Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope (General)
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 4:08PM (10 days ago)- one person liked this
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
hopeyougogirl, 4/25/2024, 4:16PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl- 2 people liked this
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
How can Hope make Thomas interesting when the show just wrote him as "changed" boring saint? And I never found Thomas made Hope interesting either because hooking up with him was a major down grade for her character IMO.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 5:26PM (10 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
How can Hope make Thomas interesting when the show just wrote him as "changed" boring saint? And I never found Thomas made Hope interesting either because hooking up with him was a major down grade for her character IMO.
Well you just made my point.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
hopeyougogirl, 4/25/2024, 6:28PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
How can Hope make Thomas interesting when the show just wrote him as "changed" boring saint? And I never found Thomas made Hope interesting either because hooking up with him was a major down grade for her character IMO.
Well you just made my point.
But Thomas didn't make Hope more interesting though..NOT to me.
--
Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 6:39PM (10 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
How can Hope make Thomas interesting when the show just wrote him as "changed" boring saint? And I never found Thomas made Hope interesting either because hooking up with him was a major down grade for her character IMO.
Well you just made my point.
But Thomas didn't make Hope more interesting though..NOT to me.
I understand what you’re saying. My observation is that the show did nothing to make Thomas more interesting. He looked like he was on medication that made him flat. They seem to go overboard allowing Hope to express excitement. It seem onesided.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
hopeyougogirl, 4/25/2024, 6:49PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
How can Hope make Thomas interesting when the show just wrote him as "changed" boring saint? And I never found Thomas made Hope interesting either because hooking up with him was a major down grade for her character IMO.
Well you just made my point.
But Thomas didn't make Hope more interesting though..NOT to me.
I understand what you’re saying. My observation is that the show did nothing to make Thomas more interesting. He looked like he was on medication that made him flat. They seem to go overboard allowing Hope to express excitement. It seem onesided.
IMO, Thomas is only interesting to watch as a villain because MA is great at playing a villain....so, making Thomas into a boring saint supposely all "changed" never worked in my view.
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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 6:53PM (10 days ago) @hopeyougogirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
How can Hope make Thomas interesting when the show just wrote him as "changed" boring saint? And I never found Thomas made Hope interesting either because hooking up with him was a major down grade for her character IMO.
Well you just made my point.
But Thomas didn't make Hope more interesting though..NOT to me.
I understand what you’re saying. My observation is that the show did nothing to make Thomas more interesting. He looked like he was on medication that made him flat. They seem to go overboard allowing Hope to express excitement. It seem onesided.
IMO, Thomas is only interesting to watch as a villain because MA is great at playing a villain....so, making Thomas into a boring saint supposely all "changed" never worked in my view.
I get it. I can’t respect that.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/26/2024, 9:46AM (9 days ago) @GracieGirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
How can Hope make Thomas interesting when the show just wrote him as "changed" boring saint? And I never found Thomas made Hope interesting either because hooking up with him was a major down grade for her character IMO.
Well you just made my point.
But Thomas didn't make Hope more interesting though..NOT to me.
I understand what you’re saying. My observation is that the show did nothing to make Thomas more interesting. He looked like he was on medication that made him flat. They seem to go overboard allowing Hope to express excitement. It seem onesided.
IMO, Thomas is only interesting to watch as a villain because MA is great at playing a villain....so, making Thomas into a boring saint supposely all "changed" never worked in my view.
I get it. I can’t respect that.
I meant to write I DO respect that that. I hate auto correction!
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
Barbybo, 4/25/2024, 4:40PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
Tom and Hope sizzeled doubt they are done
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
Lizzy54 , Austria, 4/25/2024, 5:09PM (10 days ago) @Barbybo
They sure did!
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
Sammy , 4/25/2024, 5:11PM (10 days ago) @Barbybo
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
Tom and Hope sizzeled doubt they are done
Shouldn’t be
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 5:56PM (10 days ago) @Barbybo
We all have a right to see what we see. My opinion is that once I got over my frustration that the show would put Hope and Tom together, I saw things in a different way. I look back on it today and realize that for me the couple didn’t sizzle it was Hope expressing that she was sizzling but as a couple for me, I realized that the sizzling appeared one sided.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
Barbybo, 4/25/2024, 7:00PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl
We all have a right to see what we see. My opinion is that once I got over my frustration that the show would put Hope and Tom together, I saw things in a different way. I look back on it today and realize that for me the couple didn’t sizzle it was Hope expressing that she was sizzling but as a couple for me, I realized that the sizzling appeared one sided.
