If Steffy and/or Hope show an ounce of jealousy for Ivy - The World of the Bold & the Beautiful Fan Forum

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

575 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

When Finn first came on canvas, Leffy were already done..that's what I remember. And Steffy actually cheated on loyal boyfriend Finn with a married Liam on that drunken ONS..that resulted in her paternity test #2. She really isn't any better than Hope imo..as they're both flawed as is Liam.

Unfortunately, this is a soap that is so extemely plot driven! I think the previous plot of these 2 women not wanting a man with a divided heart is out the window now. The show is moving on to the next plot with Ivy's return, and I'm positive that both Hope and Steffy will have plenty to say about Ivy/Livy. I wish it's not the case, but that is how this show rolls.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

327 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

When Finn first came on canvas, Leffy were already done..that's what I remember. And Steffy actually cheated on loyal boyfriend Finn with a married Liam on that drunken ONS..that resulted in her paternity test #2. She really isn't any better than Hope imo..as they're both flawed as is Liam.

Unfortunately, this is a soap that is so extemely plot driven! I think the previous plot of these 2 women not wanting a man with a divided heart is out the window now. The show is moving on to the next plot with Ivy's return, and I'm positive that both Hope and Steffy will have plenty to say about Ivy/Livy. I wish it's not the case, but that is how this show rolls.

Yep. Steffy met Finn then went on her pill bender and held a knife to Brooke, Ridge, Liam and Hope and whined about how Hope "stole" Liam AND "Phoebe" from her! Gosh, every time I recall something else horrid Steffy has done, I hate her even more.

296 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

When Finn first came on canvas, Leffy were already done..that's what I remember. And Steffy actually cheated on loyal boyfriend Finn with a married Liam on that drunken ONS..that resulted in her paternity test #2. She really isn't any better than Hope imo..as they're both flawed as is Liam.

Unfortunately, this is a soap that is so extemely plot driven! I think the previous plot of these 2 women not wanting a man with a divided heart is out the window now. The show is moving on to the next plot with Ivy's return, and I'm positive that both Hope and Steffy will have plenty to say about Ivy/Livy. I wish it's not the case, but that is how this show rolls.

Yep. Steffy met Finn then went on her pill bender and held a knife to Brooke, Ridge, Liam and Hope and whined about how Hope "stole" Liam AND "Phoebe" from her! Gosh, every time I recall something else horrid Steffy has done, I hate her even more.

Yep. Me too.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

274 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas.What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

Same commitment in return? Hope's not engaged to Thomas.. he ran off because he got his feelings hurt. She's not the one married in this scenario. Would Hope look like a joke for wanting divided heart man all she's been saying, I guess.. but no more than Stef going on about what an empowered woman she was while staring at a portrait and sleeping with Liam anytime he was free. Hopefully Hope can avoid that fate and stay cordial and actually mean it

288 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas.What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

Same commitment in return? Hope's not engaged to Thomas.. he ran off because he got his feelings hurt. She's not the one married in this scenario. Would Hope look like a joke for wanting divided heart man all she's been saying, I guess.. but no more than Stef going on about what an empowered woman she was while staring at a portrait and sleeping with Liam anytime he was free. Hopefully Hope can avoid that fate and stay cordial and actually mean it

Yep, Hope is single and can feel whatever she wants. Steffy is married and will look terrible getting all mad at Livy.

278 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas.What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

Same commitment in return? Hope's not engaged to Thomas.. he ran off because he got his feelings hurt. She's not the one married in this scenario. Would Hope look like a joke for wanting divided heart man all she's been saying, I guess.. but no more than Stef going on about what an empowered woman she was while staring at a portrait and sleeping with Liam anytime he was free. Hopefully Hope can avoid that fate and stay cordial and actually mean it

So true. And a married Steffy would look even worse if she interferes with Livy like she did MANY relationships. LOL.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

268 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

I am curious to know your thoughts. Liam has been single and chasing Steffy for almost a year now. He has pursued her relentlessly, kissed her multiple times, and he has begged her to come back to him, while he's been trying to convince her to leave Finn. Yet she keeps telling him she isn't leaving Finn, that Finn isn't going anywhere, and she's committed to her marriage. If she still wants Liam and settled for Finn, why hasn't she gone back to Liam when multiple opportunities have presented itself this past year?

