Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope (General)
FancyGirl, 9/16/2024, 10:58AM (359 days ago)- 8 people liked this
Since Hope has amnesia and the writers will never allow her to fight back and bring up Steffy's past of cheating and homewrecking against her, here is a quick reminder for her...
- She spent nearly a decade chasing after Liam when he was with Hope. Begging, seducing, kissing him at every turns. It wasn't just a small attempt, rather a decade of obsession.
- She sometimes went a lot further than chasing after him. She schemed and lied, hid his phone, locked Hope in a gondola, blackmailed him, used her pregnancy and colluded with Bill more than once. Shortly before Finn came in, she was still throwing herself at Liam and conspiring with Thomas to break up Lope (with the phones scam). If it wasn't for her motorcycle accident, there would be no Finn she would still be single and obsessing over Liam.
- She SLEPT with a drugged Liam when he was grieving the death of his baby, before the ink of Lope's annulment papers was dry (sure, Hope moved on and married Thomas even faster, but that doesn't make Steffy look any better). She was claiming to be moving on and at peace with Lope, yet jumped at the first chance to have sex with him...
- She SLEPT with a married and drunk Liam again while she was in a committed relationship with Finn. Was going to keep it secret until Liam left her no choice and chose to tell Hope the truth. She was already making plans to reunite with Liam until he told her he wasn't gonna leave his wife. She got pregnant and thought she was carrying Hope's husband's baby.
- She allowed Hope's husband to kiss her twice while she was married to Finn. Those 2 kisses lasted way too long to not be considered cheating. She remembered thoses kisses for weeks and until she comes clean about it, she is still a lying cheater who locked lips with a married man and broke her vows.
- As if it wasn't enough, she had to do everything she could to destroy Hope and Thomas as well. Begging him to leave Hope the 9 months they were together, brainwashing him, putting ideas in his head, lying by default about his relationship with Paris, bad-mouthing Hope at every turns. They were having a simple diagreement about marriage, they would have worked it out and been happy if Steffy had minded her own business.
Yet now she acts like Hope murdered someone because of one meaningless kiss with Finn? The nerves. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm not defending Hope, she is a mess right now and I will never, ever ever root for her and Finn. But what has she done that's so unredeemable? Since Steffy wrecked her and Thomas, she is dealing stress, headaches and a lot of complicated feelings. It isn't like she is actively begging Finn to leave his wife for her. Or scheming, blackmailing, lying, trapping his wife in a gondola and using seduction tricks to sleep with him. She never talked about love, wanting to be with him or anything like that. She is simply going through a dark period, struggling with a lot of mixed feelings and trying to figure them out. But most is happening in her head and through conversations with Brooke. She hasn't done anything outside of that drunken kiss at the party... something she regretted immediately and hated herself for it since then. Now if the rumors are right, she will tell Finn she doesn't want to see him again and move on with another guy (only a spumor for now, but if true then it was just a harmless crush and nothing else). If anything else happens in the future between Hope and Finn, it will be because Finn allowed it. Steffy should direct her frustration at Finn rather than Sheila and Hope. Finn initiated the friendship just like he chose to forgive Sheila. Finn was interfering between Hope and Thomas long before Hope kissed him. He initiated most of the physical contacts and the massages were his ideas. He told her over and over she deserved better than Thomas and any guy would be the luckiest man in the world to be with her. What married guy says this to a woman his wife despises? He let her believe she could lean on him and he'd always be there for her, even when Steffy was furiously asking him to stay away from Hope. Why isn't he getting more backlash from Steffy and her family? Why is Hope treated like a heartless homewrecker over a kiss when Steffy did a hundreed times worse for a decade? In Steffy's mind, Ridge should have left Brooke forever because Deacon kissed her. Liam should be done with Hope forever because she kissed Thomas. But she gets to stalk Hope's man for a decade, sleep with Hope's husband behind Finn's back, profess her everlasting love to Liam, tell Ivy to stay away from him and get away with everything with zero consequence? It's ok for her to cheat and have a divided heart but Hope is the nastiest woman ever for one kiss while she is single? It's maddening. Steffy has zero credibility when she opens her mouth to bash Hope. The writers need to end this farce right now. Let Steffy and Finn deal with their own miserable, dysfunctional marriage and let Hope get her own story far away from them. What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.
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Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
howeveryouknow, 9/16/2024, 11:10AM (359 days ago) @FancyGirl- one person liked this
edited by howeveryouknow, 9/16/2024, 11:13AM
The only things Finn was wrong about were not minding his own business when it came to Thomas and Hope's relationship and giving over-the-top compliments. However, it was actually Hope who initiated most of their interactions. Finn consistently made it clear to Hope that Steffy is the love of his life and that nothing matters more to him than his wife and kids. There was no confusion or mixed signals—no leading her on. The massages were purely for medical purposes; it was Hope who romanticized and sexualized them. The massages were purely a form of acupuncture.
Steffy blamed the entire kiss on Finn—she even blamed him more than she did Hope, at least before her kidnapping. She claimed that Finn allowed the kiss to happen and let it escalate. For several episodes, she yelled at him, insisting it was his fault that Hope kissed him. She left because she held him responsible for the kiss, and she even brought up his past mistakes involving Sheila to gain leverage in their arguments. We saw a one-sided, hypocritical fight between Steffy and Finn, so I don't believe Finn escaped backlash at all.

