you haven't done in 20 years make you a bigger hypocrite than characters who are complaining about something they've done themselves much more recently?

Until a certain point Hope a was the good girl and Steffy the new Brooke, chasing after who she wanted no matter what …. BUT after Steam first marriage ended, Hope CEASED to be the good girl
After SHE had dumped him, Hope threw herself at Liam when he was living with Steffy
Hope tried to trap Liam in a shotgun wedding
Hope threw herself at married Liam when he just lost his child
Hope had a emotional affair with Liam and secret meetings when she was married to his brother and was expecting his baby
Hope pursued Liam when his (yes I know cheating) wife was pregnant
Hope s halo vanished a long time ago

I don't think you need a halo to be considered a good girl. Hope still has a lot of catching up to do to stoop to Steffy's level. Yes, Hope took advantage of opportunities that presented themselves to her, and yes, she hasn't always been 100% honest and faithful. But I don't remember her ever plotting to destroy another character's life out of jealousy, having sex with someone else while being married, aggressively chasing a taken man using her body or committing any crimes. Compared to Steffy and all the other female characters who have been on the show for more than a few years, Hope is definitely on the "good girl" side.

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Hope, Liam and brooke are the master manipulators, lying cheating manipulating,.....all while playing poor blameless innocent victims, pretending to have morals, to be good.Steffy, Bill, Thomas, the so called manipulators are amators compared to them.More importantly ,lope an brooke proved beyond any doubt that they are heartless

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Hope, Liam and brooke are the master manipulators, lying cheating manipulating,.....all while playing poor blameless innocent victims, pretending to have morals, to be good.Steffy, Bill, Thomas, the so called manipulators are amators compared to them.More importantly ,lope an brooke proved beyond any doubt that they are heartless

I'll go by what I actually saw on the show.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've neveir respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

Taylor used to be good. Now, she and her daughter are the biggest whiner mean girls on television. Nasty women

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They're good for the trash.

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How can Taylor be the good girl when she killed someone and tried to kill someone else twice and let the father of her children rot in jail for her? How can she be a good doctor when she's violated the HIPAA so many times? When it comes to relationships, she is just as bad as Brooke. She has never been faithful or honest with any man she has been with. She is trying to ruin Ridge and Brooke's marriage since the day she came back. She will never be the good girl. She is a homewrecking adultress, a serial attempted killer who never paid for stealing a mother from an innocent little girl.
How Hope wouldn't have Douglas without Brooke? There was nothing wrong with Thomas' brain when he signed the adoption papers. He even tried to sell his son against sex. The surgery came up more than 1 year later. He knew exactly what he was doing. He stated sharing custody with Hope is the best decision he has made in his life. Thar's what he wanted the most. He had months to change his mind and he didn't do it. Hope is Douglas' mother in every way that counts.

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Taylor and Steffy are "good, pure (!) and kind"...I suppose you are joking? :neutral
Good Taylor shot a man in the back and left him to bleed out...pure Steffy had to have a paternity test with each of her children...don´t you think you are just a tiny bit exaggerating at least? :wink

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

And I'm the Queen of England ...

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Steffy is good for Finn. But that’s about it.

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I’m not going to say a word about Taylor and Steffy because the record, the facts speak for themselves. They are definitely not the good girls. The closest thing to a good girl on this soap is Hope. Anything she did with Liam whether he was married to someone else or not is excusable because she knew him first and didn’t get with him because of the manipulation of others and Liam’s weaknesses. As for Douglas, Thomas has no one to blame but himself. He used Douglas and Hope’s grief about their losses to manipulate Hope. I don’t blame Hope at all for making sure that if she’s to take care of Douglas that it’s legal. That’s what people do in the real world. Furthermore, Hope owes Thomas not one thing. Nothing. He threatened people including his own son to keep Beth’s whereabouts a secret. Thomas ought to be grateful that Hope even speaks to him let alone agreed to help raise his son. Hope is not perfect but she’s a hell of alot better character than Steffy or Taylor. She must be. Her haters always talk about how dull she is.

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I couldn't disagree more.

I despise Bully Steffy and her hypocritical criminal powderpuff Mommy.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

I think kid belongs with his dad but fifty fifty o.k ..I am sure Brooke will stir pot and Hope will listen and screw up mom allways gives bad advice to Hope

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

People who purchase children are not good people.