272 views report

Steffy's resentement towards Ivy has very little to do with liam and a lot to do with Ivy recording Ally trying to murder Steffy instead of helping and blackmailing Steffy with it.Unlike Hope who has no reason but Liam to have resentement towards Ivy

253 views report

Steffy's resentement towards Ivy has very little to do with liam and a lot to do with Ivy recording Ally trying to murder Steffy instead of helping and blackmailing Steffy with it.Unlike Hope who has no reason but Liam to have resentement towards Ivy

Lol, Steffy resents most of the women on this show, certainly not just Ivy. She hates Hope and Brooke with a passion to a point of declaring a war against them (when they absolutely nothing to her at the time). Steffy also resented Quinn and Sally too..she will always find reasons to hate another woman. LOL. And Ivy who Steffy bullied and violently harmed to a point of filing a RO against her..has plenty of reasons to dislike Steffy too. JMO.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

274 views report

Not what was shown

223 views report

Not what was shown

That’s what I saw shown on my screen.
To each their own.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

361 views report

All was shown

220 views report

Steffy's resentement towards Ivy has very little to do with liam and a lot to do with Ivy recording Ally trying to murder Steffy instead of helping and blackmailing Steffy with it.Unlike Hope who has no reason but Liam to have resentement towards Ivy

How odd, being that AFTER that happened, Steffy had Ivy helping her with the Leffy wedding in Australia....Steffy is just a bully, and she thinks she has ownership of Liam.

255 views report

Steffy's resentement towards Ivy has very little to do with liam and a lot to do with Ivy recording Ally trying to murder Steffy instead of helping and blackmailing Steffy with it.Unlike Hope who has no reason but Liam to have resentement towards Ivy

How odd, being that AFTER that happened, Steffy had Ivy helping her with the Leffy wedding in Australia....Steffy is just a bully, and she thinks she has ownership of Liam.

Right, the fact that they made up to the point that Ivy was basically a glorified tour guide at their wedding seems to have been forgotten..

241 views report

That blew my mind

204 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

The thing is Liam just told both Hope and Steffy that he’s felt he had no identity if he wasn’t with a woman and he realized that was a problem. He said he was going to concentrate on being the best dad he could be for now. So really jumping into a relationship with Ivy right now does warrant the raised eyebrow of skepticism. Just makes it seem like he was BS’ing both Hope and Steffy imo.

249 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

The thing is Liam just told both Hope and Steffy that he’s felt he had no identity if he wasn’t with a woman and he realized that was a problem. He said he was going to concentrate on being the best dad he could be for now. So really jumping into a relationship with Ivy right now does warrant the raised eyebrow of skepticism. Just makes it seem like he was BS’ing both Hope and Steffy imo.

They had him suddenly start preaching this out of the blue for a reason..

Liam to Hope : And I think I have to get over this thing where I feel like I don’t have an identity unless I’m with someone. And maybe I do. Maybe I– maybe my identity is dad. Just being the best– best dad I can be"

Liam to S: Like, am I the kind of man that I would ever want to see either of them with? Not really. I was accused of waffling over the years, you know? And I’m guilty as charged, the way that i went back and forth between you and hope over and over and over again. I gotta figure out who the hell I am. And maybe… maybe I just want to be dad for a little while, you know? Be the best– be the best dad that I can be for my daughters.

239 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

The thing is Liam just told both Hope and Steffy that he’s felt he had no identity if he wasn’t with a woman and he realized that was a problem. He said he was going to concentrate on being the best dad he could be for now. So really jumping into a relationship with Ivy right now does warrant the raised eyebrow of skepticism. Just makes it seem like he was BS’ing both Hope and Steffy imo.

it's been almost a year since liam left hope and he's been single since then so i wouldn't call getting with ivy jumping into a relationship

238 views report

He just started his soul searching but whatever...but Up to Hope, she JUST came out from her marriage

217 views report

He just started his soul searching but whatever...but Up to Hope, she JUST came out from her marriage