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Lizzy54 , Austria, 9/16/2024, 11:31AM (359 days ago) @howeveryouknow- one person liked this
Finn told Thomas months ago that "as long as he (Finn) lives and breathes Hope would never be with Thomas"...this was very weird, it sounded as if he was interested in Hope. And he told Hope more than once, when she was still happy with Thomas, that Thomas was not good enough for her and that another man was probably already waiting for her, and how she was much too good and wonderful, bla bla bla... what husband tells this to another woman, a woman who is not even a friend of his wife´s?
Finn actually acted weird with Hope for months even before Thomas left her. And then the praising started, the way Finn was praising Hope, telling her that the right man for her would come and maybe was already standing before her (while he himself was standing before her) I wouldn´t be surprised if she got the wrong impression about him.
Though it is clear Hope is being delusional and in her mind Finn is a different man than the real Finn is I have to say that Finn´s behaviour with Hope certainly did not help either...
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
howeveryouknow, 9/16/2024, 1:18PM (359 days ago) @Lizzy54- one person liked this
Finn told Thomas months ago that "as long as he (Finn) lives and breathes Hope would never be with Thomas"...this was very weird, it sounded as if he was interested in Hope. And he told Hope more than once, when she was still happy with Thomas, that Thomas was not good enough for her and that another man was probably already waiting for her, and how she was much too good and wonderful, bla bla bla... what husband tells this to another woman, a woman who is not even a friend of his wife´s?
Finn actually acted weird with Hope for months even before Thomas left her. And then the praising started, the way Finn was praising Hope, telling her that the right man for her would come and maybe was already standing before her (while he himself was standing before her) I wouldn´t be surprised if she got the wrong impression about him.
Though it is clear Hope is being delusional and in her mind Finn is a different man than the real Finn is I have to say that Finn´s behaviour with Hope certainly did not help either...
Again, I never said Finn was entirely blameless in the situation. He has said and done things that were inappropriate. But have you noticed that Hope has never once claimed she thought Finn had feelings for her or had any romantic intentions towards her? Have you noticed that Hope consistently says she knows Finn is devoted to Steffy and the kids, but Steffy doesn't appreciate it? And remember, Hope herself admitted she knew Finn wouldn't have reciprocated the kiss—she only kissed him because she thought it would make Finn want her.

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Lizzy54 , Austria, 9/16/2024, 1:37PM (359 days ago) @howeveryouknow
Hope is of course delusional, no question...but I think Finn should think about his part in what happened too. All this over the top praising was not necessary.
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
howeveryouknow, 9/16/2024, 8:28PM (359 days ago) @Lizzy54
Hope is of course delusional, no question...but I think Finn should think about his part in what happened too. All this over the top praising was not necessary.
And he has. He has said he regrets spending time with her. Before Steffy left, he was on his knees begging and asking for forgiveness for not hearing Steffy out when she was warning him about Hope.
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
hopeyougogirl, 9/16/2024, 11:51AM (359 days ago) @howeveryouknow- one person liked this
The only things Finn was wrong about were not minding his own business when it came to Thomas and Hope's relationship and giving over-the-top compliments. However, it was actually Hope who initiated most of their interactions. Finn consistently made it clear to Hope that Steffy is the love of his life and that nothing matters more to him than his wife and kids. There was no confusion or mixed signals—no leading her on. The massages were purely for medical purposes; it was Hope who romanticized and sexualized them. The massages were purely a form of acupuncture.
Steffy blamed the entire kiss on Finn—she even blamed him more than she did Hope, at least before her kidnapping. She claimed that Finn allowed the kiss to happen and let it escalate. For several episodes, she yelled at him, insisting it was his fault that Hope kissed him. She left because she held him responsible for the kiss, and she even brought up his past mistakes involving Sheila to gain leverage in their arguments. We saw a one-sided, hypocritical fight between Steffy and Finn, so I don't believe Finn escaped backlash at all.
Steffy did NOT blame the entire kiss on Finn..she blamed Hope too. Any excuse that Steffy gets to bash and blame Hope, she would do for ONE simple reason..she hates Hope with a passion! That hateful witch holds forever grudges against anyone named Logan..even her own father told her to let go of her grudges, but she will NEVER learned or let go. Her parents blamed Hope for Steffy being in that cage, yet she never corrected her parents either becuase of her deep hatred..never mind the fact that it was STEFFY who stuck her nose where it didn't belong that got STEFFY locked up. Hope has absolutely NOTHING to do with Steffy's own reckless stupidity of following Luna and confronting Luna at all.
And yes, Steffy treated Finn like dirt after he came clean about a kiss he didn't even initiate..it is totally disgusting how that hypocritical lying witch can stand there and claimed he "allowed" it to happen when SHE HERSELF allowed Hope's husband to kiss her too by her own twisted logic. So, when is high and mighty Steffy gonna come clean to Finn?? The typical do as I say and not as I do trashy Steffy never held accountable for her own wrong/bad deeds..where is her backlash?? JMO.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
howeveryouknow, 9/16/2024, 1:25PM (359 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
The only things Finn was wrong about were not minding his own business when it came to Thomas and Hope's relationship and giving over-the-top compliments. However, it was actually Hope who initiated most of their interactions. Finn consistently made it clear to Hope that Steffy is the love of his life and that nothing matters more to him than his wife and kids. There was no confusion or mixed signals—no leading her on. The massages were purely for medical purposes; it was Hope who romanticized and sexualized them. The massages were purely a form of acupuncture.
Steffy blamed the entire kiss on Finn—she even blamed him more than she did Hope, at least before her kidnapping. She claimed that Finn allowed the kiss to happen and let it escalate. For several episodes, she yelled at him, insisting it was his fault that Hope kissed him. She left because she held him responsible for the kiss, and she even brought up his past mistakes involving Sheila to gain leverage in their arguments. We saw a one-sided, hypocritical fight between Steffy and Finn, so I don't believe Finn escaped backlash at all.