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Steffy and Taylor are sneaky and manipulative and impulsive but they are not good.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

People who purchase children are not good people.

A mom who goes behind Hopes back to a lawyer not telling Hope about Doug’s custody then telling Hope she saw a lawyer was nuts Brooke is not a good mom..Brookes head budinski she should stay out Hopes a adult I know she lives on Brookes lawn but Hope should handle it from now on …Brookes allways stirring it

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

People who purchase children are not good people.

A mom who goes behind Hopes back to a lawyer not telling Hope about Doug’s custody then telling Hope she saw a lawyer was nuts Brooke is not a good mom..Brookes head budinski she should stay out Hopes a adult I know she lives on Brookes lawn but Hope should handle it from now on …Brookes allways stirring it

What do you think Steffy and Taylor are doing? They all need to stay out of it, not just Brooke. Steffy told Ridge to go and get Douglas away from Hope. Can't be more of a pot stirrer than that.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

People who purchase children are not good people.

A mom who goes behind Hopes back to a lawyer not telling Hope about Doug’s custody then telling Hope she saw a lawyer was nuts Brooke is not a good mom..Brookes head budinski she should stay out Hopes a adult I know she lives on Brookes lawn but Hope should handle it from now on …Brookes allways stirring it

Are you really equating child trafficking to a legal consult? That's absurd.

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I know people firsthand who have done the same thing. You don’t raise a child without legal papers. My goodness that’s what adoption is. I’m all for 50-50. I’m all for Douglas spending more time with Thomas. What I’m not for is saying that Hope has done anything wrong or that it was wrong to sign papers. Hope took advantage of Thomas? Heck no. Thomas manipulated Douglas and Hope so he could be with Hope. He deserves whatever happens for his wayward ways.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If what you are saying is true, then Steffy and Taylor have singlehandedly changed the definition of good. They are both horrible hideous characters who lack empathy, kindness, self-reflection and a conscience. Good people don't declare war on families, sabotage others for their own gain, criticize others mistakes that they themselves commit, whine about the bad hand they've been dealt, blame other people for the wrongs in their lives, and dwell on the past. Frankly, I don't consider anyone on the show good. As for Brooke and Hope and manipulating Thomas, well boo hoo. That POS abused his son, emotionally and physically. Good on Brooke and Hope for stepping in to save that boy from repeated acts of trauma. If Douglas is a healthy and happy boy today, it's thanks to the love and support of Hope, Liam and Brooke. And justifying Taylor's inappropriate behaviour and moral ineptitude by pointing at Brooke's past is just deflection. Either chasing after a married man is okay or it isn't. If Taylor is okay for doing for what's she's doing now, then Brooke was okay for doing what she did then.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If what you are saying is true, then Steffy and Taylor have singlehandedly changed the definition of good. They are both horrible hideous characters who lack empathy, kindness, self-reflection and a conscience. Good people don't declare war on families, sabotage others for their own gain, criticize others mistakes that they themselves commit, whine about the bad hand they've been dealt, blame other people for the wrongs in their lives, and dwell on the past. Frankly, I don't consider anyone on the show good. As for Brooke and Hope and manipulating Thomas, well boo hoo. That POS abused his son, emotionally and physically. Good on Brooke and Hope for stepping in to save that boy from repeated acts of trauma. If Douglas is a healthy and happy boy today, it's thanks to the love and support of Hope, Liam and Brooke. And justifying Taylor's inappropriate behaviour and moral ineptitude by pointing at Brooke's past is just deflection. Either chasing after a married man is okay or it isn't. If Taylor is okay for doing for what's she's doing now, then Brooke was okay for doing what she did then.

What I don't get about Steffy is, how on earth did Hope steal Liam from her? It was Hope that was engaged to Liam when Steffy cha cha cha'd between them with her ear chewing and promising him sex because Hope wasn't ready. Hope did not steal Liam. She reunited with him, the love of her life, after Steffy manipulated to get him and then blew it by having sex with his father.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If what you are saying is true, then Steffy and Taylor have singlehandedly changed the definition of good. They are both horrible hideous characters who lack empathy, kindness, self-reflection and a conscience. Good people don't declare war on families, sabotage others for their own gain, criticize others mistakes that they themselves commit, whine about the bad hand they've been dealt, blame other people for the wrongs in their lives, and dwell on the past. Frankly, I don't consider anyone on the show good. As for Brooke and Hope and manipulating Thomas, well boo hoo. That POS abused his son, emotionally and physically. Good on Brooke and Hope for stepping in to save that boy from repeated acts of trauma. If Douglas is a healthy and happy boy today, it's thanks to the love and support of Hope, Liam and Brooke. And justifying Taylor's inappropriate behaviour and moral ineptitude by pointing at Brooke's past is just deflection. Either chasing after a married man is okay or it isn't. If Taylor is okay for doing for what's she's doing now, then Brooke was okay for doing what she did then.