At least, Hope is single now. Steffy is a married woman, so there’s no reason for her to looked all mad at Livy kissing. LOL.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

224 views report

That's not my point.It's been almost a year since lope broke up, so it's not too soon to start a new relationship.if it's less like but Hope claiming that she just got out from her marriage, for someone soul searching like liam claimed he's doing it is too early,

223 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

The thing is Liam just told both Hope and Steffy that he’s felt he had no identity if he wasn’t with a woman and he realized that was a problem. He said he was going to concentrate on being the best dad he could be for now. So really jumping into a relationship with Ivy right now does warrant the raised eyebrow of skepticism. Just makes it seem like he was BS’ing both Hope and Steffy imo.

it's been almost a year since liam left hope and he's been single since then so i wouldn't call getting with ivy jumping into a relationship

I agree with that, but he harassed Steffy for some of that time and went around telling others he’d never get over her. It was just in the last couple of weeks he’s had this revelation about not having an identity without a woman, so he needs to walk the talk for awhile now to be believable to me.

220 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

The thing is Liam just told both Hope and Steffy that he’s felt he had no identity if he wasn’t with a woman and he realized that was a problem. He said he was going to concentrate on being the best dad he could be for now. So really jumping into a relationship with Ivy right now does warrant the raised eyebrow of skepticism. Just makes it seem like he was BS’ing both Hope and Steffy imo.

it's been almost a year since liam left hope and he's been single since then so i wouldn't call getting with ivy jumping into a relationship

I agree with that, but he harassed Steffy for some of that time and went around telling others he’d never get over her. It was just in the last couple of weeks he’s had this revelation about not having an identity without a woman, so he needs to walk the talk for awhile now to be believable to me.

Yeah, he should walk the talk “soul searching” for a while..but it’s not how this PLOT DRIVEN show works which is a problem because they don’t believe in character driven at all IMO. So, Ivy’s return is a new plot just so thirsty Liam who hasn’t had any..gets his turn of a wild ride, so he can scratch his itch. LOL.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

225 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

Honestly maybe some want that and some do but I just want him to have a romance out of the triangle for a while, its a change with him and the show. Hope can pine after her obsession and Steffy can whine about Sheila to her husband. it honestly doesn't matter if they get jealous, if they do obviously they have double standards but I don't think that's shocking.

232 views report

I agree for most of your post except the last part. Differently from Steffy that made vows to Finn, Hope didn't fully committed to Thomas, so it's not the same.

224 views report

If they were ever serious about not wanting a man with a divided heart, they shouldn't care. It's the main thing they have always held against Liam, he still had feelings for the other woman. They blamed him over and over because he was torn but I find this hypocritical. If they have any sort of negative reaction about Ivy and Liam, then they're no better than him because they also have a divided heart. I like Steffy a lot but her marriage will look like a bigger failure (than they already are) if she isn't relieved and wishing Livy all the best for the future. Any sign of resentment towards Ivy would prove without the shadow of a doubt that she still loves Liam and lied to Finn about it the entire time. Not that I'd complain because I love Steam and always thought she only settled for Finn because she had no choice as Liam was unavailable at the time. She didn't develop feelings for Finn when she was still with Liam, unlike Hope who fell for Thomas while married to Liam. Hope will also look like a complete joke if she doesn't like Ivy. She was drawn to another man because he only wants her and she threw that argument in Liam's face over and over to jusify her affair with Thomas. What's the point now if she won't show the same commitment in return? It will be the ultimate test for both women. Finn and Thomas are going to look like fools if they have a problem with Ivy.

Both are insane if jealous over that idiot

228 views report

they both will!!!

212 views report

they both will!!!

I think they took their Liam goggles off they wised up I doubt that are that crazy

199 views report

For Steffy it would be absurd and out of the blue, just another nonsense to prop liam, to try to make him look llike prize, that he's not.Because Steffy isn't and hasn't been in love with liam since years.

181 views report

For Steffy it would be absurd and out of the blue, just another nonsense to prop liam, to try to make him look llike prize, that he's not.Because Steffy isn't and hasn't been in love with liam since years.

And Liam passed up plenty of opportunities too be with Steffy until all of a sudden those feelings supposedly came back in soaps couples never really fall out of love with there old partners completely so the writers can always go back to them in the future that is how soaps work.