Steffy did NOT blame the entire kiss on Finn..she blamed Hope too. Any excuse that Steffy gets to bash and blame Hope, she would do for ONE simple reason..she hates Hope with a passion! That hateful witch holds forever grudges against anyone named Logan..even her own father told her to let go of her grudges, but she will NEVER learned or let go. Her parents blamed Hope for Steffy being in that cage, yet she never corrected her parents either becuase of her deep hatred..never mind the fact that it was STEFFY who stuck her nose where it didn't belong that got STEFFY locked up. Hope has absolutely NOTHING to do with Steffy's own reckless stupidity of following Luna and confronting Luna at all.And yes, Steffy treated Finn like dirt after he came clean about a kiss he didn't even initiate..it is totally disgusting how that hypocritical lying witch can stand there and claimed he "allowed" it to happen when SHE HERSELF allowed Hope's husband to kiss her too by her own twisted logic. So, when is high and mighty Steffy gonna come clean to Finn?? The typical do as I say and not as I do trashy Steffy never held accountable for her own wrong/bad deeds..where is her backlash?? JMO.
Well sorry, but for my terrible wording; but that's what I meant that she put a good majority of the blame onto Finn after he came clean.
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
hopeyougogirl, 9/16/2024, 2:02PM (359 days ago) @howeveryouknow- one person liked this
The only things Finn was wrong about were not minding his own business when it came to Thomas and Hope's relationship and giving over-the-top compliments. However, it was actually Hope who initiated most of their interactions. Finn consistently made it clear to Hope that Steffy is the love of his life and that nothing matters more to him than his wife and kids. There was no confusion or mixed signals—no leading her on. The massages were purely for medical purposes; it was Hope who romanticized and sexualized them. The massages were purely a form of acupuncture.
Steffy blamed the entire kiss on Finn—she even blamed him more than she did Hope, at least before her kidnapping. She claimed that Finn allowed the kiss to happen and let it escalate. For several episodes, she yelled at him, insisting it was his fault that Hope kissed him. She left because she held him responsible for the kiss, and she even brought up his past mistakes involving Sheila to gain leverage in their arguments. We saw a one-sided, hypocritical fight between Steffy and Finn, so I don't believe Finn escaped backlash at all.
Steffy did NOT blame the entire kiss on Finn..she blamed Hope too. Any excuse that Steffy gets to bash and blame Hope, she would do for ONE simple reason..she hates Hope with a passion! That hateful witch holds forever grudges against anyone named Logan..even her own father told her to let go of her grudges, but she will NEVER learned or let go. Her parents blamed Hope for Steffy being in that cage, yet she never corrected her parents either becuase of her deep hatred..never mind the fact that it was STEFFY who stuck her nose where it didn't belong that got STEFFY locked up. Hope has absolutely NOTHING to do with Steffy's own reckless stupidity of following Luna and confronting Luna at all.And yes, Steffy treated Finn like dirt after he came clean about a kiss he didn't even initiate..it is totally disgusting how that hypocritical lying witch can stand there and claimed he "allowed" it to happen when SHE HERSELF allowed Hope's husband to kiss her too by her own twisted logic. So, when is high and mighty Steffy gonna come clean to Finn?? The typical do as I say and not as I do trashy Steffy never held accountable for her own wrong/bad deeds..where is her backlash?? JMO.
Well sorry, but for my terrible wording; but that's what I meant that she put a good majority of the blame onto Finn after he came clean.
But she will never stop blaming Hope..and that is a huge difference between the hypocrite blaming Finn and blaming Hope. JMO. The ONLY reason Finn is now off the hook is because he saved her sorry behind..again.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
Sammy , 9/16/2024, 12:40PM (359 days ago) @howeveryouknow- one person liked this
The only things Finn was wrong about were not minding his own business when it came to Thomas and Hope's relationship and giving over-the-top compliments. However, it was actually Hope who initiated most of their interactions. Finn consistently made it clear to Hope that Steffy is the love of his life and that nothing matters more to him than his wife and kids. There was no confusion or mixed signals—no leading her on. The massages were purely for medical purposes; it was Hope who romanticized and sexualized them. The massages were purely a form of acupuncture.
Steffy blamed the entire kiss on Finn—she even blamed him more than she did Hope, at least before her kidnapping. She claimed that Finn allowed the kiss to happen and let it escalate. For several episodes, she yelled at him, insisting it was his fault that Hope kissed him. She left because she held him responsible for the kiss, and she even brought up his past mistakes involving Sheila to gain leverage in their arguments. We saw a one-sided, hypocritical fight between Steffy and Finn, so I don't believe Finn escaped backlash at all.
Everytime Finn went to FC, which was often, he would go directly to Hope. That is NOT Hoping always seeking Finn out.
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
Kammie , 9/16/2024, 1:26PM (359 days ago) @Sammy
Exactly.. The only time Hope went to Finn's office was when she relayed Deacon's message. The rest of their contact was Finn going to Hope.
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howeveryouknow, 9/16/2024, 1:51PM (359 days ago) @Kammie- one person liked this
Exactly.. The only time Hope went to Finn's office was when she relayed Deacon's message. The rest of their contact was Finn going to Hope.
That was not the case. Hope went to the cliff house multiple times and visited Finn's office—not only to invite him to the wedding, but also when she needed to pick up Beth's medication. Finn only saw Hope when he went to see Steffy and ran into her at Forrester Creations. He never intended to "hang out" with Hope in those interactions.