Hope wanted the sex she was the aggressor….she couldn’t control herself….they certainly changed her persona
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
B&Bfan1980, 4/25/2024, 4:40PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
100% I found this version of Thomas to be dull.
That is the challenge with a relationship that is dependent on one member of the relationship being perfect. I like it when both people are on the same footing.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 5:58PM (10 days ago) @B&Bfan1980
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
100% I found this version of Thomas to be dull.
That is the challenge with a relationship that is dependent on one member of the relationship being perfect. I like it when both people are on the same footing.
Well you and I appear to be on the same page. I was so busy being an upset viewer it did not dawn on me that I saw the whole thing as one sided from Hope’s fantasies to the present.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GLFan, 4/25/2024, 4:44PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
I agree with you. I was actually willing to give Thope a chance and found them interesting for a few weeks but Thomas’s character was neutered. Redeemed is good but I don’t want to see him as someone’s puppy dog when he (hopefully) returns.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
BBDownunder, 4/25/2024, 7:00PM (10 days ago) @GLFan
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
I agree with you. I was actually willing to give Thope a chance and found them interesting for a few weeks but Thomas’s character was neutered. Redeemed is good but I don’t want to see him as someone’s puppy dog when he (hopefully) returns.
i hope he returns and decides marriage isnt the be all and end all
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
PatriotGirl , 4/25/2024, 7:12PM (10 days ago) @BBDownunder
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
I agree with you. I was actually willing to give Thope a chance and found them interesting for a few weeks but Thomas’s character was neutered. Redeemed is good but I don’t want to see him as someone’s puppy dog when he (hopefully) returns.
i hope he returns and decides marriage isnt the be all and end all
Me too. He can do better than Hope.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GLFan, 4/25/2024, 8:02PM (10 days ago) @PatriotGirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
I agree with you. I was actually willing to give Thope a chance and found them interesting for a few weeks but Thomas’s character was neutered. Redeemed is good but I don’t want to see him as someone’s puppy dog when he (hopefully) returns.
i hope he returns and decides marriage isnt the be all and end all
Me too. He can do better than Hope.
Exactly. I hope he leaves his Hope goggles in Europe.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 11:07PM (9 days ago) @PatriotGirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
I agree with you. I was actually willing to give Thope a chance and found them interesting for a few weeks but Thomas’s character was neutered. Redeemed is good but I don’t want to see him as someone’s puppy dog when he (hopefully) returns.
i hope he returns and decides marriage isnt the be all and end all
Me too. He can do better than Hope.
To me they are presenting Hope as the drag on relationship. Hope is looking for perfection.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
lynnsmom, 4/25/2024, 4:46PM (10 days ago) @GracieGirl
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
Thomas really only works as the psychopath. He is boooooring with all his "I love Hope and I know she loves me and will be with me" bluster.
Now that I’m over my shock and disgust with Thope
GracieGirl, 4/25/2024, 6:01PM (10 days ago) @lynnsmom
I’m can truly say that I don’t believe that Hope did anything to make Thomas more interesting. He made her more interesting because he helped her to stick it to Liam and of course she would never say that’s true. However Hope did not make Thomas more interesting to me. I saw the fire in Hope but not in Thomas. I found his personality to be flatter than ever this year. JMHO
Thomas really only works as the psychopath. He is boooooring with all his "I love Hope and I know she loves me and will be with me" bluster.
I am not so sure. Matthew is a handsome actor and he’s a good actor. I think the show could’ve done better by with his scripts. Actually, I don’t understand this one-sided couple writing. I’m not sure what they’re trying to accomplish if the only way to prove that one character loves another character is that they have to come across as if they worship their partner and don’t have a mind of their own. That’s my interpretation of what I see on the screen. I don’t think loyal devoted partners have to come across as if they’re empty. Thomas didn’t wake up to me until he decided to leave Hope. JMHO
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