178 views report

For Steffy it would be absurd and out of the blue, just another nonsense to prop liam, to try to make him look llike prize, that he's not.Because Steffy isn't and hasn't been in love with liam since years.

And Liam passed up plenty of opportunities too be with Steffy until all of a sudden those feelings supposedly came back in soaps couples never really fall out of love with there old partners completely so the writers can always go back to them in the future that is how soaps work.

Yeah, but then there are the end game couples. If B&B were to come to an end, certain couples would be together, and Lope are one such couple.

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

182 views report

For Steffy it would be absurd and out of the blue, just another nonsense to prop liam, to try to make him look llike prize, that he's not.Because Steffy isn't and hasn't been in love with liam since years.

And Liam passed up plenty of opportunities too be with Steffy until all of a sudden those feelings supposedly came back in soaps couples never really fall out of love with there old partners completely so the writers can always go back to them in the future that is how soaps work.

Yeah, but then there are the end game couples. If B&B were to come to an end, certain couples would be together, and Lope are one such couple.

Yep. And since Lope were happily married for several years, the show had to break them up just like they always do with other married couples. Looks like it'll be a very long road to their eventual reunion with detours like Thope and now Livy. IMO, after wild rides Thope and Livy..then Hope and Liam will be kinda on an equal footing again..just so they can reunite. That's my guess lol.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

136 views report

For Steffy it would be absurd and out of the blue, just another nonsense to prop liam, to try to make him look llike prize, that he's not.Because Steffy isn't and hasn't been in love with liam since years.

And Liam passed up plenty of opportunities too be with Steffy until all of a sudden those feelings supposedly came back in soaps couples never really fall out of love with there old partners completely so the writers can always go back to them in the future that is how soaps work.

Yeah, but then there are the end game couples. If B&B were to come to an end, certain couples would be together, and Lope are one such couple.

Yep. And since Lope were happily married for several years, the show had to break them up just like they always do with other married couples. Looks like it'll be a very long road to their eventual reunion with detours like Thope and now Livy. IMO, after wild rides Thope and Livy..then Hope and Liam will be kinda on an equal footing again..just so they can reunite. That's my guess lol.

Agree. And I'm happy for them to get this break. Soap couples need couples' angst. It's what makes the eventual reunion so satisfying.

--
"I love you more than anything or anyone in the world. And I want you by my side for the rest of my life."

"You're the love of my life."

Liam to Hope. Debate over.

131 views report

For Steffy it would be absurd and out of the blue, just another nonsense to prop liam, to try to make him look llike prize, that he's not.Because Steffy isn't and hasn't been in love with liam since years.

And Liam passed up plenty of opportunities too be with Steffy until all of a sudden those feelings supposedly came back in soaps couples never really fall out of love with there old partners completely so the writers can always go back to them in the future that is how soaps work.

Yeah, but then there are the end game couples. If B&B were to come to an end, certain couples would be together, and Lope are one such couple.

Yep. And since Lope were happily married for several years, the show had to break them up just like they always do with other married couples. Looks like it'll be a very long road to their eventual reunion with detours like Thope and now Livy. IMO, after wild rides Thope and Livy..then Hope and Liam will be kinda on an equal footing again..just so they can reunite. That's my guess lol.

Agree. And I'm happy for them to get this break. Soap couples need couples' angst. It's what makes the eventual reunion so satisfying.

Exactly. And it'll be interesting to see how Livy will affect the ratings. The ratings were horrible this past year and it's looking like they're starting to get better with the show gaining back almost 200,000 viewers and the key demo no longer ties low. I'm guessing Bell will probably throw a single Hope into the mix while Livy is taking a wild ride lol..just so his ratings can keep up? Just a vibe I'm getting.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

145 views report

Disagree.

The only interest Steffy showed to Liam since she handed him over to Hope is as Kelly's father.That's why Liam, Thomas and Hope had to use Kellu, reuniting Kelly's family to get Steffy to show him any interest.That's why Steffy didn't remove the portrait when she fell in love with Finn but when she started the new family she wanted with her soulmnate, whole wprld(her words)..