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Kammie , 9/16/2024, 2:01PM (359 days ago) @howeveryouknow- one person liked this
Hope did not set out to seek him out. She called him for medical advice because the kids doctor was not there. Finn volunteered to go to Hope's house for a house call to check on Beth. Hope had to pick up the meds from his office. He was there. She did not seek him out except to say Thank You. Neither one of them said or did anything inappropriate when she picked up the meds.
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howeveryouknow, 9/16/2024, 2:37PM (359 days ago) @Kammie- one person liked this
Hope did not set out to seek him out. She called him for medical advice because the kids doctor was not there. Finn volunteered to go to Hope's house for a house call to check on Beth. Hope had to pick up the meds from his office. He was there. She did not seek him out except to say Thank You. Neither one of them said or did anything inappropriate when she picked up the meds.
My point is that Finn rarely ever initiated their interactions or intended to go to her with the exception of helping with a sick Beth. And that's only because she called him, and he wanted to help out and nothing completely inappropriate happened.

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Ilovebizzie, 9/16/2024, 12:47PM (359 days ago) @howeveryouknow
I agree with you on all this.
Once again I point out that Hope herself has never explained her attraction to Finn by saying that he encouraged her.
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hopeyougogirl, 9/16/2024, 12:00PM (359 days ago) @FancyGirl
Since Hope has amnesia and the writers will never allow her to fight back and bring up Steffy's past of cheating and homewrecking against her, here is a quick reminder for her...
- She spent nearly a decade chasing after Liam when he was with Hope. Begging, seducing, kissing him at every turns. It wasn't just a small attempt, rather a decade of obsession.
- She sometimes went a lot further than chasing after him. She schemed and lied, hid his phone, locked Hope in a gondola, blackmailed him, used her pregnancy and colluded with Bill more than once. Shortly before Finn came in, she was still throwing herself at Liam and conspiring with Thomas to break up Lope (with the phones scam). If it wasn't for her motorcycle accident, there would be no Finn she would still be single and obsessing over Liam.
- She SLEPT with a drugged Liam when he was grieving the death of his baby, before the ink of Lope's annulment papers was dry (sure, Hope moved on and married Thomas even faster, but that doesn't make Steffy look any better). She was claiming to be moving on and at peace with Lope, yet jumped at the first chance to have sex with him...
- She SLEPT with a married and drunk Liam again while she was in a committed relationship with Finn. Was going to keep it secret until Liam left her no choice and chose to tell Hope the truth. She was already making plans to reunite with Liam until he told her he wasn't gonna leave his wife. She got pregnant and thought she was carrying Hope's husband's baby.
- She allowed Hope's husband to kiss her twice while she was married to Finn. Those 2 kisses lasted way too long to not be considered cheating. She remembered thoses kisses for weeks and until she comes clean about it, she is still a lying cheater who locked lips with a married man and broke her vows.
- As if it wasn't enough, she had to do everything she could to destroy Hope and Thomas as well. Begging him to leave Hope the 9 months they were together, brainwashing him, putting ideas in his head, lying by default about his relationship with Paris, bad-mouthing Hope at every turns. They were having a simple diagreement about marriage, they would have worked it out and been happy if Steffy had minded her own business.Yet now she acts like Hope murdered someone because of one meaningless kiss with Finn? The nerves. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm not defending Hope, she is a mess right now and I will never, ever ever root for her and Finn. But what has she done that's so unredeemable? Since Steffy wrecked her and Thomas, she is dealing stress, headaches and a lot of complicated feelings. It isn't like she is actively begging Finn to leave his wife for her. Or scheming, blackmailing, lying, trapping his wife in a gondola and using seduction tricks to sleep with him. She never talked about love, wanting to be with him or anything like that. She is simply going through a dark period, struggling with a lot of mixed feelings and trying to figure them out. But most is happening in her head and through conversations with Brooke. She hasn't done anything outside of that drunken kiss at the party... something she regretted immediately and hated herself for it since then. Now if the rumors are right, she will tell Finn she doesn't want to see him again and move on with another guy (only a spumor for now, but if true then it was just a harmless crush and nothing else). If anything else happens in the future between Hope and Finn, it will be because Finn allowed it. Steffy should direct her frustration at Finn rather than Sheila and Hope. Finn initiated the friendship just like he chose to forgive Sheila. Finn was interfering between Hope and Thomas long before Hope kissed him. He initiated most of the physical contacts and the massages were his ideas. He told her over and over she deserved better than Thomas and any guy would be the luckiest man in the world to be with her. What married guy says this to a woman his wife despises? He let her believe she could lean on him and he'd always be there for her, even when Steffy was furiously asking him to stay away from Hope. Why isn't he getting more backlash from Steffy and her family? Why is Hope treated like a heartless homewrecker over a kiss when Steffy did a hundreed times worse for a decade? In Steffy's mind, Ridge should have left Brooke forever because Deacon kissed her. Liam should be done with Hope forever because she kissed Thomas. But she gets to stalk Hope's man for a decade, sleep with Hope's husband behind Finn's back, profess her everlasting love to Liam, tell Ivy to stay away from him and get away with everything with zero consequence? It's ok for her to cheat and have a divided heart but Hope is the nastiest woman ever for one kiss while she is single? It's maddening. Steffy has zero credibility when she opens her mouth to bash Hope. The writers need to end this farce right now. Let Steffy and Finn deal with their own miserable, dysfunctional marriage and let Hope get her own story far away from them. What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.
It's the typical do as I say and not as I do trashy Steffy's smug attitude. She has done much much worse than one drunken kiss, but she can't handle it done to her..what a coward..what a clown! She sure can dish out a whole lot of crap, but she can never take it..poor little Steffy.