What I don't get about Steffy is, how on earth did Hope steal Liam from her? It was Hope that was engaged to Liam when Steffy cha cha cha'd between them with her ear chewing and promising him sex because Hope wasn't ready. Hope did not steal Liam. She reunited with him, the love of her life, after Steffy manipulated to get him and then blew it by having sex with his father.

That's a good question. Steffy worms her way into Liam's life by teaming up with Bill and using her sexual aspirations. Although Liam marries Steffy after Hope ended things, that marriage wouldn't have happened if Hope hadn't been trapped in the gondola. If Steffy was so confident and secure with Liam, she wouldn't have needed to whine to Bill to stop Hope. Steffy knew what she was doing and knew that she was Liam's wife by default.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If what you are saying is true, then Steffy and Taylor have singlehandedly changed the definition of good. They are both horrible hideous characters who lack empathy, kindness, self-reflection and a conscience. Good people don't declare war on families, sabotage others for their own gain, criticize others mistakes that they themselves commit, whine about the bad hand they've been dealt, blame other people for the wrongs in their lives, and dwell on the past. Frankly, I don't consider anyone on the show good. As for Brooke and Hope and manipulating Thomas, well boo hoo. That POS abused his son, emotionally and physically. Good on Brooke and Hope for stepping in to save that boy from repeated acts of trauma. If Douglas is a healthy and happy boy today, it's thanks to the love and support of Hope, Liam and Brooke. And justifying Taylor's inappropriate behaviour and moral ineptitude by pointing at Brooke's past is just deflection. Either chasing after a married man is okay or it isn't. If Taylor is okay for doing for what's she's doing now, then Brooke was okay for doing what she did then.

What I don't get about Steffy is, how on earth did Hope steal Liam from her? It was Hope that was engaged to Liam when Steffy cha cha cha'd between them with her ear chewing and promising him sex because Hope wasn't ready. Hope did not steal Liam. She reunited with him, the love of her life, after Steffy manipulated to get him and then blew it by having sex with his father.

That's a good question. Steffy worms her way into Liam's life by teaming up with Bill and using her sexual aspirations. Although Liam marries Steffy after Hope ended things, that marriage wouldn't have happened if Hope hadn't been trapped in the gondola. If Steffy was so confident and secure with Liam, she wouldn't have needed to whine to Bill to stop Hope. Steffy knew what she was doing and knew that she was Liam's wife by default.

The idea that Hope should have respected that sham of a marriage is mind blowing.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If what you are saying is true, then Steffy and Taylor have singlehandedly changed the definition of good. They are both horrible hideous characters who lack empathy, kindness, self-reflection and a conscience. Good people don't declare war on families, sabotage others for their own gain, criticize others mistakes that they themselves commit, whine about the bad hand they've been dealt, blame other people for the wrongs in their lives, and dwell on the past. Frankly, I don't consider anyone on the show good. As for Brooke and Hope and manipulating Thomas, well boo hoo. That POS abused his son, emotionally and physically. Good on Brooke and Hope for stepping in to save that boy from repeated acts of trauma. If Douglas is a healthy and happy boy today, it's thanks to the love and support of Hope, Liam and Brooke. And justifying Taylor's inappropriate behaviour and moral ineptitude by pointing at Brooke's past is just deflection. Either chasing after a married man is okay or it isn't. If Taylor is okay for doing for what's she's doing now, then Brooke was okay for doing what she did then.

What I don't get about Steffy is, how on earth did Hope steal Liam from her? It was Hope that was engaged to Liam when Steffy cha cha cha'd between them with her ear chewing and promising him sex because Hope wasn't ready. Hope did not steal Liam. She reunited with him, the love of her life, after Steffy manipulated to get him and then blew it by having sex with his father.