-Liam can have sex with Steffy he's just using her

-Hope can have sex with Thomas just for fun or to boost her ego

-But Steffy can't have sex with Liam just because she's horny after 2 years without any(drugged ons), no,She wants him back.Never mind that she stated that it made her remember how much she missed that part of her life,(her sex life) no, she just wants Liam.And when he left with Hope and Phoebe/Beth, he "dumped" her, never mind that they weren't even a couple, didn't make any freaking move on him through the time he was there (,by the way only because Hope used kelly and phoebe to get Steffy to take him back in.)merely offering him the guest room and just coparenting with him.
Steffy didn;t make herself an option again.

-Thomas tells Stteffy that Douglas can;t lose another mother and Kelly would have her father full time to get her to go along with the stage kiss, only for her tor regret it immediatly and defend him to Hope taking full responsibility.And had liam rejected Steffy instead of kissing her back,that's what Hope would have seen, staged or not.So lope, instead of focusin on the fact that liam kissed Steffy back, they chose to hide behind the fact that it was staged.And she still doesn't know that he kissed Steffy again to show her what's in his heart.Steffy still didn't make herself an option.

And finally the drunk ons, liam using the portrait that represents the family Steffy once wanted for her kid using the mother to get the woman, with some help from alcohol.Stteffy defending Hope, pushing him to talk to Hope before and after the ons,, despite of him standing there telling her that he was done with Hope,that she could have Thomas.Steffy still not making herself an option.

And we're supposed tp believe that when Liam says I love you to Steffy and that he never stopped loving her, He's not in love with her.He says it to Hope, he is.
Steffy says to liam I'll always love you she's in love.
Double standard much in favor of liam

No, Steffy hasn't been in love with liam or wanted him back since years, long before Finn got into her life

So no,liam didn't have any opportunity to reunite with Steffy unless he was willing to be with a woman not in love with him but willing to settle to give her kid the united family she dreamed of for her at the time.His huge ego couldn't take it

180 views report

Disagree.

The only interest Steffy showed to Liam since she handed him over to Hope is as Kelly's father.That's why Liam, Thomas and Hope had to use Kellu, reuniting Kelly's family to get Steffy to show him any interest.That's why Steffy didn't remove the portrait when she fell in love with Finn but when she started the new family she wanted with her soulmnate, whole wprld(her words)..

-Liam can have sex with Steffy he's just using her

-Hope can have sex with Thomas just for fun or to boost her ego

-But Steffy can't have sex with Liam just because she's horny after 2 years without any(drugged ons), no,She wants him back.Never mind that she stated that it made her remember how much she missed that part of her life,(her sex life) no, she just wants Liam.And when he left with Hope and Phoebe/Beth, he "dumped" her, never mind that they weren't even a couple, didn't make any freaking move on him through the time he was there (,by the way only because Hope used kelly and phoebe to get Steffy to take him back in.)merely offering him the guest room and just coparenting with him.
Steffy didn;t make herself an option again.

-Thomas tells Stteffy that Douglas can;t lose another mother and Kelly would have her father full time to get her to go along with the stage kiss, only for her tor regret it immediatly and defend him to Hope taking full responsibility.And had liam rejected Steffy instead of kissing her back,that's what Hope would have seen, staged or not.So lope, instead of focusin on the fact that liam kissed Steffy back, they chose to hide behind the fact that it was staged.And she still doesn't know that he kissed Steffy again to show her what's in his heart.Steffy still didn't make herself an option.

And finally the drunk ons, liam using the portrait that represents the family Steffy once wanted for her kid using the mother to get the woman, with some help from alcohol.Stteffy defending Hope, pushing him to talk to Hope before and after the ons,, despite of him standing there telling her that he was done with Hope,that she could have Thomas.Steffy still not making herself an option.