I'm okay with Hope moving on except NEVER with Thomas..given the fact Hope and Steffy had already feud over him! Shown on screen. And low life Thomas will never cut his own blood, evil sister out of his life either..so Steffy will always have a seat at Thope's table. And Hope dodged a bullet with Steffy being her monster sister in law from he!! JMO.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Ilovebizzie, 9/16/2024, 12:11PM (359 days ago) @FancyGirl
What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.>>
I agree about Hope with Carter and Zende and no more Steffy/Hope feud for a man, but you lost me with the Thomas comment.
I have no need to ever see Thomas pursue Hope again.
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Sammy , 9/16/2024, 12:42PM (359 days ago) @FancyGirl
Since Hope has amnesia and the writers will never allow her to fight back and bring up Steffy's past of cheating and homewrecking against her, here is a quick reminder for her...
- She spent nearly a decade chasing after Liam when he was with Hope. Begging, seducing, kissing him at every turns. It wasn't just a small attempt, rather a decade of obsession.
- She sometimes went a lot further than chasing after him. She schemed and lied, hid his phone, locked Hope in a gondola, blackmailed him, used her pregnancy and colluded with Bill more than once. Shortly before Finn came in, she was still throwing herself at Liam and conspiring with Thomas to break up Lope (with the phones scam). If it wasn't for her motorcycle accident, there would be no Finn she would still be single and obsessing over Liam.
- She SLEPT with a drugged Liam when he was grieving the death of his baby, before the ink of Lope's annulment papers was dry (sure, Hope moved on and married Thomas even faster, but that doesn't make Steffy look any better). She was claiming to be moving on and at peace with Lope, yet jumped at the first chance to have sex with him...
- She SLEPT with a married and drunk Liam again while she was in a committed relationship with Finn. Was going to keep it secret until Liam left her no choice and chose to tell Hope the truth. She was already making plans to reunite with Liam until he told her he wasn't gonna leave his wife. She got pregnant and thought she was carrying Hope's husband's baby.
- She allowed Hope's husband to kiss her twice while she was married to Finn. Those 2 kisses lasted way too long to not be considered cheating. She remembered thoses kisses for weeks and until she comes clean about it, she is still a lying cheater who locked lips with a married man and broke her vows.
- As if it wasn't enough, she had to do everything she could to destroy Hope and Thomas as well. Begging him to leave Hope the 9 months they were together, brainwashing him, putting ideas in his head, lying by default about his relationship with Paris, bad-mouthing Hope at every turns. They were having a simple diagreement about marriage, they would have worked it out and been happy if Steffy had minded her own business.Yet now she acts like Hope murdered someone because of one meaningless kiss with Finn? The nerves. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm not defending Hope, she is a mess right now and I will never, ever ever root for her and Finn. But what has she done that's so unredeemable? Since Steffy wrecked her and Thomas, she is dealing stress, headaches and a lot of complicated feelings. It isn't like she is actively begging Finn to leave his wife for her. Or scheming, blackmailing, lying, trapping his wife in a gondola and using seduction tricks to sleep with him. She never talked about love, wanting to be with him or anything like that. She is simply going through a dark period, struggling with a lot of mixed feelings and trying to figure them out. But most is happening in her head and through conversations with Brooke. She hasn't done anything outside of that drunken kiss at the party... something she regretted immediately and hated herself for it since then. Now if the rumors are right, she will tell Finn she doesn't want to see him again and move on with another guy (only a spumor for now, but if true then it was just a harmless crush and nothing else). If anything else happens in the future between Hope and Finn, it will be because Finn allowed it. Steffy should direct her frustration at Finn rather than Sheila and Hope. Finn initiated the friendship just like he chose to forgive Sheila. Finn was interfering between Hope and Thomas long before Hope kissed him. He initiated most of the physical contacts and the massages were his ideas. He told her over and over she deserved better than Thomas and any guy would be the luckiest man in the world to be with her. What married guy says this to a woman his wife despises? He let her believe she could lean on him and he'd always be there for her, even when Steffy was furiously asking him to stay away from Hope. Why isn't he getting more backlash from Steffy and her family? Why is Hope treated like a heartless homewrecker over a kiss when Steffy did a hundreed times worse for a decade? In Steffy's mind, Ridge should have left Brooke forever because Deacon kissed her. Liam should be done with Hope forever because she kissed Thomas. But she gets to stalk Hope's man for a decade, sleep with Hope's husband behind Finn's back, profess her everlasting love to Liam, tell Ivy to stay away from him and get away with everything with zero consequence? It's ok for her to cheat and have a divided heart but Hope is the nastiest woman ever for one kiss while she is single? It's maddening. Steffy has zero credibility when she opens her mouth to bash Hope. The writers need to end this farce right now. Let Steffy and Finn deal with their own miserable, dysfunctional marriage and let Hope get her own story far away from them. What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.
I agree. I would also love Thomas coming back wanting Hope
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
Barbybo, 9/16/2024, 12:51PM (359 days ago) @FancyGirl
Since Hope has amnesia and the writers will never allow her to fight back and bring up Steffy's past of cheating and homewrecking against her, here is a quick reminder for her...
- She spent nearly a decade chasing after Liam when he was with Hope. Begging, seducing, kissing him at every turns. It wasn't just a small attempt, rather a decade of obsession.
- She sometimes went a lot further than chasing after him. She schemed and lied, hid his phone, locked Hope in a gondola, blackmailed him, used her pregnancy and colluded with Bill more than once. Shortly before Finn came in, she was still throwing herself at Liam and conspiring with Thomas to break up Lope (with the phones scam). If it wasn't for her motorcycle accident, there would be no Finn she would still be single and obsessing over Liam.