That's a good question. Steffy worms her way into Liam's life by teaming up with Bill and using her sexual aspirations. Although Liam marries Steffy after Hope ended things, that marriage wouldn't have happened if Hope hadn't been trapped in the gondola. If Steffy was so confident and secure with Liam, she wouldn't have needed to whine to Bill to stop Hope. Steffy knew what she was doing and knew that she was Liam's wife by default.

The idea that Hope should have respected that sham of a marriage is mind blowing.

That's because no women on this show can retaliate against nasty bully like Steffy who actually always initiates trouble and hurt others on purpose. Steffy reminds me of a 5 year old in a playground who runs around to snatch other's toys and claims they are her toys..and don't you dare fight back to get your toy back cuz she will accuse you of "stealing" from her. She's nuts! LOL.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If what you are saying is true, then Steffy and Taylor have singlehandedly changed the definition of good. They are both horrible hideous characters who lack empathy, kindness, self-reflection and a conscience. Good people don't declare war on families, sabotage others for their own gain, criticize others mistakes that they themselves commit, whine about the bad hand they've been dealt, blame other people for the wrongs in their lives, and dwell on the past. Frankly, I don't consider anyone on the show good. As for Brooke and Hope and manipulating Thomas, well boo hoo. That POS abused his son, emotionally and physically. Good on Brooke and Hope for stepping in to save that boy from repeated acts of trauma. If Douglas is a healthy and happy boy today, it's thanks to the love and support of Hope, Liam and Brooke. And justifying Taylor's inappropriate behaviour and moral ineptitude by pointing at Brooke's past is just deflection. Either chasing after a married man is okay or it isn't. If Taylor is okay for doing for what's she's doing now, then Brooke was okay for doing what she did then.

What I don't get about Steffy is, how on earth did Hope steal Liam from her? It was Hope that was engaged to Liam when Steffy cha cha cha'd between them with her ear chewing and promising him sex because Hope wasn't ready. Hope did not steal Liam. She reunited with him, the love of her life, after Steffy manipulated to get him and then blew it by having sex with his father.

That's a good question. Steffy worms her way into Liam's life by teaming up with Bill and using her sexual aspirations. Although Liam marries Steffy after Hope ended things, that marriage wouldn't have happened if Hope hadn't been trapped in the gondola. If Steffy was so confident and secure with Liam, she wouldn't have needed to whine to Bill to stop Hope. Steffy knew what she was doing and knew that she was Liam's wife by default.

The idea that Hope should have respected that sham of a marriage is mind blowing.

That's because no women on this show can retaliate against nasty bully like Steffy who actually always initiates trouble and hurt others on purpose. Steffy reminds me of a 5 year old in a playground who runs around to snatch other's toys and claims they are her toys..and don't you dare fight back to get your toy back cuz she will accuse you of "stealing" from her. She's nuts! LOL.

Right? She made a career out of manipulating to get Liam from Hope and when she finally does then she demands Hope respect it. She's the most arrogant character on the show.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

If what you are saying is true, then Steffy and Taylor have singlehandedly changed the definition of good. They are both horrible hideous characters who lack empathy, kindness, self-reflection and a conscience. Good people don't declare war on families, sabotage others for their own gain, criticize others mistakes that they themselves commit, whine about the bad hand they've been dealt, blame other people for the wrongs in their lives, and dwell on the past. Frankly, I don't consider anyone on the show good. As for Brooke and Hope and manipulating Thomas, well boo hoo. That POS abused his son, emotionally and physically. Good on Brooke and Hope for stepping in to save that boy from repeated acts of trauma. If Douglas is a healthy and happy boy today, it's thanks to the love and support of Hope, Liam and Brooke. And justifying Taylor's inappropriate behaviour and moral ineptitude by pointing at Brooke's past is just deflection. Either chasing after a married man is okay or it isn't. If Taylor is okay for doing for what's she's doing now, then Brooke was okay for doing what she did then.

What I don't get about Steffy is, how on earth did Hope steal Liam from her? It was Hope that was engaged to Liam when Steffy cha cha cha'd between them with her ear chewing and promising him sex because Hope wasn't ready. Hope did not steal Liam. She reunited with him, the love of her life, after Steffy manipulated to get him and then blew it by having sex with his father.

That's a good question. Steffy worms her way into Liam's life by teaming up with Bill and using her sexual aspirations. Although Liam marries Steffy after Hope ended things, that marriage wouldn't have happened if Hope hadn't been trapped in the gondola. If Steffy was so confident and secure with Liam, she wouldn't have needed to whine to Bill to stop Hope. Steffy knew what she was doing and knew that she was Liam's wife by default.