And we're supposed tp believe that when Liam says I love you to Steffy and that he never stopped loving her, He's not in love with her.He says it to Hope, he is.
Steffy says to liam I'll always love you she's in love.
Double standard much in favor of liam

No, Steffy hasn't been in love with liam or wanted him back since years, long before Finn got into her life

So no,liam didn't have any opportunity to reunite with Steffy unless he was willing to be with a woman not in love with him but willing to settle to give her kid the united family she dreamed of for her at the time.His huge ego couldn't take it

Make no sense to me that Kelly would be the only reason for Steffy to potentially reunite with Liam when her portrait didn't even have Kelly in it. Steffy herself admitted to Liam that she looked at that Leffy poster every night even with boyfried Finn spending the nights at her house having sex with him..so did Kelly instruct her mommy to look at it every night? LOL.

And I saw Liam had at least 2 opportunties to reunite with Steffy but he showed no interest..shown on screen that he actually lived at the cliff house twice, yet he simply stayed at her guest bedroom acted like a platonic roommate.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

137 views report

That porttait was put there while Steffy was pregnant and she put it thee to show kelly that her parents loved each other once.So yes it was about kelly and the united family she wanted for her.Yes Steffy looked at that portrait because at the time kelly was her only child and that portrait represented the united family she wanted once for her child.And that dream in a drunken moment was stronger then her new love for Finn.When she woke up sober and saw liam on her coich, instead of lokking hopeful for or even happy that the dream night become true, she actually felt,looked and sounded disgusted.

Liam had no opportunity to reunite with Steffy.You said he stayed in the guest room?That';s because Steffy left him there, made zero move on him all the time he was there.He told Bill that he wasn't completly back yet because he was still in the guest room.What opportunity did he have?

117 views report

That porttait was put there while Steffy was pregnant and she put it thee to show kelly that her parents loved each other once.So yes it was about kelly and the united family she wanted for her.Yes Steffy looked at that portrait because at the time kelly was her only child and that portrait represented the united family she wanted once for her child.And that dream in a drunken moment was stronger then her new love for Finn.When she woke up sober and saw liam on her coich, instead of lokking hopeful for or even happy that the dream night become true, she actually felt,looked and sounded disgusted.

Liam had no opportunity to reunite with Steffy.You said he stayed in the guest room?That';s because Steffy left him there, made zero move on him all the time he was there.He told Bill that he wasn't completly back yet because he was still in the guest room.What opportunity did he have?

Yet, Steffy was quick to make the move on Liam staging the Leffy kiss..Liam had plenty of opportunities including living in her house twice. Lmao. And that portrait was for Steffy only…Kelly was way too young to understand what was going on back then.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

127 views report

Actually it took Thomas harrassing Steffy for her to give in.In fact he had told her before, in another occasion, that she should fight for her family with Liam and she told him no thanks I love my life the way it is.

Yes he was lving there it doesn't make Steffy an option.She merely offered him the guest room.Steffy didn't make herself an option again, never showed any interest in him as a romantic partner ever since she dumped him.

As far as the portrait is concerned, it was about any romantic feelings for Liam , she would have removed it when she fell in love with Finn and committed herself to him.But she didn't because it had nothing to do with Liam and everything to do with the dream family she once wanted for Kelly

106 views report

Actually it took Thomas harrassing Steffy for her to give in.In fact he had told her before, in another occasion, that she should fight for her family with Liam and she told him no thanks I love my life the way it is.

Yes he was lving there it doesn't make Steffy an option.She merely offered him the guest room.Steffy didn't make herself an option again, never showed any interest in him as a romantic partner ever since she dumped him.

As far as the portrait is concerned, it was about any romantic feelings for Liam , she would have removed it when she fell in love with Finn and committed herself to him.But she didn't because it had nothing to do with Liam and everything to do with the dream family she once wanted for Kelly

So she was in love with Finn but still dreaming of a family with another man? That really doesn't show Steffy in a good light. Basically it means if Liam had crooked his little finger she would have dumped Finn and gone back to him (which actually she almost did) because supposedly her family with Liam was more important than her love for Finn. And even if that were true, what kind of example is that showing her daughter? That you stay with a man you don't even love, simply because you have a family with him, even though you actually love someone else? What a terrible message.

116 views report

Indeed in a drunken moment the family she once wanted for kelly was stronger than her new love for Finn.Steffy wasn't committed yet.Steffy had only one kid at the time so giving kelly a united family was her weakness, and everyoine knew it.Steffy woke up sober and even that dream wasn't appealing to her aymore, didn't keep her from feeling, looking and sounding disgusted.She was had chosen Finn already and that was before Liam woke up and opened his lying mouths.