- She SLEPT with a drugged Liam when he was grieving the death of his baby, before the ink of Lope's annulment papers was dry (sure, Hope moved on and married Thomas even faster, but that doesn't make Steffy look any better). She was claiming to be moving on and at peace with Lope, yet jumped at the first chance to have sex with him...
- She SLEPT with a married and drunk Liam again while she was in a committed relationship with Finn. Was going to keep it secret until Liam left her no choice and chose to tell Hope the truth. She was already making plans to reunite with Liam until he told her he wasn't gonna leave his wife. She got pregnant and thought she was carrying Hope's husband's baby.
- She allowed Hope's husband to kiss her twice while she was married to Finn. Those 2 kisses lasted way too long to not be considered cheating. She remembered thoses kisses for weeks and until she comes clean about it, she is still a lying cheater who locked lips with a married man and broke her vows.
- As if it wasn't enough, she had to do everything she could to destroy Hope and Thomas as well. Begging him to leave Hope the 9 months they were together, brainwashing him, putting ideas in his head, lying by default about his relationship with Paris, bad-mouthing Hope at every turns. They were having a simple diagreement about marriage, they would have worked it out and been happy if Steffy had minded her own business.Yet now she acts like Hope murdered someone because of one meaningless kiss with Finn? The nerves. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm not defending Hope, she is a mess right now and I will never, ever ever root for her and Finn. But what has she done that's so unredeemable? Since Steffy wrecked her and Thomas, she is dealing stress, headaches and a lot of complicated feelings. It isn't like she is actively begging Finn to leave his wife for her. Or scheming, blackmailing, lying, trapping his wife in a gondola and using seduction tricks to sleep with him. She never talked about love, wanting to be with him or anything like that. She is simply going through a dark period, struggling with a lot of mixed feelings and trying to figure them out. But most is happening in her head and through conversations with Brooke. She hasn't done anything outside of that drunken kiss at the party... something she regretted immediately and hated herself for it since then. Now if the rumors are right, she will tell Finn she doesn't want to see him again and move on with another guy (only a spumor for now, but if true then it was just a harmless crush and nothing else). If anything else happens in the future between Hope and Finn, it will be because Finn allowed it. Steffy should direct her frustration at Finn rather than Sheila and Hope. Finn initiated the friendship just like he chose to forgive Sheila. Finn was interfering between Hope and Thomas long before Hope kissed him. He initiated most of the physical contacts and the massages were his ideas. He told her over and over she deserved better than Thomas and any guy would be the luckiest man in the world to be with her. What married guy says this to a woman his wife despises? He let her believe she could lean on him and he'd always be there for her, even when Steffy was furiously asking him to stay away from Hope. Why isn't he getting more backlash from Steffy and her family? Why is Hope treated like a heartless homewrecker over a kiss when Steffy did a hundreed times worse for a decade? In Steffy's mind, Ridge should have left Brooke forever because Deacon kissed her. Liam should be done with Hope forever because she kissed Thomas. But she gets to stalk Hope's man for a decade, sleep with Hope's husband behind Finn's back, profess her everlasting love to Liam, tell Ivy to stay away from him and get away with everything with zero consequence? It's ok for her to cheat and have a divided heart but Hope is the nastiest woman ever for one kiss while she is single? It's maddening. Steffy has zero credibility when she opens her mouth to bash Hope. The writers need to end this farce right now. Let Steffy and Finn deal with their own miserable, dysfunctional marriage and let Hope get her own story far away from them. What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.
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Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
fan87, 9/16/2024, 2:06PM (359 days ago) @FancyGirl
Since Hope has amnesia and the writers will never allow her to fight back and bring up Steffy's past of cheating and homewrecking against her, here is a quick reminder for her...
- She spent nearly a decade chasing after Liam when he was with Hope. Begging, seducing, kissing him at every turns. It wasn't just a small attempt, rather a decade of obsession.
- She sometimes went a lot further than chasing after him. She schemed and lied, hid his phone, locked Hope in a gondola, blackmailed him, used her pregnancy and colluded with Bill more than once. Shortly before Finn came in, she was still throwing herself at Liam and conspiring with Thomas to break up Lope (with the phones scam). If it wasn't for her motorcycle accident, there would be no Finn she would still be single and obsessing over Liam.
- She SLEPT with a drugged Liam when he was grieving the death of his baby, before the ink of Lope's annulment papers was dry (sure, Hope moved on and married Thomas even faster, but that doesn't make Steffy look any better). She was claiming to be moving on and at peace with Lope, yet jumped at the first chance to have sex with him...
- She SLEPT with a married and drunk Liam again while she was in a committed relationship with Finn. Was going to keep it secret until Liam left her no choice and chose to tell Hope the truth. She was already making plans to reunite with Liam until he told her he wasn't gonna leave his wife. She got pregnant and thought she was carrying Hope's husband's baby.
- She allowed Hope's husband to kiss her twice while she was married to Finn. Those 2 kisses lasted way too long to not be considered cheating. She remembered thoses kisses for weeks and until she comes clean about it, she is still a lying cheater who locked lips with a married man and broke her vows.
