When Did Douglas Say He Wanted to Live with Thomas?

matisse, 8/22/2022, 5:17PM(617 days ago) @Liz- one person liked this
edited by matisse, 8/22/2022, 5:38PM

I'm interested to know when that occurred. Thomas telling Hope that he's taking Douglas full-time and Steffy ordering Ridge to go over to Hope's and remove that boy from her care seems to suggest that Douglas wants out of the cabin and no longer part of Hope and Liam's family. When did that conversation with Douglas take place?

The Steffy telling Ridge to go over and take Douglas was last week. I think on Friday.

This was 9/11/22: The first time Tom says anything to Hope.

Thomas: Yeah. Okay. You just– you just don’t like it when we don’t get to spend as much time together? Got it. Okay, well, look, I’ll tell you something. Even when we’re not physically together, we’re still kind of together because I’m always thinking about you. All right? Every moment of the day, I’m thinking about how your day’s going. When I go to sleep at night, I’m thinking, “how did his day go?” And, you know, “did he have fun at school or at camp?” And I try, you know, I try to keep in touch with your mom and make sure that you’re doing okay. But, maybe it’s not enough. Come here.

Douglas: Hey, um, dad, can we throw the ball some more?

Hope: Actually, douglas, honey, you still have that one chapter left of your summer reading.

Douglas: But I want to play with dad.

Thomas: It’s all right. We’ll– we’ll play a little bit later, all right, bud?

Douglas: Oh. Oh, okay.

Thomas: Okay.

[Door shuts] Yeah. Thanks uh, thanks for creating such a wonderful home for douglas.

Hope: Of course, there’s nothing I wouldn’t do for him.

Thomas: I’m glad to hear you say that because it’s really hard hearing douglas talk about how much he misses me. It makes me feel like, well, I’m not pulling my weight as a father.

Liam: Oh, I– I can tell you, he doesn’t doubt how much you love him. He knows.

Thomas: Well, I don’t want him to ever question that. I gotta say, he does have a reason to feel overlooked.

Hope: He would never feel that way.

Thomas: Obviously he does. Look, I– I was already thinking about this. Um, I asked granddad if I can move in with him and um, I think it’d be great if douglas moved in, too. That way, the father and the son can spend time together like they should. I would love that. And I think douglas would too.

Hope: Wait, so are you suggesting that douglas move out of here, the home that he knows with his sister to go live with you?

Thomas: Yeah, I think it’s time. And obviously you can see him whenever you want.

Hope: You know what? I think this is a conversation that we should have later because I don’t want douglas to overhear anything. So I think we should table this discussion right now.

Thomas: Okay. I’ll go. I don’t want to upset douglas or you, just tell him I said bye.

Liam: We will.

[Hope sighs]

Liam: Uh, wow. That– yeah, that was um, something.

Hope: Can you believe that? Can you believe what he’s asking?

Liam: No– I– I know.

Douglas: Where– where’s dad?

Hope: Oh. Um–

Liam: Uh…

Hope: You know what, sweetie? Your dad actually, he had to, he had to leave. But he told us to say bye and not to worry, you are going to see him again very, very soon.

Thomas: From now on, I’m gonna be much more involved in your life, douglas. You’re never going to doubt how much your dad loves you.

ance I can to spend time with him.

Taylor: Well, you should. He’s your son. You should spend as much time with him as you want to.

Thomas: Yeah. I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately.

Taylor: What is it? What’s wrong?

Thomas: Nothing. It’s just– it’s, um, something douglas said to me earlier. Uh, he asked me if I missed him when we’re not together. It’s like– that broke my heart that he would even question. I– I just– I– I– I hate being away from him.

Steffy: You should never have to.

Taylor: No, you shouldn’T. It’s time, thomas. Douglas needs to be with you.

Taylor: You know hope is– hope has taken excellent care of douglas and we’re all very thankful for that. She’s provided security for him when you weren’t able to. But, honey, you’re in a completely different state of mind now, and there’s no reason that douglas shouldn’t live with you if he wants to.

Steffy: He’s been with hope and liam long enough. And we’re all thankful for what hope did after caroline died. But you’re the father. Time with your son shouldn’t feel like visitation. That’s ridiculous. Your son should feel at home with you.

Thomas: Yeah, that’s right. That’s– that’s exactly how it feels. It feels like when we’re together, we’re just visiting. And god what he said earlier that he could even question that I would miss him? Something inside me just couldn’t take it anymore.

Taylor: Then don’T. You need to talk to hope and tell her how you feel.

Thomas: I actually did. I already brought it up. I told her that douglas should live with me. Time. It’s life’s most precious commodity,

Thomas: No, no it’s not that. She didn’t even say no. She just said it was a conversation for another time.

Taylor: Why would she wanna put it off?

Thomas: She didn’t want douglas overhear.

Taylor: And say, “oh, yes, “I’d love to live with my dad.” That’s probably what she was afraid of.

Ridge: Maybe she felt threatened. How did you phrase it?

Thomas: No, it’s not like that. It was just a suggestion. Okay. I– I just told her that I wanna be around my son. I wanna be with him more time than I have not with him.

Ridge: All right. But, you know, this is the last thing that douglas needs, right? This just doesn’t need to get contentious.

Thomas: No, I– that’s the last thing I want too. Douglas’ needs come first.

Steffy: Yeah. He needs you. He needs time with his father.

Taylor: Yeah, but ridge I don’t– I don’t think it– it doesn’t have to be contentious. It really doesn’t have to be. But– but, you know, hope doesn’t have the right to make this whole decision on any of this, especially with douglas saying that he thinks his father misses him. That’s not okay. Something needs to be done.

Steffy: He’s lived primarily with hope for a long time now, and it has been a loving, nurturing environment. Anyone can see that. But you could provide that, especially now that you’re doing so much better. I mean, obviously, we understand that douglas was staying with hope while you were working on yourself. But mom is right. You’ve made some huge strides. No one can question that, especially hope.

Thomas: I don’t think she is questioning that. I– I just think that she doesn’t want douglas to leave.

Steffy: You’re the biological parent, not hope. I know I’ve been very vocal about li being finn’s mother and not sheila, but that is something completely different. Sheila chose to give up her son. Caroline did not. She would never have walked away from douglas. She died. Okay. And hope wanted to fill that role? Fine. She’s the mother now. No one is saying she’s not gonna have time with douglas. But I think it’s clear you’re the one and only living parent, thomas. It’s time to acknowledge that. It’s time to stand up to hope. And to brooke. To all of the logans. They’re the ones who should be visiting douglas, not you. Douglas needs to come home to his family. That’s us. The forresters.

Wow, just reading it again is something. And I forgot Ridge was in the room until the end, when he mentioned that it would not be good for Douglas to be taken from the home he knows. LOL. I guess Ridge is such a weak sister he got beaten down pretty fast by Mrs. Hayes and her mean girl daughter. LOL

Steffy in the end was as mean and nasty as a snake, because that is what she is, a mean, jealous nasty snake that wants NO ONE to be happy except her own blood people. Finn had better watch out. He is not blood related to her, and he is not her sweet husband Liam, her main obsession in life.

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