If there's a custody case/Thomas's past (Spoilers)

With the way the writing has ignored all past deeds with world renown saintly Taylor and this mess of Ridge and the fact that everyone has to bring up Steffy in every conversation, I am dreading the possible custody sl. I loved Li talking to Steffy but BB most likely will end this fast with Li.

I was looking forward to Liam and Hope having a storyline without any Forresters in sight, but it won’t happen. I will, of course, wait to see, but as much as I had wanted a sl, it won’t be worth watching this angle with the current writing.

If the have to include Thomas family, then I hope Bill steps in for his son, Liam. And put Wyatt in there too. Caroline wanted Liam and Wyatt to be Douglas Godparents for a reason.
Bill could remind Thomas that he and others kept Taylor out of jail. Does Thomas even know what Taylor did?

This would be great if Spencers were included…an actual rounded story with Liam’s family included and, if they do anything with Li and Bill, it would add even more. Thanks for mentioning this. I have been disappointed and frustrated in the writing and just assumed it would continue as it is in current storylines. It could be very good as you suggested.

I'm just hoping they keep Steffy out of it. I'm sure she'll have plenty of nasty things to say and will take Thomas's side, but I hope that's the extent of her involvement in it. Lope need their own story, free of her.

I definitely agree.

If there is a custody case between Thomas and Lope over Douglas, I'm going to be super interested to see how the writers deal with Thomas's past. We know the show likes to ignore certain characters' crimes. Has it even been mentioned since Taylor returned that she shot Bill in the back and left him to die?

It's kind of surprising to me that Thomas would even challenge Hope for custody when you consider all the stuff that could come out about him in court. It makes me wonder if the show will just pretend they never happened.

If they have Thomas regain custody because Hope and Liam never bring up all the things Thomas did, including using Douglas as a pawn in his psychotic scheme to get Hope, that's going to be infuriating.

I wonder if Liam will tell Hope she should let Douglas live with his father. That would certainly add a challenge to their marriage.

That could help what sounds like a very boring s/l. Liam didn't want Douglas to begin with. Didn't Hope throw a fit and throw him out? Can't even remember now.

I think Liam walked out on her and went to Steffy because he already had two kids he was responsible for and didn’t have time for a third. Hope talked with Brooke the next morning and pretty much convinced Hope to give up Douglas for Liam. Hope went over to tell Liam but then saw Steam kissing passionately.

Liam said his plate was full. hope ignored his wishes she’s self centered

And if Hope had listened to Liam's wishes she'd be his doormat. She can't win.
Maybe Liam just didn't want to have his and Hopes life part of Thomas.

If there is a custody case between Thomas and Lope over Douglas, I'm going to be super interested to see how the writers deal with Thomas's past. We know the show likes to ignore certain characters' crimes. Has it even been mentioned since Taylor returned that she shot Bill in the back and left him to die?

It's kind of surprising to me that Thomas would even challenge Hope for custody when you consider all the stuff that could come out about him in court. It makes me wonder if the show will just pretend they never happened.

If they have Thomas regain custody because Hope and Liam never bring up all the things Thomas did, including using Douglas as a pawn in his psychotic scheme to get Hope, that's going to be infuriating.

I wonder if Liam will tell Hope she should let Douglas live with his father. That would certainly add a challenge to their marriage.

That could help what sounds like a very boring s/l. Liam didn't want Douglas to begin with. Didn't Hope throw a fit and throw him out? Can't even remember now.

I think Liam walked out on her and went to Steffy because he already had two kids he was responsible for and didn’t have time for a third. Hope talked with Brooke the next morning and pretty much convinced Hope to give up Douglas for Liam. Hope went over to tell Liam but then saw Steam kissing passionately.

Liam said his plate was full. hope ignored his wishes she’s self centered

Bingo!

If there is a custody case between Thomas and Lope over Douglas, I'm going to be super interested to see how the writers deal with Thomas's past. We know the show likes to ignore certain characters' crimes. Has it even been mentioned since Taylor returned that she shot Bill in the back and left him to die?

It's kind of surprising to me that Thomas would even challenge Hope for custody when you consider all the stuff that could come out about him in court. It makes me wonder if the show will just pretend they never happened.

If they have Thomas regain custody because Hope and Liam never bring up all the things Thomas did, including using Douglas as a pawn in his psychotic scheme to get Hope, that's going to be infuriating.

I wonder if Liam will tell Hope she should let Douglas live with his father. That would certainly add a challenge to their marriage.

That could help what sounds like a very boring s/l. Liam didn't want Douglas to begin with. Didn't Hope throw a fit and throw him out? Can't even remember now.

I think Liam walked out on her and went to Steffy because he already had two kids he was responsible for and didn’t have time for a third. Hope talked with Brooke the next morning and pretty much convinced Hope to give up Douglas for Liam. Hope went over to tell Liam but then saw Steam kissing passionately.

Liam said his plate was full. hope ignored his wishes she’s self centered

That's not how it happened at all. Liam gave Hope an ultimatum and Hope said, nope, I'm not giving up Douglas, and turned down his proposal. It was Liam that came to her later and told her he wanted to marry her and be a family with her, Beth, and Douglas.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

If there is a custody case between Thomas and Lope over Douglas, I'm going to be super interested to see how the writers deal with Thomas's past. We know the show likes to ignore certain characters' crimes. Has it even been mentioned since Taylor returned that she shot Bill in the back and left him to die?

It's kind of surprising to me that Thomas would even challenge Hope for custody when you consider all the stuff that could come out about him in court. It makes me wonder if the show will just pretend they never happened.

If they have Thomas regain custody because Hope and Liam never bring up all the things Thomas did, including using Douglas as a pawn in his psychotic scheme to get Hope, that's going to be infuriating.