- As if it wasn't enough, she had to do everything she could to destroy Hope and Thomas as well. Begging him to leave Hope the 9 months they were together, brainwashing him, putting ideas in his head, lying by default about his relationship with Paris, bad-mouthing Hope at every turns. They were having a simple diagreement about marriage, they would have worked it out and been happy if Steffy had minded her own business.Yet now she acts like Hope murdered someone because of one meaningless kiss with Finn? The nerves. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm not defending Hope, she is a mess right now and I will never, ever ever root for her and Finn. But what has she done that's so unredeemable? Since Steffy wrecked her and Thomas, she is dealing stress, headaches and a lot of complicated feelings. It isn't like she is actively begging Finn to leave his wife for her. Or scheming, blackmailing, lying, trapping his wife in a gondola and using seduction tricks to sleep with him. She never talked about love, wanting to be with him or anything like that. She is simply going through a dark period, struggling with a lot of mixed feelings and trying to figure them out. But most is happening in her head and through conversations with Brooke. She hasn't done anything outside of that drunken kiss at the party... something she regretted immediately and hated herself for it since then. Now if the rumors are right, she will tell Finn she doesn't want to see him again and move on with another guy (only a spumor for now, but if true then it was just a harmless crush and nothing else). If anything else happens in the future between Hope and Finn, it will be because Finn allowed it. Steffy should direct her frustration at Finn rather than Sheila and Hope. Finn initiated the friendship just like he chose to forgive Sheila. Finn was interfering between Hope and Thomas long before Hope kissed him. He initiated most of the physical contacts and the massages were his ideas. He told her over and over she deserved better than Thomas and any guy would be the luckiest man in the world to be with her. What married guy says this to a woman his wife despises? He let her believe she could lean on him and he'd always be there for her, even when Steffy was furiously asking him to stay away from Hope. Why isn't he getting more backlash from Steffy and her family? Why is Hope treated like a heartless homewrecker over a kiss when Steffy did a hundreed times worse for a decade? In Steffy's mind, Ridge should have left Brooke forever because Deacon kissed her. Liam should be done with Hope forever because she kissed Thomas. But she gets to stalk Hope's man for a decade, sleep with Hope's husband behind Finn's back, profess her everlasting love to Liam, tell Ivy to stay away from him and get away with everything with zero consequence? It's ok for her to cheat and have a divided heart but Hope is the nastiest woman ever for one kiss while she is single? It's maddening. Steffy has zero credibility when she opens her mouth to bash Hope. The writers need to end this farce right now. Let Steffy and Finn deal with their own miserable, dysfunctional marriage and let Hope get her own story far away from them. What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.
Despise her Steffy is awful!
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
Barbybo, 9/16/2024, 2:33PM (359 days ago) @fan87
Since Hope has amnesia and the writers will never allow her to fight back and bring up Steffy's past of cheating and homewrecking against her, here is a quick reminder for her...
- She spent nearly a decade chasing after Liam when he was with Hope. Begging, seducing, kissing him at every turns. It wasn't just a small attempt, rather a decade of obsession.
- She sometimes went a lot further than chasing after him. She schemed and lied, hid his phone, locked Hope in a gondola, blackmailed him, used her pregnancy and colluded with Bill more than once. Shortly before Finn came in, she was still throwing herself at Liam and conspiring with Thomas to break up Lope (with the phones scam). If it wasn't for her motorcycle accident, there would be no Finn she would still be single and obsessing over Liam.
- She SLEPT with a drugged Liam when he was grieving the death of his baby, before the ink of Lope's annulment papers was dry (sure, Hope moved on and married Thomas even faster, but that doesn't make Steffy look any better). She was claiming to be moving on and at peace with Lope, yet jumped at the first chance to have sex with him...
- She SLEPT with a married and drunk Liam again while she was in a committed relationship with Finn. Was going to keep it secret until Liam left her no choice and chose to tell Hope the truth. She was already making plans to reunite with Liam until he told her he wasn't gonna leave his wife. She got pregnant and thought she was carrying Hope's husband's baby.
- She allowed Hope's husband to kiss her twice while she was married to Finn. Those 2 kisses lasted way too long to not be considered cheating. She remembered thoses kisses for weeks and until she comes clean about it, she is still a lying cheater who locked lips with a married man and broke her vows.
- As if it wasn't enough, she had to do everything she could to destroy Hope and Thomas as well. Begging him to leave Hope the 9 months they were together, brainwashing him, putting ideas in his head, lying by default about his relationship with Paris, bad-mouthing Hope at every turns. They were having a simple diagreement about marriage, they would have worked it out and been happy if Steffy had minded her own business.Yet now she acts like Hope murdered someone because of one meaningless kiss with Finn? The nerves. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm not defending Hope, she is a mess right now and I will never, ever ever root for her and Finn. But what has she done that's so unredeemable? Since Steffy wrecked her and Thomas, she is dealing stress, headaches and a lot of complicated feelings. It isn't like she is actively begging Finn to leave his wife for her. Or scheming, blackmailing, lying, trapping his wife in a gondola and using seduction tricks to sleep with him. She never talked about love, wanting to be with him or anything like that. She is simply going through a dark period, struggling with a lot of mixed feelings and trying to figure them out. But most is happening in her head and through conversations with Brooke. She hasn't done anything outside of that drunken kiss at the party... something she regretted immediately and hated herself for it since then. Now if the rumors are right, she will tell Finn she doesn't want to see him again and move on with another guy (only a spumor for now, but if true then it was just a harmless crush and nothing else). If anything else happens in the future between Hope and Finn, it will be because Finn allowed it. Steffy should direct her frustration at Finn rather than Sheila and Hope. Finn initiated the friendship just like he chose to forgive Sheila. Finn was interfering between Hope and Thomas long before Hope kissed him. He initiated most of the physical contacts and the massages were his ideas. He told her over and over she deserved better than Thomas and any guy would be the luckiest man in the world to be with her. What married guy says this to a woman his wife despises? He let her believe she could lean on him and he'd always be there for her, even when Steffy was furiously asking him to stay away from Hope. Why isn't he getting more backlash from Steffy and her family? Why is Hope treated like a heartless homewrecker over a kiss when Steffy did a hundreed times worse for a decade? In Steffy's mind, Ridge should have left Brooke forever because Deacon kissed her. Liam should be done with Hope forever because she kissed Thomas. But she gets to stalk Hope's man for a decade, sleep with Hope's husband behind Finn's back, profess her everlasting love to Liam, tell Ivy to stay away from him and get away with everything with zero consequence? It's ok for her to cheat and have a divided heart but Hope is the nastiest woman ever for one kiss while she is single? It's maddening. Steffy has zero credibility when she opens her mouth to bash Hope. The writers need to end this farce right now. Let Steffy and Finn deal with their own miserable, dysfunctional marriage and let Hope get her own story far away from them. What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.