Funny how when Liam marry Steffy it's because she is pregnant up to some,.But Steffy giving into the dream to give kelly a united family in a drunken moment is because she's in love with him and a bad example.You do know thar Steffy told Liam at the ambushed wedding that he could still marry Hope and just coparent with her, right?

111 views report

Indeed in a drunken moment the family she once wanted for kelly was stronger than her new love for Finn.Steffy wasn't committed yet.Steffy had only one kid at the time so giving kelly a united family was her weakness, and everyoine knew it.Steffy woke up sober and even that dream wasn't appealing to her aymore, didn't keep her from feeling, looking and sounding disgusted.She was had chosen Finn already and that was before Liam woke up and opened his lying mouths.

Funny how when Liam marry Steffy it's because she is pregnant up to some,.But Steffy giving into the dream to give kelly a united family in a drunken moment is because she's in love with him and a bad example.You do know thar Steffy told Liam at the ambushed wedding that he could still marry Hope and just coparent with her, right?

Yes. And she also made a special effort to stop that wedding. If she really meant it she would have just watched to see what Liam would actually do rather than rushing to stop it. And if Liam had gone ahead and married Hope (as he told Bill he would have) then she would have known he doesn't really love her and she could have just told him later and co-parented with him. Actions speak louder than words and Steffys actions have always contradicted her words. Yes Liam married Steffy because she was pregnant. Those are his own words, not speculation. He told Bill he would have married Hope that day if Steffy hadn't showed up and told him she was pregnant. And Steffy was already sleeping with Finn at the time of the ONS, wasn't she? Hence the paternity test. That shows some level of commitment.

106 views report

Indeed in a drunken moment the family she once wanted for kelly was stronger than her new love for Finn.Steffy wasn't committed yet.Steffy had only one kid at the time so giving kelly a united family was her weakness, and everyoine knew it.Steffy woke up sober and even that dream wasn't appealing to her aymore, didn't keep her from feeling, looking and sounding disgusted.She was had chosen Finn already and that was before Liam woke up and opened his lying mouths.

Funny how when Liam marry Steffy it's because she is pregnant up to some,.But Steffy giving into the dream to give kelly a united family in a drunken moment is because she's in love with him and a bad example.You do know thar Steffy told Liam at the ambushed wedding that he could still marry Hope and just coparent with her, right?

Yes. And she also made a special effort to stop that wedding. If she really meant it she would have just watched to see what Liam would actually do rather than rushing to stop it. And if Liam had gone ahead and married Hope (as he told Bill he would have) then she would have known he doesn't really love her and she could have just told him later and co-parented with him. Actions speak louder than words and Steffys actions have always contradicted her words. Yes Liam married Steffy because she was pregnant. Those are his own words, not speculation. He told Bill he would have married Hope that day if Steffy hadn't showed up and told him she was pregnant. And Steffy was already sleeping with Finn at the time of the ONS, wasn't she? Hence the paternity test. That shows some level of commitment.

Brooke planned a surprise your marrying Hope wedding boy she was nuts

86 views report

Actually it took Thomas harrassing Steffy for her to give in.In fact he had told her before, in another occasion, that she should fight for her family with Liam and she told him no thanks I love my life the way it is.

Yes he was lving there it doesn't make Steffy an option.She merely offered him the guest room.Steffy didn't make herself an option again, never showed any interest in him as a romantic partner ever since she dumped him.

As far as the portrait is concerned, it was about any romantic feelings for Liam , she would have removed it when she fell in love with Finn and committed herself to him.But she didn't because it had nothing to do with Liam and everything to do with the dream family she once wanted for Kelly

Disagree..each time she has sex with him or staging that kiss or allowed him to stay at her house..she made herself an option to Liam.

--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

88 views report

Liam ain’t even interesting he’s had same role ten years

52 views report

Liam ain’t even interesting he’s had same role ten years

He looks really handsome

58 views report

RSS Feed of thread

The World of the Bold and the Beautiful is the largest and longest running B&B fan forum in the world!