I don't see it going to court. Hope will put Douglas's needs first and Douglas will say that he wants to live with his dad and Hope will step aside for Douglas. With the return of Taylor, there is now a real focus on the Tridge family. Douglas living with Hope (Logan) is a problem and the show needs to correct that.

Kid loves his daddy ….kids getting big ..but my bet Hope whines moans and pouts

Why wouldn't she? She is Douglas mother, she loves him and has been taking excellent care of him. What would you want her to do? Pack his bags and be happy he's gone?

If it’s good for the child yes. That’s what Steffy did when her heart was breaking over letting Phoebe go

BTW Liam didn’t really want Douglas while Thomas do now he s better

The Beth situation and what is possibly about to happen with Douglas is not the same or similar.

If there is a custody case between Thomas and Lope over Douglas, I'm going to be super interested to see how the writers deal with Thomas's past. We know the show likes to ignore certain characters' crimes. Has it even been mentioned since Taylor returned that she shot Bill in the back and left him to die?

It's kind of surprising to me that Thomas would even challenge Hope for custody when you consider all the stuff that could come out about him in court. It makes me wonder if the show will just pretend they never happened.

If they have Thomas regain custody because Hope and Liam never bring up all the things Thomas did, including using Douglas as a pawn in his psychotic scheme to get Hope, that's going to be infuriating.

I don't see it going to court. Hope will put Douglas's needs first and Douglas will say that he wants to live with his dad and Hope will step aside for Douglas. With the return of Taylor, there is now a real focus on the Tridge family. Douglas living with Hope (Logan) is a problem and the show needs to correct that.

Kid loves his daddy ….kids getting big ..but my bet Hope whines moans and pouts

Why wouldn't she? She is Douglas mother, she loves him and has been taking excellent care of him. What would you want her to do? Pack his bags and be happy he's gone?

No; however, she should be open to shared custody with Thomas. Right now it seems that Douglas is with Hope full-time and Thomas has visitation. If Thomas feels that he would like more time with Douglas, he should say so and she should be open to it. Thomas has not been a danger to Douglas in quite some time and Douglas has been vocal about missing his Daddy.

If shared custody is what Thomas wants then I don't see a problem with that either.

If there is a custody case between Thomas and Lope over Douglas, I'm going to be super interested to see how the writers deal with Thomas's past. We know the show likes to ignore certain characters' crimes. Has it even been mentioned since Taylor returned that she shot Bill in the back and left him to die?

It's kind of surprising to me that Thomas would even challenge Hope for custody when you consider all the stuff that could come out about him in court. It makes me wonder if the show will just pretend they never happened.

If they have Thomas regain custody because Hope and Liam never bring up all the things Thomas did, including using Douglas as a pawn in his psychotic scheme to get Hope, that's going to be infuriating.

I don't see it going to court. Hope will put Douglas's needs first and Douglas will say that he wants to live with his dad and Hope will step aside for Douglas. With the return of Taylor, there is now a real focus on the Tridge family. Douglas living with Hope (Logan) is a problem and the show needs to correct that.

Kid loves his daddy ….kids getting big ..but my bet Hope whines moans and pouts

Why wouldn't she? She is Douglas mother, she loves him and has been taking excellent care of him. What would you want her to do? Pack his bags and be happy he's gone?

No; however, she should be open to shared custody with Thomas. Right now it seems that Douglas is with Hope full-time and Thomas has visitation. If Thomas feels that he would like more time with Douglas, he should say so and she should be open to it. Thomas has not been a danger to Douglas in quite some time and Douglas has been vocal about missing his Daddy.

I thought the spoilers said or implied that Thomas wanted Douglas to live with him.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

If there is a custody case between Thomas and Lope over Douglas, I'm going to be super interested to see how the writers deal with Thomas's past. We know the show likes to ignore certain characters' crimes. Has it even been mentioned since Taylor returned that she shot Bill in the back and left him to die?

It's kind of surprising to me that Thomas would even challenge Hope for custody when you consider all the stuff that could come out about him in court. It makes me wonder if the show will just pretend they never happened.

If they have Thomas regain custody because Hope and Liam never bring up all the things Thomas did, including using Douglas as a pawn in his psychotic scheme to get Hope, that's going to be infuriating.

Liam is at home watching his kids grow up instead of in jail because Thomas told the truth. Thomas has taken care of both Douglas and Beth at times. He sometimes had all the kids when Steffy was in the hospital. How are Lope going to explain that he shouldn't have primary custody of Douglas when they have at times entrusted their daughter into his care?

That was cool Thomas helped Liam but it doesn't erase all the things he did to Douglas.

That's a fair point you raise about Thomas watching the kids sometimes. Things get dicey, though, when you go to court and the stakes are high. If it comes down to a judge's decision, how will Thomas justify taking Douglas away from Lope? If he tries to say they're not fit then I wouldn't blame Hope and Liam for exposing all the sick things Thomas did.

Why would he say they aren’t fit? Or have to prove they aren’t fit? He is Thomas’ biological and still legal parent who has not given up his parental rights. He has every right to want to become Douglas’ primary parent again. Just because he agreed to make Hope Douglas’ legal mother doesn’t mean that Thomas has to give up primary custody of his son to her forever. Yet it seems that he is expected to and that’s ridiculous.

Hope is also his legal parent. I believe the fight is going to be over where Douglas lives. Thomas will want him to live with him instead of Hope and Liam once Steffy and Taylor get in his ear.

Thomas goes to see Lope tomorrow. Taylor and Steffy don’t appear to be involved in that decision but I’m sure they will support him as they should. It isn’t as if Thomas has never thought about having his son live with him again.