The idea that Hope should have respected that sham of a marriage is mind blowing.

That's because no women on this show can retaliate against nasty bully like Steffy who actually always initiates trouble and hurt others on purpose. Steffy reminds me of a 5 year old in a playground who runs around to snatch other's toys and claims they are her toys..and don't you dare fight back to get your toy back cuz she will accuse you of "stealing" from her. She's nuts! LOL.

Right? She made a career out of manipulating to get Liam from Hope and when she finally does then she demands Hope respect it. She's the most arrogant character on the show.

I’d say her parents are right up there with her as the most arrogant ones. ;-)

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You must be watching a different show, lol.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

I have so many things to say to this post that I don't even know where to start. First of all, no disrespect but I don't get the need that Steffy fans have to paint her as some kind of angel, when on the other hand most Steffy fans say they love that she's not perfect and accept her as she is. I'm a Brooke fan but I have no illusions about Brooke. Right now she has been written as drastically mellowed down but in her prime years the last thing I would have described her as is a good girl. She was the antithesis of Taylor and I loved that about her. I also have no problem calling her out when she's wrong. I don't make any excuses for her.

Secondly, do you know what was the first thing Steffy did when she finally got her hands on Liam after begging, cha cha cha ing, trapping Hope in a gondola with the help of her exlover Bill, and nonstop pursuing Liam even though he was engaged to Hope and kept telling her he wasn't interested? The first thing she did was tell Hope to back off and respect her marriage. That after showing zero respect for Hopes relationship. That's the very definition of Hypocrisy and yes I used an upper case H on purpose. And by the way, in no part of that storyline was Steffy good, kind or pure. Neither was she good, kind or pure when she needed paternity tests for both her pregnancies.

Thirdly, good, kind people do not shoot others and leave them for dead. Nor do they run down people while driving drunk and hide it for months. AND they do not constantly throw people's mistakes in their face, ESPECIALLY when they've made the same mistakes themselves. That is the very definition of two-faced and hypocritical, and that is what Steffy and Taylor are.

I don't even know what to say about the word pure as it relates to Steffy. Maybe a pure arrogant, self entitled brat? That's the only way that adjective fits her.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

In my opinion, Steffy was never a "good girl". She always came across as the typical "high school mean girl bully" type to me. She is very often very confrontative and unpleasant. And she has an unbecoming superiority complex, perpetually acting like what she wants or needs is more important than what other people want or need. Case in point, her ridiculous crusade to reunite her parents who have not actually been together in, like, 15 years, while disregarding how that means breaking up the marriage of her younger brother's parents. She just doesn't strike me as a very nice or friendly person to be around.

Taylor it can be argued used to be a good person (from about 1992 to 2002). Perhaps not as good as she presented herself, and definitely morally flawed, but in general a person whose overall behavior was often kind and compassionate (although there were certainly exceptions). But post 2005, Taylor's character has been a complete mess and she has been neither good nor bad, but simply erratic. She just keeps doing random stupid things with sometimes catastrophic consequences. She never comes across as mean the way Steffy does, but her actions aren't consistent with goodness either (especially shooting Bill is one of those things there's just no getting around).

Compared to Brooke and Hope, I'd say Brooke is more like Steffy and Hope is more like Taylor. Like Steffy, Brooke just strikes me as a very unpleasant person as a whole, whereas Hope comes across as kinder but still with some morally questionable actions in her character history.

But I wouldn’t want any of these characters as a friend to be honest. And none of them actually seem to HAVE friends.

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

You lost me at pure... :lol And if Brooke deserves what Taylor is doing with her husband because of ancient history then I guess that Taylor deserves a bullet in the back?

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Yeah, I said it. And in my honest opinion, I think they are good, pure, kind and terrific. Douglas belongs with Thomas. Hope wouldn't even have now if she and Brooke hadn't manipulated Thomas when he was at his lowest darkest place. And Brooke smacking down Taylor for wanting Ridge? Well, karma..... How many occupied men hasn't Brooke snuggled up to over the past 35 years? Couldn't even keep her hands off her daughter's husband. She deserves it. She even pushed Hope on Liam when he was with Steffy. Those two demand that others respect them, but they've never respected anyone else their whole lives. If Taylor & Steffy are full of themselves, then there are no words to describe Hope & Brooke.

exactly, YOUR opinion.

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