Despise her Steffy is awful!
Aw it’s allways poor little Hope but now she’s the vixen who wants a married guy she’s changed….its what’s on the screen..I agree all these characters same old fight boreing
Steffy has 00 credibility in this feud against Hope
GracieGirl, 9/16/2024, 4:09PM (359 days ago) @FancyGirl
Since Hope has amnesia and the writers will never allow her to fight back and bring up Steffy's past of cheating and homewrecking against her, here is a quick reminder for her...
- She spent nearly a decade chasing after Liam when he was with Hope. Begging, seducing, kissing him at every turns. It wasn't just a small attempt, rather a decade of obsession.
- She sometimes went a lot further than chasing after him. She schemed and lied, hid his phone, locked Hope in a gondola, blackmailed him, used her pregnancy and colluded with Bill more than once. Shortly before Finn came in, she was still throwing herself at Liam and conspiring with Thomas to break up Lope (with the phones scam). If it wasn't for her motorcycle accident, there would be no Finn she would still be single and obsessing over Liam.
- She SLEPT with a drugged Liam when he was grieving the death of his baby, before the ink of Lope's annulment papers was dry (sure, Hope moved on and married Thomas even faster, but that doesn't make Steffy look any better). She was claiming to be moving on and at peace with Lope, yet jumped at the first chance to have sex with him...
- She SLEPT with a married and drunk Liam again while she was in a committed relationship with Finn. Was going to keep it secret until Liam left her no choice and chose to tell Hope the truth. She was already making plans to reunite with Liam until he told her he wasn't gonna leave his wife. She got pregnant and thought she was carrying Hope's husband's baby.
- She allowed Hope's husband to kiss her twice while she was married to Finn. Those 2 kisses lasted way too long to not be considered cheating. She remembered thoses kisses for weeks and until she comes clean about it, she is still a lying cheater who locked lips with a married man and broke her vows.
- As if it wasn't enough, she had to do everything she could to destroy Hope and Thomas as well. Begging him to leave Hope the 9 months they were together, brainwashing him, putting ideas in his head, lying by default about his relationship with Paris, bad-mouthing Hope at every turns. They were having a simple diagreement about marriage, they would have worked it out and been happy if Steffy had minded her own business.Yet now she acts like Hope murdered someone because of one meaningless kiss with Finn? The nerves. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm not defending Hope, she is a mess right now and I will never, ever ever root for her and Finn. But what has she done that's so unredeemable? Since Steffy wrecked her and Thomas, she is dealing stress, headaches and a lot of complicated feelings. It isn't like she is actively begging Finn to leave his wife for her. Or scheming, blackmailing, lying, trapping his wife in a gondola and using seduction tricks to sleep with him. She never talked about love, wanting to be with him or anything like that. She is simply going through a dark period, struggling with a lot of mixed feelings and trying to figure them out. But most is happening in her head and through conversations with Brooke. She hasn't done anything outside of that drunken kiss at the party... something she regretted immediately and hated herself for it since then. Now if the rumors are right, she will tell Finn she doesn't want to see him again and move on with another guy (only a spumor for now, but if true then it was just a harmless crush and nothing else). If anything else happens in the future between Hope and Finn, it will be because Finn allowed it. Steffy should direct her frustration at Finn rather than Sheila and Hope. Finn initiated the friendship just like he chose to forgive Sheila. Finn was interfering between Hope and Thomas long before Hope kissed him. He initiated most of the physical contacts and the massages were his ideas. He told her over and over she deserved better than Thomas and any guy would be the luckiest man in the world to be with her. What married guy says this to a woman his wife despises? He let her believe she could lean on him and he'd always be there for her, even when Steffy was furiously asking him to stay away from Hope. Why isn't he getting more backlash from Steffy and her family? Why is Hope treated like a heartless homewrecker over a kiss when Steffy did a hundreed times worse for a decade? In Steffy's mind, Ridge should have left Brooke forever because Deacon kissed her. Liam should be done with Hope forever because she kissed Thomas. But she gets to stalk Hope's man for a decade, sleep with Hope's husband behind Finn's back, profess her everlasting love to Liam, tell Ivy to stay away from him and get away with everything with zero consequence? It's ok for her to cheat and have a divided heart but Hope is the nastiest woman ever for one kiss while she is single? It's maddening. Steffy has zero credibility when she opens her mouth to bash Hope. The writers need to end this farce right now. Let Steffy and Finn deal with their own miserable, dysfunctional marriage and let Hope get her own story far away from them. What I want to see now is Hope moving on with Carter or Zende, and Thomas coming back single and fighting for her. No more Hope and Steffy feud over any man.
The show no longer cares about Hope IMHO. She’s created to lose every time. I’m not watching. Same old mess.
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