Is Hope’s capacity for forgiveness without limits? - The World of the Bold & the Beautiful Fan Forum

It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

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I think when it will come to her own relationship with her father she will still not want Sheila to be around Beth. Liam will not want this either.

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

I haven't seen any indication that Hope has forgiven Sheila.

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

I haven't seen any indication that Hope has forgiven Sheila.

Forgive her for what?

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Exactly.... What has Shelia done to Hope to warrant forgiveness. Shelia has done nothing to Hope. Shelia hasn't even done anything to Brooke that is worse than what Thomas, Taylor, and Steffy have done to Brooke and Hope. I can understand if Hope just doesn't like Shelia, but Hope's opinion is based on biased impressions of people around her. Heck, if she can forgive Steffy and Thomas then she can get along with Shelia.

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Exactly.... What has Shelia done to Hope to warrant forgiveness. Shelia has done nothing to Hope. Shelia hasn't even done anything to Brooke that is worse than what Thomas, Taylor, and Steffy have done to Brooke and Hope. I can understand if Hope just doesn't like Shelia, but Hope's opinion is based on biased impressions of people around her. Heck, if she can forgive Steffy and Thomas then she can get along with Shelia.

I don’t blame Hope not wanting Beth around Sheila. Sheila has been around a very long time first on YR and BB and she really has done some major life threatening, I actually believe at least one did die I would want nothing to do with Sheila and sure not my kid. You roll most of those you mentioned together and it still doesn’t equal Sheila

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The only death that Shelia was indirectly responsible for was Lance's when she put bees in his room. However, the slob ate a honey sandwich in bed and the honey all over him attracted the bees. Taylor is directly responsible for Darla's death. Steffy bashed Aly's head with a tire iron. Steffy stabbed a woman just because she thought it was Shelia.. Thomas chased a woman down a cliff to her death.

The only harm Shelia has ever done to a child has been when she cut a lock of hair from Thomas' head. Taylor threw a bottle at her child. Thomas has physically abused Douglas. Steffy put her child in danger when she had pills all over the house within her reach.

Both Shelia and Taylor have bought babies. Thomas and Shelia kept a child from their real mother.

Beth, Kelly, Douglas, and Hayes are not in any danger being around Shelia. At least no more that they are around the other adults around them.

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The only death that Shelia was indirectly responsible for was Lance's when she put bees in his room. However, the slob ate a honey sandwich in bed and the honey all over him attracted the bees. Taylor is directly responsible for Darla's death. Steffy bashed Aly's head with a tire iron. Steffy stabbed a woman just because she thought it was Shelia.. Thomas chased a woman down a cliff to her death.

The only harm Shelia has ever done to a child has been when she cut a lock of hair from Thomas' head. Taylor threw a bottle at her child. Thomas has physically abused Douglas. Steffy put her child in danger when she had pills all over the house within her reach.

Both Shelia and Taylor have bought babies. Thomas and Shelia kept a child from their real mother.

Beth, Kelly, Douglas, and Hayes are not in any danger being around Shelia. At least no more that they are around the other adults around them.

I am going to disagree. Sheila has always been a horrible character since YR. If she wasn’t trying to kill, she was doing other evil things. Sheila has always been evil, scheming about something, lying, acting like someone’s best friend and stabbing them in the back. Nope, bring up all the others, but no one stands in the same evil category as Sheila. She actually should have really died years ago

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

Hope's not dumb here since Sheila never did anything directly to Hope that requires Hope's forgiveness in the first place. :neutral

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

Hope's not dumb here since Sheila never did anything directly to Hope that requires Hope's forgiveness in the first place.

if taylor didnt step in front of brooke, Hope would be without a mother

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

Hope's not dumb here since Sheila never did anything directly to Hope that requires Hope's forgiveness in the first place.

if taylor didnt step in front of brooke, Hope would be without a mother

Yes very true

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

Hope's not dumb here since Sheila never did anything directly to Hope that requires Hope's forgiveness in the first place.

if taylor didnt step in front of brooke, Hope would be without a mother

And if Thomas would have his way Hope wouldn't be a mother or have an older brother yet she had sex with him.

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What has Hope done to indicate that she is dumb? If she decides to play nice with Shelia, it would be the best thing for her. It would also indicate that she is smart. Shelia has not done anything to Hope and Liam. It also looks like Hope has her eyes wide open where Shelia is concerned. Just because Hope has not physically assault Shelia for no reason and because is being respectful to Shelia, does not mean that she has accepted Shelia. She plays nice with Steffy after everything that witch has done to her, and she played nice with Felony Flo after she sold Beth to Taylor, why is she not allowed to be cordial to Shelia?

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What has Hope done to indicate that she is dumb? If she decides to play nice with Shelia, it would be the best thing for her. It would also indicate that she is smart. Shelia has not done anything to Hope and Liam. It also looks like Hope has her eyes wide open where Shelia is concerned. Just because Hope has not physically assault Shelia for no reason and because is being respectful to Shelia, does not mean that she has accepted Shelia. She plays nice with Steffy after everything that witch has done to her, and she played nice with Felony Flo after she sold Beth to Taylor, why is she not allowed to be cordial to Shelia?

Those are very good points.

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What has Hope done to indicate that she is dumb? If she decides to play nice with Shelia, it would be the best thing for her. It would also indicate that she is smart. Shelia has not done anything to Hope and Liam. It also looks like Hope has her eyes wide open where Shelia is concerned. Just because Hope has not physically assault Shelia for no reason and because is being respectful to Shelia, does not mean that she has accepted Shelia. She plays nice with Steffy after everything that witch has done to her, and she played nice with Felony Flo after she sold Beth to Taylor, why is she not allowed to be cordial to Shelia?

My point is if Hope can forgive Steffy and Thomas perhaps there’s no question she will at least be cordial to Sheila. I personally it’s dumb to try so hard and to get along with Steffy let alone sleep with Thomas.

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

So far Hope seems skeptical of Sheila being changed. It's Deacon and Finn who are all in. And she doesn't need to worry about that right now. Sheila is Steffy's problem.

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"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

I didn't get the impression she had forgiven Sheila. She may tolerate her for her dad's sake. I think she thought she was just some fling and didn't realize how important she was to him. But I think she saw how lost her dad was and how joyful he is now. She still doesn't have to be around her.

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It may get her into soap opera heaven or declared a soap opera saint but in the world of soaps it’s a sure fire way of having one’s life turned upside down. I believe in forgiveness but you don’t have to be dumb in the process. Who said trust but verify?

Well she kept taken a cheaten Liam back …she can be dumb

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No one has accused Hope of being a mental giant. She's about as sharp as a marble to forgive the creeper Tom after all the wacky things he did to her and family and to top it off by boinking him like a hungry dog.

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Forgiveness and Hope?Hope still brung up the gondola, a situaton she put herself in and still blames STILL for it.Hope oreteds to forgive but never does and always expects redo when she screw ups

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Forgiveness and Hope?Hope still brung up the gondola, a situaton she put herself in and still blames STILL for it.Hope oreteds to forgive but never does and always expects redo when she screw ups

Bingo. The twit only 'forgives' if it benefits her.

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